Which Carabiner is best?| Choosing the right one for every situation| Beginner to Expert Guide

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There are so many choices for great Carabiners, but not all are created equal. This video should help make sense of the design differences between carabiners. Hopefully you find it useful.
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[@chrisa1250]

Any carabiner used for life support must be double locking and have at least two consecutive, deliberate actions to PREPARE the gate for opening. Your steel rigging carabiner is single action and not rated for life support.

[@Stridertrees]

Thanks for the input here. So the exact wording in my manual says those Carabiners are required to be “self closing and self double locking and shall have a gate-locking mechanism that requires at least two consecutive, deliberate actions to unlock” so you may be right, if the final opening of the carabiner is not considered “unlocking” the gate in which case “triple locking” is a misnomer that is confusing in its description of those sorts of connectors. It may also be that the action involved in opening the carabiner qualifies as the the second deliberate unlocking action. The wording in my ANSI manual is somewhat unclear on that point, although I suspect you’re right and what I called “double locking” is not sufficient for the climbers life support (suspension system)

[@chrisa1250]

I agree it's a bit confusing. Non locking carabiners still require an action to open but that final action is not unlocking, just opening. Similarly, life support rated carabiners require a minimum of 2 actions to unlock. The final action of opening is not an unlocking action and doesn't count in the unlocking sum. I've also seen my own life support carabiners rub on rope and branches and open unintentionally. Yikes! There's no substitute for awareness. Thanks for a great video!👍

[@fancyosborne9459]

Steel rocko by rock exotica

[@diegoamalfitano6831]

Here in Spain it's mandatory to use what manufacturers call three position carabiners, which is basically what Chris is saying: 2 moves and then opening the gate. DMM makes 4 position carabiners too, I think they call it Durolock

[@TonyMontgomery18]

"Triple-Action, Double-Locking" is the terminology used in another video. Two of the "actions" are unlocking the two, spring-loaded locks, and the third action is opening the gate. And there's "Double-Action, Single-Locking" which just requires the twist to unlock, and then opening the gate. Hope that helps. Thanks for the great videos, and discussion to help get all the details right :)

[@TimberTrainer]

Single action is non locking. Double action is single locking. Triple action is double locking. Life support carabiners should be double locking, triple action. Single locking is acceptable for rigging, and non locking is for accessories.

[@williambarnett4060]

I'm glad someone else caught that. In my head I was like nope, not triple locking. double locking, triple action.

[@yl1487]

Are you a fan of the triple locking type (Durolock, I think?), that is, quadruple action? What are your thoughts? Just heard Casey's thinking along the lines of putting them in a low redundancy situation - single line attachment, addressing the risk of gate getting snagged / rolled against tree or something.

[@TimberTrainer]

@yl1487 I have played with the triple lockers, but never used them for work. I highly recommend using ANSI rated carabiners for choking anchors. They have sturdier gates for the possible rubbing on a branch or other obstructions. All carabiners are more likely to fail if they are improperly loaded.

[@cornwallextreme]

I liked the idea of the mini one as a weak point in the system. In the UK once we put the notch in, before the back cut goes in, we put a horizontal cut a few inches below the notch on either side (called ears) . So if the hinge doesn't break, instead of ripping the tree down the length and crushing you, it acts like a step cut and will snap off. Obviously make sure your flipline and back up life line are well below the ears.... Luckily I've never had to test the ears but always put them in to be on the safe side.

[@mvblitzyo]

excellent information , the tree care industry has come a loooong way from 3 strand rope n snaps . great content .

[@prestonakin6618]

Love the petzel wire-lock carabiner

[@EricJemAndes]

Nice video man! Looking forward to having you as a speaker/presenter at the Elevated Office Webinar!

[@Stridertrees]

Thanks I’m excited to be a part of it !

[@strongrootstreequaade8287]

Thank you for the videos. Always appreciate your insight. Clear and to the point. Thanks so much 💪🏼

[@Stridertrees]

Glad you’re enjoying it :)

[@muhsinkarim7944]

Thanks for all your vids. Are you able to show us how you clean/maintain your carabiners?

[@Stridertrees]

That’s a good idea I need to do some cleaning on those anyway :)

[@TimberTrainer]

Thanks for the video even if the information isn't solid. There are some rare triple locking, four action carabiners. It's much more important that carabiners are used properly and rated for the appropriate load. No amount of locking will prevent side loading or overloading the hardware.

[@Stridertrees]

Yes there is no replacement for frequent visual confirmation of appropriate orientation and load !

[@alexworks9659]

Try the ANSI gate DMM Boa, great “choking” carabiner, it has a slight reverse curve on the spine which helps prevent it from side loading the gate.

[@alotl1kevegas860]

So glad I watched this. I was wondering what the heck made ansi carabiners so special lol.

[@stevebrough304]

Thanks for this informative video. I wish that I'd seen a great video like this before I bought my first carabiners. I realized my error right after my first purchase. Triple action is the the way to go...

[@j.c.lawntreesnow6272]

Retire it before it dies so you dont die with it. that should a slogan. Stryder please try the rock exotica hydra pulley on your bridge and do a review on it .peace

[@Stridertrees]

That’s the same pulley Sherrill tree had re-branded as the “rook” pulley and I ran it for quite a while on my saddle. I got too annoyed with the little openings being to small for half my carabiners. Otherwise it was great for the smaller carabiners

[@Stridertrees]

I should make it a t-shirt

[@humanfilth6607]

love your channel! very informative!

[@leonflemming354]

My alltime favourites are Aliens Classic Twist- and Trilock-carabiners. Outstanding Quality for al low price. They are just way smoother and easier to operate than any other Autolock. The Twistlock has replaced all one hand biners on all my lanyards. Also i have less wear on descenders and hand ascenders because of the rounded design. And the polished finish just looks absolutely awesome! To top all that, with 14€ they are quite affordable. Absolute must-have for any climber!

[@Stridertrees]

I'll have to check those out if they are here Stateside. Thanks for the tip!

[@Squirrel200]

Great job ! Thank you

[@JeffersonGuerraMartins]

Thanks Dude!!!

[@user-yz1pw5im6i]

I read in a rock climbing book that carabiners that are called "Chounards" are to be used for climbing because they are stronger. Chounards are shaped differently not rounded there flat sided. What do you think about that?

[@donr4582]

Thanks for the info 👍

[@Matlalcueitl]

I don't know if you can use one on trees but I very much like twin-lock carabiners (Beal, Grivel).

[@carravagio16]

check out the grivel double gate locking biners

[@griley1474]

Ah yes using the tail of your climb line for rigging... Classic dark arts stuff right there

[@Stridertrees]

😅 🤫 shhh

[@TimberTrainer]

Nobody heard that.

[@kaylebdunwoodie9079]

how about those petzl roll clip or dmm revolver with the built in pulley at the bottom

[@alainvilleneuve3055]

Awesome 👌

[@neild7971]

Are you sure sideloading tests the configuration you showed around the branch?

[@neild7971]

Not that I’m too worried about that loading around a larger relatively soft thing like a tree(as apposed to around a steel bar) just curious if they tested it that way and not just pulling and pushing in the same plane as the carabiner

[@clintdrosselmeyer8092]

What’s the name/make/model of the pear shaped orange biner at 6:45

[@pablowin07]

I bought the stihl ms-310 I need to cut a pine, do you find it too heavy to climb?? Best regards...

[@Michael-qj4vj]

Ever use the quad lock?

[@Bsquez0129]

Do you not use revolvers or roll clips? I was hoping to get a little more info on those types for mechanical advantages and anchors and the like

[@Stridertrees]

I have the roll clip, and a revolver, but I RARELY use them, mainly because the roll clip I have is the one with the locking mechanism on the wrong side so I can't slide a spliced prussic cord opposite the pulley end, and they end up being such light duty that I almost always end up going with something beefier if I need the mechanical advantage.

[@treemanstan838]

I had a peel off the other day. I was topping the tree and was going to chunk after that. When topping it, it split and took me down with my lanyards. I was using 2 steel core lanyards so they didn't break, but I thought my pelvis was going to get crushed for a minute there before it peeled off. Scary. If I had the little biner on there wouldn't I have just fallen out of the tree then after it snapped? Appreciate the input, didn't have a backup line cause it was the last piece to top and could only use lanyards.

[@j0rp]

I'm glad you're safe. What side of "well the seatbelt kept her stuck in the car underwater and she drowned" does a small biner like that fall on in a case like yours?

[@treemanstan838]

@@j0rp hard to say I guess. Cheap biner really only works if you have a backup line I guess

[@klangille8284]

I'm thinking perhaps a different cut, and or at a different location, could have mitigated what happened to you, regardless of equipment. However breakaways are utilized when you're also tied into something else... Like a different part of the same tree, or an adjacent tree. A climb line should be used as the 2nd tie in just below your cut. In a hairy situation, you could use a strong ratchet strap just below your cut, then tie in below that. Don't mean to judge anyone without having all the details. However it would seem if someone instructed you to climb that way, then you need a different teacher. Anyways glad you survived it and hope you learned so it doesn't happen to you again.

[@briantorsell]

Great video, thanks for sharing! Is following the ANSI minimum ratings for insurance purposes or to cover the different scenarios of professional work? (Asking as a hobbyist.)

[@Stridertrees]

It’s for all those guys who are looking at getting hired with line clearance crews or other big companies out here in the States. They generally hold to the ANSI standards and its best to be familiar as they are a good guideline for safer climbing.

[@briantorsell]

@@Stridertrees Makes sense, thanks!

[@joeherbert3590]

Is an ultrasonic cleaner OK for carabiners?

[@Stridertrees]

Those seem like a great way to clean hardware.

[@ItsFishh]

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