Street Fighter Zero 3 (Sega Saturn vs PlayStation) Gameplay Comparison

Side by Side Comparison with Dual Longplay of Street Fighter Alpha 3 Game for Sega Saturn and PS1 (PlayStation) on Real Hardware with BlueRetro.

[@the-keep]

The Sega Saturn was a grossly underestimated console. That Saturn control pad though. 🔥🔥🔥

[@egg64]

Definitely a great showing by both versions, particularly PS1 finding a way to overcome its 2D discrepancies. But with the 1MB/4MB added RAM, the king of 32-bit 2D will always be Saturn.

[@DragonSlayerKyo]

a lot of the smaller stuff like hit sparks are 3D effects in the PS 1 port. you can notice it if you look closely.

[@egg64]

@@DragonSlayerKyo yeah, and its a genius move by the developers to get around the 2D weaknesses of the PS1

[@DragonSlayerKyo]

@@egg64 Definitely was. It left more room for 2D frames (even if there was still a number of cuts made, mainly to larger characters like Zangief- but that's expected)

[@ajsingh4545]

Yeah if you look closely... Most people won't give a sh__ ​@@DragonSlayerKyo

[@OtomoTenzi]

@@ajsingh4545...SHIT or a FUCK??? 😁

[@Giraux]

It’s amazing how the intros featuring character rivalry and lore directly complement each other. The Saturn shows an image of Dan while the PSX shows Sagat, Cody appears in the Saturn at the same time that Guy’s image is shown on the PSX, Juni on Saturn while Cammy on PSX, etc. I might be looking too much into this, and it might be coincidental, but if intentionally planned, that is a great amount of detail from the teams involved with handling each of these ports. Great vid as always VG ✊🔥💯

[@SegaFanatic5188]

There's different variations of the intro that will play. Let the game just run and it will cycle through different ones each time. The same intro on the PS1 version happens on Saturn as well if you let the attract mode play. The only difference is the silhouettes on Saturn you can see through to another background layer while on PS1 they're a solid color. This comparison didn't compare synchronized captures from boot up is my guess.

[@brichan1851]

The SEGA Saturn was such an under appreciated system. I miss mine so much.

[@MrZillas]

I still have mine. Love it.

[@brichan1851]

@@MrZillas I wish I had mine, and my Dreamcast. I used to sell my stuff because I was stupid and a complete moron. Then, I learned to keep what I have. I NEVER trade anything in, anymore. It just turns out that I wised up a little late. The last thing I sold was my PS2, GameCube, and “OG” Xbox. Twenty years ago. I don’t sell anything now. Still have my 360, PS3… I even have 2 Virtual Boys. I keep everything now.

[@JohnCharb87]

‼Watched the video again. The sound on the Saturn version is incredible. Especially during the Ryu fight. Also the Saturn version of the stage looked awesome. That wavy skull in the clouds was really cool.

[@unvatoxd3384]

They could've used the 3d rendering for the line scrolling effect

[@westonh4900]

How did you use the Sega font?

[@sf2tsf2t]

The PS version of the skull is in lightning

[@n64fan60]

@@westonh4900 I also am wondering this!

[@MadsonOnTheWeb]

Amazing PS1 effort! I still prefer how it looks on Saturn though

[@PRCREA]

I seriously miss when Street Fighter was Street Fighter, with real illustration styles.

[@Ace_of_DiscaL]

This is EXACTLY why I still only truly love 2D Street Fighter 👾

[@HollowRick]

Same I can't stand the new 3D art style it looks so ugly in comparison

[@DragonSlayerKyo]

The 3D models are directly based off of how capcom did the sprite art. while it may not look as great as the original sprites, the intention is that it still allows a player to easily gauge weather an attack will connect or not.

[@MrSez1979]

Check out either the MUGEN or IKEMEN GO engines for the PC my brother... Let's just say I play a new custom game on these programs almost every day, but I have only played SF 6 TWICE since I purchased it...

[@ImaginariumKidStories]

Yep exactly, street fighter 6 is garbage

[@JohnCharb87]

I can already see that the Saturn controller is much better for directional inputs. There is something I've always had a problem with the Playstation controller segmented d-pad. Trying to do quarter circle or half circle inputs felt off putting.

[@drunkensailor112]

The playstation controller to this day has a horrible d-pad. Ps5 as well

[@MoonOvIce]

@@drunkensailor112 It's still better than the dpad in most Xbox controllers save for probably the Series S/X controller.

[@Theprimaryfocus]

I'm the complete opposite. If the dpad isn't segmented then it doesn't work for me as well

[@omegaweapon116]

​@@TheprimaryfocusYea. For me, PS2 and PS4 D-pads are perfect

[@jasonlee7816]

@@MoonOvIcePS1, PS2, PS3, PSP, PS Vita controller all seem to have the same awful, crap, dreadful, garbage, horrible, rubbish, shit, terrible d-pad

[@MKF30]

The details look better on PS here like the rain effects but the giant skull face in the sky in the Saturn version is pretty badass and cool.

[@Retrorevelations]

The Saturn was developed more with 2D in mind, than the PS1 was. So it (mostly) did 2D gaming, and 2D arcade ports, much better. But, naturally, the PS1 could ultimately do better 3D.

[@howieg2019]

i still got the ps1🎮 and dreamcast🎮 versions of this, got too much love to part ways with.

[@paulocelsosantanna]

Simply, the Saturn superior, no Loading.

[@anglo-saxonconnor817]

Without the tag feature in the versus series both versions of this game run well on both systems.

[@shinhiryozenchikiza6540]

Excelente video 👍😃

[@BlueMageWithSoulEdge]

This was really cool. Did you use a tool to get the same enemies? I think Karin is Sakura's first opponent regardless, but for the others, unless there was manipulation or some VERY strong coincidence.

[@kincaramelo9120]

Voy mae great videos.Greetings from Spain

[@Levi-hu1dm]

Boa comparaçao. Faz a comparaçao do 3wonders ps1 vs saturn. 👍

[@renatogois5966]

O trabalho feito no PlayStation e muito bom porém a versão do sega Saturn e suprema mostrando todo o poder do sega Saturn valeu.

[@Neo_Shadow_X]

Hmmm....I always wanted to play the Saturn version. The PSX version got me just because of the Artwork in the loading screens.(I'm an Artwork freak)

[@bloomerb4162]

My eyes are drawn towards the left screen. I'm not sure, but it seems to be slightly more fluid in animation.

[@lazarushernandez5827]

Saturn version wins here, although you have a great version on the PSX/PS1 as well. The Saturn version in general loads quicker, has an in depth character cut screen, some backgrounds have more detail (Dhalsim's stage has more string ribbons in the background)... just the advantage of having more ram. About the wider aspect of the Saturn version, back then the TVs we played these consoles on typically allowed you stretch the image vertically or horizontally, I wouldn't judge either version too harshly here. I thought VCD was going to unleash a level 3 super on Bison/Vega on the Saturn playthrough...😁😁

[@jeremybstudentpilot5315]

Great observation! Also in the Sega version on the dalshim stage, you see a dog behind the wife!

[@MattHalpain]

These are a definite upgrade from Genesis and SNES

[@Jadson8711]

Sega Saturn, sem dúvidas. Sega Saturn é especialista em jogos 2D. PlayStation não tinha memória suficiente pra rodar os jogos com todos os frames necessários, já o Sega Saturn, devido a expansão de memória, roda tudo liso.

[@Douglas-nh5ss]

Mesmo sem o uso de cartucho de expansão o saturno dava aula em jogos em 2d

[@cristianramallo8042]

saturn nunca defrauda en estos ports, pero se nota la inversión y el empeño que ponían en ps1, siempre compensaban con algún modo extra además

[@hirschlord341]

I like that you stop sometimes the screen if other is loading . But i think its better to show if the one is allready ready while other still loading . Just wait in the next screen ? 😋

[@OtomoTenzi]

OK, remember back then when the first early models of the PS1 all had like a parallel I/O port on the back of them? Those back ports allowed the use of some unofficial 3rd-party add-on devices; such as Game Shark and Pro Action Replay. While they were primarily used as cheat devices, many of them also facilitated the use of pirated backup copies of games. Obviously $ONY was well-aware (and NOT pleased) of the whole pirating scene, and ultimately the parallel I/O port was removed from newer models of the PS1. In my opinion, if $ONY had actually allowed and licensed it, those add-on cheat devices also could've doubled/tripled/quadrupled their purpose as a cheat device, import game enabler, extra memory blocks for game saves, and possibly even a 4Mb RAM expansion cart similar to the popular 4-in-1 cart that's been widely available for Saturn. I would've been happily willing to pay at least $60 for an ALL-IN-ONE device like that. While Capcom has done a commendable job, of making only the very necessary cuts and keeping the loadtimes down to as short as possible on the PS1 version of SFA3; I think we would all agree that an additional 4Mb of RAM (what the PS1 really desperately needs) really could've done WONDERS for SFA3 and MANY other Capcom or SNK fighting games! Talk about some MISSED OPPORTUNITIES here, motherfuckers!

[@Fabiopinheiro82]

Although Saturn had better 2D capabilities at the time, the fact is the industry was moving to 3D and thus everyone preferred the PS1 versions of the 2D games because it was cheaper and the PS1 was a fast selling home console.

[@user-qn5pt5mt9r]

T. Hawk has an unique backwalk animation in Saturn (and Alpha Anthology, but not MAX) version. In contrast, I'm not sure if Karin's new stage in the PS1 version exists in the SAT version too.

[@ostroom]

Saturn for 2D was a beasty! Sadly it died quickly... i miss Sega, had great hardwares in consoles and arcades at that time.

[@kwizzeh]

Saturn version with the added RAM cart takes the cake IMO. Due to the fact it pretty much makes it arcade accurate by enabling access to all the frames. Sound wise they seem very equal and the screen resolution is whatever you fancy. But if you are looking for very accurate arcade experience, it would be the Saturn with RAM cart.

[@weirddudehi]

On this Kind of games,for me always Saturn.

[@AIexanderthefake]

I like that controller, but... Still wanting the trombone buttons on the fingers lol

[@RazialKain]

عمل متقن شكرا

[@almeidachannel7121]

Nice Video ! Sub & Big Like ! And Love Retro Street Fighter Games !

[@Giraux]

The vivid colors, arcade accurate animation frames and intros, minimal loading…Saturn for the win, no contest. The loading illustrations, PocketStation support, and other modes made the PSX fun and charming in different ways. Great ports.

[@nickbond6447]

@vcdecide the Saturn is using the RAM cart here?

[@burnermanx]

SFZ3 only runs with 4mb ram cart.

[@hoifungso4433]

PS1 ver. CAPCOM found in another game "GUNDAM BATTLE MASTER", they used the 3D POLYGON TEXTURES COMPRESSION to made a lot of 2D animation frames inside PS1 little internal memory. So they changed this method to made Alpha3.

[@maxwellr5251]

Apesar da limitação, a caveira na ultima luta da mais medo na versão de PS1

[@protox4418]

A caveira é da versão do Saturn.

[@HollowRick]

​@@protox4418was gonna comment this

[@maxwellr5251]

@@protox4418 a caveira piscando não

[@jorgealessander109]

Saturn é praticamente sem loads, e tem melhores cores. Acho que as animações são levemente melhores que o PS1, mas ele tmb ta legal. Jogava no PS1, esses loads entre cada partida eram saco. Até os loads do SF Alpha2 do Snes eram menos irritantes, pq era um sistema mais fraquinho mesmo. Mas deixar os loads, no momento em que a partida vai começar, tmb é de doer!

[@Douglas-nh5ss]

Todas as animações do arcade estão no saturno e muitas foram cortadas no Playstation então foi só impressão mesmo

[@cavaleiro4163]

E também o D-Pad circular (direcional), com 6 botões e mais dois, com uma máquina que praticamente tornava semelhante ao arcade... Rapaz, Sega Saturn foi injustiçado na época. Triste, mas fazer o que... Imagina se viesse o Street Fighter 3 no Sega Saturn?

[@lavosier2]

aonde eu moro uma video locadora comprou um Sega saturn, fez dois controles arcades e o pessoal passava o dia jogando kof 97, 98, street figther zero , marvel vs capcom. Cara a hora era caro e mesmo assim vivia cheio. O Sega saturn sempre foi melhor para jogos de luta.

[@ricardonunes838]

@@lavosier2 melhor entre aspas pq tem vários títulos q não saíram pra ele, como capcom vs snk e the king 98 só a título de exemplo, então por isso eu prefiro o ps1!!!

[@Charvo75]

6 button pad on the Saturn made it better for SF games

[@MayconItice]

Nesta época eu joguei muito este game no PSX e não conheci a versão de saturn, afinal o Saturn era um console difícil de se ver na região onde eu morava mas olhando este comparativo a versão de Saturn tem algumas diferenças sutis elogiáveis como o load mais rápido e efeitos mais parecido ao arcade, eu joguei muito este game na versão arcade usando emulador porém ambos os ports são muito bem feitos levando em consideração a deficiencia do PSX de rodar games de luta muito mau e tinha me decepcionado muito com o Marvel vs street fighter com muitas coisas cortadas em relação ao arcade por causa da deficiencia de memória RAM do PSX e fiquei sabendo que o Saturn tinha o cartucho de expansão de RAM que o fazia reinar nos games de luta na época com ports mais aproximados ao arcade, um belo diferencial para a galera dos games de pancadaria porém esta do PSX eu sempre considerei a melhor conversão do arcade de PSX parecendo até um milagre que a capcom fez me lembrando da competente versão do SFA2 do SNES que eu considerava um milagre também em um console cheio de limitações técnicas que não foi feito pra rodar tal game cheio de animações e sprites maiores, engenhosidade top da época.

[@edcarlosx1936]

Excelente comentário

[@lucianoclaudio2335]

Hold on, is that an actual Sega Saturn controller with an analog!!!??? If that was real, I need one

[@kayanel7982]

I love both

[@OtomoTenzi]

Then please keep the console wars ALIVE!!!

[@daysgone3950]

I prefer the more dynamic 3D hit sparks of PS1 even as a Sega fan back then.

[@Juan_Pablo_81]

These binaural audios always remind me of arcades, those delicious noises haha

[@strikefirst3404]

2D fighting games? Saturn always and always! 💥. Anyone of them

[@Ace_of_DiscaL]

03:50 it's head-2-head. Saturn seems little more zoomed in. PlayStation is solid too though, but Saturn wins!

[@jsr734]

352x240 on Saturn vs 384x224 on Play Station.

[@Ace_of_DiscaL]

@@jsr734 True. Ports usually crop & resize in respect to the Arcade versions, however in this case, bigger sprites are always welcome in my book!

[@michaels9917]

Saturn always had near perfect ports of cps2 arcade games. The playstation version looks pretty good, though. There does seem to be some slight reductions to the playstation character animations and backgrounds

[@Gddaeae]

It is not a decrease in size, but a result of the difference in resolution between the two models. Saturn was a bit lacking in the resolution of the arcade, so the size of the character looked relatively large. This is what happens in all cps2 games.

[@mich722]

@@Gddaeae The change in aspect ratio squashes the characters slightly.

[@KaiSoDaM]

Never had the chance to play a Saturn game. Even emulators are not very well developed..

[@voltasrevoltas5447]

Sega Saturno top aproximadissimo do arcade ❤🎉

[@1hellgames]

melhor pq tem personagens que o arcade nao tem

[@thehumbleone1983]

Saturn Street Fighter 👍🕹

[@mattschmerbeck8375]

I think the PS1 has a slight edge here. It seems sharper.. Also, the annoying dithered waffle pattern where transparencie should be is pretty obvious here, but that's a problem on every Saturn game.

[@AndresDabreau]

is it me or the colors washed out on the ps1. Sega saturn is so vibrant in color and saturation

[@jsr734]

The colors should be the same (the same rgb values), but the Saturn has a darker gamma ramp that makes colors to look more saturated. It seems most people prefer them, but i think is not accurate to how the colors look in the original arcade game.

[@sanderjuniordossantossande8441]

sega saturn e playstation jogão 😎

[@CurtindoAqueleDrama]

Os efeitos de acerto no PS1 feitos com polígonos e luzes foi uma decisão acertada. Ficou bonito e ainda economizou memória para ter mais sprites para os personagens. A mesma coisa foi usada no Jojo q tbm ficou legal no PS1. Queria muito que lançassem um Alpha 3 Max remasterizado com a opção de ativar os polígonos nos golpes.

[@giovannimarcelodasilva768]

Essa foi a melhor conversão que a Capcom fez para o PSX, ficou muito acima da média se comparado aos Kofs os Samurai Shodown da SNK, onde as quedas de animações eram notáveis

[@nyarlathotep2265]

Noooooooooooooo.

[@CurtindoAqueleDrama]

@@giovannimarcelodasilva768 sim. Eles dominaram o hardware do PS1 e tiraram leite de pedra.

[@mickeymighty1866]

What are you saying I can’t understand you

[@jasonlee7816]

if Capcom finds or learns everything they need to know about the PlayStation 1 hardware they as a game developer can unlock it to its full potential

[@rodrigoc.teixeira5242]

Olha eu gostei mais da versão do Saturn. Até mesmo porque tem um FPS um pouquinho melhor... Mais algumas coisas do PS1 são melhores, como por exemplo as barras de vida no PS1 tem mesclado de cores, enquanto a do Saturn é toda amarela. Mais fico com Saturn nessa.

[@capitaofelino9245]

Barra de vida com mesclado de cores kkkkkk desculpa cara mas isso não mostra em nada ser melhor em nada em relação a versão do Saturn ,apenas uma escolha estetica coisa que se quisessem ter colocado na versão Saturn teriam colocado ,a versão do Saturn é tecnicamente muito superior a do psx,que tem seus méritos,,ao que parece tem uns extras como novos modos , realmente não me lembro,

[@lisakim3948]

Where can I get the sega saturn controller on the left side?

[@chrissmith8216]

I did not know that alpha 3 was on the sega saturn!

[@AP101083]

One of the last games released in the end of 1999 for the Saturn. The last game was in begin 2000 Final Fight Revenge by Capcom.

[@sexshit1107]

that ps1 is a seriously good port.The saturn version is king though.For some strange reason Ive always pregerred alpha 2 over 3.

[@VOAN]

Alpha 2 is the better game to me despite having less characters in the roster. In Alpha 3 Capcom separate the Custom Combo from the Super Combo and turn those into separate ism whereas in Alpha 2 you could do one or the other at anytime as long as you had a level charge. Also Alpha 2 you could throw opponent normally whereas in Alpha 3 you are required to simultaneously press two buttons to do so. Alpha 3 also change how you perform Alpha Counter, instead of a smooth motion, you just tap instead which feels awkward. The Custom Combo system in Alpha 3 is also tweak terribly, instead of pushing your character to connect hits once the shadow charge begins, in Alpha 3 the Custom Combo doesn't charge you forward but once activated you are to connect hits manually instead which makes it feel awkward and wasted.

[@residentevil094]

@@VOAN also in alpha 2 it feel closer to sf2 with the music etc

[@punkbianoretrogamer4314]

SEGA......SEM DÚVIDAS🖤

[@Shinobi33]

The Saturn wins, but Capcom did a hell of a job with the PS1 port.

[@gamexentralx]

Amazing! They're both the same. How did they do that? I'm guessing it was done by the same developers but I could be wrong.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Really the only time a game pulls that far ahead on the Saturn its because the PS1 version was developed by someone else and/or the Saturn version makes extensive use of a RAM cartridge. Which according to Sega fanboys is cheating.(You'll hear this any time a SNES game uses a helper chip inside the cart)

[@hassanansari9836]

❤

[@user-cs9fc9ws3j]

Segata Sanshirooooooooo!!

[@humbertoserra6251]

Apesar de ter jogado a versão do PS1 primeiro eu fico com a versão do Saturn por ser mais fiel a versão de arcade e não ter praticamente loadings antes e depois das lutas!

[@RSaga-yg8ze]

Concordo. Mas ainda acho que a versão do PSP de SFA3 É a melhor por causa dos personagens extras e também de alguns efeitos de som adicionais nos golpes que ficaram muito bons. A versão do Dreamcast também era ótima.

[@Tofuu4811]

the transparency on the psx is spot on, unlike the dithering mess on the saturn version. i feel the color on the saturn version is more rich, but the loading time killed it for me for the psx.

[@AkaAka-wc6or]

Seeeegaaaaa!!!

[@Kaiman76]

Parallax is missing in many stage on the PSX version. Birdie Dhalsim, and Balrog stage for example.

[@tonyganem5196]

Well noticed

[@alexescobarcustodio4292]

Saturn com certeza recebeu muito mais atenção dos desenvolvedores no port, poderia fazer uma comparação com o arcade pra ver qual se aproxima mais, mas na minha umilde opinião o Saturn vence

[@flaviodossantos9723]

Acho que era porque o foco do Saturn era jogos como esse e não os 3D...

[@pires7spc]

Mesmo se a versão do Playstation 1 tivesse recebido toda atenção do mundo não iria se comparar com a versão do Sega Saturn.

[@alexescobarcustodio4292]

@@pires7spc verdade, o Saturn com os 2 processadores era muito superior, por curiosidade pesquisei no KZbin a versão do arcade e a do Saturn é fiel ao Arcade

[@ev1lauronbr]

Without the ram expansion PS1 never had a chance with 2d fighters, I played a lot of SFA3 on PS1 though, really love that version, I never even saw the saturn version until youtube, trully amazing, better yet played with 6 facing buttons, but this time around I didn't feel terrible for that because Capcom had the geniuous ideia that I no longer need to press three punch or kick to do a lvl3 special move.

[@user-kg6gn1vx1j]

PSの方が画質が悪い、攻撃を当てた時のヒットマークがショボい、ロードが遅い。対戦前特殊演出が所々カットされてる。オリコンの仕様が違ってアーケードで出来たオリコンが出来ない物多数。パットもサターンの方が格ゲー向き。サターンだと最初からドラマチックバトルやファイナルバトルが解禁されてる。 サターンのちょっとした難点は拡張RAMカートリッジを刺す必要があってパワーメモリーと併用出来ないので、ワールドツアーで育てたキャラを持って行って友達と対戦したりが出来ない事かな。

[@peterjohannpetermann]

Jogo até hoje no meu Saturno e PS1 mais a versão do Saturno sai na frente, muito semelhante ao Arcade!

[@scph0055]

Bom comentário, sensato e sem ismo. Esses vídeo de comparação são legais para vermos as diferenças e não para ficarmos brigando como crianças. Eu também gosto da versão do PS1, mas a do Saturn realmente ficou mais próxima da arcade. Não é o caso do vídeo, mas de PS2 e Dreamcast também são muito boas.

[@williams4379]

O que eu gosto na versão de Street Fighter Alpha 3 do Saturn e da versão de PSP é a possibilidade de você lutar contra dois oponentes ao mesmo tempo em todos os Stages e ainda varia os cenários. E especificamente no Saturno a energia dos oponentes demoram mais a acabar então é mais desafiador. No Dreamcast e PlayStation 2 não da pra jogar no modo Arcade contra duas cpus passando por todos lutadores até o final, o modo é curto e tem pouca variação de cenários. No PS1 fica limitado a poucos rounds sem mudar de cenários só cores do mesmo cenário e você não luta contra dois oponentes porque fica a máquina lutando na sua equipe pra ajudar. Joguei demais a versão do PS1 é muito boa também, só não tem os extras nas lutas que há no PSP e Sega Saturn.

[@patrickbateman00]

The cross style pad on the PSX is just awful for fighting games.

[@VOAN]

You failed to realize that not every fighting games required 6 buttons. Tekken only use 4 buttons, Virtua Fighter only use 3, DOA only use 3, Mortal Kombat only used 5 (in some occasion it use 6 but 4 of those were attack buttons), basically all of SNK fighting games used only 4 since they are based on the NeoGeo games and NeoGeo controllers and cabinets only had 4 buttons. As for Capcom, Street Fighter use 6, Darkstalkers use 6, Marvel vs. Capcom use 6 at first but reduced to just 4 later on, Super Smash Bros. only use 4, BlazBlue and Guilty Gear only use 4 and 5, Power Rangers only use 2 on Genesis and 4 on Super NES. When you think about it less fighting games use 6 buttons therefore the PS1 diamond layout is perfectly fine for fighting games. In Tekken each of the 4 buttons were assign to each four limbs of every fighter, that makes it more unique than Capcom's 3 strength rule of punches and kicks.

[@patrickbateman00]

@@VOAN Ever heard of a space bar?

[@coolranch_dorites]

I think the only thing the PS1 version has over Saturn was that the sound effects sound much less compressed, plus the Saturn version is super rare and Japan only. Otherwise, Saturn is nearly arcade perfect, while the PS1 had to cut a few corners, but it still turned out alright. Jury's out on how the Dreamcast version compares, though the DC controller is absolute dogwater for six button fighters such as this.

[@drunkensailor112]

The saturn version is not rare. Only expensive

[@TheSeventhForce]

IIRC, the DC version has some issues that put it behind the Saturn version; The sprites are weirdly stretched for some reason and there's actually a bit of input lag intentionally baked into the DC version out of consideration for the online play in the Japanese release. Not bad or unplayable by any means, just disappointing compared to MvC1's mostly stellar port. (Said input lag was for whatever reason carried over into the NAOMI release of Alpha 3 Upper, which uses the DC port as a base; It's one of many reasons why only the original vanilla Arcade release of Alpha 3 is played competitively.)

[@VOAN]

It's not rare, the Saturn version is just limited and didn't sell well in its initial release thus why the reselling value is so high.

[@VOAN]

@@TheSeventhForce I believed it was the NAOMI version that had input lags which carry over to the Dreamcast version. Even though the NAOMI version didn't get released commercially until 2001, Capcom did developed it first in 1998 as a beta build before porting it to Dreamcast in 1999. Reason for the input lags were because of the NAOMI version requirement of CHD media in their cabinet. Using CHD media, it give the game much better audios and more voice samples but doing so also cause the game to hiccups at time which cause those small input lags. These then became native in the Dreamcast port. Luckily these were eliminated in the GBA and PSP versions.

[@TheSeventhForce]

@@VOAN Ah, thanks for the detailed explanation, that makes way more sense!

[@SomeOrangeCat]

The PS1 version had two things going for it, at the time of it's release: 1.) It came out a year earlier than the Saturn port. 2.) It was available world-wide, meaning you didn't have to deal with cost prohibitive import fees. Edit: Though I have noticed, that "cost prohibitive" only seems to matter when its Sega's challenger that costs extra. 😏

[@Ryuujin1078]

…I was able to buy the Saturn import from a local import store or some electronics boutiques sold import games at the time. I’d much prefer close to arcade experience without load times on Saturn

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@Ryuujin1078 At that point you might as well buy the Dreamcast version, which came out that same year.

[@lazarushernandez5827]

@@SomeOrangeCat Some people like the Saturn version as it had some different modes the Dreamcast port didn't. Also the Saturn controller was a better layout for Street Fighter style games. I had the Dreamcast version of Street Fighter Alpha 3.

[@WeskerSega]

1) The release difference was seven months, not one year. And that's taking into account the Japanese releases only. The North American and European PS1 releases were just a couple of months ahead the Japanese Sega Saturn release. 2) That's totally revelant for the quality difference between both versions, especially nowadays when that's no longer an issue for anyone outside Japan. Are you also assuming that everyone who reads your comment is a non-Japanese user?

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@WeskerSega At the time of release, both things I stated mattered a lot. I don't converse with Sega-branded boot lickers. So into the void you go.

[@pepitoelp]

Aparte de que la versión de Saturn es superior a la de Psx, otra gran diferencia es el mando, el 6 botones de Saturn es una delicia para este tipo de juegos

[@freddykruger1118]

Owning an arcade port of a game on any console I consider a win

[@mikrod9157]

Sega saturn was where I first played resident evil loved the system just really hard to find games for it sold it got a 64 couldn’t afford the games returned it and got a ps1 as much as I am a Nintendo fan ps1 won me over was never a big fan of the n64 controller and even then most games looked better on Saturn or ps1 , just have always disliked the d pad from Sony felt like using arrows on a keyboard till this day 😂

[@Shinobi33]

Wait a minute I thought Fei Long was only in Upper and Max for the PSP?

[@zabustifu]

The Street_Fighter_Alpha_3 wikipedia page has a nice table that shows which character is available in which version of the game. Basically, Fei Long is only missing from the arcade SFA3.

[@Dariel9858]

Não joguei e não conheci a versão do Sega Saturn, mas dizem ser a mais fial ao arcade, joguei muito a versão do Playstation...que acho que ganha em uns detalhes, mas perde na maioria das coisas.

[@soulswordstrike]

Saturn, better controller for fighting and the ram cart. Also, where did you get those input viewer skins 👀they look nice.

[@sf2tsf2t]

For those who say that having 6 buttons on an SS controller is better, I would like to say that the pad is different from the arcade joystick. Using one thumb and five fingers for six buttons is completely different.

[@fabiojuniooliveira6862]

Loadings ultra rápidos no Saturn, porém correto aspect ratio no Playstation

[@guitardosongs]

*SATURN WINS! FATALITY!!!*

[@james2175]

As cores no Sega Saturn são melhores, pois não são tão saturadas. É só olhar o cenário do Gouki/Akuma pra perceber que é mais bonito no Saturn. O controle de seis botões e o cartucho de 4 MB de RAM que elimina o loading tornam essa a versão superior. Agora, o PS1 recebeu um port incrível, especialmente porque quase todos os jogos de luta 2D no PS1 perdem feio para o Sega Saturn. Marvel vs. Street é praticamente outro jogo, totalmente descaracterizado, por exemplo. Desta vez, não; a Capcom conseguiu portar o jogo para PS1 de uma maneira muitíssimo fiel. 9.8/10 pro port do PS1 e 10/10 pro Saturn.

[@sinister8739]

Praticamente não dá pra perceber que as cores estão saturadas, talvez seja seus olhos.

[@hackercdc]

Saturn gameplay without screen loading, it`s fine

[@OtomoTenzi]

...'Nuff said!

[@n64fan60]

PS1 version was actually very good. Way better than it had any right to be.

[@roldanrosario8292]

The cuts in animation are still there but, they made sure it didn’t affect the gameplay. A solid version for the PS1. In 2023 the one with fewer load times would win this one. The sprites are the same size and the colors are close to identical.

[@JuanCarlos-ne9bq]

Saturno le gana por goleada,por control ,colores y tiempos de carga...la PS1 claro perdedor.

[@ConanVictor]

lol fanboy ...and probaly a femboy, too

[@n64fan60]

@@ConanVictor I promise you that you would never dare say that to my face, you fuckin woman.

[@LeoDynasty95]

@@ConanVictor dude it's not that serious lol no one have to be a fanboy to like PS1 port of game

[@delalicanto7432]

Saturn is marvelous. Best Street Fighter Zero 3 version ever.

[@scph0055]

Eu acho a versão de CPS2 e Sega Naomi melhores.

[@kordelas2514]

Nope. The best versions are on PSP and PS2.

[@scph0055]

@@kordelas2514 A versão de PS2 é a do arcade mas, rodando em outra resolução. A versão de PSP tem o ponto negativo de ser para portatil, não acho que seja o melhor lugar para jogar jogos de luta. E a imagem fica ruim se ligar em uma tv, jogo é feito para a tela pequena do psp.

[@kordelas2514]

@@scph0055 You forgot that PS2 version has also an unlockable Upper version with all additional characters from Saturn/DC/PS1 versions and is not based on Naomi version but on CPS2 version of gameplay and visuals (mesh transparency). T.Hawk has even a backward walking animation like in Saturn version. PSP version has the same resolution as CPS2 version and on emulators it can be nicely upscaled like in other versions. Not to mention there is a hack which allows 2 players to play it on one screen. Thus they are the ultimate versions.

[@scph0055]

@@kordelas2514 Mas quando falo de arcade estou me referindo a versão cps2 ou naomi, pois naomi também é um arcade. A versão que tem mais personagens que upper da naomi é a de psp e gba (esse não é tão boa). Mas a cps2 espreme a tela para ficar na proporção de 4:3, já na psp a tela fica esticada. Então na versão de psp os personagens ficam mais largos. Quando cito as versões estou falando do jogo no console sem modificações.

[@mbf6160]

That sega Saturn mic looks hella comfy 😎🔥🤙🏾

[@AirFerno]

É indiscutível que o Saturno é muito melhor para jogos 2D, e principalmente de luta! Mas pode ser um impressão minha, já que me parece que a resolução do PS1 é levemente maior (resolução da tela, e não cores), mas como digo, me parece apenas...

[@CurtindoAqueleDrama]

Todos os jogos de luta da Capcom no Saturn perdem tela nos cantos pq a resolução do Saturn é mais quadrada. Repara na fase do Guy, mesmo com os dois jogos mostrando o canto do cenário, aos 4:47, da pra ver mais cenário no PS1. Na tela de VS. tbm, a foto do Guy mostra sua orelha no PS1, no Saturn não da pra ver. É por isso q em alguns jogos no Saturn a foto do personagem na barra de vida acaba ficando embaixo dela e não ao lado.

[@fabiojuniooliveira6862]

​@@CurtindoAqueleDramaDaí a versão PSX ter melhor aspect ratio em relação a versão do console da Sega

[@CurtindoAqueleDrama]

@@fabiojuniooliveira6862 sim. O PS1 tem uma resolução parecida com a da CPS2 quando exibida num monitor 4:3. O Saturn tem uma resolução mais quadrada, com menos linhas verticais. Quando a imagem dele é exibida numa TV 4:3, a imagem precisa ser esticada verticalmente, por isso os sprites ficam mais gordos.

[@jsr734]

A resolução Saturn para este jogo é 352x240, enquanto o PS1 usa 384x240, assim como a máquina arcade original.

[@CurtindoAqueleDrama]

@@jsr734 É que a CPS 2 (1 e 3 tbm) gera uma imagem com a proporção quase widescreen 16:9, mas quando é exibida no monitor de arcade, ela "aperta" na horizontal para ficar em 4:3. Não sei o motivo da Capcom ter feito assim, mas ela precisava desenhar todos os sprites deformados pra eles poderem aparecer normais no arcade. Se vc olhar nos spritesheets por ai vai ver que sprites redondos (tipo o Pyron em formato esférico) é meio oval. A resolução do PS1 parece com o aspecto q a CPS mostra nos monitores, mas tudo acaba sendo meio adaptado pq os sprites são originalmente deformados. Ja no Saturn, como ele tem menor resolução, ele deforma os sprites por conta propria, ficando meio gordos, mas não tanto quanto a CPS na resolução nativa.

[@brianwalker7771]

I found every home version to be a very solid experience. If having to choose between these 2 The playstation is the easy choice to recommend. The Saturn version is better however it often costs as much as 10 times as much to buy! The Dreamcast version is a great version as well and is less expensive than the Saturn version. Even the GBA version was quite decent.

[@VOAN]

GBA version was more than decent, it was almost arcade accurate and it's only 8mb. Only thing its missing are more of the character specific stages and endings otherwise it was a solid port of the NAOMI version which is 10x better than the waterdown CPS-2 version.

[@kordelas2514]

@@VOAN GBA versions is missing many things and it can be easily called demake.

[@daysgone3950]

I wish they had used 16MB so that Sakura doesn't have to borrow the voices from Ken among stuffs but fighting game is relatively niche on GBA.

[@Monhamd1000]

The Sega Saturn is visually more pleasing than the PS1 in every way.

[@miguelangelbazan8697]

Saturn ruled 2D PSX ruled 3D

[@derekbuckler9888]

According to who Miguel? You? Did you even own a Saturn? It's that kind of ignorance, and bias that I witnessed from gamers that caused the downfall of that very powerful system. Or did you forget about the Panzer Dragoon series? Or Virtua fighter 2? Or burning rangers? Or last Bronx? I was with Sony from the beginning, and I supported them despite the rabid fan base associated with Sony systems. Watching the Saturn die was a tragedy, and those very biased, and corrupt game magazine on many occasions did nothing but criticize the Saturn. Want to know what they said about alpha on the Saturn? They said the "super shadows didn't look right" care to explain that obvious lie? You know nothing kid, less than nothing as a matter of fact

[@greensun1334]

A point for the PS1 are the accurate sprites. While they have the same height in both versions, they look broader and stretched out in the Saturn version. But I don't know why, since I think both games run in 320x224 res mode (CPS2: 384x224).

[@lazarushernandez5827]

The Saturn had several low res modes: -Progressive 320x224, 320x240, 352x224, 352x240, 320x256(PAL), 352x256(PAL). -Interlaced basically doubles the vertical 320x448, 320x480, 352x448, 352x480, 320x512(PAL), 352x512(PAL). The Playstion's low res modes: -Progressive 256x224, 320x224 -Interlaced 256x448 , 320x448 The Playstation could also support vertical resolutions of 240p/480i, so the resolutions of 320x240p 320x480i are also available High res modes for both basically doubled the horizontal res above. The wider resolution modes were typically called overscan modes as eliminated black border bars. These ports would have likely kept the same vertical resolution as the CPS2, meaning 224. The Playstation's nearest low res horizontal resolution is 320, which is likely the resolution used. The Saturn's nearest low H resolution is 352. If they used 352x224, this should account for the Saturn's wider sprites/presentation. Back then it didn't really matter because the TVs could stretch the image vertically and horizontally.

[@jsr734]

The Play Station version is actually using 384x224, the same resolution as the original CPS arcade machine, while the Saturn is using 352x240, i think.

[@jsr734]

@@lazarushernandez5827 The "official" Ps1 low res progressive modes are: 256x240/224, 320x240/224, 368x240/224, 384x240/224, 512x240/224, 640x240/224. While also capable to display interlace video output with up to 448/480 interlaced scanlines with any combination of the mentioned horizontal resolutions. And of course don´t forget the PAL low res progressive modes of 256p and 288p and interlaced 512i video modes.

[@greensun1334]

@@jsr734 this could be the reason for the broad sprites and slightly cropped backgrounds in the Saturn port. But I think the vertical resolution is 224 in both versions, the same like the CPS2, It wouldn't make sense to change it.

[@jsr734]

@@greensun1334 I suspect the Saturn is drawing 240 lines because it seems to show a little more above and below the picture, or it might be just the life bars been placed slightly lower compared to Ps1.

[@CodyLee94]

I played on Dreamcast!

[@OtomoTenzi]

Okay...

[@ricardonunes838]

cara oq a capcom conseguiu fazer com o ps1 não é brincadeira não, ficou muito bom esse jogo, eu só vi q a versão do saturno não tem loading, claro q já se torna melhor por isso, mas a versão do ps1 é espetacular tb, até os quadros de animação tanto dos personagens quanto dos cenários estão iguais a do saturno, não sei q macumba q a capcom fez mas ela conseguiu, pra mim é a melhor empresa de games da história e custava 10 conto no camelô, já o saturno tinha q ter o cartucho, aí era complicado!!!

[@RSaga-yg8ze]

Concordo. Mas ainda acho que a versão do PSP de SFA3 É a melhor por causa dos personagens extras e também de alguns efeitos de som adicionais nos golpes que ficaram muito bons. A versão do Dreamcast também era ótima.

[@ricardonunes838]

@@RSaga-yg8ze com certeza, ainda mais q nem carregação tem, é a melhor versão mesmo!!

[@cmy428]

Desculpa cara. mas a versão do Saturn era infinitamente superior, inclusive melhor que a versão de Dreamcast. A versão de psx é inferior em quadro e no FPS. Não só no loadings.

[@ricardonunes838]

@@cmy428 mas a diferença é muito pouca, não é a mesma diferença de um the king of fighters 96 por exemplo, tem q usar a tecnologia pra perceber diferença nos quadros de animação dos personagens, coisa q nos outros anteriores não era preciso, era nítido a falta de quadros, quanto aos fps mais ainda, naquela época nem sabíamos oq era isso e hj só dá pra perceber usando tecnologia, no contra rolando ninguém percebe!!!

[@RSaga-yg8ze]

@@cmy428 Verdade. Essa versão SFA3 do Saturn só perde mesmo pra versão do Game Boy Advance kkk.

[@megaigor]

boa conversão para o PS1 levando em conta as limitacões do hardware

[@KaliU-ix2kf]

Saturn 🪐 Great 2D

[@MoonOvIce]

I tend to be picky on anything and had a LOT of games for more than one console at the same time just to see differences. I usually always notice if they are there. But with Capcom games, I could never tell. Not even Marvel Vs Capcom PS1 vs Dreamcast. I could just tell the sprite size (besides content/menus of course). I hace switched countless times between the arcade version on different arcade emulators, the countless PS1/2, Dreamcast/PSP/GBA ports, and nothing super obvious. There wasn't one that had major input lag, or major graphical changes, etc. But I'm not a pro player, and I can maybe see a couple. But I see people here saying "Saturn 10x better", I don't see it. I have tried it, and it's nice, but I can't tell "10x" better...🤷

[@Bloodstar6078]

Idk about 10x better... but there are a couple things. Watching the video, the biggest difference seems to be the playstation loading times. The second thing is more technical, and I'm not entirely sure how much it effects the games, but the architecture of the consoles is different. The Saturn was a 32-bit console that mostly focused on 2D. It could do some 3D, but it was optimized for 2D graphics, which is why the system is so good for 2D arcade ports, especially fighting games. PS1 on the other hand is geared towards 3D graphics, and has to use trickery to be able to do 2D graphics. Neither console is better, they are just geared toward different things. (Sorry if that's not very technical, you can find youtune video if you want a more thorough explanation. )

[@Bloodstar6078]

Also, in regards to PSP and GBA... they have less buttons, so your movelist becomes limited. PSP isn't bad, but I liked having extra shoulder buttons on playstation so i could hotkey Super Combos. Especially the impossible ones like Vega (claw) that i couldn't reliably perform if at all. You can use the select button if you give up your taunt.

[@javiiermendes]

Jejejeje on 2d the Sega Saturn it's a clear winner. Sharper image and detail , also de audio are true arcade quality.