Dry To Pro Vocals (8 Step Chain)

[@churchulukuta7386]

Cool trick. But I think it would have been more helpful to hear it against the music. So we get a clear picture of how it would actually sit in a mix.

[@mindslikemine.8789]

there should be an instrumental for this vocal mixing video. how does it sound in the rest of the mix?

[@emsbuff]

I agree 100%. That’s a huge element that’s missing. Vocals can sound amazing until you start mixing them into the music.

[@JeighNeither]

That's not what the video is about though? He's got other video for sinking the vocal and gluing to the mix, you just need to search his page. I just discovered this guy 3 hrs ago & already figured that out, so I'm not sure what's holding you back. He can't do everything in one video, it would be too long, & it helps his channel to split subjects up.

[@mindslikemine.8789]

@@JeighNeither 😂😂

[@GaryBradleymusic]

Great stuff! For me, the chorus is too strong but it depends on the context. Many thanks 😊

[@utubewillyman]

I agree. The chorusing had that phase-cancellation sound that I find distracting. But this gentleman clearly knows what he's doing more than I do.

[@rebinu]

@@utubewillymanno he doesn’t

[@utubewillyman]

@@rebinu Does too! Now you're supposed to say "does not!" And we see how long it goes.

[@iggswanna1248]

@@utubewillyman definetely doesnt but againm he does.

[@simplygibbons800]

I thought the same until the end then realized it might sound solid in a house track. Which makes sense given streaky does a lot of EDM tutorials

[@AdMBandLeader]

All's good but I prefer vocals, especially solo voices without any chorus effect. To me doing chorus makes vocals sound kind of boxed up and unnatural. I'd rather go in for controlled amounts of two delays and reverbs each through the aux or send busses. The first delay being slappy and pretty short happening in a narrow stereo range and the second in a wider stereo range, set as an alternated L+R tapper. Same with the reverbs, first one set as a short and small spaces room and the second as a big plate or hall or whatever big space preferred according to the genre, song etc.

[@user-sd7eb6jq9y]

I prefer having the chorus / reverb / delay as parallel send-return tracks and not inserts for many many reasons. But nice chain sound whatsoever.

[@hertzcules]

Just wanna say for anyone who hates sidechaining or have a corrupt daw like me that no longer allows for the sidechain function for some reason...many plugins have an auto ducking feature so it acts like a sidechain compressor onto whatever material is going through it and there's a mix knob so you can dial it just right, it makes life much easier. There's a thread on KVR which plugins have the feature, many are free, Cubase stock delay (cubase owners only), Kilohearts (free bundle plus many more great plugins), VoS NastyDLA mkII etc. Nice job as always Streaky, it's very easy to forget some of these processes while mixing and your tips are always really helpful. 👍

[@ambrocado]

Terrific!!! thanks a lot Streaky

[@Projacked1]

I have the same comment as the one below. That being said, I got the full picture when the compressor was added.-> Use the compressor after the slightly high wet effect. It levels the centre of the (mono) dry signal back into the stereo field. Clever yet very logical approach if you let it sink in.

[@tadpringle3148]

So this is an acapella piece?

[@kevinturvey8213]

mate - it sounded so much better without any effects!!!

[@mauricelevasseur9987]

Sounds as Brooke Combe! Love this vocal, even before processings. Thanks for the tutorial.

[@ZIZZOWORLDMUSIC]

I think there will be a lot of phases out, but is a creative thing

[@willievaughn6474]

You're such a blessing, thank you

[@km3musiclab]

Streaky thanks so much for this kind of tutorial. We love it when the SEASONED PROs" share their knowledge and techniques. Keep'em coming.

[@Ravizzoni]

Hi Streaky! One of the great things about how you mixed these vocals is how you can turn up the volume a lot without hurting your ears. Making the vocals always enjoyable. BUT it would be great to hear setups for specific genres, like a Jeff Buckley singer songwriter big hall preset that comes somehow some milliseconds after a dry signal (that is intimate, in your face, but dreamy). There could be a rock example with distortion coloring too. Personally though the Jeff Buckley sound is something I think many singer songwriters, like me, would love to learn for their demos and simple approach. I’m always following your videos and saving the links to the phone notepad. Stay awesome! I’m excited at every video.

[@VCVRackIdeas]

that's odd, so obvious chorus effect (no needed in 90% case) but 1.9% of room which is basically will be invisible in whole mix :-)

[@Emmastunned]

exactly what I have been looking for .. thanks Streaky for the spicy stuff

[@virginlamo8202]

Thank you for using as many stock plugins as you could

[@MonkeyBars1]

what a trip to see Streaky in profile, first time ever!

[@gabrielthesingingpilot]

Loved the plug for your plugin ha ha! Good tips. I agree with others that it started to sound worse with the phasing (delay,octave difference L/R pan). Perhaps a little too strong for just the vocal. In the mix perhaps it works perfectly. Thanks for helping us get better mixes! Cherio

[@therealtblstudio]

Without hearing it in the music it’s intended for I don’t know how it would sound, but cool.

[@lovebirdsmusic]

i think its quite obvious that the d setting in logic chorus turns of the mix knob and therefore should be used as a send here because we now listen to a 100% chorus on the vocal. stunned that this was not discovered by the creator.

[@GTORT]

This one video has taught me so much about logic hahahah had no clue some of these effects were native. CPU save town here we come!

[@CircusNormal]

You could swap the phaser for an Eventide Harmonizer H9000

[@sishdz838]

Great video sir you're mixing vocals with out any context teaching us how to add basic eq compression and fx

[@norand022]

Well done. That was another good one 👏🏻👍🏻👋🏻

[@MrSkunky2009]

Always such depth & clarity...Brilliant !!!

[@nashse7en]

Bro Idk if you have a video about "bouncing a mixed track" BUT. could you make one? Bounce a finished mixed song with all the plugins to save CPU power in order to allow us to proceed with the mastering plugins without blowing the Cpu.

[@bwwolf]

Interesting point, but what surprises me is that apart from a compressor in the signal chain at the end, you don't use any at the beginning or have you already recorded so perfectly that the voice no longer needs compression? In my opinion, the corus is too strong and I would never use it like that. This alienates the voice extremely and is too modern for me. That means it sounds like all the modern sounds of voices that you hear today and that unfortunately all sound the same. Still very exciting

[@bernieheveron1929]

I've paid for channel strip settings in Logic! This is much better - thanks for offering it for free.

[@officialWWM]

Yep, sounds huge. Would probably sound ridiculous on a rock song but would sound great on a pop song.

[@itsgvel]

I would add Desser to delete that unnecessary high end generated by the "Ss" but this chain it's amazing!

[@stuartdarling1620]

This is cool i just used some (but not all) of these plugins on a vocal (with less extreme settings) and in particular the combination of the dimension D style chorus and Echo was a nice sympathetic combination in conjunction with EQ, Reverb and Compression

[@antoineschillemans]

STEAKSTER IS THE BOMB..GREETZ FROM AMSTERDAM!

[@tommyface5756]

love the fact you use Logic... As most i see use this and beats them all

[@hawsrulebegin7768]

I’m agreeing with many comments here. I prefer the dry vocals, or maybe just turn down the effects 60%. But good workflow that I’ll try out. Thanks.

[@musole7104]

wow this is insane! I am glad i have come across this channel, this is really valuable.

[@adrianudrea3780]

Great video ! You'd be amazed how simple could have been using the new Fabfilter R2 . Thx for the tutorial !

[@Aejixmusic]

Some really good stuff here, thank you!

[@tomn4483]

goat

[@kemsito]

@Streaky you are the GOAT

[@2ql]

Thanks Streaky for new ideas on how to further shape vocals.☺ You are like a masterchef who uses a lot of spices when cooking soup, but knows exactly which ones to add to spice it up. 👌Greetings from Slovenia from Robert.🤗

[@johnhuldt]

Great video. Thank you so much for all the amazing information!

[@YoungShizzie]

This is what I need

[@justinbeck4197]

Really cool Can't wait to try it. So a request. I just got signed to a label that does organic house/world music kinds of things. So I need to get some tips on working with "exotic" or unusual acoustic instruments.. mostly samples into a mix. Keep the "flavor and grit" of the instrument but get the whole thing sharp.

[@JSoulKeys]

Great tutorial Streaky. Thank you for this, but a little feedback here - it would have been more applicable if you had music in the session so we could hear what it sounds like in the mix.. maybe an updated video in the next one? Cheers pal Jamaal

[@CoucheMusic]

To be honest I much prefer the dry vocals. IMO way too much FX and stereo processing for a lead vocal. Makes it sound watery and lose texture. You could also mention that you're starting out with already processed vocals and not raw. I like your other vids tho.

[@darth_bastard]

Nope

[@potatochipappi]

This processing is Obviously for Chorus parts of the mix..... we're you expecting a Rap style mix? I can understand you, however Not every vocals are mixed the same way. I find it very Good if you do this style of mix for melodic chorus, and use Dry vocals for verses.

[@satgururubanloganathan5632]

I agree with you but I think this type of vocal mixing is more to EDM style.

[@CoucheMusic]

@@potatochipappi For choruses you would normally add doubles and harmonies and pan them for more width. It all depends on taste of course, and there is no "right or wrong". I'm comparing to the conventional professional standard on chart music.

[@ThisisStephennn]

Amateur

[@matthewhartleymusic]

Streaky, this is probably a newbie question, but why did you create 3 separate buses for the vocal track between the reverb, delay, and doubler? I assume it's to control the mix send for each separate effect chain. Just trying to understand the method of having the initial effect chain on the vocal track...then the additional effect chains on the 3 buses.

[@muhammadsarmadhussain3400]

Do you recommend using stereo bus for delay and reverbs instead of mono all the time ?

[@heyselcuk]

3:15 i have professional studio headphones on and i hear no difference in valhalla. before and after 100% the same

[@darth_bastard]

AMAZING!

[@BrewerShettles]

> - sounds really harsh - Ever hear of the Lennon FX? Copy / shift the vocal track 35ms - pan and adjust volume to taste. Further, sending vocals to busses of Sound Toys - 1 bus echo the other bus hard plugins - and mixing in parallel will keep the singer sounding alive with presence and impact.

[@PeteMel1875]

Great info thanks 👍

[@rickblackers88]

Creativelly great!!

[@SonicDephect]

Did my best to emulate this in abelton but would love a version with stock Live plugs 🙏🏼

[@YoungShizzie]

I really like what you did & you showed how to use them to so helpful but the last plugin seemed like it didn’t do much the doubler but I’m looking in to buying plugins for my voice for hip hop cuz I’m tired of the logic plugins 😂 but this showed me more about plugins you can buy and how to mix better maybe you can do a video on plugins

[@Big_Nigs64]

Step 1 everyone forgets to mention is you have to have good vocals to begin with. The singer has to have a great voice and you have to have a good mic.

[@andriealinsangao613]

Oh yeah, and another step, if you've got AutoTune, DELETE IT!

[@KyeCreates]

​@@andriealinsangao613 if you're picky about artistic direction why mix for others?

[@andriealinsangao613]

@@KyeCreates I don't really mix songs (and even if I did, it would probably be just for my music), but Autotune just rubs me off the wrong way!

[@mikegmusic]

🔥 thanks for all you do!

[@tl1467]

Why do you use pro-Q 3 as the de-esser instead of a more specific tool like pro-DS or other speciallized de-essers?

[@egiptedowner5107]

does Ableton have any of these plugins?

[@joev4483]

Thank You!!

[@kwameassefuah1529]

Great stuff 🎉

[@marcodimartino2810]

Aspettiamo il 5 Gennaio. Io immagino che a questo punto i due se le diano a Wrestle Kingdom. Il 5 Gennaio c’è Dash, l’evento che cambia tutto in New Japan. Qui, o cambia la percezione che abbiamo della HoT, o cambia e molto in peggio, il buon Ren.

[@TonyJBrennan]

Always great stuff Streaky - Can I ask if you could do a bit on Room house curves for mixing and mastering ?

[@nashse7en]

Streaky for president. Yoo keep helping with more Vocal tips.

[@Mikegeb4545]

I would say 90% of the quality comes from the vocalist and the quality of the recording. Effects are only the cherry on top. This should be a disclaimer in such videos 😂

[@jalalfaruque9527]

Superb

[@hissohrecords9538]

Where is the link

[@honorrollTM]

those vocals sound amazing, do you record in a booth??

[@skyboxstudios777]

Kinda crazy doing this outside the context of the mix

[@Idonttakethisseriously]

with this type of processing you don’t need an u87 nor a telefunken nor a sony c800

[@simonbachinger6998]

The chorus sounds terrible with these vocals. It also brings the voice further back. 😅

[@rickythethird]

hye streaky! ive been hearing this about gold clip. trial it and make a video. i woould love your thoughts on. this much love

[@TheDigitalDynasty610]

i have a couple questions here. 1. i always see your vocals u mix in stereo format, i thought you always wanted to mix your vocals in mono? 2. isn't a reverb meant to be on a send, not directly on the track?

[@AHeienMusic]

The main purpose of bussing the reverb is so that you can feed in multiple sources and have an even reverb effect. If you had some background vocals or wanted the exact same reverb for multiple instruments you would send it to a bus. He might have avoided that in this video for the sake of adding extra info. There’s nothing necessarily wrong with keeping a reverb on a vocal track though, you just have to be careful with the wet/dry since it is all on that one channel.

[@mahdiendline]

Chorus package plugin name?

[@4am446]

How do people make dry vocals sound cool?

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

They aren't dry, they have invisible ambience. Short rooms mixed in low, short delays that are sent to short reverbs. Really quiet choruses or flanges that add depth.

[@tearshirt6831]

Love you streaky.. just like my vocal chain.. but why are your vocal Audio two track like stereo , I thought it should be mono😢

[@B2svn465]

Mate was there already compression on the tracking of the vocals?

[@Kkidzz]

Colourbox were a great early eighties 4AD band..... search out their track Tarantula. Classic.

[@tonycowin]

Somebody else who remembers Colourbox. I still have my The Official Colourbox World Cup Theme 12-inch somewhere.

[@Kkidzz]

@@tonycowin STill have their entire vinyl output.

[@pcLumsy1]

👍👏

[@matthewhampson3312]

I have a PC with Studio One 6 Professional. I only see ‘Audio Device’ and no Playback Device. My Bluetooth earbuds are definitely connected to my computer…..what gives?!

[@BabadookJesus]

Needs more compression I reckon

[@Rookslife]

How much of the dry signal were you actually sending to those plugins though?

[@InaktiverUser]

what is optimal Db level for recording vocals, i know after mixing it should be 10 to -6 to leave headromm for mastering but what is püerfect input level? maybe -18db ?

[@boro.purvi.sled.pikoto]

how do you mix a vocal without a beat? :DDD

[@hcmusicstudios]

Mixing vocals without music and beat makes no sense, these type of videos misguide a lot of freshers as they always try to copy chain. It would be better if you have shown this with complete tracks. BTW it is a good way to promote your plugin 😊

[@crisrose521]

Chorus on vocals sucks , in my humble opinion . . But very helpful video’s , thanks 🙏

[@NealJohnson]

🤫

[@alexveg3]

It doesn't make sense for me to apply all this process in solo without a context in the mix.

[@activemusickid]

Praying for you Streaky… Jesus will bring you through any struggle you may be facing right now 🙏❤️. Great video by the way, thank you for sharing!

[@PaulSpaccavento]

Tasty!

[@prod.faustler7304]

Ok cool but wheres the kankan or lucki or childish Gambino type vocal chains I need professional takes on this

[@joramponi249]

YOU really don't know how to keep a secret...

[@Tony-yp7ok]

Sounds way too sibilant and flangey to me

[@marcinkozlowski2880]

👍👍👍

[@jwester7009]

Everything was great and it improved the vocal except I would really leave out step two. That one removed the soul and natural sound of the voice. For me that would only work if the if was going for some dance disco sound. I think the lesson is to not do so much processing that you loose the human emotion in vocals and instruments. I think that is the typical problem with many mixes today

[@jahhe2611]

Why does her SSSS sounds so bad and weird is what im thinking...

[@sethmonroe9603]

The chorus is a little annoying but I like everything else!

[@EricBalcon]

Very nice advise but I don't like the chorus at all.

[@couchlockstudios]

First 🎉