Street Debate: What's life like when you 'japa' to Germany?│DW The 77 Percent

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@delroymunashe3487 Ай бұрын

Edith is such an excellent presenter. Thank you so much for such an insightful video!

@fatimalabran4076 2 ай бұрын

Quite an interesting conversation, I was glued to my screen all through.

@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 2 ай бұрын

The host is very skilled at keeping the conversation flowing.

@fatimalabran4076 2 ай бұрын

Yes she is very skilled

@rahmanmusah4470 Ай бұрын

@@fatimalabran4076wink wink. 😂😂

@Nkekiart Ай бұрын

This is the most interesting video I have come across in long time. Africa wake up 😢

@DWThe77Percent Ай бұрын

We are glad you find this insightful. Follow us for more

@ItzSeka 12 күн бұрын

I just recently moved to Germany with B1 language level , even to have a lager job it's not easy at all 😢

@dexterity_1st 2 ай бұрын

This is such a relevant topic! Moving to Germany presents both opportunities and challenges for African professionals. The language barrier and limited job opportunities are real hurdles, but the potential for skill development and financial stability can't be overlooked. It's also interesting how many people face the dilemma of staying abroad or returning home to make an impact. Thanks for shedding light on these important issues!

@DWThe77Percent Ай бұрын

There really is so much to consider and unpack (literally and figuratively!) when moving to Germany - or any other country for that matter! Glad you enjoyed the discussion!

@simbamcnorrishakata8068 Ай бұрын

Impressed by the interviewer 😎. This lady is smart, the way she flows and transitions from person to person is impressive. 👌🏾

@kingsleyokoye8791 Ай бұрын

Very professional, smart and straight to the point, flowing effortlessly from one to another

@sharonlorna8255 28 күн бұрын

Keep up the good work Edith Kimani👍🏾🙌🏾

@MendingTheBroken Ай бұрын

Talent will always go to a place where it will be rewarded

@bedeamadi9317 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Emmanuella...the right ppl to answer that Question are the African leaders. They have the responibility of making home a place youths can thrive & contribute towards Nation building & growth.

@KingofgraceSARA 2 ай бұрын

May God bless all who come across this video as well as all who will Joppa!

@createbydrhopekariuki 2 ай бұрын

Great interview Edith👏🏽

@nnannaosuagwu Ай бұрын

Very informative discourse, kudos to the presenter!

@thisisdamola 2 ай бұрын

Enjoyed every bit of this conversation.

@FizWiz91 Ай бұрын

Great interview, on the contribution and moderation side. It's always nice to see that as an African in Europe, my problems are not at all unique.

@lotannaobika6153 Ай бұрын

Thanks for having making this

@dammieoflagos280 2 ай бұрын

Nigeria is a complex piece of puzzle. Our best minds leave the country, then we complain about having crooks lead us. I’ve also come to realize that Nigeria has a strong culture problem, as a people we don’t value honesty and service. We are very individualistic. An average Nigerian is fine if everyone is suffering and he’s living fine. We even have a term for it called “it will favour me and my family”. An average Nigerian will support an evil man just because he has money. It’s very sad because it doesn’t look like things will get better soon. Maybe if we miraculously have a good president that cares for the people, till then.

@Moabayi-yf6ul 2 ай бұрын

When you say “We” , who are you referring to? You talk as if Nigeria is a nation? There are over 200 different nationalities that made up of what is now being referred to as Nigeria. It is a pseudo country that wasn’t meant to prosper from the beginning. The British did the creation for their own economic interests.

@robfinito4671 2 ай бұрын

Nice one Dami... Nigeria's leaders is a direct reflection of the people. Just the way we accuse the leaders of not caring for the citizens, same way the citizens don't care for each other. Every is stuck in a survival mode only interested in themselves and those who are related to them. Like you said, our individualism is our weakness and ironically this same Nigerians abroad know how to work together. @moabayi... that's the lie we tell ourselves as an excuse to leave things the way they are.. we are not as independent as the US where each 52 states operate independently, yet the country still thrives.

@DWThe77Percent Ай бұрын

Really interesting perspective, thanks for sharing!

@onkarabilelebeloane6091 Ай бұрын

As a South African who's wondered about the true situation in Nigeria, having read your comment and watching this video, I now get a sense of the situation in Nigeria and why some Nigerians behave in some ways.

@sammathenge630 Ай бұрын

Nigerians move everywhere out of desperation, they call it "traveling", but in essence it's escaping from a dreadful situation, and thats why they'll do anything to get ahead.

@thewaziris Ай бұрын

Wow, I really love this video. The conversation is so human and engaging.

@mtenzagh 2 ай бұрын

The way the Geman guy opened his mouth when Abubakar said he would have to receive €50-100 monthly if he was to work in Nigeria 😂😂😂😂😂😂. He couldn't believe his ears🤣🤣🤣

@ValeryTah-um6rn 2 ай бұрын

Am telling u😂😂😂😂 he just couldn't believe it

@Franklyn-j8l 2 ай бұрын

cost of living in nigeria is not the same as germany

@andrews6952 2 ай бұрын

I think he was yawning

@masterlightjames950 2 ай бұрын

There's something called cost of living, dummy.

@mzee5533 2 ай бұрын

@@Franklyn-j8la donkey 🫏 and a dog 🐕 are not the same and will never be the same.

@wn5049 Ай бұрын

Fantastic debate well done 👍🏾

@aatalrashid Ай бұрын

I loved the last. For real, you can "die" here in Africa with an idea that would otherwise make a great impact. It's okay to stay there, but at least invest back home. Lots of startups need financing, and that's how we who want to stay will change Africa.

@DrKAY-mf2oi Ай бұрын

That was a fantastic suggestion at the end. Africa needs liquidity, and if you can build trust, you can access it. Use it to start something back in your home country. That's the best way to help your country. The challenges against business will always be there, but we must not give up.

@jayo3074 Ай бұрын

Bro I feel the same way but honestly I don't trust anyone in Nigeria. I tried to start a business a while back there in real estate and it was the most difficult stressful irritating experience I've ever been through. I will never invest back in Nigeria again after that. And I'm talking about 100m naira investments so its nothing small.

@mayowa60 Ай бұрын

great interview

@ritaarthur9682 2 ай бұрын

The Ghanaian guy is very right. A lot of people are still working even though they are old to retire.

@mapletux9675 2 ай бұрын

Some of those old guys are probably hanging on because they will be in financial trouble if they retire due to low pensions, etc.

@naqeebayodamolaraji5718 2 ай бұрын

Welcome to African Civil Service where a real 66 year old man would be 58 years old on paper

@flourishandboom247 2 ай бұрын

The old people ( puppets) are still there working for their masters - the West.

@Youknowitall-G1 Ай бұрын

@@naqeebayodamolaraji5718best example is Ugandan president

@peterirungu3044 2 ай бұрын

It's very difficult to make it in most African countries. Employment rates are low, and if you decide to venture into self-employment, governments often sabotage your efforts by imposing punitive taxes and making it difficult to run a business. It's a harsh reality, but that's just the way it is.

@cuc6410 2 ай бұрын

Same in Germany but knowone is going to tell you that

@geo6460 2 ай бұрын

There can be decent wages in Africa but our biggest problems are african politicians being so corrupt and self centered

@susuilu 2 ай бұрын

Exactly , Germany is hard...those who tried selfemployment got discouraged, because of crazy policies @cuc6410

@shandapuhhuh 2 ай бұрын

@@geo6460 Yes, let's act like the west has no "soft power" over Africa. All over Africa! From controlling the "democracy" to plundering resources. You are all so innocent 😇

@AlosMan90 2 ай бұрын

Are you from Ghana 🇬🇭?

@zig738 2 ай бұрын

A very interesting topic which affects us Africans especially in non English speaking countries. There is serious need to learn national languages for better opportunities. At times I wish I started learning the language even before I migrated . Our countries are a serious disappointment, corruption, unstable economies etc

@joofliggay4986 Ай бұрын

This literally makes me feel crying. Africa disappoints its' children......

@keyafrankline8616 Ай бұрын

Edith as a young Kenyan who is considering to go abroad. This is an eye opener. I must admit it's full of mixed feelings. Good job Edith 🇰🇪🙌🏿💪

@blvckocean1770 2 ай бұрын

This was a really good watch

@hetty7891 Ай бұрын

Very nice…. This programme makes you stay till the end

@aatalrashid Ай бұрын

24:46 KENYA 💪💪💪💪💪💪

@johnwaweru7631 Ай бұрын

Very interesting conversation with practical solutions that could work for the benefit of both countries. Thanks Edith and the participants for the conversation! Come to Bonn we continue this conversation.

@dimchukwuma9930 Ай бұрын

This is the best conversation of the century. I am sharing to all my friends.

@DWThe77Percent Ай бұрын

Glad you find it insightful. And yes share away!. There are many lessons to learn and helpful tips too

@amlimited2951 Ай бұрын

Quite interesting. I'm based in the US, and always looking for ways to get younger ones out of Nigeria - a badly run country. Thanks for sharing.

@chigoville2660 Ай бұрын

please how can I immigrate into US?

@prudenceomokaro2727 Ай бұрын

Das Thema ,finde ich interessant für mich.😅

@Official.chukwuemekajames 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for making this happen

@ranafaheem741 Ай бұрын

I want to say that, I am working here since last five years and get the chance to work with people from this continent.they are v hard working, v committed and v talented.

@Littleliving333 Ай бұрын

Hi, can you be of help to anyone who wants to relocate to Germany?

@finiteconsult6181 2 ай бұрын

I studied in Germany and later moved back to Nigeria, despite being fluent in German, but the experience has been filled with mixed feelings. Looking back, with the benefit of hindsight, I realize that I might have preferred staying in Germany rather than returning to Nigeria.

@DWThe77Percent Ай бұрын

Interesting take, thank you for sharing your experience! If you don't mind sharing, what caused the mixed feelings?

@aremudavid4372 Ай бұрын

Hindsight is a thing I'd advise you not to dwell on. I wish you the best in Nigeria.

@davidmuriithi Ай бұрын

This is really dope content. Wow!! Well in DW

@DWThe77Percent Ай бұрын

Thank you!. Keep watching us for more

@HeleneaTroy 2 ай бұрын

I advice people to learn German at least up to B1 before they go to Germany. When they get there they're schocked to realise that without the German language they're kind of lost. Germans have built their country without English & continue to do so, so get with the program 😂

@tellmo3029 2 ай бұрын

HND entails 5 years of technical education; its value should not be underestimated. Discrimination and corruption in Nigeria are unfortunate realities.

@netteundgut 2 ай бұрын

Please you better take back your statement, the discrimination I am facing here in the UK, I didn't face that in Nigeria. I have a degree in public health, a second class upper, from a university in the UK.

@Kamitrainer Ай бұрын

Your discrimination case doesn't negate someone else reality of discrimination in another context. Avoid coming off as experientially superior

@rexona1178 2 ай бұрын

Cameroon has an obvious ties to Germany as it was a German colony just like Namibia. Plus, lots of Cameroonians study German in school and can speak the language before migrating to Germany. Up until the 90's, German was a language being taught at degree program at the University of Yaounde.

@arr8577 Ай бұрын

Isnt it time to develop Cameroon so ppl dont need go germany? But not in socialism

@rexona1178 Ай бұрын

@arr8577 yes just like Germans and Europeans dont need to be coming to Africa which is not developed.

@sambajallow3411 2 ай бұрын

"Unless you have a job back home do not go back home" rightly said.

@caribbeankpoplover Ай бұрын

As a Jamaican, I had to learn this the hard way 🥲

@Honey_Bee_Fly Ай бұрын

This was very interesting and educational - I’ve shared it with my friends and family. Please keep producing these Types of content 😊

@DWThe77Percent Ай бұрын

We are glad you found it helpful and of course will continue producing quality content for relevant conversations too. Remember to subscribe if you haven't yet

@tkautzor 2 ай бұрын

the problem in Germany is that there is need for labor, but the salaries are so low

@yannickingermany 2 ай бұрын

Germany is good once you know the language and don't mind the bureaucracy. Home is Always home and if home is good we all go back.

@HeyVieve 2 ай бұрын

I love conversations like this cos a lot of people come with a lot of expectations for me I would say keep ir expectations realistic or low.

@bryanotieno7106 Ай бұрын

Zero expectations

@FredWaiyaki-ix7gz Ай бұрын

Good piece..watched the ome u did on a rooftop i think im Nigeria..emotions got high...but. Its basically the same all over Africa..politicians mismanaging our countries..i should do another and let people possibly call in and interact with their African brothers and sisters.

@afolayanibukun7557 Ай бұрын

Fantastic wrap.

@soulposter 2 ай бұрын

According to the figures, as of September 2024, the unemployment rate in Germany stands at 6%. This is a slight increase from the 5.7% rate in 2023. The rise in unemployment is partly due to economic challenges related to inflation and rising energy prices, which have impacted various sectors. Germany's unemployment rate remains relatively low compared to many European neighbors despite these difficulties. But what I find interesting is that these folks are very well educated and deserve good jobs in their fields. However, my issue is with the German gentleman, proposing "bus driver" job for these folks. You don't see them driving busses when they come to Afican. Yes, I do agree with the liquidity issue. There are a number of businesses they can embark on once they raise some funds. Anyways, God bless us all. Poor man's prayer. 😢

@nxo91 2 ай бұрын

and OLD PEOPLE. It's alarming.

@soulposter 2 ай бұрын

@nxo91 . You mean those Africans looking for work in Germany are old?

@deotio2768 2 ай бұрын

They propose such jobs for Africans because they do not respect our education and intelligence. They believe they are superior

@nxo91 2 ай бұрын

@@soulposter you must be dumb. Look around a count how many young people from Germany you can see. Most young people are either foreigners or at least mixed. Germans are old or the apppear so.

@hetty7891 Ай бұрын

True but every European country you need to know their local language, so you start with a job which is not your skill then you go up. Trust me Spain is worse. No matter how skilled you are it is rare to work on your skilled field.

@FirstFifteenth 2 ай бұрын

This was great!

@netteundgut 2 ай бұрын

Everything every one has said is great, but you need to have a mindset which is unbiased. Because what I can observe in every person who was interviewed, should try and help yourself and you will prosper in Germany within 1 year, ...... Precious there are older people who do not want to retire in Germany...... All of you should learn this...... Power is not giving, but Power is taking and if it is to be taken by force, you take it by force....... I moved to Germany in 2011 and I started the language course within 2 weeks of moving to Germany. And I started to be fluent in German language within 6 months and all I did was to make sure I read 250 words in German every day. My wife stop assisting me to German offices if I needed to get things done. You need to integrate yourself, do not wait for the government to do it for you. I paid for my language course up till C2 Niveau . And I became a German citizen within 3 years.

@zig738 2 ай бұрын

Encouraging 👏👏👏

@kamwaraeric5743 Ай бұрын

Indeed there are many jobs in Germany but my friend, if you don't have at least a B1 German level, it will be a bit difficult to get one. So if you have plans in the future to work/study in Germany start learning German ASAP.

@graceacquah246 Ай бұрын

How's the salary please

@ItzSeka 12 күн бұрын

I'm presently in Germany with B1 level but it's pretty difficult even to have a lager job😢

@onkarabilelebeloane6091 Ай бұрын

God bless Africa.

@okumangodfreyemmanuel7615 Ай бұрын

We are cursed man. Its always black people at the bottom of the economic spectrum. We have warm weather and people that wear smiles on their faces despite how hard life is. We have the most corrupt leaders on the planet and they dont have intentions of improving the life of the average people.

@bugaje100 2 ай бұрын

We are getting it wrong about nepotism in Nigeria. We only focus on government jobs but the industries are limited and still looking for candidates based on merit. Furthermore, government jobs are meant to help people out of the Labor market not to earn super salaries due to the salary scaling. Finally, there is redundancy in government jobs due to over recruitment for a single position.

@temiladealamudun5063 2 ай бұрын

Sad! Sad! This is brain-drain on Nigerian economy and society. These are brilliant minds exported to Western countries and Asia. African government ought to do more for these youthful population in Africa and create infrastructures and policies that will encourage entrepreneurship and skilled jobs

@olorioluwagbengai.2932 2 ай бұрын

I like the idea part where Roger talks about collaboration, be the front for the white guys between Germany and Nigeria. It's practical and sensible

@mcviper270 Ай бұрын

Developed countries are offering these jobs to foreign nationals because the local people have figured out they cannot survive financially from what those jobs offer. That's why the German recruiter here brings over 5 Africans at a time and puts them in an apartment together. It's sad there's not the jobs in Africa to support their most skilled workers.

@Ingrid-wf4cl Ай бұрын

If they are skilled workers ,they earn enough to rent their own apartment .

@ke1-chkpg651 Ай бұрын

It’s all about the pension they would potentially earn. A monthly payout while living in Africa as a retiree is one thousand times better…..

@emmylubega4654 2 ай бұрын

Interesting debate...

@patriciamugo5444 2 ай бұрын

Lovely insights m/s kimani. What a challenge to our leader's if they are watching 😮.

@abdulahm.kenneh4777 19 күн бұрын

As a Data Scientist living in Germany. I just started learning the language due to the fact that i can not find a job without it.

@wise5674 2 ай бұрын

I'm not sure I agree with the idea of moving back to Nigeria to look for a job. You should be starting your own venture with the exposure and capital that you have acquired. We have to get rid of this job mindset for our economy to grow.

@mushiderrick9519 2 ай бұрын

@wise your point is valid. But let's be realistic we are all different people in which some people can't literally be job creators. Some one has been in school for over 18years and what he or she knows is being in a white collar job. So this is were the government needs to step in for avenues.

@wise5674 2 ай бұрын

@@mushiderrick9519 what should the government do?

@mushiderrick9519 2 ай бұрын

@@wise5674 put up infrastructure, facilities and institutions for the betterment of the country in regards to African countries mostly and systems should be straight and functional.

@wise5674 2 ай бұрын

@@mushiderrick9519 tax money is needed for all that and that’s why we need people to start companies

@sesay3168 2 ай бұрын

@@mushiderrick9519 if you spend 18 years studying and you can’t start a business, you need to ask for a refund. Studying is knowing how to problem solve not chewing textbooks

@Obidike82 2 ай бұрын

I don't know if my ears have failed me but I picked up a tinge of German accent when everyone spoke in English. From the look of things, they are all integrating.

@DWThe77Percent Ай бұрын

It can be surprising how quickly you pick up things like that when integrating!

@WanderingHomebodyKE Ай бұрын

@@DWThe77Percent@Obidike82 it's called "mirroring" as in , reflecting like a mirror. It's a subconscious psychological habit to foster connection & and ensuing access.

@rang3688 2 ай бұрын

This is a wonderful debate, and I love Roger’s closing remarks, collaboration is the key.

@DaudaIbrahim-s2w Ай бұрын

Very interesting dialogues

@JYCaesar-x8f 2 ай бұрын

I always tell people there’s no country which has better systems for immigrants, whether graduates or not, than the US. People who have masters should consider doing a second masters or PhD in the US. There’s a clear post graduate route for students here.

@chigoville2660 Ай бұрын

Hmm working on that

@Usmanilemona 2 ай бұрын

Seeing is believing, I'll go and see things for myself l, nothing fit discourage me at this point, I don see varieties of shege for Nigeria, na hell we dey right now, no be country. Japa is a certainty

@jaywonder20040 2 ай бұрын

From my perception none of the participants sounded discouraging. Me myself i am living in Germany and i can assure you that you will accumulate enough money, if you work hard. But not only that, i wish any african the opportunity to experience a society that is not infected by rampant corruption. By the time you consider to return to Nigeria, you have gained so much experience, knowledge, capital and an expanded horizon you actually will be able to realize projects you set for yourself. I wish you much success on your mission, don't give up !

@cuc6410 2 ай бұрын

@@jaywonder20040there's corruption everywhere even im Germany.

@JG-yb3ht 2 ай бұрын

My emphasis was on rampant corruption. Check and balances are working in Germany better than in west Africa.

@Deptford_ 2 ай бұрын

You have a strange mindset, why do Africans always make comments like this? Nobody is discouraging you and most Africans dont care if you japa or not.

@JG-yb3ht 2 ай бұрын

@@Deptford_ Are you referring to me ? In Case this is the matter. I just said that none of the speakers sounded discouraging in my opinion and that he should keep on pushing. I don't even think you are in the position to give a profound statement never being exposed to other countries. I am working in Germany myself. Don't get emotional.

@Supervisor-k7d Ай бұрын

After moving back home. I remember advising someone not to go to Canada but as usual, there is no bigger ego than a person with a visa and money. Not only, has the guy been in the same dead end jobs for the past two years, cleaning, care giving and factories. He can't return because the money is never enough and they love the cheap labor. Like many others, he left at 30 , I'm sure he will be back at 45 or 50 because the money will never be enough. And when it finally is you're too old to enjoy it.

@johnohando2390 2 ай бұрын

Edith again bossing another interesting topic

@abigaildziwonuamable9818 Ай бұрын

God bless you dear great 👍 job

@prudenceomokaro2727 Ай бұрын

Das Thema ,finde Ich es interessant für mich.😅

@post_eternity 2 ай бұрын

The core of the process is "the language"

@maureengichina6490 Ай бұрын

Edith could you one day do a comparison of ausbildung vs, studying interview?

@ogarchris 2 ай бұрын

Hauwa 😊😊😊❤❤❤

@fewcommentsonnews.4842 Ай бұрын

))))))) The DW team JOURNALISM on Street Interview. The Germany has trying to Change Its NefariouS past through to implementing Some of INCLUSIVES Policies into the Country. To receiving Skilled workers AFRICANERs or not in order to provide for them better job'S opportunities. IT Have been a such as CHALLENGING momentum within the right- wing- rising inside of the Country Even though have been reason to greeting them for the worthilly iniciatives. As was told by many of Interviwed , the germany language IS an hurdle amidst the proces's interview to get an good job opportunity. But, Although to that Stil is possible managing with dedicate effort the Situation.

@mzee5533 2 ай бұрын

14:28 she’s spot on it really sucks as an African and we’ve normalized this behaviour.

@ElsBels25 Ай бұрын

German is not an easy language and I say this as a HALF German, HALF Brit! But if you move to a country you have to learn the language. I lived in Catalonia and it is not easy there to even get jobs in SPANISH, since most peopel speak Catalan as first language.

@sesay3168 2 ай бұрын

If I have $100k saved up any day. I’ll happily leave US for Gambia Or Senegal. I will start my business from scratch even it means struggling at the beginning.

@essadonzo3152 2 ай бұрын

That’s great, but many successful businesses in Gambia or Senegal that are thriving today didn’t start with 100k. A lot of them began small and grew over time. The hardest part is getting started. Just make that plan, do that research, study that market, take that first step and lunch that product/service.

@sesay3168 2 ай бұрын

@@essadonzo3152 Definitely planning, understanding the market, product development etc are very important. However, the 100K saving is all not going to the business but it’s a goal I want to achieve.

@donotreplydumbpeople3866 2 ай бұрын

And you’re loose it all

@TopWriter-hd9jh 2 ай бұрын

What are your challenges in the U.S?

@sesay3168 2 ай бұрын

@@TopWriter-hd9jh Everyone has challenges here.For me, I don’t feel like I belong here, systemic racism, micro aggression at work paces, etc.

@intersectionalbinadamu 2 ай бұрын

“africa is rich” and then peter fox here says that capitalism/privatization is what will help us.. Its hard to take this seriously, lol. I would love to hear panafrican, postcolonial opinions, but i realise this show is for informants. I do appreciate Edith’s interviewing style!

@Olu_Adm 2 ай бұрын

This is an educative debate and I was glued to the very end. Darf ich mit Herr Roger Schwarz kennenlernen, bitte?

@magmamusic4543 2 ай бұрын

Very funny how people in Germany are fighting for early retirement, but it’s the other way round in Ghana, where people are rather reluctant to retire 😂💔

@naqeebayodamolaraji5718 2 ай бұрын

They probably have welfare benefits/ social welfare that would protect them in Germany. Most African countries don't have such. Retire and you are basically on your own