You're Not Fat You're Starving W/ Kathleen Stewart

[@veronicajohnson1194]

I am so grateful to have found you sisters. I always thought I was athletic and healthy. Yet I see now that I have struggled with my health for YEARS. You have opened my eyes to the abuse I have been putting my body through. I’m looking forward to learning how to thrive again and love my body.

[@maryvanderplas3232]

This was so good and helpful to me. I've been in a semi-starvation state for most of my adult life and for the past three years a starvation state. I'm trying to dig myself out now, but it's hard. You can't know how much I appreciated this discussion and your vulnerability in sharing your own stories. Thank you so very much! By the way, I'm 66 years old. I've destroyed my body but you've given me hope that recovery is yet possible.

[@terrinoggle3893]

Edema is important. I have had edema twice both after long term juicing. It took 4 months the 1st time. It took 14 months the 2nd time. It's very painful to have edema. I addressed thyroid and hormones...and used compression socks to help pain. So grateful it has improved to almost undetectable most days! I had overshoot as well. It takes patience.

[@sansan357]

Starved myself in my younger years. Would have an apple and nothing else. I then took up smoking so I wouldn't eat. Tried every diet out there for years! Now I suffer trying to lose weight. I finally went Carnivore 4+ years ago and didn't lose weight FOREVER, but I felt so much healthier. I have finally increased my consumption of meat, eggs, fat and my body is finally releasing weight. I've slowly lost 18lbs. I hope my body will find its NORMAL weight, whatever that is. Good conversation ladies. Keep it up. I hope young people LISTEN.

[@Bellavella123]

How much fat to protein

[@jackiegrant410]

Interesting, I’ve always said that those that are obese are infact starving, starving of the proper nutrition.

[@Heracleetus]

You three are just so freaking awesome it's crazy

[@federicoroca1882]

The Minnesota Starvation Experiment or Miss Universe Beauty Pageant ?

[@KORTOKtheSTRONG]

people underestimate how high metabolism can go

[@Gibby1257-oy7oi]

Let’s not forget it all starts with a little lie and lots of fear.... I thanks you 3 for your honesty courage and transparency. With 3 daughter I know as a father now grandpa how what your talking about and doing is so so important-thanks again for ALL your doing-Sistas ...I’m 66 long time follower of DR Peat,years ago when I came across you gals (2018-19) and you started to really struggle with issues and started talking with Paul Saladino l new eventual you would find Dr Peat-your curiosity, openness, intuition and willing to change [Perceive, Think, Act] it was meant to happen ; )

[@KT-dy8bz]

Amazing Kathleen and strong sistas thank you for this opportunity to learn and heal 🙏❤️

[@HealthyWithNicole]

It’s sad what so many women are doing to themselves without even realizing it.😢

[@brianm840]

And guys! Undereating is just the norm for almost everyone now. Fasting and cutting carbs is just what everyone assumes is the healthier way to eat.

[@soofitnsexy]

most men today also

[@brianm840]

@@soofitnsexy The r/testosterone subreddit is just a bunch of guys trying to figure out how to use trt to make up for the fact they have been in a chronic calorie deficit for years.

[@SG-ji5ij]

We've all been mislead, possibly intentionally.

[@rainflowers1099]

Fascinating video. It's been eye opening to stumble across this approach to diet. I've had quite a strange relationship with food over the years. I'm certain I was under eating, mainly driven by a lack of appetite. I rarely felt hungry, even when missing meals entirely. This makes sense though, listening to this conversation. I've recently been adding more carbs, in the form of fruit, fruit juice and some sugar. And I've noticed my appetite pick up. In a way that feels healthy. Thankyou so much for these videos!

[@kerrymayer1556]

So much good information once again! I did not realize the extent of damage I have done to myself for decades basically starving myself for thinness! Thank you for opening my eyes!

[@healthyteddy]

I love this conversation and see myself in many of these situations. One thing that I have found impossible is tracking. It is too stressful for me and feels limiting. Especially as a mom who cooks big meals for the whole family.

[@victorianstrengthclub6858]

The hearts is not a pump ♥️

[@ManjiMachine]

Explain why when it stops you die?

[@regularmompantrylife2587]

What you ladies said about a short time period of under eating ch!Ning you forever really resonates with my experience. In 2011 my husband abandoned us and I didn't eat for several months. I forced myself to eat a couple of crackers, a string cheese or a granola bar every couple of days. The weight loss was appreciated but obviously not done in a good way. I remarried and after two pregnancies I've blown up like a balloon and I can't lose. I have a lot of the issues you talk about. I'd like to heal myself before I turn 50 I a few years!

[@Farnsfamily]

Wow I didn’t put this together either. 1.5 years ago I went thru a very similar traumatic experience, could not eat and would vomit if I tried to. Lost weight in a matter of months. Now that I’m down the road from the trauma my health in general has tanked. Can’t stop weight gain, hair falling out and general fatigue. Now I’m deep into these podcasts trying to figure out how to feel metabolically healthy again 😓

[@Dana-ih5ng]

Really grateful for all the information and insights! However, I have a few questions and would really appreciate if they were addressed in future episodes. So since the last episode with Kathleen Stewart, when I got relieved but also excited about the amount of calories we should be actually consuming for good health… I have gained another 7 pounds on, which I am not at all excited about. I now look puffy and frankly overweight, whereas before I was sort of borderlining. So by using the formula (45 times per kg of body weight) I calculated I should be consuming around 2500 calories if I took my ideal weight (not sure if even realistic anymore), but if I used my actual weight I should be consuming around 3000 cal. Previously I was trying to stick to around 2k and my weight was stable, but at a higher number than desired. I was, and still am, looking into how can I lose weight in a healthy way. I was tracking meticulously on Cronometer for the last month. With this magical cut off number of 2.5k in my mind I would actually give myself permission to eat some more, till I felt reasonably satisfied (important note: I am very conscious about nutrition, so those calories would come from quality sources carbs, proteins and fats). So by listening to my body, I would actually naturally land somewhere around 2.5k. I started feeling more energetic and I also noted I was hitting all the micro targets just from food alone. I also felt satisfied and calm by the end of the day, appreciating that I had enough nutrition. BUT I put on weight. I feel way better, but I look way worse. I understand I jumped into my optimal calorie intake probably too quickly. I understand it needs to be gradual. However, I am sure this would be a problem for the MAJORITY of people. Not many will have a willpower to keep adding 10 cal per week. Especially if they start feeling better and keep hearing they should be eating more, not less! So here are my questions: 1. What about people that don't come from overly restrictive diets, that actually eat good food but for whatever reasons (hormones, endotoxins, perimenopause etc) keep putting on weight if they eat to satisfaction. Do they need to address those issues first before they start adding more calories? 2. What to do if I am already in the situation where I jumped into a bigger calorie intake too soon and gained weight quickly? Do I cut back a bit and then start adding gradually? Do I adjust my macros? Cut on fat? Many thanks!

[@victorianstrengthclub6858]

Admitting i didn’t read it all. Forgive me (I’m in a hot bath cutting weight for a competition) Yes cut your calories to what feels right and makes weight stable, then rebuild

[@Denise_Fay]

Wow, this information is amazing. I have been dealing with very low energy for 10 years. I have definitely been calorie restricting and suffer from disordered eating. Luckily I am not eating low carb, but I will start to very gradually increase my calories. I am hopeful that this will lead me on the road to recovery. Thank you!!!!!

[@lovemelab8003]

Kathleen’s former symptoms are classic hypermobility spectrum disorder or hEDS symptoms. These collagen disorders can become severe and cause every one of the symptoms she’s talking about; Along with MCAS, Endometriosis, cervical instability, dysautonomia - it affects every system in the body. I have them all as well. I’m currently trying to correct hypermobile dysfunction and MCAS by raising my metabolic rate. Just a few changes have drastically changed my life over two week’s time. I was completely bedridden for eight months this year; exhausted myself seeing every doctor I could find and decided none of what they offered made sense or sounded appealing. I drank orange juice and took aspirin during a particularly bad bout of heart palpitations one night, recently, and the next day I was out of bed all day by listening to my body and adding enough proteins, fats and carbs + sugars with everything I ate 😅 I paid close attention to sensations of adrenaline or low sugar and adjusted my meals accordingly. I’ve not returned to my bedridden state in nearly two weeks with the diet changes and thyroid and hormones I’m taking. I was already organic and using natural sugars (local SW Michigan honey, actually) and had been eating very little (maybe one meal a day, two if I was particularly hungry). Most of the time I would forget to eat until dinner with my husband… and was trying to eat keto as my doctor preferred (he would wag his finger at me if I told him I had fruit). Oddly enough, the times in my life when I would unintentionally be the slimmest was when I was eating more fruit in the summertime along with being out in the sun a lot (as a teenager). This metabolic stuff is no joke. I’ll be curious to see how I do with weight loss after 30+ years of disordered eating and remaining underweight or at weight most of my life since age 12, and putting on weight after forty for “no apparent reason” - but, honestly, the extra 50 lbs at 5’10” are the least of my worries. My hEDS symptoms had gotten so bad I was getting desperate to leave topside. I was offered spinal fusion and endometriosis excision due to the amount of nerve pain in my legs and no one knowing quite what was causing it. I’m just shocked and grateful I’m not flat on my back all day right now. I fully believe hypermobile disorders that come with neurological issues and MCAS and endometriosis and other fertility issues can be prevented and healed/well managed with this type of management. Or eating like my great grandparents. It makes sense that our metabolic health directly affects someone with genetic tissue issues. Add childhood trauma and environmental and societal triggers and we’re pretty sunk. It feels like specialists are shooting in the dark to knock symptoms down 10% at a time with meds and physical therapy and mobility aids, when it’s really a systemic issue that would not be so aggravated if the body were not so triggered and inflamed all the time by every little thing.

[@fille.imgnry]

One binge eater right here! Great coversation! Thx❤

[@leannshort2211]

Wow, I started crying at hiding food or being bothered while eating and worrying if there would be enough to last. SO TRUE!! 😓😭 Wow and I also have long Covid 🫥

[@Maddogmjd1900]

What they are describing makes sense.....if the body experiences starvation, the first thing it will do when there is abundance is try and build up fat stores in case starvation happens again. Like if we have a fuel shortage and we dip into oil reserves, the first rule once you get more oil is to rebuild the reserve. Once the body goes a while without being starved, it figures it's in a safe place and can release some of those emergency fat stores.

[@georgeklucsarjr1988]

I see that Mss Stewart is knowledgeable on Dr Gilbert Ling's work. Does she have any podcasts on Dr Gilbert Ling's research or any lectures/writings on the same? If not, maybe she can start a forum on Facebook or Reddit or etc, on mainly Dr Gilbert Ling's research ( which would incorporate Dr Peats ). More info on Cardinal Absorbents and the folding and unfolding of proteins and the gel/EZ structure of the cytoplasm/cytosol in the cells! Also it seems she probably has a higher understanding of the electromagnetic potential of the cell ( like since the Krebs Cycle and Electron Transport Chain has a flow of electrons, does that then create a magnetic potential? ). Thanks sistas for your podcast. I'm always learning new things

[@lovemelab8003]

I also think we should stop saying we’ve “done this to ourselves” - society has done this to us. From body image messages to doctors to the moralizing of body mass, we have not done this to ourselves… I feel like that’s a really toxic way of victim blaming. We were literally doing what our doctors and other health practitioners and fitness experts, even or parents were telling us to do. We were brain washed from infancy. Our learned helplessness wasn’t our fault. It’s important to distinguish where blame lies. And putting the blame on the correct entities helps us break the cognitive dissonance so we can rescue ourselves. Putting blame where is lies is not, not taking responsibility for oneself.

[@ArcturusAndromeda]

I have been ‘skinny fat’ most of my life - aka relatively high fat percentage and slow metabolism but not overweight, not overeating/not dieting - just high body fat. Aside from weight training is there a way to shift this to reduce the relative fat proportion now that I am perimenopausal and bigger than I used to be?

[@Christinesobsevations]

Same here . I eat clean . High meat with veggies & fruit . Strength train & that's all

[@loot6]

It's good to see women talking about health and nutrition since it's normally dominated by men. Especially talking about what we really should be talking about instead of working against our bodies like most "gurus" advise.

[@estherbartkiw]

This is such an important discussion. I am certain I am a malnourished fatty. But I'll be honest the thought of gaining weight for a year to lose weight is a psychological hinderance. I'm going to watch the first part to this discussion.

[@leannshort2211]

Hello ladies! I am newly subscribed to your channel and I am most impressed and hopeful with all the content in this video! First one I have watched on your channel. My sister recommended it because we both, along with 3 other sisters and my two children who are in their 20’s and most likely my other sisters children, also suffer from pseudo starvation. I am so sad that I didn’t know this many, many years ago… 😔 I am 43 yrs old, 5’9 and 134 lbs! I know that is so very unhealthy. I have a couple questions. I have tried the GAPS diet twice in the past. Each time for about 5 months to “heal and seal a leaky gut”… It nearly killed me! I looked so emaciated! I did more damage to my body by following that diet. Now, as it did help in teaching me many different ways to prepare, ferment and culture foods I am grateful for that. I source a lot of my food now from local farms as much as possible in this ever inflating economy. 😒 I am so thrilled and SO much stress I feel has already lifted from me just knowing I don’t have to starve myself and I can eat pretty much whatever I want in whole healthy foods! I do, however, have a severe histamine intolerance. I would love to implement collagen peptides to easily increase my protein intake as I have a hard time reaching that every day, but worried about the extreme reaction I will probably have. this histamine intolerance has caused me to have asthma like symptoms and congestion to where I can barely smell or taste anything anymore. I have a very productive, chronic cough every time I eat most anything! 😩 I have looked into this in depth, and have no doubt that MCAS is a big problem for me. I recently found a supplement by pure encapsulations called Hist reset. in reading about it, it looks like it’s a mast cell modulator and immune mediator activation. Helps with normal histamine digestion and normal respiratory health. I also like the fact that you take 2 capsules once a day, instead of before a meal and after a meal 3X a day! I am really hoping this helps because just about everything that goes into my mouth now causes a reaction. 😣😔 I’d like to eat normally to heal myself properly and not have these horrible reactions at the same time. Ya know, kind of enjoy life and food a little during this healing process. This is another reason why I have been so afraid of food. Another question I have is, my husband and I love to hike. We live near the white mountains of NH and love going up there, it’s so beautiful. I am wondering if it would be ok to hike as I am also implementing pro metabolic eating? I know I will have to plan for a lot higher calorie intake but am wondering if it’s doable without causing more damage? I also donate plasma from time to time. Is that also ok to do as long as I’m getting enough nutrients? Thank you so much for your channel! So glad to be a part of this now after years of unknowingly suffering. I am also getting my children on board. Thank you, thank you, thank you! ❤🙌🏻❤️

[@binathere2574]

I had a b12 deficiency. Once I started on injections I quckly gained 5 kilo without changing my eating habits. Now it is very difficult to budged that extra weight. I am not sure what is needed. Very frustrating. I have since the weight gain increased carbohydrate intake. For 12 months while unwell there wasn't much I could eat. I ate nothing but cabbage soup for 4 months

[@Unlucky1287]

I was only low carb for just under 6 months. Got put on t4 thyroid meds a.d started eating normal and BLEW up.

[@NikasNeuroNuggets]

Love Kathleen! She’s so objective! Can she please share where she got the 44-48 kcal per BW. I would love to see the studies ❤

[@JamieR]

Thanks for these videos. They have been a kick in the butt to try and figure out this stuff and stop chasing the symptoms and diagnosis. I'm 5.8", 37 male and at 123lbs... Even if I do increase my intake, I don't gain much weight, and if I do my gut function falls apart. Every time I've used elemental drinks to supplement my body would recover, but it's so full of junk it's made things worse long term. So clearly need to go slower and figure this out piece by piece. And get weight lifting again... I'm in a space where I can finally do that again.

[@eddief9254]

You need to eat high carb low fat unlimited calories from fruit and starches high carb is key

[@makailavincent6650]

What about chronic dehydration for the water retention issue?

[@loot6]

Dehydration won't fix anything, it will just make things worse.

[@makailavincent6650]

@@loot6 lol

[@dbzgtcrazy]

You should really really really have Chris Masterjohn on to talk about nutritionally actionable, individual, genetic bottlenecks of energy metabolism!!! :)

[@loot6]

What’s this 44-48 she keeps mentioning? Is it weight in kg multiplied by 44 low end to 48 high end? Is that only for women or does it work with men too or is there a different multiplier? I couldn’t find anything about it by searching.

[@soofitnsexy]

yes its times your weight in kg...i feel its a ridiculously high number especially for men

[@KaroAdC]

I would love to see how do you heal from that and if it’s possible Very interesting video Thank you

[@rjk3322]

I’m sorry I can’t seem to find the earlier podcast re: the starvation experiment, could you please link it. Thank you!

[@denisehawkins6812]

So what happens to those fitness gals who are cycllow calories then after competition they up the calories?

[@CarisaRae]

I think if you're not active gentle fasting is good.. if you can eat enoufh

[@ManjiMachine]

What about exercise during this recovery with maintenance calories phase?

[@ub2-ko6cy]

b1 is mainly in pork or wholegrains, in UK wheat is fortified with b1

[@gjahncke]

Never eat processed food seed oils sugar and carbs oxalates pestozides Kings eat meat Slaves eat wheat

[@newsdropz5361]

I under-ate on Carnivore for 1.5 years too. What if I just up the calories on carnivore, wouldn't that be ok? Or do I need to eat carbs? Low/zero carb cured my anxiety.

[@wilcsen]

My understanding is that low carb raises your stress hormones which causes the body to store fat and a whole host bad things. When you are oxidizing fat for fuel you are still storing more than your burning. 😢

[@Atheria444]

I commented on her first interview, but 5,000+ IUs of vitamin D per day cured stubborn edema problems in my lower legs.

[@maryvanderplas3232]

Does the course you offer help one to transition from zero carb to adding in carbs without totally crashing?

[@juri8723]

use fructose.

[@Christinesobsevations]

That's why Im doing . Dark berries . Green veggies

[@k41418]

I crave fats over carbs so should I follow those cravings? I have never handled carbs well even as a kid. I also see it in my daughter. Energy and mood crashes, water retention, excess fat, bloating. Could some people just do better on a bit lower carb than others?

[@annakolesnikova7463]

Me too. I actually can't get enough calories in on a higher-carb approach due to bloating, but can easily eat 1200-1500 calories worth of meat in one sitting with no discomfort at all (and 3000-3500 calories daily). It's the carnivore-ish way of eating that taught me about my true appetite and keeps my body really warm, active and balanced. Even with moderate carbs, I am just lethargic, cold, and achy and don't want to move at all. Now, I only eat carbs on demand, so to speak -- only if I crave something in particular. So it could be zero carbs on some days, about 50 grams on most days, and 150 grams once in a while. I think there is way more nuance about carbs.

[@k41418]

@@annakolesnikova7463 I am very similar with getting colder with more carbs, bloating but I get low blood sugar 2 to 3 hours after eating carbs so I eat constantly but do consume similar calories as the bloating makes me feel full. I'm not saying I'm great on low carb but those areas all improve

[@charleswalters5284]

I bet you got type O blood. We evolved hunting, before people grew wheat.

[@charleswalters5284]

You don't need any carbs.

[@soofitnsexy]

of course do whatever works for you but I will say this ...for years i avoided real carbohydrates potatoes fruits rice etc. not junk lol Now I love real carb sources and am getting leaner nd feel better...but if it does not work for you enjoy protein and fat sources! there is no one diet!

[@amybaker5856]

Whats the handle for the lady mentioned that always recommendeds staying at maintenance before any sort of deficit? Thank you ❤

[@joyfullyhealthypets1184]

Where can I find the MSE book you are using?

[@polysaturated]

Check the references in the video description, links are at the bottom

[@CarisaRae]

I have low iron, bruise easily

[@bethanyknight9509]

My mind is spinning. How do I even get started with nourishing my body? Is there some sort of protocol to follow?

[@soofitnsexy]

very very slowly..as a guy I started eating agin a few years back after years of fasting low carb refeeds etc yo yoing last 10 pounds etc. you will quickly gain 10 lbs and it will be very depressing ...so start slowly!!!

[@Maddogmjd1900]

Eczema can be a result of this low caloric lifestyle??? Would love more info on this and how to reverse it.......and does soy intake have an impact on this too?

[@wilcsen]

Soy is thr worst 😝

[@leannshort2211]

I hoping someone, anyone will read this. I am so beyond desperate and literally feel like death! The histamine intolerance/MCAS is so bad I have this chronic, very productive cough all the time. When I eat anything, I friggin react. I have put off going on a big Pharma medication because I want to heal myself naturally. I have tried SO many healing modalities. Keto, The GAPS diet, twice! Both times I only starved myself because I went by the book. I literally turned into a skeleton. Had root canals removed that have been in my mouth for years. Thought that was the driver…. Probably was, but that’s not gonna cure this histamine intolerance overnight. I wish! I don’t know what else to do at this point to at least calm the mast cells so that I can at least eat! This is one of the main reasons I’m afraid of food. I am about to give in and just get on a medication if I can’t find a supplement that works well enough to calm this histamine response down. DAO? Lysine? NAC? NAC is found in some supplements, but I’ve heard even that can cause a reaction… 😣😑😢 I am so beside myself. HELP!! 😩

[@Ren_coaching]

Consider investing in support - a natural (and wholistic) health practitioner who is equipped to take your full history and symptoms into account in designing a personalized plan for you. A complex and chronic issue won’t be solved overnight or with a single supplement, or on a comment feed, but healing is possible - it’s a journey. 💕

[@leannshort2211]

@@Ren_coaching Thank you. I already have tried functional medicine and Naturopathy. I’m in New England where supposedly some of the best care in the world, or at least this country. All the Naturopath wanted to do was “stack” supplements, like I’ve got the money tree in my back yard…. Then he wanted to do LDA,(low dose allergy immunotherapy). That didn’t work either. I know it will be a journey, I’ve already been on it for 3 years. GAPS nearly killed me and probably made my condition worse. This MCAS is SO bad tho that I need relief in the meantime, or I’m not gonna make it through this journey. Nobody understands how debilitating this is for me. I know there is no quick fix, but some relief would be most welcome!! Thank you ❤️

[@Ren_coaching]

⁠@@leannshort2211 yes, it can be challenging finding the “right’ person. But it sounds like you could use some support not just physically but with all of the pillars, and I hope you will keep searching, following your guidance and discernment. 💕 🙏

[@leannshort2211]

@@Ren_coaching Thank you! 😊

[@happychappylife4283]

Find a integrated natural Dr in your country

[@newsdropz5361]

And is being in ketosis, and using ketones for brain fuel, not important anymore?

[@CarisaRae]

❤❤❤❤

[@gratitude2880]

Kids should NEVER be lifting weights. O one agog kid until their bones are solid & no longer growing. I forget the professional lay who spoke about this in a pidcast

[@loot6]

That logo that spins through the entire video is somewhat distracting.

[@soofitnsexy]

but cute

[@loot6]

@@soofitnsexy It would be if it didn't move. Let's just leave the people in the video to do the moving.

[@FrostyBud777]

[@foxiefair123]

Is there a good reason why women are expected to be ridiculously thin?

[@soofitnsexy]

yes the gays in fashion started this decades ago...look into this

[@MartaSpendowska]

A weak underweight woman will have trouble to conceive. The agenda …