Street Fighter 6 M. Bison Review! Cool, Overtuned & Anti Meta

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VesperArcade

VesperArcade

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@MegaBleedman
@MegaBleedman 4 ай бұрын
The first time I played this Bison I had to keep reminding myself his scissor is not charge anymore and I still do it LOL
@WoWisdeadtome
@WoWisdeadtome 4 ай бұрын
I'm a Guile main so take what I'm about to say here in that context. Most of Bison's kit is stressful for me but manageable. I notice a lot of people are letting Bison get away with blocked H. Knee Press when it's -5 and his hurtbox is extended more than you might think. I get cr. LP, sweep against that consistently and Bison's defense is not good so letting me pressure him after is big. Neutral jumps or jumping back when cornered is also a good way to land a punish if Bison is too Knee Press happy. The best part about jump back in the corner is that if I catch Bison going for Devil's Rise shenanigans I can air back throw him into the corner. The only move I have a problem with is EX Psycho Crusher and only the EX version, it's so fast I often get hit by it even when I'm NOT throwing booms and just walking forward and unlike things like Honda headbutt and Blanka ball, it's multi-hitting. Even on PP EX Psycho Crusher is extremely difficult to punish because if you release parry and press a button you get counter hit by the second hit and if you just hold parry or block Bison is safe (maybe PP into DI works?). You have to PP, then PP again after the freeze, then PP again to get a punish on it. Due to its speed I also have a very hard time flash kicking it which I can do at least some of the time to moves like Honda Headbutt or Blanka Ball (yes, even EX air ball) and both of those are relatively easy to punish on PP. Neutral jump might punish Bison but only if you're just lucky and Bison randomly throws EX Psycho Crusher out. Typically I've baited it after landing H. Flash Kick by throwing up a sonic blade then quickly standing up and pressing jab. I recover in time to block (or PP) but it often gets Bison players to use EX Psycho Crusher there because they think the boom is coming but I definitely don't have time to neutral jump there. It just seems like such a brainless way to get in because even if you're wrong every time all you lose is your turn. If it wasn't for the fact that it's a charge move I don't know how Guile could even play the matchup. At least because it IS a charge move there are times I know Bison can't use it and I can play some kind of boom game around that knowledge.
@789tridente
@789tridente 4 ай бұрын
TO BE FAIR, Guile was historically a hard mu for Bison, knee press is -5 but is dumb easy to space to make it safe and unreactable. I don't see a world where they dont nerf it on the next patches
@BravadoLuciano
@BravadoLuciano 4 ай бұрын
@@789tridenteit’s actually no nerf to it, its tuned correctly and players will adapt. Like making it more then -5 kills the move and making it charge, players are going to have to deal with a lamer playing bison, one that sits back and waits alot more
@purefire21
@purefire21 4 ай бұрын
@@789tridentenext patch 2025 lol
@for3v3xyy0ung
@for3v3xyy0ung 4 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure heavy scissors is -4 the others are -5
@chilledchupacabra5317
@chilledchupacabra5317 4 ай бұрын
@@for3v3xyy0ung I thought that was at perfect spacing, if you only hit once with it it’s -4
@UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart
@UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart 4 ай бұрын
Why would he not. He’s the ultimate Boss.
@oOYourdadOo
@oOYourdadOo 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. If its ok for Akuma, then it should certainly be ok for M. Bison.
@nunyabizwacks6711
@nunyabizwacks6711 4 ай бұрын
​@@oOYourdadOo hes worse (or better) than Akuma for sure tho, whichever way you see it. Right now this character is the biggest crutch character in the game yet.
@reggiemoore755
@reggiemoore755 4 ай бұрын
No akumas is the ultimate boss bison is the story boss
@TexasHollowEarth
@TexasHollowEarth 4 ай бұрын
@nunyabizwacks6711 - ... Unfamiliar with SF2 Champion Edition Bison, I see.
@Kazaam1996
@Kazaam1996 4 ай бұрын
Something important that people are not taking advantage of is the extended hurtbox after knee press. PLEASE punish him if he ever cancels into any knee press after you block any cancelable normal, it is in punishable range (unless you’re someone with really shitty 5f light range)
@Regula_joe
@Regula_joe 4 ай бұрын
Like Ed😒
@moanasandford4029
@moanasandford4029 4 ай бұрын
​@@Regula_joe yep, Ed can't do shit.
@A2ZOMG
@A2ZOMG 4 ай бұрын
​@@moanasandford4029 Ed literally has one of the absolute best 5f though.
@Kazaam1996
@Kazaam1996 4 ай бұрын
@@Regula_joe Haven’t specifically labbed it so maybe I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure Ed can do 2LK 623HP whenever they cancel into light or medium knee press on block
@Regula_joe
@Regula_joe 4 ай бұрын
@@Kazaam1996 its all about spacing. If the bison is spacing it correctly i just dont risk it because you are in a spacing trap
@GramdalfFGC
@GramdalfFGC 4 ай бұрын
Obviously I’m a long time Bison main, so I’m bias, and I’m not here to downplay him, but i think some of this is slightly hyperbolic. He’s strong yes but it’s very early and his defence is absolutely ass which is par for the course. People talk about scissors pressure but literally someone today on twitter discovered there’s massive gaps in his strings that you can DI or exploit in other ways. There’s a lot of knowledge checks with this version of Bison, maybe he is overuned slightly but I also think he has very clear and defined weaknesses which is sort of where you want characters to be. To say he’s better than SFV Luke is insane to me, that character had everything, basically no weaknesses at all.
@KARS215
@KARS215 4 ай бұрын
I can validate that statement about DI lol. Random DI works on Bison like it does with Zangief.
@GreenBro11
@GreenBro11 4 ай бұрын
I have to disagree on one thing. His defense is not ass. That might be his biggest downplay overall. He has great anti air buttons with crouching heavy punch, and devil rise is throw invincible and he has invincible supers. Yeah not having an OD reversal means his defense is worse than a top tier, but compared to playing Manon, Lily, or Kimberly who easily has the worst defense in the game, Bison is way ahead of them.
@AnthonyBottari
@AnthonyBottari 4 ай бұрын
Long Bison main here too and I agree
@AnthonyBottari
@AnthonyBottari 4 ай бұрын
​@@GreenBro11 are you a Kim main?
@GreenBro11
@GreenBro11 4 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyBottari I am and admittedly I’m only platinum to low diamond with her so my opinion may not be valid to higher skill players, but she’s incredibly weak defensively and just playing Bison in ranked for a few hours feels like I have more options than when playing Kim.
@LimitRX
@LimitRX 4 ай бұрын
Great analysis vesper
@Jarrych83
@Jarrych83 4 ай бұрын
I can see people starting to adapt to his knee press and crusher with perfect parry, but he absolutely has his air mixups. I'm also starting to see lots of pokes to deal with knee press. He definitely struggles with cross ups. His anti air tools aren't great for that. I do think the damage might be a hair too high for the game in general. Like, with a setup and a lot of resources, fine, high damage. But probably not 75% THAT easily. And yeah, OD crusher should probably be a hits of armor situation vs full projectile invul.
@devinand1fosho
@devinand1fosho 4 ай бұрын
Nakayama’s favorite character is bison thats part of why he is good.
@ItsAkile
@ItsAkile 4 ай бұрын
As I say, who needs defense when the only button we press is forward
@jackd6881
@jackd6881 3 ай бұрын
sonic walkspeed and godlike normals great air to air properties on his jump ins, he never has to play defense. Such a lame excuse
@cydoc_178
@cydoc_178 4 ай бұрын
Capcom: “Honda headbutt is too much. Its just too much! Gut it! Also capcom: “You know what Bison needs? A better v1.0 honda headbutt”
@AsAboveSoBelow-g7d
@AsAboveSoBelow-g7d 4 ай бұрын
im seeing a whole lot of "this character is perfectly fair and balanced because theyre my new main" in here
@al8704
@al8704 4 ай бұрын
Majority rules money is power
@josevitorcalfa2
@josevitorcalfa2 4 ай бұрын
Akuma is back, Rashid got better, Bison is back and is top tier... I am the only one having a serious SF5 déjà vu here?
@Yeet-ing
@Yeet-ing 4 ай бұрын
i like knee press, cause its like playing the stock market with a small advantage. Nerf: reduce the cancel window from psycho crusher, more scaling on psycho crusher cancels to SA. This character is how you make a playable Boss character. Kudos, Capcom, kudos.
@ragingsilver
@ragingsilver 4 ай бұрын
For the longest time I called the knee press move scissor kick....I thought the second part of his stomp was knee press lol
@adamlannerd1408
@adamlannerd1408 4 ай бұрын
It's always been Knee Press but Capcom will change the name for no reason depending on the game.
@soliduswasright678
@soliduswasright678 4 ай бұрын
I think people will calm down once he gets labbed more. He has definite weaknesses but all anyone is doing is sharing clips of his 7k combos and going OMG SO BROKEN even though they require all your meter and bomb set ups. Knee Press is definitely getting nerfed though, I agree.
@KARS215
@KARS215 4 ай бұрын
All Capcom needs to do is make it a charge command again. I prefer it that way.
@webadagrande
@webadagrande 4 ай бұрын
yeha weakness tell me 5 if u only say shit defense wich is a lie and no reversal u are shit
@F.Hakeem89
@F.Hakeem89 4 ай бұрын
​@KARS215 I don't see knee press getting reverted to a charge cause of Modern Controls and that will overlap the Psycho Crusher Charge.
@evilweevle
@evilweevle 4 ай бұрын
i would say that kneepress pushback on block will be reduced so it will be harder for bison to space it correctly in neutral and not get punished for it. i think -5 on block is fine personally. I found as long as you dont do it in blockstrings you will be fine.
@HeyMomonia
@HeyMomonia 4 ай бұрын
​@@F.Hakeem89Wait that's why it's a motion move instead of charge?
@vitillo0093
@vitillo0093 4 ай бұрын
I think Bison is a well round and balance character not broken or something like that capcom is doing a great job with the characters design in sf6.
@kriscotd76
@kriscotd76 4 ай бұрын
And your well rounded bit that bright ..No character should be flying across the screen for free and OB un punishable ..Too many plus frames ..
@kei7540
@kei7540 4 ай бұрын
​@@kriscotd76he can't fly across the screen for free he needs a mine and even with that if you call that he'll do a crusher you can jump
@kriscotd76
@kriscotd76 4 ай бұрын
@@kei7540 you can’t punish ex crusher ob …
@kei7540
@kei7540 4 ай бұрын
@@kriscotd76 perfect parry drive reversal if your character has a reversal you can use that
@itsmesteve1081
@itsmesteve1081 4 ай бұрын
I agree. People are overrating him too much. People said the exact same thing about akuma. And look what happened? People still think ken might be better than him. When you study a character in a vacuum like this it is easy to get caught up in the strengths, but once you put him in a fight he becomes a lot easier to read. Just to be clear, I think he is pretty balanced as well. Unfortunately for Rashid though, it might actually be a tougher matchup since he basically has no level 2 in it.
@lunatrap1504
@lunatrap1504 4 ай бұрын
Im so happy they nerfed Kimberly in the beta.
@thebeluvdtrex
@thebeluvdtrex 4 ай бұрын
Thats random
@geoffreytasker2097
@geoffreytasker2097 4 ай бұрын
I think she's being sarcastic. Saying that they hyper nerfed her but other characters have been released either over tuned or buffed to be over tuned.
@captainphoton1693
@captainphoton1693 4 ай бұрын
Knee press could be a double down ->button for modern. Exactly like ruy's denjin charge. Doesn't solve everything. But it's not instant. In any case. I feel like modern blocks a lot of liberty in Charaters movesets.
@shaunmcisaac782
@shaunmcisaac782 4 ай бұрын
It's almost like Modern was a terrible idea
@nunyabizwacks6711
@nunyabizwacks6711 4 ай бұрын
Bison is easily top 1, reversal or not. Plus his lvl 1 and 3 can be used as reversals atleast anyway. Plus at the highest level of play, its not like the reversals come into play as much, and now with wakeup drive reversal for everyone, it hurts him even less. The more i played against Bison and used him over the last couple of days, hes easily the most OP character in the game yet and is the first character that i so quickly fekt needed a nerf for sure, the first character that ACTUALLY needs an emergency nerf. The damage is insane and thats what everyone is focusing on, but the dmg def isnt the first thing that needs nerfed. If someone gets an 8k combo off on me, more power too him. But all his tools are amazing and so is his neutral and its too hard to take a turn against him. Its annoying and the most obnoxious character yet easily. Thats why so many ppl are playing him now, unlike Akuma, who everyone was playing the second he dropped cuz they already wanted to....alot of ppl arent big fans of playing as Bison and the first day and a half to 2 days, not that many ppl were playing him, then ppl started seeing how busted he was now we out here dealing with the same shit we did with Akuma, facing Bison in 85% of ur matches. I already dont even care about using him anymore because im literally already bored of him from facing him so much. Same with Akuma, i got burnt out on him without even ever playing him lol
@nickkiller-0710
@nickkiller-0710 4 ай бұрын
When I saw Broski playing Bison it was when I realized that this character is truly Nakayama's boy lol He could be this season's JP, he has a bunch of good tools out the gate and then if you optimize him you can get a lot more still. The one thing I find to be messed up is that they just covered his weaknesses for no reason, dude just flies through fireballs and for some reason he can combo out of his now very consistent anti airs.
@AnthonyBottari
@AnthonyBottari 4 ай бұрын
*Matsumoto's boy.
@kei7540
@kei7540 4 ай бұрын
I mean without that the dude is kinda trash
@AnthonyBottari
@AnthonyBottari 4 ай бұрын
@@nickkiller-0710 he's nowhere near JP S1! strong lol JP had so many options and routes from far and up close lol. He has to spend bar to reliably get thru fireballs the standard version is too risky and can easily be blocked and punished.
@nickkiller-0710
@nickkiller-0710 4 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyBottari oh S1 JP was definitely better, I just mean that they're similar in the fact that they're characters that have a very strong game plan from the get go on top of having mechanics that, with proper labbing can be devastating. Like Scissor Kick and EX Psycho Crusher are obviously strong, but then if you start digging you find some nasty stuff with his bomb setups. It's nowhere near the level of insanity of something like Amnesia and JP lvl2 on launch day, but I do think the Devs want the villainous characters (JP, Akuma and now Bison) to have an impact in the meta.
@AnthonyBottari
@AnthonyBottari 4 ай бұрын
@@nickkiller-0710 ok yeah for sure! I still think Akuma is best in the game right now if not it's Rashid who I felt was very slept on at first until the longtime Rashid mains opened people's eyes up lol
@dmen0563
@dmen0563 4 ай бұрын
Here comes the crying
@kiwi2257
@kiwi2257 4 ай бұрын
People tend to "cry" when a character is very, very clearly absurd. His lack of a reversal is a downside but quite literally everything else is absolutely insane.
@waterdog737
@waterdog737 4 ай бұрын
for months on end better to pick him up or lab up.
@waterdog737
@waterdog737 4 ай бұрын
​@kiwi2257 no reversal is a nothing because he is such a powerful character. Power creep at his finest
@deltapromasterlauj4848
@deltapromasterlauj4848 4 ай бұрын
more broken then JP first season???? nahhhhhh
@strumbox87
@strumbox87 4 ай бұрын
He’ll be nerfed next patch as always, Capcom needs their $$ first. Then everyone will go to the next cheapest character rofl 🤣
@Talisman18t
@Talisman18t 4 ай бұрын
I'm here for the Meta shakeup
@misfit1347
@misfit1347 4 ай бұрын
His scissor kick has push back and everyone tries to punish it on block. They whiff of course and you can punish that with cr. Mk and go right back into scissor. I’ve been doing this since he came out. You can also shimmy right after scissor too. They try to punish or grab and you can attack them accordingly.
@peteroneill1859
@peteroneill1859 4 ай бұрын
Bison should be strong he's a boss character. People complain when a character is strong then complain when a character is weak so the devs can't win 🤷
@pokefriend123
@pokefriend123 4 ай бұрын
I'm gonna Raging Demon the Dictator like the good ol' days!
@zachculberson4457
@zachculberson4457 4 ай бұрын
Making knee press charge I think balances him pretty well. Idk if OD psycho crusher should go through rashid’s level 2 lol.
@Tremuoso
@Tremuoso 4 ай бұрын
I think they should revert it to a charge and make it -4 at the very worst to compensate and then there wouldn't be anything to complain about
@BlueLightningSky
@BlueLightningSky 4 ай бұрын
Weird how the knee press is like a charge special while psycho crusher is like the regular special.
@1TheMIU
@1TheMIU 4 ай бұрын
The problem with scissor kick is there is no obvious counter play. You can di it or neutral jump if u have the read(not on reaction) . And u can get a jab punish on it if youre lucky. And the problem with the jab punish is u cant link into crouch mk for a drive rush after cause hes alwasy just to far. And if ur jab happens to miss(more often than not) youve lost your turn. For a move that skips neutral,combos on counter hit and punish counter ,dodges low, does drive gauge damage, restands for a 50 50 , is safe on blck prrtty much and spaces bison out enough so u cant take your turn back and is not also a charge move so u can't even thats the penalty hes taking for having such a good move. I mean who let capcom cook?😂
@shaunmcisaac782
@shaunmcisaac782 4 ай бұрын
If it left him in the same range as on hit, it would be totally fair. Because you didn't hit confirm, and therefore the -5OB becomes an actual punish counter combo.
@1TheMIU
@1TheMIU 4 ай бұрын
@@shaunmcisaac782 exactly
@mrteknas
@mrteknas 4 ай бұрын
Hey Vesper, how do you setup the training mode so that the opponent always stays in burnout?
@Tremuoso
@Tremuoso 4 ай бұрын
Motion knee press really stands out in this game to me in a way that even the strongest stuff in the game so far hasn't. It feels not thought-through. It functions almost identical to the classic bison scissor kick that is designed to be gated behind a charge. It's a little bit more minus on block than scissors clasically is, but being able to walk forward and do it instantly with no carge gating it is an insane giga upside, and if you have any legacy skill at knowing how to space and place the scissors on the tip at the right distances then the block disadvantage is a damn near negliglbe downside, I would say. I am not gonna be surprised at all in the future to see knee press get changed to either be significantly more minus on block or change it back to a charge motion and make it slightly less minus on block.
@Jaguar2kicks
@Jaguar2kicks 4 ай бұрын
They should have brought back the Psycho Banish attack from Capcom vs Snk 2
@purefire21
@purefire21 4 ай бұрын
I’m a Bison main but that change to scissor kick was killer to me so now i’m just a Guile player
@purefire21
@purefire21 4 ай бұрын
If you ok with it that’s because you not a real charge player! imagine they turn Ken’s uppercut to a charge move
@waterdog737
@waterdog737 4 ай бұрын
@@purefire21 You mean Terry's Rising Tackle?
@oOYourdadOo
@oOYourdadOo 4 ай бұрын
Reading comments pisses me off about this game. A reminder of whats sour about it, and not a good sour. Perfect fucking parry. Drive Parry aside, perfect parry is just waaaaayyyy to simple and it happens way too damn often. This is not a good mechanic. People in the comments just, “yeah ill just perfect parry. hehehe” like bro, this shit really takes away from any fun and skill in Street Fighter. Takes away from what a lot of players SHOULD be learning; thats how to block. “Oh? I dropped my combo and im -3? Perfect parry time! hehehe”, “Oh? My opponent is jumping at me? I cant tell if i should block left or right, but its okay because perfect parryyyy. hehehe”, “Oh? Are you trying to frame trap me again into counter hit because i keep mashing through your strings? Well guess what? Thats not all i mash. PERFECT PARRY! hehehe” Like i cant even try new shit on people. Literally gotta play passive-aggressive and purposely give up my turn, MY TURN, because a mfer just presses a button and gets a perfect parry automatically, and the times they dont get a PP they still recover as if they blocked normally. So its a get out of jail free card, its a uno reverse card, its a anti-air, its a lame way to play. If they arent willing to make it harder to get perfect parries, then at least make using parry more punishing. At this point it should cost 2 bars to activate drive parry. If they successfully block a string they already recover made drive gauge anyway so wouldnt be a big deal. Would incentivize holding parry more, WHICH IN TURN, will give the aggressor more opportunities for mind games, and for the defender to making riskier choices. Burn 2 bars because you cant block left or right, or hold the mix? Or make it so that blocking while parrying also causes chip damage. So the health is recoverable, but if you get hit with white life, you lose all that health. Then i can justify (not really, but i would try) having perfect parry be so damn easy to perform. In my perfect world, perfect parry would be a separate input where the person has to press forward input at the moment an attack is about to connect to do perfect parry. But i see how that hurts charge characters.
@antonsundin2974
@antonsundin2974 4 ай бұрын
OD psycho crusher seems a bit too versatile lol. Safe on block with massive pushback, AA, full screen projectile punish and easy to confirm into lv3. Beating Rashid lvl2 from full screen on reaction is just nuts.
@moanasandford4029
@moanasandford4029 4 ай бұрын
When I trier Bison on day 1, after 30min, I was convinced that knee press would get nerfs quickly. It's still very weak to neutral jump as usual and it loses hard to DI. But I still believe that this move is overtuned. And I'm saying that even though I want to dual main him with Ed.
@lancecryor
@lancecryor 4 ай бұрын
Whenever I see a character that's this good I just know to enjoy them right then because they're definitely going to get nerfed. People are going to complain and complain and complain and complain.
@merkyofaycemfx2944
@merkyofaycemfx2944 4 ай бұрын
why do people keep comparing knee press to headbutt? HHS and knee press act closer alike than headbutt and knee press. OBV the comp between headbutt should be psycho crusher. HHS and scissors leave standing, and often times can combo from them. PC and headbutt have forward charge moves that knock down
@Longlostpuss
@Longlostpuss 4 ай бұрын
Bison shouldn't even be a DLC character, he should just be a part of the normal SF2 roster with all the others. Capcom could just have made him unlockable without the need to charge people to be able to access him, it's taking the piss.
@itsmesteve1081
@itsmesteve1081 4 ай бұрын
Everybody says Akuma was going to be top tier too, which he is, but still not as good as ken. This will be the same case. Bison has his strengths and weaknesses, but I feel like his weaknesses become more apparent once you actually start playing against him. If you study every move in a vacuum like this then obviously he is going to look overpowered. But once you put him in the fire he becomes sort of average. I will admit he is probably the first character to be able to consistently beat Rashid's level 2, but still... That dynamic doesn't apply to a lot of the other characters in the cast. He has good neutral buttons and his Knee Press is a pretty reliable spacing trap, but he still doesn't have that x factor like Dee Jay's sway or Guile's slow fireball and corner pressure. These things mechanically transcend the game whereas M. Bison is still within it. Is he going to be top tier? Sure, but he isn't going to be beating everybody in a tournament. He has clear strengths and clear weaknesses. He is fair in the overall balance of things
@alphach1mp
@alphach1mp 4 ай бұрын
I starting to see top tier as something broken and excellent tools and top tier excellent tools but you can still punish them when they whiff, or you block correctly. Bison, Akuma, Manon, Luke, Marisa, Ed, all have broken top tier where you have cheap normals that go to very high damage, broken mechanic where if they drive rush you with more ex bars and you are trapped in a corner, it's all over. They have to have more recovery frames where you can punish their blocks AND when they whiff. Otherwise, all these characters can just bumb rush in and abuse.
@普空卡
@普空卡 4 ай бұрын
Hey vesper, do you want to a character redesign tier list?
@Friedafterbirth
@Friedafterbirth 4 ай бұрын
Yep. When I saw O.D. Psycho Crusher go through my Yssar on oki setupI was like "Welp, there goes the Rashid is too good" talk lol
@Perkerupper_
@Perkerupper_ 4 ай бұрын
You didn't mention his c.HP, which I think may very well be the best grounded anti-air in the game.
@Kazaam1996
@Kazaam1996 4 ай бұрын
No air invuln and 10f startup how is it the best grounded anti air? It’s literally identical to nerfed JP cr.hp except it’s slower (although you can cancel the first two frames into specials, would be broken if the cancelable hitbox wasn’t dogshit)
@Ryuma103desires
@Ryuma103desires 4 ай бұрын
Yea c.hp is ok a best , jp's c.hp and probably several others characters are definitely better​@@Kazaam1996
@andyknigth
@andyknigth 4 ай бұрын
You seem to know a lot about characters! Why are you not competing?
@punkypony5165
@punkypony5165 4 ай бұрын
“WaaaAh! Waaaaah!” Get good all that needs nerfing is scissor kicks
@mitchlacasse361
@mitchlacasse361 4 ай бұрын
Adjusting Knee Press is easy, make it not push back as much on block so it's not safe to throw out
@ouranos0101
@ouranos0101 4 ай бұрын
It’s always been safe when Bison learns how to use it. It’s part of the game plan. Get gud
@mitchlacasse361
@mitchlacasse361 4 ай бұрын
@ouranos0101 I'm not complaining, just saying that's a way they can adjust Bison if they decided he needs it. I love him how he is, I've been a Bison main since sf5 and am loving his sf6 version. But if Capcom deem they need to adjust him, that would be the likely way to do it
@mitchlacasse361
@mitchlacasse361 4 ай бұрын
@ouranos0101 btw, it's those toxic "get gud" comments that make me hate online play
@AnthonyBottari
@AnthonyBottari 4 ай бұрын
OD crusher goes clean thru Yasaar!
@X1Guiltywaves
@X1Guiltywaves 4 ай бұрын
Ngl Ioved the the video, damage whose he a lil od but I don’t see a jp damage near or Marisa damage nerf so I have to complaints. He probably the best punisher in the game but he has to work for it a lil. Yes his scissor kick is a low crush buts it’s his only none charge move besides the mine or scissors. Scissors is very reactable on block and is only good as a punisher move but that’s all. You can hit it with a high move dp or super it, even fire ball if he punished your fireball u got red or your not pacing enough he gets nothing of off of psycho unless the mine is on u and at that point u should be playing defensive anyway. I’d say that they should nerf his damage by scaling the 2nd ex move on his combos since that’s what give the extra damage when the mine is planted. Making scissors a charge move won’t change anything I played bison in the older games it’ll just make us turtle more mid screen to can u in short make us better since there’s a prerequisite that it’s easily spammable
@oboroshogun
@oboroshogun 4 ай бұрын
He should be at the same range on block that he is on hit.
@BravadoLuciano
@BravadoLuciano 4 ай бұрын
Every character also has a move similar to knee press in their respective rights if you think about it
@BravadoLuciano
@BravadoLuciano 4 ай бұрын
Aki - Fireball(space traps), Lightwhip, double kicks, qcb hp Akuma- Fireball(space traps) Blanka- Blanka Ball Cammy - Spin, Hooligan throw Chun- Fireball, Flip kick, Deejay - Everything Dhalsim- Fireball Honda- Headbutt Ed- Flicker, Fireball Guile- Fireball, Sonic blade Jamie- Palm, Rekka Jp - Everything Juri- Fireball (does have to stock though) Ken- Fireball, Dragon lash, Jinrai Kimberly - Run baits, Teleport Lily - We all already know Luke - Sandblast space trap and in neuch Manon - Flip kick Marissa - …..we already know Rashid- We already know… Ryu - fireball space trap, donkey kick, palm Gief - actually not anything
@BravadoLuciano
@BravadoLuciano 4 ай бұрын
They needed to give bison some leverage as a character in the current meta to make him worth playing which is why they added the mine as well because its like sure he has knee press space traps but everyone does and most of what he’s doing can be translated to other characters he just “looks cooler doing it” so it adds an effect
@BravadoLuciano
@BravadoLuciano 4 ай бұрын
And in making knee press charge it would be alot more baited with the meta of DI in sf6 which capcom thought about. Its a move where they made it -5, a bit more able for players to throw it out recklessly with motion and made him have no reversal for a reason. Because one time its missed spaced leads to a knockdown and a guess situation with no immediate answer
@BravadoLuciano
@BravadoLuciano 4 ай бұрын
Hope I could clarify some views with these responses, I know the salt is to come but just wanted to give player’s without too much of an understanding of developers approaches a bit more knowledge. He still has what made him who he was in his sf legacy and thats undeniable, I’ve always complained about bison since sf4 but do I beat him yes. He hasn’t changed much especially if you actually look on the older gameplay of him, he’s just always tailored to the current build of the sf we play like every other character
@nanobreaker1128
@nanobreaker1128 4 ай бұрын
Bisons fun and hes not braindead like ryu,akuma,and ken 10/10
@ItsAkile
@ItsAkile 4 ай бұрын
He needed it to make sure we remember he's the BOSS, shocked they didnt do a gaint attack, yet?
@F.Hakeem89
@F.Hakeem89 4 ай бұрын
Psycho Crusher is Honda Headbutt on Steroids.
@damibaut3577
@damibaut3577 4 ай бұрын
Psycho crusher is perfect like it is, it fucking minus a lot, ex Crusher is the only really good one, and Keeping in mind that a lot of people have god ex moves is normal so nothing to say there, about Rashid wind, any good Rashid is going to throw wouldnt throw a lv 2 in that way so it dont really counts, at the end is a charged move and is normal to be strong
@AMNON489
@AMNON489 4 ай бұрын
Hmm… I don’t know how people are managing to steam roll with him. Anti airing with him is stressful even with psycho crusher. Knee is good as long as people don’t constantly jump or DI. Even the recovery of knee is bad so if you whiff it you’re in a world of hurt. His back walkspeed is abysmal leaving him more susceptible cr mk. And of course no invisible dp hurts not having. He seems mid to me but only time will tell how good he really is.
@shaunmcisaac782
@shaunmcisaac782 4 ай бұрын
If they're reaction DI'ing god bless them. It's not that easy to DI. NJ is a read. It's a big read and if they get it, bison evaporates and is in seriously big trouble without a DP.
@LFC_00
@LFC_00 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t punk already win a tourney with bison?
@dgw4049
@dgw4049 4 ай бұрын
Bison so broken… he finally got me off of Gief
@kei7540
@kei7540 4 ай бұрын
I really dont see how bison is a crazy anti meta character like everyoneis saying. Could be that hes not my type of character or im not abusing the cheap stuff enough. interested to see where he'll fall a few months from now
@fordy5788
@fordy5788 4 ай бұрын
Bison is anti meta for real
@BIGGIEDEVIL
@BIGGIEDEVIL 4 ай бұрын
From Ken main to Bison, ima enjoy him till he's nerfed to death
@theblackboxpodcastshow1791
@theblackboxpodcastshow1791 4 ай бұрын
No Bison isn’t easy to play, unless you’ve played him before on SF 5 or before, you spacing / footsies must be practiced, get in plenty of casual matches, and mix
@xcarter1893
@xcarter1893 4 ай бұрын
They gave bison DJs damage
@R4V3NU5
@R4V3NU5 4 ай бұрын
M is for Mighty 😄
@YungBl3ss94
@YungBl3ss94 4 ай бұрын
I think bisons auto combos need to be fixed on block. You stop pressing buttons but have a whole animation continue leaves you open to be punished everyone else can get free hits off you
@granzlewi
@granzlewi 4 ай бұрын
I've never dropped a character so fast in my life. Bison is just playing super sf6 at the moment.
@bazzjedimaster
@bazzjedimaster 4 ай бұрын
A real weakness is that knee press always lose to DI unless you cancel into super, so if the opponent knows you can't just skip neutral with it.
@xravia79
@xravia79 4 ай бұрын
The only people I see crying are Bison mains lol
@waterdog737
@waterdog737 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for broken Terry and Mai
@strumbox87
@strumbox87 4 ай бұрын
ROFL 🤣
@alejandroacero6690
@alejandroacero6690 4 ай бұрын
I think that it's too soon to tell he is broken
@brandonrice1124
@brandonrice1124 4 ай бұрын
Ken is still the most op character in this game i don't care what anyone says its true bison is just a blimp on the radar compared to ken.
@SolonarTM
@SolonarTM 4 ай бұрын
not even anti meta I play master Jamie and bisons just overpowered. You gotta be dense to think -3 in throw range after scissors which is no longer a charge move is acceptable. It’s braindead neutral like jinrai x100
@purefire21
@purefire21 4 ай бұрын
Bison is the new Turtle! I’m having so many timeouts against him
@kenshin391
@kenshin391 4 ай бұрын
He’s strong but he has weakness that are easy to exploit. I’m glad he’s strong though he’s always been my main. I’m glad to see him back and stronger.
@metalgear475
@metalgear475 4 ай бұрын
Knee Press should be illegal, what was Capcom thinking.
@MS-ql8ek
@MS-ql8ek 4 ай бұрын
They make him strong so everyone can buy the season 2 pack then they will nerf him, typical money grab
@natemakesbeats2138
@natemakesbeats2138 4 ай бұрын
So then why didn’t this happen with akuma or ed ?
@kye4216
@kye4216 4 ай бұрын
He’s not as strong as Akuma
@conservativesaiyan
@conservativesaiyan 4 ай бұрын
I don't think he's strong. While his pokes and fundamentals are what a skillful character should be, is not enough. In fact, the fact that Psycho Crusher can go through fireballs is not an accident. Is needed. He also needs Drive Gauge to maximize output. In contrast to the cast, the shotos, tops, and other sound, but strong characters, Bison lacks. They have better output damage by simply doing normals, and with the Drive Gauge being a necessary resource, they have better damage output. I think the pros will figure out Bison quickly. In my opinion. He's awesome and fun tho -- and super unique.
@GetThatWorkout
@GetThatWorkout 4 ай бұрын
They just need to add more so he can have more combo Paterns I see possible one’s bison has potential bison is balanced right now he’s the boss he should be getting buffs for combo opportunities more than anything come on the people complaining about him being too powerful should step they game up they need there game to get a buff
@ouranos0101
@ouranos0101 4 ай бұрын
Why are you feeding the gremlins?
@ssgcheddar5785
@ssgcheddar5785 4 ай бұрын
I just hope they don't destroy him with nerfs 😂
@Freddie2916
@Freddie2916 4 ай бұрын
I love this version of Bison, but he will get nerfed eventually make no mistake about that
@kei7540
@kei7540 4 ай бұрын
Only thing they'll touch is probably knee press everything else is whatever
@cuz30001
@cuz30001 4 ай бұрын
Your tears are delicious 😂
@TriFF51
@TriFF51 4 ай бұрын
What tears, he's a Bison main lol
@xravia79
@xravia79 4 ай бұрын
You Bison mains are pretty sensitive huh?
@c_bass1971
@c_bass1971 4 ай бұрын
Is this how pay to win works in fighting games?
@Longlostpuss
@Longlostpuss 4 ай бұрын
Can't he teleport anymore? That's a pretty big ability he seems to have lost imo and could have helped out with the no invincible reversal thing.
@kei7540
@kei7540 4 ай бұрын
They gave telporting to jp
@kye4216
@kye4216 4 ай бұрын
He has terrible defensive options so hes not going to be top 3.
@sf6288
@sf6288 4 ай бұрын
Bison cheap
@phaze12490
@phaze12490 4 ай бұрын
Pay 2 win
@SilverWolf04
@SilverWolf04 4 ай бұрын
I told myself to leave SF6 alone, but after they put my main man Bison in it's hard to resist. I hate the art style of this game and all the new characters.
@bigbadvicHo
@bigbadvicHo 4 ай бұрын
He’s good just the way he is. Buff him if anything
@RiskyBusiness144
@RiskyBusiness144 4 ай бұрын
Not so sure bison beats a skilled cammy
@facts-never-lies3160
@facts-never-lies3160 4 ай бұрын
Bison is not op but great
@iiRiDeZ_TTV
@iiRiDeZ_TTV 4 ай бұрын
I usually agree with most of your vids, but this has ALWAYS been Bison. I feel like once hes labbed people will be ok. ALSO note there are MANY people who already know how to play Bison.
@kei7540
@kei7540 4 ай бұрын
I agree I feel people are kinda overrating him right now
@badtzkoala8345
@badtzkoala8345 4 ай бұрын
110 view in 12 minutes? Bro fell off Much love jk
@JoeG2324
@JoeG2324 4 ай бұрын
def not top tier, has no defense and weaknesses. SF5 was 10x stronger
@purefire21
@purefire21 4 ай бұрын
his defense is his quick jab! regardless of fame data his just is faster than everyone outside of Akuma
@Benjilabu
@Benjilabu 4 ай бұрын
​@@purefire21it comes out in 5f though?
@checkmate8849
@checkmate8849 4 ай бұрын
When akuma got relased he was top 1. Now its bison. Then it will be terry. Ken is the worst shoto. Luke is trash and then the scene just wont change. Just yapping
@OmnipotentO
@OmnipotentO 4 ай бұрын
SF6 is pay to win now 😭
@waterdog737
@waterdog737 4 ай бұрын
Powercreep Yes Pay2Win, IDK. We're see how the of the season pans out. Suggestion, best to avoid zoners and zoning like playstyles for the time being
@kei7540
@kei7540 4 ай бұрын
It's not Bison isn't gonna magically make.you legend ranked
@OmnipotentO
@OmnipotentO 4 ай бұрын
i'm somewhat kidding. I think he's good. not sure he's S tier. I need a pro to win something with him first.
@jayfly1090
@jayfly1090 4 ай бұрын
Stop crying
@AllFlashNoDash
@AllFlashNoDash 4 ай бұрын
You guys are exaggerating. The game is a year old, and everyone is used to the mechanics. It'll be easier and easier to get characters to Master. It took me 2½ - 3 months to get Ryu to Master. 3 weeks with Luke. 1 day with Lord Bipson. All I did was lab for about an hour. Found 2 bread and butters, bnb into super, and meter dump into super. People play timid against a new character due to unfamiliarity. Is he good? Yes. Not even top 5. May be right at 10. He has trouble with characters who stick to you with pressure due to no gtf off me move (invincible reversal).
@webadagrande
@webadagrande 4 ай бұрын
oh yeha let me belive a random mf that got master on the most ez game to get master vs all the pros that say hes overtuned and top 5
@AllFlashNoDash
@AllFlashNoDash 4 ай бұрын
@webadagrande believe what you want. I don't care. Doesn't make my opinion any more or less. People put too much stock in "pros" and titles. I've beaten some of your pros. It's just a game. 😆😆😆
@fayelis
@fayelis 4 ай бұрын
Getting master is brain dead in sf6. MR is what really matters
@webadagrande
@webadagrande 4 ай бұрын
@@AllFlashNoDash anyone can beat any pro on a random online match go and beat them on a important tournament with something on the line then fucking sf6 made all thsi god dam nrandom people think they can talk cause they hit master on the most brain dead rank system ever made where even if u have 41% win rate u get to master random ass guy
@AllFlashNoDash
@AllFlashNoDash 4 ай бұрын
@fayelis just curious...are you a Master?
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