I Reveal How The Pro’s Mix Vocals

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@TheDilligan
@TheDilligan Жыл бұрын
It's wild how I actually hear the instrumental better when the EQ is actively cutting those frequencies. Even on my laptop speakers. It's a massive difference.
@Zenvo-uu9tm
@Zenvo-uu9tm Жыл бұрын
Power of un-masking frequencies in relation to each other , instant clarity improvement ... Gullfos works on the same principles
@Kabir001
@Kabir001 Жыл бұрын
You have helped me so much bruv!!!
@Exit_Sign
@Exit_Sign Жыл бұрын
I do not believe you. I'd be willing to bet that if you did a blind test, you'd fail. Try hearing for a difference without being influenced by the EQ jiggling.
@mr.player7104
@mr.player7104 Жыл бұрын
yeah brother, even on my phone speakers
@Exit_Sign
@Exit_Sign Жыл бұрын
@@mr.player7104 you know what, I’ll make a video doing this exact process and have it be a blind test for the viewer. I will get back to you.
@noski4384
@noski4384 5 ай бұрын
This is what you call sharing free game brotha.. ty for taking the time to share this with us!
@johnreynolds1912
@johnreynolds1912 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been mixing a track from a live band recording from a gig, and although I have really clean stems with minimal bleed, I was losing something of the ‘live’ feel with the vocal not sitting right. I was making some headway with ducking some of the melodic instruments, but doing this with FF fixed it straight away, and I mean instantly. Very grateful mate, too TOP tip
@bugmanuk
@bugmanuk Жыл бұрын
This has just transformed my mix. Unbelievable.
@ConvergenceBand
@ConvergenceBand Жыл бұрын
Huge thank you! you have no idea how long I've been struggling to get the vocals to pop in just the right way and this made a big difference
@artv4nd3l4y
@artv4nd3l4y 9 ай бұрын
I have been producing for a long time, not a professional by any means though. This makes a huge difference I have to try this. I use a lot of multiband plugins and it gets a similar effect, but this really seems worth using the Fabfilter Q Pro. Most multibands just have a couple points and this really made a huge difference.
@drexbeats
@drexbeats 6 ай бұрын
yo, the way the vocal was mixed is insane, glad I could learn a thing or two, thank you.
@Tidemann444
@Tidemann444 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I am really grateful for the info shared here. I have always had trouble getting my vocal to sit correctly. Combined with the sidechain compression of reverb/delay on your newest video it really is a massive upgrade with few tweaks. That's the power of a "secret". It's not difficult, It's not overly time consuming. It works! Thanks a lot, Streaky!
@chriswaltonmusic
@chriswaltonmusic Жыл бұрын
This is otherworldly genius-like knowledge that has just been a total revelation to me! Thanks Fella 👍🏻
@nashse7en
@nashse7en Жыл бұрын
and i was just using the sidechain from FLstudio, click "sidechain to this track" thinking i'm a genius.
@prodxvr
@prodxvr Жыл бұрын
i was doing something similar manually by using broader qs where colliding frequencies exist but this effect is so much cleaner. great tutorial
@betowarrior_
@betowarrior_ Жыл бұрын
Bought your mixing course, its very concise and easy to follow, kudos!
@stephenpeacock7990
@stephenpeacock7990 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Streaky! Much appreciated. ❤
@km3musiclab
@km3musiclab 8 ай бұрын
I love when you do these tutorial, so much knowledge in there. Thank you so much for sharing you skill and experience. This is worth so much to me.
@ch-vs3fw
@ch-vs3fw 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! This will make a difference in my work life. I've had Fabfilter 3 for a long time, and had no idea it was this powerful!
@mystikrebel1089
@mystikrebel1089 Жыл бұрын
Streaky thanks for this as im about to lay down my vocals on some projects soon so this will be very helpful mate !
@yojz
@yojz 6 ай бұрын
Amazing, thank you! Loving your mixing your course!
@jotamarsmusic
@jotamarsmusic Жыл бұрын
This is pretty good! Hope to see more videos like this on your channel!
@BodyOfPlayMusic
@BodyOfPlayMusic Жыл бұрын
Streaky, this whole video is what we need, on point, love your dial in! ❤️
@Burglecutter
@Burglecutter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for everything Streaky!
@freelabmedia
@freelabmedia Жыл бұрын
Streaky, спасибо большое за это обучение. Это то что я долго искал и наконец нашел! Благодарю тебя!
@dreezmusic1698
@dreezmusic1698 4 ай бұрын
This is an ELITE mixing tip. So glad I found this. Thank you for sharing this.
@siphomthiyane7126
@siphomthiyane7126 Жыл бұрын
This is powerful, I just tried it out it brings some unity to the track
@Countvincent100
@Countvincent100 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for that. I didn’t know proQ had a match EQ function and I use it everyday …gonna try this out now :)
@elsenior1597
@elsenior1597 Жыл бұрын
Brooo this is amazing. You dont know how much it helps. Amazing technique. Bravo 👏
@gospelmuvgospelmuv
@gospelmuvgospelmuv Жыл бұрын
Amazing skill, amazing result! Thanks Streaky for sharing.
@lukewarm5356
@lukewarm5356 Жыл бұрын
Great technique, thanks. On that particular track you could also try sidechaining the vocal to a ducker on the actual vocal track, set at 100%
@unsaved6
@unsaved6 Жыл бұрын
It’s was about bloody time for me to decipher those advanced options in Q3. Thank you
@Narz3000
@Narz3000 Жыл бұрын
This is so cool. You are the man! Thank you!
@michaeltablet8577
@michaeltablet8577 Жыл бұрын
You are so helpful! Thank you!
@aviani3335
@aviani3335 Жыл бұрын
Awesome technique! 👍
@Reydel_TrueWork
@Reydel_TrueWork Жыл бұрын
This guy is the real deal 💯 Just bookmarked and created an account on his website. Gonna be my one-stop shop for learning mixing and mastering for the next few months
@rickblackers88
@rickblackers88 Жыл бұрын
Man, i just want to thank you very much to share this!!
@joglou7247
@joglou7247 Жыл бұрын
Legend! Can't thank you enough for this one, Priceless
@aureliosilva
@aureliosilva Жыл бұрын
It also works with soothe2... and better. You just put it at the end of the instrumental track, and send a vocal sidechain into the plugin. Then adjust reduction intensity and overall q. It is way more precise cause it follows the vocal frequencies on real time and compress those areas.
@tiborreszegi6185
@tiborreszegi6185 Жыл бұрын
Yes, soothe2 is great, and useful. But its price is the price of a new house in Dubai. Only for rich. Seiously, its now 199$... a casual hobbyst cannot afford it.
@TzoHill
@TzoHill Жыл бұрын
​@@tiborreszegi6185 Trackspacer instead? It's under 50 to buy
@aureliosilva
@aureliosilva Жыл бұрын
@@tiborreszegi6185 You can get it with discount price ($120 I believe, Pro-Q is around $169) a few times a year. The other option is Trackspacer, that you can get at $40 on discount.
@philburns5656
@philburns5656 Жыл бұрын
@@TzoHill I've got Trackspacer besides soothe2. TS is way more difficult to dial in I feel. It's not easy to use it well on an "instruments" bus.
@vewilli
@vewilli Жыл бұрын
Side chaining is too difficult for me, although I have Soothe 2. I needed it for improving the vocal track, but I don’t fully understand the side chaining process in this vocal track!
@keithprice7381
@keithprice7381 Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Was having exactly this issue and following your instruction, I've now got vocals that sit really well within the mix. I was also able to reduce the vocal stem by 3dB which is quite extreme. Great advice as always. Thank you, Streaky
@mukeshpathak7302
@mukeshpathak7302 11 ай бұрын
when should I apply this technique, at the start of mixing my vocals with the beat? Or first I should finish processing my vocals and everything and then I should apply this?
@Xelmo187X
@Xelmo187X 10 ай бұрын
@@mukeshpathak7302the vocal sounds like it has a chain on it already. You can then tweak the vocals here in there if needed
@79blackbelt
@79blackbelt 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, this has been very helpful. I would enjoy hearing the tutorial with a different style of vocal.
@supermassiverecords3419
@supermassiverecords3419 Жыл бұрын
Superb technique @Streaky. Thanks for sharing mate.
@rhodesy80
@rhodesy80 Жыл бұрын
Massive difference, Thank you Streaky another hidden gem in Pro Q3, 👌👌
@midnighttrip6766
@midnighttrip6766 11 ай бұрын
Good idea for a vocal chained to an individual instrument. Pros will mostly mix from stems though, so most of that frequency adjusting is done thru the instruments/effects directly. A multi band would be better if applied to a full beat like this, so you can dial in exactly how and when each freq. band is pushed and pulled. ProMB is great for that!
@andrewamicarelli
@andrewamicarelli Жыл бұрын
Short and sweet video, keep it up!
@TeraGreene1
@TeraGreene1 2 ай бұрын
You read my mind. Thank you for your divine timing and sharing this insight! Haven’t seen a video of yours in months, and when I had a specific question I wanted to research, you “randomly “ appeared on my YT feed with the answer. Thank you! Looking forward to trying this out. ❤🎉
@metallicproduced7172
@metallicproduced7172 Жыл бұрын
I've been mixing over 3 years now and never seen anyone do this before! This is very advanced and I'm so thankful I've come across this video because I love learning new things about mixing everyday! I'll go to sleep tn fulfilled because of this video. THANK YOU
@mokujin29
@mokujin29 Жыл бұрын
Use Track Spacer or Gulfoss
@Randuski
@Randuski 11 ай бұрын
because most people don't do it. never seen a pro mixer do this kinda thing. not saying it's bad, but Taylor Swifts vocals aren't mixed like this haha
@mokujin29
@mokujin29 11 ай бұрын
@@Randuski This video was released because Dynamic EQ is THE thing in the industry atm.
@djLovelyTime
@djLovelyTime 11 ай бұрын
This method isn't for mixing vocals when you have all the damn parts, it's for mixing vocals on top of finished tracks@@Randuski
@Randuski
@Randuski 11 ай бұрын
@@djLovelyTime ah yes. Taylor swift is known to sing on top of instrumentals often
@halflightdnb
@halflightdnb Жыл бұрын
I've been using trackspacer to do this for the last year or so, but this seems like a much more detailed, accurate way of doing it. Great video, thanks.
@officialjleezy
@officialjleezy Жыл бұрын
Have you tried this method? I have been using trackspacer also
@DBTHEPLUG
@DBTHEPLUG Жыл бұрын
Soothe 2 is like this but even better.
@BattleAxeRX
@BattleAxeRX 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant video! Thanks for the amazing knowledge!
@drakewatkins2624
@drakewatkins2624 Жыл бұрын
I mostly just do vocals so this was a huge help wow thanks so much for the post 🙏
@Bronwyn031
@Bronwyn031 Жыл бұрын
In my Matrix Reloaded Merovingian voice - Well, well, well... it appears you do in fact have some skill. 🤗 I think you may have finally won me over and I'm going to look into your mixing academy after this video.
@GarethFrow
@GarethFrow Жыл бұрын
Great techniques, thanks. Any recommendations for achieving this with logic stock, or free plugins?
@davejblair
@davejblair Жыл бұрын
Haven't watched your channel for a while Streaky, but so glad I tuned in again!! Great tip on Pro Q. I have a lot of videos to catch up on.
@ramspencer5492
@ramspencer5492 Жыл бұрын
Really cool tip! I wasn't using this one. Going to try it. Thanks
@DCXTV
@DCXTV Жыл бұрын
TrackSpacer is what did it for me. I wanted to have something like it for a decade but it’s useful to notice what needs to be cut when making room manually on tracks separately (usually it’s the pads and lead synths that need room on vocal range 250hz, 500hz, 1khz, 2k roughly). Just a bit of TrackSpacer on those tracks usually is the answer and a short cut to make the mix sit better.
@konumusic
@konumusic Жыл бұрын
Do you prefer TrackSpacer or this way? I do love Trackspacer more for my reverb and some instruments but this pro q 3 version seems to be working nicely these days. I guess maybe more control? Also do you play with the attack on TrackSpacer as well? Thank you.
@DCXTV
@DCXTV Жыл бұрын
@@konumusic I usually set Trackspacer and then leave it as it is. It's great for digging out space for vocals when treating instruments, a little 10-12% in the midrange usually does enough 👌 I haven't tried Pro Q 3 but it sounds good.
@konumusic
@konumusic Жыл бұрын
@@DCXTV 🙏🏽
@neovxr
@neovxr Жыл бұрын
The autopilot to find the frequencies is a very nice trick! But you can do it also with TDR Nova GE for 6 bands, though it is not linear phase, but under 1-2 dB this should not matter too much. With the free Nova you can manually adjust 4 frequencies, that you find in the spectral display, and better than nothing, depends on the vocal, how it may vary.
@mgmthegrand
@mgmthegrand Жыл бұрын
Is the auto frequency detection that creates the points on the curve unique to Fabfilter? No other EQ does this?
@neovxr
@neovxr Жыл бұрын
@@mgmthegrand not sure about Kirchhoff. but did you not demo the Nova GE? creates it's own kind of points, then you can adjust everything. for me, it worked very well a couple of times, when there was room resonance in a mic, especially vocals and room mics for drums (that have so much resonance you can't find the forest for the trees).
@Firetracks
@Firetracks Жыл бұрын
I needed this man! Thanks! 🤘🏾🙏🏾
@dirti3_casa
@dirti3_casa Жыл бұрын
Pretty brilliant technique! Thank you!
@alfredopaixao2600
@alfredopaixao2600 Жыл бұрын
Damn Streaky, you have swept all my mixing heroes away, “the crown is yours Lord Streaky”.
@sashaalexander1833
@sashaalexander1833 Жыл бұрын
OMG. I did NOT know Fab can do that. Always was relying on different methods of demasking... Thank you so much, an eye opener indeed!
@BR_READDY225
@BR_READDY225 Жыл бұрын
Are you new to fabfilter?
@Rck-vert
@Rck-vert Жыл бұрын
@@BR_READDY225 lol
@kahyui2486
@kahyui2486 Жыл бұрын
@@BR_READDY225 not new. Just buy plugins, don't read manuals and use the bare minimum features. Until finding a video like this
@sashaalexander1833
@sashaalexander1833 Жыл бұрын
@@BR_READDY225 Yes, have to admit (as it wasn't obvious) - was stock in Melda/Izotope/UAD etc world for too long :) Haven't notice the new huge universe right in front of me :)
@koo-fan
@koo-fan Жыл бұрын
@@kahyui2486 Nice ☺
@sensaivers
@sensaivers Жыл бұрын
I have been fighting with this type of thing forever. Trying that on some mixes this weekend. Thanks Streaky.
@jasonsoudah
@jasonsoudah Жыл бұрын
Amazing!! Love this!!
@jasonaizkalns
@jasonaizkalns Жыл бұрын
A more custom trackspacer. Dope! Thanks Streaky! Want next level? Try the same thing with a mid-side play. Instrumental “sides” will bloom and sound wider.
@BodyOfPlayMusic
@BodyOfPlayMusic Жыл бұрын
Exactly, good idea.
@David_Friberg
@David_Friberg 5 ай бұрын
Sorry for necro post, but this sounded super interesting. I have just recently managed to get really sweet sounding acoustic guitar recordings with M/S, would be fun to try to tweak this even more. Would your advice apply also for acoustic guitar, blooming the stereo "sides", or would side chain ducking of a same-recording (different mic) mid just kill off the mid? If I understand correctly I use the side channel(s) to duck the volume of the mid channel, so that the side channels gets more space for their characteristic, and that I may be able to achieve this more simpler with trackspacer (until I learn the more detailed approach of this video).
@t-bonebeatz8839
@t-bonebeatz8839 Жыл бұрын
Im using Pro-Q3 since like 3 years now and I dind't know, that this plugin can do that... Very great video!
@splesniayalladyn5591
@splesniayalladyn5591 Жыл бұрын
sameeee
@tonyvincentproductions
@tonyvincentproductions Жыл бұрын
Mate- this is such a brilliant technique. So many thanks for this Streaky- appreciate you mate.
@juwayonclarke5755
@juwayonclarke5755 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always!
@TheSideProject
@TheSideProject Жыл бұрын
This video is extremely useful... Especially for us artists who are trying to mix all by ourselves. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
@mukeshpathak7302
@mukeshpathak7302 11 ай бұрын
I have one beginner question, when should I apply this technique, at the start of mixing my vocals with the beat? Or first I should finish processing my vocals and everything and then I should apply this?
@1AugustBlack
@1AugustBlack 11 ай бұрын
@@mukeshpathak7302id say after you processed the vocals
@vysventuri
@vysventuri 8 ай бұрын
@@mukeshpathak7302finish processing
@milkeebeatz
@milkeebeatz 8 ай бұрын
​@@mukeshpathak7302you can do both. But i'd rather do this after i process the vocals and export them for mastering... this comfort me that i wont mix the vocals again
@bobgrant2600
@bobgrant2600 5 ай бұрын
@@mukeshpathak7302I’m not a professional but I would for sure do it after they are processed
@Elliott.Revell
@Elliott.Revell Жыл бұрын
I produce hip hop sampled from records and this is also a great way to layer samples and get it all sounding clean. Great video mate, plus one sub!
@1337murk
@1337murk Жыл бұрын
I mix boom bap for vinyl releases if you find yourself needing a hand dude. Most recent thing was the Triple Darkness double vinyl LP, got a bunch of other mixes waiting to drop tho
@Elliott.Revell
@Elliott.Revell Жыл бұрын
@@1337murk what's your website/social?
@1337murk
@1337murk Жыл бұрын
@@Elliott.Revell Or are you in Streakys Audio Anorak community?
@Elliott.Revell
@Elliott.Revell Жыл бұрын
@@1337murk not in either sorry mate.
@savegos
@savegos Жыл бұрын
@@1337murk what’s your discord?
@TH-gu4wj
@TH-gu4wj Жыл бұрын
This is a great tip, looking forward to trying it with other things.
@Soundpact
@Soundpact Жыл бұрын
Really great technique, thanks!
@nashse7en
@nashse7en Жыл бұрын
hi Streaky, in the case of RAP music, wich sidechain method do you recomend for us to record our Vocals?
@BrofUJu
@BrofUJu Жыл бұрын
Great trick, but very similar to something like Trackspacer, yes? I love putting it on my instrumental bus and have it triggered just slightly by the dry vocal.
@blondiemazedancemusic2127
@blondiemazedancemusic2127 6 ай бұрын
Thank u, Can really hear the voice much better with this. Your a great man 🙂
@pongamissi7123
@pongamissi7123 Жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for sharing this, I used this side chain technique for other things, but this is a great purpose!!! thanks
@Sunnysideup714
@Sunnysideup714 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I tried it on something I had recently recorded and there's definitely an audible difference in the way the vocal track sits in the mix. I used to do this with waves' linear phase multi band compressor, but this approach [with the proq3] is much more surgical. Question: would you route your entire vocal buss (including harmonies, etc), or just the lead vocals? Also, the FX busses should remain directed to the stereo buss and should NOT be sidechained into the proq3 correct?
@Boaugustin
@Boaugustin Жыл бұрын
You can do it with soothe 2 and it's more accurat i think, and exactly moving with the vocal !
@chrisjames2766
@chrisjames2766 Жыл бұрын
Or Trackspacer.
@marcrobertson4735
@marcrobertson4735 Жыл бұрын
How would you do it with Soothe 2? I don't have Pro Q3.
@leopera1015
@leopera1015 Жыл бұрын
@@marcrobertson4735 Put soothe2 on the instrumental track and set the sidechain to your vocal bus, then listen for the frequency range that is most dominant/resonant in your vocals, pull those bands up and soothe2 will basically start working like a sidechain dynamic EQ to duck those frequencies in the instrumental, thus carving space for your vocals. If you want to take a step further, changing it to mid only will also help the vocals sit better.
@johngoogleuser3764
@johngoogleuser3764 Жыл бұрын
Baby audio Smooth operator also does this and it dynamically changes frequencies in real time
@bobbyhexbeats
@bobbyhexbeats Жыл бұрын
Or DSEQ on side chain mode
@mullewap6670
@mullewap6670 Жыл бұрын
Einer mit der besten Tricks, die eh je gehört habe. Dankeschön.
@thesaint7380
@thesaint7380 10 ай бұрын
wow, clever stuff, thank you so much for sharing !
@tomlawrenson2608
@tomlawrenson2608 Жыл бұрын
Alternatively, just use Trackspacer set between 5 and 10%. Also amazing for film/TV music so the dialogue and sound FX duck the music out the way. It’ll stop whoever is mixing the final audio from constantly turning down your music
@MasonTorrey
@MasonTorrey Жыл бұрын
I have Trackspacer. Does it do exactly this job though? I mean, it works perfectly for me, but I've never actually tried the method in this video to see if there's a difference.
@millenniummastering
@millenniummastering Жыл бұрын
This!
@timnordberg7204
@timnordberg7204 Жыл бұрын
That was probably one of the best before-and-after A/Bs I've ever heard on a youtube tutorial. Can you explain why it's important to use a linear-phase EQ for this? My understanding was that linear-phase EQ is best used for parallel processing. Aren't you necessarily introducing the possibility for pre-ringing into the instrumental track?
@a2bs333
@a2bs333 Жыл бұрын
I second this question
@volchonokilliR
@volchonokilliR Жыл бұрын
Perhaps linear phase was chosen to avoid phase going back and forth when EQ engages. It probably would be fine on this scale, but to keep things simple for video, linear phase was chosen as that would be more suitable in different cases. You can try to exaggerate settings on material where changes to the sound are clear, and compare natural and linear phase to choose what you prefer better. Natural phase has audible changes too, so filter with certain settings (frequency, "shape"...) on particular material may sound better with linear phase
@therealrodmosby
@therealrodmosby Жыл бұрын
Very Impressive Work! Thank you for this gem!
@SWIFTYRNORTH2009
@SWIFTYRNORTH2009 4 ай бұрын
This is such a cool tip I'll be adopting into my work. Thanks 👍
@daliusBSP3
@daliusBSP3 Жыл бұрын
Vocals are harder than people think to mix sometimes. Nice one!! 👍
@loveaboveall2382
@loveaboveall2382 Жыл бұрын
Especially live mixing, that's really kicking my butt right now.
@The247t
@The247t Жыл бұрын
@@loveaboveall2382 Once you do live mixing, you gain skills for every part of engineering
@6thwatergateplumber
@6thwatergateplumber Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I would make a gentle suggestion that if you say "bus the vocal out" that it would be helpful to explain how to do that so we can continue to follow the help you're providing with this. Thanks.
@aarons6617
@aarons6617 Жыл бұрын
What you're asking is pretty novice, and the tips he's giving are far from that -- a quick google search will answer questions like that for you. Basically you create an auxiliary track as your vocal group and send/bus all your vocal tracks to it, and that "vocal bus" will send/out to the master -- just like a bus full of people gathering and being transported to a destination. So instead of your (vocal) tracks being sent directly to your master, they're being bussed together into a group (and can be processed together) and then sent to the master (or another bus -- like sending all your leads to a lead vocal bus and your backups to a stereo background vocal bus which are both sent to your final vocal bus, and then that being sent to your 2 buss/master along with the 2 track/instrument busses). It's pretty easy once you get an understanding of it, and it can open up a lot more creativity when mixing. Good luck!
@stuffnuns
@stuffnuns Жыл бұрын
This is incredibly clever. And I just got the FabF Pro-Q 3 last week. I knew that it is a great EQ plug-in, and with the features of the ProQ, this is what i wanted to do. Thank you for the roadmap! Kudos.
@deejaytea694
@deejaytea694 Жыл бұрын
WOW. This method works Fantastic. Thank you so much.
@MFKitten
@MFKitten Жыл бұрын
I do this with Soothe 2. Also a tip: set it to mid/side mode. That way you select how much it eats from the "sides".
@xanderpills
@xanderpills Жыл бұрын
Soothe2 doesn't allow Linear Phase-mode though, right? It means you're smearing a lot of the transients as you're doing it.
@MFKitten
@MFKitten Жыл бұрын
@@xanderpills linear phase pre-ringing will smear more than the regular EQ. But since it's entirely dynamic and more of a spectral tool, you're not getting a consistent smearing in one place.
@ShalowRecord
@ShalowRecord Жыл бұрын
Can you give more detail how you do it with soothe2
@MFKitten
@MFKitten Жыл бұрын
@@ShalowRecord you put the plugin on the instrumental you're cutting into. You send vocals to the sidechain. Tell it to use the sidechain, and adjust the parameters to where it's doing the job as intended etc.
@IAMCORNHOLIOINEEDTP
@IAMCORNHOLIOINEEDTP Жыл бұрын
I also do this with soothe2, much easier than this version. Anyway this technique is very important, especially if you only got a beat and acapella track.
@Tekkerue
@Tekkerue Жыл бұрын
There's also Wavesfactory Trackspacer, but using Pro-Q3 would certainly give you a lot more control over each band.
@joechapman8208
@joechapman8208 Жыл бұрын
Trackspacer responds very slowly. Okay for some use cases, but Sonible's Smart:Comp does it a lot better.
@lannyfce4786
@lannyfce4786 Жыл бұрын
@@joechapman8208 soothe
@BrofUJu
@BrofUJu Жыл бұрын
​@@joechapman8208 really? You know you can adjust the attack and release? With insanely fast attack and release I find there's no obvious and audible pumping
@machineagevoodoo2106
@machineagevoodoo2106 Жыл бұрын
​@@BrofUJu i think he's trolling. It has like 1ms attack time or something, and it sounds absolutely good for exactly these purposes 👍
@BrofUJu
@BrofUJu Жыл бұрын
@@machineagevoodoo2106 lol, right? Maybe they didn't realize that little dot has some added attack and release options
@mphatic
@mphatic Жыл бұрын
Streaky you are Brilliant! amazing! thanks for this very much appreciated as are all your tips..I gotta find time to do your course! Gold!
@ABArtandInfo
@ABArtandInfo Жыл бұрын
that helped alot man. thank u so much for ur help
@TokyoSpeirs
@TokyoSpeirs Жыл бұрын
Isn’t this attenuating each band according to amplitude instead of frequency? Would there be a way for it to act more like a side-chained Soothe, or IZ Unmask / Trackspacer, where it ducks the track only at the fundamentals that peak out instead of flatly ducking all the masking frequencies by the same amount? Asking for a friend
@DreTheEngineer
@DreTheEngineer Жыл бұрын
its an eq bud
@svenisaksson3970
@svenisaksson3970 Жыл бұрын
Q: How do professional mixing engineers make the vocals sit so perfectly with the backing track. A: They don't! For decades, there has been been a tendency to mix the vocals louder and louder (driven by unmusical excecutives). This has made the vocals become disconnected with the instruments. Just compare mixes from the 50's, 60's 70's and 80's, with "modern" mixes. The vocals were part of the track. Today, they are a separate entity from the instruments. Yes, it's correct to use EQ to make room for the vocal. But before you do anything, lower the vocal a with bout 3dB and you will find that the vocal "gels" much better with the instruments. (I have done tests with separating vocals, for several tracks, and lowering the vocals by aproximately 3dB "improves" the track a lot by making the vocal connect with the instruments.). This has been driven by corporate excecutives, that has no knowlege about music. There are lots of mixing engineers that intentionally misslabel the "normal" level mix as "vocal up", in order to trick the excecutives. I saw an interview with a mixing engineer (I don't recall the name), who said that he always sent three mixes to the labels named; vocal down, normal, vocal up. Nobody used the "vocal down" mix. A few used the "normal" mix. But the majority used the "vocal up" mix. The thing is that the "normal" and the "vocal up" mixes were identical! Just the fact that the mix was labeled "vocal up" convinced the executives that it was "better"! What can we learn about this? Before you do anything, make sure that the vocal sits at a LEVEL that makes it feel like part of the mix. Not something that is disconnected and soars far above the music. THEN you can use EQ (and compression) to improve the legibility of the vocal. That's the differece between songs and musically backed poetry recitals.
@Streaky_com
@Streaky_com Жыл бұрын
Christ you like typing
@svenisaksson3970
@svenisaksson3970 Жыл бұрын
@@Streaky_com I don't know about that, but I do appreciate good mixes.
@46I37
@46I37 4 ай бұрын
Closed my eyes, couldn’t here the difference. Listening through QC35s. I challenge you to close your eyes and signal to a second person when the effect is in/out
@boomdaddy246
@boomdaddy246 10 ай бұрын
Just wanted to thank you and shout you out for this video. I took what you did, made a submix channel (instead of bouncing the instrumental) and this process worked like a dream. Thanks again!
@DJDOBREL
@DJDOBREL Жыл бұрын
Next level stuff, great video Streaky
@GabrielSuceaOfficial
@GabrielSuceaOfficial Жыл бұрын
Visual placebo is amazing I love it. The difference to me is unnoticeable if I'm not looking, I don't know when it's bypassed. Also willing to bet everything that literally nobody is doing this :)))) But hey it might actually be useful at some point, as with all your tips n tricks. :)
@Streaky_com
@Streaky_com Жыл бұрын
Keep it in the tool bag might help you at some point and maybe not!
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 Жыл бұрын
Top mixing engineers DO do this to some extent (although they might prefer other tools and plugins to reduce frequency masking) but it's only really for final polish on major label stuff where it's "important". The average listener can't tell a 1dB drop in volume on an entire track, let alone in very narrow frequency ranges. I think this is the sort of thing that separates Grammy winners from nominees, but it's mostly irrelevant for bedroom producers with 38 subscribers. (Albeit there's some fun to be had just from learning the tools and techniques of top producers, even if you don't create songs as good as theirs).
@GabrielSuceaOfficial
@GabrielSuceaOfficial Жыл бұрын
@@AutPen38 spot on, but also, people think these kinds of crazy techniques is what makes a song sound great. If the song is good, good vocals, good vibe, great hook and everything just really inspired, the rest doesnt really matter. As the saying goes, cant polish a turd. :) and it just so happens that great songs also receive top-end mixing and mastering but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be there without the extra polish. Just my view.
@AutPen38
@AutPen38 Жыл бұрын
@@GabrielSuceaOfficial Yeah, I love watching production and mixing tutorials as much as the next person, and I can lose hours in my home studio doing little tweaks as I try to sprinkle magic dust on my tracks using the various tricks I've learned, but it's kind of pointless spending so much time working on the "final 1%" if the song is no good in the first place. It's fun to learn those technical processes though.
@DreTheEngineer
@DreTheEngineer Жыл бұрын
@@AutPen38 No top mixing engineers never do this because they have the multi track. Did you even watch the video?
@ShloimyZaltzman
@ShloimyZaltzman Жыл бұрын
Streaky I know your a good teacher - But i've never heard your mixes or productions. Time to show us, so I can actually trust your guidance based off proof.
@tyerac
@tyerac Жыл бұрын
Google him lol. It aint that hard dude. He's WELL established for over 20 years, and has mastered and mixed some top records.
@ShloimyZaltzman
@ShloimyZaltzman Жыл бұрын
@@tyerac Sure which songs?
@matttanner1062
@matttanner1062 Жыл бұрын
@@ShloimyZaltzmanyou keep typing the same questions on KZbin but won’t open Google and look for yourself?? Sheesh
@ShloimyZaltzman
@ShloimyZaltzman Жыл бұрын
@@matttanner1062 And you write long answers back but refuse to tell me one single record he's produced... time for introspection honey. You claim he's a prominent mixer and producer - prove it. I don't have to google your claims.
@antcall6779
@antcall6779 Жыл бұрын
Great as always streaky🤘
@Endless_Skyway_Adventures
@Endless_Skyway_Adventures Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting concept. I m looking forward to trying this not only as shown but with other instruments and ducking background vocals with the lead vocal. I like this idea.
@MictlanOfficial
@MictlanOfficial Жыл бұрын
Are you god ?
@ProducedByChristo
@ProducedByChristo Жыл бұрын
He is the Gordon Ramsey of music
@deerorigues3010
@deerorigues3010 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 can’t believe you said that 😂😂😂
@officialWWM
@officialWWM Жыл бұрын
God isn’t real…so, no.
@officialWWM
@officialWWM Жыл бұрын
What if you don’t have Fabfilter?
@deerorigues3010
@deerorigues3010 Жыл бұрын
@@officialWWM he’s real
@elonthebass6870
@elonthebass6870 Жыл бұрын
It’s not bad without. And it’s debatable that it’s “better” with it. I for one don’t want strangely dynamically ducked pop song. The beat is critically important. I want the full range power of the instrumental-unmolested. If the vocals are static on top, fader automation/surgical cuts on the instrumental and or parallel processing is the better route. Lastly, in a hybrid pitch-catch setup this technique becomes wildly complex and not worth the trouble.
@Rck-vert
@Rck-vert Жыл бұрын
Garbage opinion.
@MeesterGgaming
@MeesterGgaming Жыл бұрын
i wanted to know this for sooo long. thanks!
@KirtanFi
@KirtanFi Жыл бұрын
Wow great stuff. Thank you so much!🙏🏽
@coisasnatv
@coisasnatv Жыл бұрын
Why bother with all this if the music we have today are dynamically compressed? When you compress the final result, it doesn't matter. Today audio engineers need to learn a lot from the old ones.
@olibarahosasa1137
@olibarahosasa1137 3 ай бұрын
This is an interaction between the vocal and the music. Your comment makes no sense. It’s like saying ‘why carve dovetails in these wooden panels when later on I’m gonna paint everything’
@coisasnatv
@coisasnatv 3 ай бұрын
@@olibarahosasa1137 "This is an interaction between the vocal and the music. Your comment makes no sense." Explain.
@ProLevelAVG
@ProLevelAVG Жыл бұрын
I've been using FF to sidechain vocals on the inst track but this is Sidechain 2.0. Such valuable knowledge. Thank you for the gems!
@wo_oti9882
@wo_oti9882 3 ай бұрын
Love your videos so helpful
@driggerfireon5760
@driggerfireon5760 4 ай бұрын
Mate; this is soo good & well explained & swiftly
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