Mtg Deck Tech: G/B Counters in Aether Revolt Standard!

[@WillArtie]

Watching a Dev deck Tech is pure escape & joy. Completely forget your worries, problems, work for around 15 minutes. Wish it went for longer... Thanks again Dev!

[@Dreznin]

I've been play-testing an entirely different G/B Counters list and have come to really like Lifecrafter's Gift in the 4-slot. The synergy that it has with the Winding Constrictor and being at instant speed makes it an incredibly potent combat trick. It's also great for baiting out and surviving an expertise, which is a definite plus. Just food for thought and experimentation.

[@elibillings8598]

Armorcraft Judge is an insane card and I want to play this deck because of it. This decklist looks great

[@MetallerAaron]

Awesome Dev! Definitely going to sleeve this one up and give it a whirl! Keep up the good work man!

[@Basurita]

You have my vote for the mono-red aggro red/black aggro double deck tech. Always love your videos, keep up the great work!

[@SBMTG]

Ohhhh snap a decklist very similar to this one just won SCG Open Columbus y'all

[@SBMTG]

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[@SBMTG]

I'm surprised at the lack of Nissas, but not surprised that Flayer is there

[@SBMTG]

Oh and also 2nd and 3rd place are GB aggro decks too AND YES I WILL CONTINUE TO REPLY TO MYSELF lol

[@Gh0stfaceKiIIah]

aaand Ballista just spiked to $15 f*#%!

[@rossrudolf6787]

Strictly Better MtG bant clues thx!

[@alxdegroot]

This deck looks really a lot like my kind of deck! I almost forgot how much I love putting counters on things until I pulled a Winding Constrictor at Prerelease. Very happy to see a deck like this in the format again. Go Hardened Scales-Snake! Go!

[@inertia5744]

Listening to you get all hype about a deck list is making my hyped up too! Keep up the great work

[@phillipmeade7640]

Awesome deck Dev. You are still my best deck DEVeloper on KZbin.

[@Juhheli]

So get counters ramp to get huge stuff and turn everything sideways. I love it.

[@germtheory9053]

It'd be awesome to see your version of a white black servo aristocrats deck, maybe work in some aetherborn tribal. My version is what you'd expect from a typical aristocrats deck but it has a lot of board wipes and removal to potentially give you a Yahenni with a bunch of counters on an otherwise empty board

[@ZevMaximus]

Won prerelease with G/B counters. Totally wanted to make it for standard. Really excited to have seen this in my subscriptions!!

[@kassill3786]

love the deck man. Ran my own version (no hulks/nissas) yesterday at a GPT and had good results

[@NonkiKong]

Nice video and deck tech :) i would be happy to see your mono red deck! my favorie type of deck ^^

[@SH1014]

R/B aggro sounds right up my alley!! I'm Looking forward to that one

[@jakesalgado5807]

I'm 100% all in to this deck. I've been toying around with a very similar deck list, but I'm testing with a splash of blue. Two reasons: 4x Skyship Plunderer and 2x Altered Ego (maybe more). Both basically serve as copies of Winding Constrictor (Altered Ego could even be a copy of VGH, but better.) and with all the mana fixing from Servant and the Aether Hubs, you can run a single Botanical Sanctum and boom, Sultai counters.

[@AshBMX2011]

oh man! This deck looks like a ton of fun. Awesome work Dev

[@Gh0stfaceKiIIah]

Ridgescale Tusker seems like a solid budget replacement for Green Hulk (especially if you don't have money for Ballista also) no? For my finishers i am running two of that, 1 Green Hulk & 1 of Big Pig (running 3 Armorcraft Judge to sac to it). Although i agree the deck isn't worth making if you don't have at least 3 Nissa VoZ, luckily bought my last 2 for ~$4 a month ago for my Hardened Scales frontier deck. I am also splashing red for Harness Lightning instead of Grasp, i think it is just as easy to get a 3rd color then to get double black, running 4 evolving wilds, 4 Aether Hubs & 4 Attune with Aether (i am running Cub also) so it seems super easy to get 3rd color. What is everyone's thought on Obsessive Skinner, i have always really liked this card, seems like it would be pretty easy to get Delirium running 4 Ballista, 4 Nissa, 4 evolving wilds, 4 instant speed removal and like i said above you would need to go energy sub theme and run 4 Attune with Aether.

[@SBMTG]

Good call on this. Fully support

[@kassill3786]

Strictly Better MtG yeah thats what i ran in its place yesterday and, in certain limited board states, it's a bit better. Green Hulk is still king, but Tusker is no joke either

[@miguelalvarez6450]

Jacob Anderson hey i only have 1 ballista. What can i use to to replace hulk and ballista temporarily?? Till i can obviously afford it lol.

[@Gh0stfaceKiIIah]

I'm no pro so i'm probably not the best person to ask, but are you in more of a Delirium build a a Energy build, like i said tho Ridgescale Tusker is a good replacement for hulk, unless for some reason you aren't running that many creatures.

[@miguelalvarez6450]

Jacob Anderson hey I'm running a counters deck with some removal. The only things i dont have are Nissa, hulk, and only 1 ballista.

[@VeronicaFernandez9109]

Great Birthday present Dev!. My vote goes for the Meccaclues Deck. If done well ( which you will ) seems stupid. I feel like this standard environment almost requires running blue so that is what I'd like to see. I'm Tapped Out

[@SBMTG]

Happy birthday V!

[@geesegoose6174]

Veronica Fernandez HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

[@VeronicaFernandez9109]

Jeez, I pulled a foil *fatal push* from Birthday pack wars AND a Happy Birthday from my favorite MTG guru... I'm so tapped out.

[@yellow_jacket3260]

Veronica Fernandez that foil fatal push is 30 bucks

[@brighamschellinger147]

I like the Bant deck idea. Best of luck with your video making endeavors.

[@captainferrite]

We are of the same mind. Got me a playset of Nissas at her lowest point a week ago and Ballistas and Rhiskars at $2 each. I agree completely on Armorcraft Judge.

[@geesegoose6174]

LOVE this deck! I want to see the mech production deck tech!!!

[@ashadeofnight]

YES!!! Was hoping you'd do this deck!!!!

[@KineBuds]

Great video Dev keep up the great work ! Dev and Wedge best in the business !

[@absolumx6676]

what you guys think about having root out instead of natural obsolescense. yes is sorcery but you can blast an enchantment plus you get a clue for an extra (c) which seem relevant with Tireless tracker in the deck

[@mattbrooks4921]

Great deck. Take out oath of Nissa for at LEAST 2 fatal push and a bristling hydra for your control match up is awesome!

[@Lordborgoth666]

love it man good list but then again i have always loved playing the counters decks.

[@eirikastokes9652]

I'd like to see the R or B/R list!

[@evileyeball]

I love the Constrictor... I made sure to get one at Pre-release. I play mostly EDH so all I needed was one but I tell you where he's going its going to be FUN I'm putting him in "Don't Truffle with me" My Thelon of Havenwood Fungus Tribal. I also have to get an Animation Module as I didn't pick one up yet. Anything I can get that puts extra spore counters on all my thalids is welcome.

[@Venthryx]

LOVE the music you have every intro

[@matttaylor2803]

My version of the deck dropped Drana, that double black hurts, and picked up Aetherborn Marauder who's shown himself to be a real heavy lifter. Steal a counter from whatever isn't in danger from a grasp/yahennis, pay a green for a counter from durable handicraft(an auto include imo), and you have a massive flying life linking threat that demands instant removal.

[@DuncanEllis]

please show us the win on eight clues deck. I was always assuming that deck would be winning on servos, but there are so many Investigate cards that make clues!

[@photohound4793]

This was very close to what I came up with! Looks good!

[@primedialga]

i'm currently testing a version with a lower mana curve (no gearhulks) and with a slight white splash for two oath of ajani, though i will probably replace him with more Dranas. Also in addition to the creatures i play Lead by Example (it's a useful combat trick, can blank grasps or Yahenni's Expertise or just place 4 additional counter on the board with constrictor out) and Heroic Intervention. As additional creatures Narnam Renegade can kill things and Kujar Seedsculptor can place it's prower whereever you need it.

[@H4BITAT]

What about panharmonicon at the 4 slot? could be fun.

[@frissionx_gaming912]

Bant Clues! I have a Sultai version with Herald of Anguish and Battle at the Bridge. The only real reason I thought about white was Thraben Inspector and I couldn't justify that over removal and Herald. I'd love to see what you came up with!

[@TripsAhoy]

I like it Dev. Made mine a little different tho. Put it together last night. Narnam is great at the 1 slot with that death touch. And the green expertise is sweet with gearhulk. turn 5 wins with lots of pressure if you can't remove creatures early.

[@drummerjosh901]

Yes! Been super excited for this deck tech, no Narnam though? Found her to be crazy good.

[@randallferguson1981]

narnam with indestructible is boss. or first strike.

[@zander2582]

why not Glint-sleeve siphoner with Fabrication Model??

[@Jess_Stryker]

As someone who enjoyed Hardened Scales in Standard a year ago, excited to try out GB counters in both standard and frontier. That said, one card I can't decide if I like in some form or not is Narnam Renegade. I think Revolt as a whole is a bit of a trap mechanic, but a 1/2 deathtoucher you can drop for some early presence may not be a bad inclusion. Probably the only Revolt card I'm considering for either format as everything else feels a bit too Magical Christmasland.

[@adamray3497]

My Blue/Green Clues deck has already been doing some serious work. I'd love to see what the Bant Deck can do.

[@elliottreadings8029]

Did the math and with TCGplayer's prices this deck would cost round about $210 to make at the time of me making this message and that's not even including the side board! I mean I know by magic standards this but for a 15 year old who had been a shoe box full of worthless cards from his uncle this made my jaw drop and I'm pretty sure yor vid helped some of the card prices skyrocket. I'm not salty... just poor.

[@leemedhurst7729]

I'd love to see the mechanised production deck! cheers

[@dougwayman8066]

Mono Red and that Bant Mech Production tech sounds like a great set of videos

[@Turai12]

Used both of the main cards during prerelease, just one of each though. Was great

[@spriteofsteel6130]

I'd like to see the mechanized production deck! I'm making one with thopters, and I'd like to see a case for GOING clues instead

[@ebarocks]

LOVE THE SHIRT. LOVE YOUR BUILDS

[@Executor422]

Hey Dev, i absolutely love your deck techs and your content and would like to ask you a question. Where do you go to test the decks you have built?

[@GodEmperorofDune1986]

I'm building something similar, so your video is much appreciated. Some questions: Constrictor and Bandar: Why four and not three counters? Also main deck four Fatal Push. And Maulfist Revolutionary. Brings build in trample and shares +1/+1 counters. And what about Rhino Train? Guess this is a strong archetype.

[@amphyess]

what about mauler a 3 mana trampler that does what constrictor does but only activates when it dies and etb

[@austinmoore3577]

Should definitely roll out that mono red list, I think you're red haste deck from before would be a great place to start. Add in some pump and maybe some burn for those last few points of damage and I think it'd be to fast for some of the deck out there to compete with.

[@shawnfitzpatrick1146]

In any deck with black centered on counters, I would look at Defiant Salvager, Animation Module, and Marionette Master. Sacrifice a Servo to the Salvager for a +1/+1 counter, spend a mana to create another servo via the Animation Module and repeat this process until you run out of mana. In mid to late game, after you drop Marionette Master (fabricate for the 3 +1/+1 counters), she is going to do 4 to the face of target opponent every time you sacrifice the servo to the salvager. Since you're complimenting the black with green and using Rishkar for mana ramp, take a look at Durable Handicraft in there as well.

[@thalisthes]

So I've been working on this deck as well lately and I have some slight differences. I also have an energy theme (which works well with constrictor as well) and I have 3 cubs 3 rampagers 2 servants and 4 glint-sleeve siphoners. Both the fact that it is aggressive and that it can easily draw you cards were something I really liked. Here is my list: 4 Aether Hub 4 Blooming Marsh 4 Hissing Quagmire 1 Westvale Abbey 5 Forest 3 Swamp 3 Greenbelt Rampager 4 Glint-Sleeve Siphoner 3 Longtusk Cub 2 Servant of the Conduit 4 Winding Constrictor 3 Drana 3 Rishkar 2 Tireless Tracker 3 Bristling Hydra 4 Verdurous Gearhulk 2 Attune with Aether 2 Fatal Push 4 Nissa I have also tried armorcraft judge but I feel like bristling hydra is better on the 4-drop slot

[@adamnickel8223]

I'm glad I got my Nissas back for the hardened scales deck.

[@mikeybinfl]

I've been testing this deck for 3 weeks.... im currently running it with lifecrafter's bestiary... can't decide if I want to cut it... also running duskwatch recruiter....

[@NinjaBro4000]

What's up Dev, I have been a fan of your channel for quite some time now and your deck techs have helped me do pretty good in my two years of playing Magic, and while you're probably busy making more entertaining and helpful vids for us, I was wondering if I could get some assistance in, or possibly a deck tech of its own, a standard U/B Aristocrat/Sacrifice deck involving beefing up Marionette Master with Animation Module and using Yahenni, Undying Partisan and Syndicate Trafficker as sacrifice outlets. I'm not quite sure where to go with this, or if you'll even see this comment, but if you do by some miracle, perhaps you can take a crack at this idea. Whatever the case, I can't wait to see more helpful and entertaining content from your channel

[@ahusted93]

Any thoughts there on the inclusion of Unteathered Express in this?

[@claytonchaney2961]

Hey possibly check audio matching I see it off on some videos Great deck though!!

[@kendogva]

Bant clues deck would be awesome, great video Dev!

[@jeanmarais337]

I am soo glad I preordered Winding Constrictor and Walking Balista on day 1 of the spoilers. The first thing you gotta do with a counters deck is protect your guys or have ways to build back your board really fast after they get taken out. Blossoming Defence and Heroic Intervention?! Balista is essential. Something has to put that first counter on, otherwise you choke. I can completely aggree with your "get the toughness above 5" choice of Nissa. Great deck tech. IMO this plays out like a Midrange deck. Too slow at the start to be aggro and will die against control in the late game, so you have to get the corner. In principle, I'm not sure counters is a resiliant stradegy to be a good midrange deck in the long run to be T1...but it's fun to play.

[@minibuffalo6634]

If you had multiple scrounging bandars out with a constrictor, how exactly would the bouncing of counters back and forth work. They come with 3 counters, trade 2 to each other which would then instead be 4 counters? If that's the case first upkeep of having both of them the 3/3 bandars become 5/5 bandars, then next turn they trade 4 counters and become 9/9? Or am I thinking about it wrong?

[@Grimm_HD]

Great job Dev, I would like to see the red or BR list.

[@ArcadisWR]

Are we ever going to get a mono green stompy deck

[@juliosamaniego2206]

Nothing makes me happier than seeing Devs face on KZbin.

[@FunnyFunFunTime]

Hi I really enjoyed the video. I would like to contribute to the discussion by throwing white into the mix. Most notably 4th turn Oath of Ajani, plus the big cat himself 5th turn. His ultimate seems like it could be devastating with Winding Constrictor out. Pro-white mechanical keywords like: Bolster/Renown/Fabricate/Converge also seem quite A LOT better. An example could be Angel of Invention. Instead of a 4/3; it would be a 5/4 "Fligilink" Glorious Anthem. Or perhaps lets play this 7/7 Woodland Wanderer, because that seems plausible. I was also thinking of Constrictor with other crazy artifact counters using >Insert Brain in a Jar here< to 1 cost Diabolic Tutor(s) going from 4-6 during their end step, looking for 1 cost Part the Waterveil(s) during my main. With this strategy you could use cheap specific counterspells (Dispel/Warping Wail/Negate) for their artifact/constrictor removal, while also having mana resources to add to the board. On a random side note: I would like to see a Jund version of the Constrictor (perhaps with Olivia, Mobilized for War). Something along the lines of Turn 1 Renegade Map. Turn 2 Cathartic Reunion. Turn 3 Olivia, Mobilized for War. Turn 4 Constrictor (4/5 Haste) discarding a madness'd Asylum Visitor (5/3 Haste) OR casting Kari Zev (3/5 Haste, bringing a 2/1 Monkey). You could add value discard creatures like Amalgam & Scrapper or play on the "Hellbent" (no cards in hand) method with Lupine Prototypes as a 7/7 with haste for 2 colorless mana seems legit.

[@Citizen_J]

please show us the Raging Clue deck

[@alexanderlea1820]

Yes do the clues deck please!

[@meatbyproducts]

no panharmonicons?

[@lachpicker5605]

Can you do an updated version of the Cheerios deck

[@dr_jones9137]

winding constrictor with fabrication module and some energy generators is awesome.

[@MrNajie]

I actually did the snake into rishkar in my prerelease a couple times lol. It was game over everytime I did.

[@willmorosoff3191]

My vote goes to the mechanized production deck, but what I'd like to see is the hedron alignment and secret salvage stupid AWC deck. We've seen a lot of blue black recently though so i get it if we don't see it but i'd like to see it eventually.

[@cooleycollege01]

yes to b/r aggro, also mardu agro or maybe something b/w?

[@ryderigo694]

Hey dev could you look into a hyper aggro red white deck with ornithopter and reckless Bushwacker at the top of the curve with toolcraft exemplar and inventors apprentice it can kill on turn 3 so it seems cool

[@OldSchoolGM94]

Ballista control? Walking Ballista, Winding Constrictor, scrap Trawler and Renegade Map is really fun as a control deck

[@themuffindragon]

Definitely wanna see the Clues deck

[@garrybereby8289]

i would like to see the Aetheborn deck because i already create a version 2 weeks ago and i find it quite good so i'd like to see your opinion for this tribal deck

[@grymgungus3933]

I was really countering on Dev to make a cool deck and he pulled through! I'd like to see red black aggro unlicensed disintegration is so good against Saheeli If you could figure out how to get enough artifacts in, Syndicate Trafficker could be good in aetherborn tribal. Weaponcraft Enthusiast seems pretty good at being an aetherborn and 2 artifacts. Also you would probably put Scrounger in even though it's not an aetherborn because it's too good.

[@thunter1995]

Wow Dev. You might have caused Walking Ballista to price spike! It's doubled after your video came out!

[@SBMTG]

The tournament results from the first tournament of the season came out today, and G/B Counters builds took 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. I got lucky and posted my GB Counters deck on the same day (although it does kinda suck that half of the prices in the video are instantly invalidated)

[@efraincampos7382]

Great deck tech, I hope you can make an mono green or green/blue energy deck at some point

[@TheOrian34]

If you have time to brew with pia's revolution. Would be fun. Not really surprised that BG counters is one of the most powerfull decks around

[@Ostenkaer]

What's the math behind the points you assign it? If any.

[@mateuszmarsy7121]

what would you exile with something like lost legacy from this deck? winding constrictor? green gearhulk?

[@XxXx-gd5qc]

R/B aggro please! i have no idea what to do with my R/B madness deck without copter.

[@madviolentchicken]

I liked the idea of this base and may slip some Maulfist Revolutuonary and that one that gives every other creature +1 counter on ETB in for a budget-ier build

[@madviolentchicken]

Also like the idea of Heroic Intervention for hexproof indestructable. Then again, I'm pretty shit at this so defer entirely to the collective knowledge entirely dismissing these :')

[@randallferguson1981]

you aren't wrong bro, that leaves only board wipes to defend against or sac effects like blessed alliance...you are better than you think

[@user-fh2hk3tx1x]

At 3:10 in the video when you mention Servant of the Conduit and having a Constrictor in play wouldn't you get 4 energy counters instead of two? I'm relatively new to the game and was just curious. Your channel is great btw!

[@Leinad654321]

mono green stompy?

[@finncena5972]

I did the same as this but mine is abzan with oath of ajani and line rider

[@Destral02]

What about adding hangarback walker as well?

[@ashadeofnight]

Yes to mechanised production please thats the other deck I am thinking of building. Please try aetherborn tribal too, I think its a cool idea.

[@mtgmight353]

Can you make another control deck plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@christraxel6971]

What would you incorporate if you turned this into a Jund build? Thats what im currently working on at the moment.

[@alfblack2]

YEH. I am hoping to build aetherborn tribal myself. Would love to compare an expert build.

[@aclaytonSR]

Do you know if "Scrounging Bandar" can give counters to more than one creature at the beginning of upkeep?

[@Vi101Jay]

Hey Dev!! Look, I've been thinking... Is it possible to make a deck with brains in a jar and inspiring statuary? Like, using brains 4 value spells, some artifacts 4 statuary and ramp towards worldbreakers and big Ulas?

[@miguelalvarez6450]

Hey guys please help!! What could be a great replacement for ballista and hulk?? Can't afford over $100 for 8 cards lol

[@mieblock4856]

I've been looking at 4 copies of Undergrowth Champion for my 3 drop. (obviously TT and Rishkar are the dream but i cant justify those guys and ballista on my budget) Has anybody tested this boy would he be viable? also how about Aetherborn Marauder as a cheap 4 drop

[@alxdegroot]

I definitely want to see that Mechanised Investigation deck 😆👍

[@Flippyfloppy007]

How do you come up with the numbers in your deck score? Would love to be able to assess my own brews in the same way. Thanks!

[@bdrakePBDA]

How about using the Elephant and Cub to trigger revolt every turn? That's gotta be worth something.