Structural Engineer vs Architect - Design Meeting

[@30by40]

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[@maurocerino5600]

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[@agn855]

[OT] Hi Eric, found your channel yesterday, and while binge-watching it, went curious about your surname and Norwegian heritage. So here we go ... "Reinhold last name definition: Reinhold, Reinholdt often, more popular in the Middle Ages than Reinhard and Reinher, is the Germanic personal name Ragin-wald (Regin-old, Reinolt) "managing with wise advice". (Bahlow, Our First Names, page 85). Re-interpretation of -old to -hold only in the 16th century." IMHO, that sounds like a perfect match :o) Greetings from Frankfurt/Main, Germany (AKA "Mainhattan": www.skyline-frankfurt.com/), home of the DAM: dam-online.de/en/ ... (10min from the airport) where you can find, kinda coincidentally, an exhibition about Norwegian architecture until the 19th of January 2020 ... or this: dam-online.de/en/collections/dam-collection/ [/OT]

[@manny3549]

Hello! Love your videos! Can you tell me what software do you use for video editing?

[@issamsaadaoui3957]

Architecture in our country we are studying lessons about resistance, materials, concrete, physics, and soil mechanics, whether or not you are in your country

[@bolztyle]

this engineer is very well spoken it’s mind blowing how he keeps someone engaged and interested a conversation about construction

[@luissorsini]

He's a natural. I wouldn't be surprised if he seduced his now wife by talking her into his new costruction project during their first date.

[@pillarshipempireemployee0142]

Construction isn't any harder to keep someone interested than other topics.

[@fritzlauren7991]

@@luissorsini lmaoo

[@arcachata4137]

So construction's boring?

[@prashantjamloki]

Engineers are always mind blowing.😀

[@christianboran4466]

At my old firm, our structural engineer was 82 and still sharp as a tack. He worked on the original WTC and countless other impressive projects. Those meetings with him were by far the best because you're the one that now has to sit, listen, and learn. He would calmly look over the architecturals and bust out his calculator and start pumping out calculation after calculation, sizing beams and joists and always making sure that his structurals wouldn't interfere with our designs. RIP Franz

[@ModernMountainLiving]

Great Legacy

[@CrankyHermit]

Franz no doubt had some fascinating opinions with regard to the potential for burning jet fuel to compromise and weaken a massive steel structure (two of them) specifically over-engineered to withstand several such incidents simultaneously.

[@Pleiodes]

was he german? I think i heard about him...

[@mrfeeney6213]

That’s sad 😞 rip

[@bp3351]

Christian Boran is there job in architecture?I've a Bsc in Biology but i've n ever been fascinated by this field and i'd like to work as an architect ,carrying out projects and seeing my ideal design coming to life. Is this a romantic conception of architecture? Would you suggest me to start studying architecture? I'm from Italy

[@pmhernane3903]

The words every architect would love to hear from engineers: "We'll make it work " #teamwork

[@lars7935]

The words every engineer wants to hear from architects: "Yeah that makes sense. Let's do it that way." In the end it's about finding a good middle ground.

[@kylelucien7632]

Not when you think a floor can flood in the air or a piece of glass can brace its own.

[@asylumDAYS]

Invert that part, thé chickend is not first than egg you need a architec Project to make thé calculation but if you can work in a project in 0 together could be better

[@Fetecheney]

@@lars7935 Even more complicated is making sure labor can build it and the client can pay for it. It's nice to see the Architect here acknowledge regularly simplicity of build and sensitivity to cost. So fun to watch

[@Otoskire]

Im sure it comes with the paygrade

[@adilmuhammad765]

The architect is the dreamer and the engineer is the genie making his wishes come true

[@nangselbhuti6828]

Aladdin movie👨🕌🐒✨🔮

[@Mrwinterherz]

engineer need to fallow the dream because they dont dream👨✨

[@Cristian-zp5yy]

It's a saying, every architect dream is a nightmare for the engineer. Still a great architect and a great engineer can build and plan wonderful works.

[@Archontechnica]

No thats not even close to being true. The architect is usually the one saying telling the engineer that he has to find a cheaper solution because there isn't money in the budget.

[@haslynmayonn6346]

Guys yall look down too much on architects.. .

[@Tamshea88]

It's nice to see a video talking more about the structural aspects of buildings for a change. It would be nice to see some more of your videos on your thought process of structural designs.

[@artemplatesales]

yes maybe some collaboration with other design allieds that would be super awesome

[@joshuaknudsen1166]

Completely agree! Its nice to see something so practically informative.

[@jcbxci651]

Just adding another like so it won't stay at 666. 😌 Kidding. The engineer is pretty impressive.

[@chrisbullock3504]

as a college junior in civil engineering this is such a cool conversation to watch

[@maxrybold1531]

so Statics is useful after all... (lol)

[@brandonf2163]

@@maxrybold1531 if you couldn't tell statics was useful when you took the class, you're an idiot. Not only that, statics is one of the easier courses at most engineering schools.

[@aketchupman5103]

BrandonF216 statics was very hard for me, the reason I decided to focus on the transportation side of civil

[@maxrybold1531]

@BrandonF216 Ok understanding the theory behind forces and how they act in R^3 is very practical; the M_0, F_Rxn, M_i, etc. And your bluffing if you think static is easy. Ok maybe the first half of the questions at the end of each chapter, yet there are some pretty challenging ones. Also I was sarcastically speaking 😆

[@brandonf2163]

@@maxrybold1531 relative to some of the other courses taken, statics is pretty easy. I'm talking thermo, fluids, circuits, dynamics, materials etc

[@civilmix]

(Good Engineer + Good Architect) = Perfect Design 😍

[@30by40]

well said!

[@esojabuc2151]

Nice one sir sad to say here in the Philippines poor practice of profession

[@komentor1993]

@@esojabuc2151 true sir, pangit ang sistema, they dont value schematics

[@esojabuc2151]

@@komentor1993 yes sir sna they educate the true value for each profession na dpat nag start palang sa school sa mga aspiring professional

[@duckaroo9080]

Its so nice having a sibling or close people that can make your dream home come true. Btw im a student pusuing either engineering or architecture i will take soon in collage.

[@dmontenegro]

As an aspiring structural engineer, I have to say this is one of my favorite videos of @30X40 Design Workshop! This engineer is so well spoken and the visuals help explain the details discussed in this meeting.

[@30by40]

Cheers!

[@BigDawwwg101]

@@30by40 please create more content like this. Long form, detailed - setting the conversational bar

[@Nickgowans]

Construction is an interesting industry. It's easy to see an architect as the master designer and be-all and say-all of a project. But there is a definite pecking order which everyone getting into the industry should understand... An architect designs a building to look nice, they make the pretty pictures and decide where the doors go and essentially sell the project to a client, they will have final say on anything as they are essentially taking responsibility for the design of a project. The main contractor (general contractor in the US) is the company/person paid by the client to build the project which has been envisioned by the architect. They are ultimately the top dog, they are the ones spending the clients budget to make the project a reality, if they can deliver under budget then they make more money, if costs spiral then they lose money or have to beg the client for more. The actual extent of works that a main contractor will carry out themselves depends on their abilities. The engineer liases with both the architect and the main contractor as well as relevant sub contractors to figure out what is actually required to make the thing not fall down and kill someone or that the building doesn't fail in slightly less important ways. They have to do this for the lowest possible costs otherwise the main contractor will not be happy. If they massively over engineer things, the main contractor will lose money, if they under engineer things, the building and lives may be at risk. Subcontractors work for the main contractor and perform smaller elements of the main project, their works are typically much more specialised such as glazed and cladded facades, elevators, modular building elements, even down to steelworks, concrete works, balconies, canopies, rooflights, mechanical and electrical elements, security consultants, environmental impact contractors as well as about 30 other trades and specialists. I work as a designer for a facade contractor, we design a solution to try to meet the specification of both the architect and engineer while maintaining the requirements (in cost and performance) set out by the main contractor. Finally you have the boots on the ground, the people actually constructing the building. They have to work at a level of detail which is almost impossible to appreciate in paper right up until the highest detail of 3d models. They are the ones who realise that the opening cupboard door is clashing on the side of an oven. Or that a cladding panel is 3mm too short resulting in an excessive gap around an opening or that an EPDM seal is not sufficient in the corner of a curtain walking screen. Construction is only possible because everyone works to their strengths.

[@JungleBytes]

This was an amazing read, thank you!

[@jandtlivinglife3130]

Excellent description. The cabinetmakers need more mention though. Maybe a few paragraphs outlining how great they are and how they make the architect look like a hero. Also you could mention that most cabinetmakers are incredibly handsome and the owners love to hang around them. Basically, without cabinetmakers the whole construction industry would crash and burn. I'm not biased, of course. Just sayin'. Peace, from Canada.

[@LynerxAurica]

Can't like this twice, so i'll just comment to testify this as true. I used to work in the main contractor and being in the engineering division was one hell of a challange as you'll seriously need to contact the architect often times about microdesigns of the building and solve it together. Sometimes it's not even about the design, it's just that it couldn't be as ideal as drawn and we got to compromise.

[@eascon3693]

Very well said..😍😁

[@nmangali107]

Uhm... I don't know much about how the industry works on your side of the world, but I see you don't mentioning a Quantity Surveyor... even the American shows on cable TV about renovation and stuff I never see them Consulting with a Quantity Surveyor. How come that is?

[@tauser10]

I’m in my third year of architecture school and I have always wondered how a conversation and negotiation between a structural engineer and an architect would be played out. This is very helpful. If you could, im sure many future architects would appreciate future conversations between you two again. Just thank you!

[@Khalil-zn8nb]

I first watched this video when I was still in high school, confused on what to study in college, whether structural engineering or architecture. I did not understand anything way back then. Now that I am a first year college studying structural engineering, I'm happy to understand their conversation even just a little. 5 years from now, hopefully when I graduate, I'll comeback here and try to understand this completely.

[@lunagregoria8827]

I have never seen a duo of educated men talk so respectfully and collaborate this well with one another. There was no power tripping or ego, just communication and solutions. Incredible!

[@ryankeeping7476]

This is my industry and how the vast majority of our conversations go. That's why I can't understand why people get so emotionally attached their ideas. They're just ideas. What you should want is the best solution and so, you should want everyone to put their best ideas up for consideration. Being attached to your own ideas just makes everything difficult. People won't want to collaborate with you, and your solutions will be sub-optimal. See also: the current state of our world.

[@asylumDAYS]

Thats so cool rigth?

[@itsthat8496]

This doesn’t surprise me at all. My industry is the same way. Seems to me technical consultations amongst most professionals run this way. But I guess the primary commenter has a different experience.

[@neotradnous]

One of the greatest videos I’ve seen on KZbin in a while

[@AlrebeccaBarenboum]

YOU ABS RIGHT, I LOVE IT!!!!!

[@RobertoLicardie]

This video makes me realize that I need to get better at speaking cohesively and professionally while keeping cool. Oof.

[@erictko85]

Yep, people skills and good communication are key to so much.

[@srk0126]

Coherently^ no hate, just helping you out brother :)

[@Julian-we6qg]

what do you mean by keeping cool

[@purerage7963]

@@Julian-we6qg Being persuasive (convincing the architect that something needs to be changed to be structurally allowable) without being antagonizing, I suppose.

[@lovemyself9827]

Same i felt that

[@levinascimento7361]

I watched this video 1 year ago for the first time because I was going to an interview in a structural design office. Here I am again, after a bit of experience in practice, I'm happy to understand better their conversation! That would be great to have more of those interactions between arch and engineers professionals!

[@aarond9563]

THIS IS FASCINATING! You guys speak so patiently and thoroughly. I can imagine this meeting was hours long, if not, at least an hour. There is no interrupting or impatience at all it seems. I can't WAIT to see the final product.

[@billmoran3812]

Having spent many years as a consulting engineer, I think this was a good demonstration of a typical meeting between an architect and engineer. Also, the engineer’s response to “is this really necessary?” was excellent. It’s not just a matter of will the building fall down if lesser materials and methods are used. It’s about the level of quality and performance that is achieved.

[@oneofonedesign4178]

Young and upcoming architects, this is perhaps one of the most valuable videos on youtube. I remember in our first year of architecture school they taught us to scrunch up a piece of paper and draw inspiration from it. Well as an architect, structure and how the building will be built and supported should always be in the back of your mind as you design.

[@mluby7828]

21:21 "If it's been built a million times, you don't need a structural engineer. But once there's something unique about the design, that's when professionals get brought in."

[@adityadeshmukh6426]

Also you need a P. E. stamp on your final engineering design.

[@michaelacheampong2869]

@@adityadeshmukh6426 if it has been built a millions times it doesn't matter every site has unique characteristics, you can't pick drawings from one site and transpose it on a different site. Take foundation for instance would you propose the same foundation for different site with different soil characteristics and Bearing Capacity. What protection would you provide to mitigate dampening etc. If the lot you are building is such that you need to build close it a wall or fence and the footing needs to be designed differently , think about the eccentric loading situations etc. Environmental conditions like wind, seismic... Do both sites have the same characteristics.. Definitely not. Always employ a professional.

[@chandy3859]

@@michaelacheampong2869 i thought the foundation is part of the design. If the foundation design is unique because of a unique environment then you need to bring a professional.

[@michaelacheampong2869]

@@chandy3859 I never claim the foundation isn't part of the design. The foundation is always unique two sites are never the same. Would you use the same foundation for an area that has a high water table and one which doesn't.

[@michaelacheampong2869]

@@chandy3859 Yes it is part of the design.

[@WW-what]

What a premium service that an engineer can sit face to face and discuss in such a thorough manner!

[@crispschr]

The effort put in this channel is amazing, as an architecture student it makes me feel that I choose the right path.

[@nfaller89]

Wait till you get to work with a great engineer. It will make you sing...

[@cams.3287]

what should i major in to persue architecture

[@LuiZ-jy1pi]

ahhh I see... so this is what engineers do... (I have an engineer degree, and apparently, I learned nothing.)

[@JRArrezaLilDancerBoy]

Hate to admit it but i learned fairly lot here in youtube than most of my class.

[@AkhiDeia]

@Sumaya Ben Saad if I you are creative, the design aspects would come naturally to you. You wouldn't learn to think on top your head like in this video in structural engineering but structural engineering knowledge would give useful knowledge of how your architectural design is being considered from structural point of view and wether if it's compliant with the law and design codes in the respective country. Be prepared it's long and sometimes tiresome calculations, however if you combine your knowledge of architectural, structural and some softwares' knowledge like AutoCAD and Revit then you will be a very well rounded person

[@LeeMaitland]

You should remember that this engineer probably has years of experience in this specific field of structural engineering, years of conversing with architects about similar projects. It's impressive to watch professionals who are good at what they do, something to aspire to perhaps.

[@yz9236]

@Sumaya Ben Saad Hi I'm in similar situation. I would argue design is creativity focused but def need a long term training by mentors not just by yourself. Structural engineering is very helpful to architectural design but they don't equal to each other. I reckon structural engineer requires high attention to details and maybe less creativity, maybe. Architects might have to deal with clients in a more personal way, as designers we learn what the clients want and present and persuade the general public our ideas. Go with what you love or what your personality are like. Think about what the job is like.

[@haseebazhar7846]

Same here bro

[@dawo330]

As a technical drafter who's aspiring to be an architect, this actually just became one of my all-time favorite videos. I've always respected and have had interest in structural engineering emphasizing my deep interest in the powerful relationship between architects and engineers (even regarding the banter and headbutting between both fields at times lol) This kind of relationship and collaboration is legitimately what initates the creation and manifestation of unique structural spaces that impact multitudes of lives each and every day. I felt like an intern student who got an opportunity to sit and witness two masters collaberate lol Awesome work truly!

[@gsaarchitecturalmechanical5872]

Darius Worrell . Great informative video. I am also a draftsman who is trying to work my way up, I like both architecture and structural engineering, a friend of mine who is an architect encourage me to do both.

[@deliman7203]

Yes one of may favourite Architects/Engineers is Santiago Calatrava.

[@FrVitoBe]

1 thing i would fear is this doesnt happen veary often or more like these type of jobs are very limited, i as a drafter get to go to some meetings and they mostly dont go to this level of detail and discussion. this project also doesnt look like the average project?

[@dyu8184]

Calatrava's designs are epic but only if you want to go over a million times over budget. That is something that isn't thought in school.

[@justanopinion3588]

Im a mechanical engineer and this vide is just soooo interesting!

[@Nitric_Beyond]

This video simply proves that you need great communication and listening skills. This is important for most of the engineer jobs.

[@robertsmithdesignllc4623]

Every job and project I produce is fully engineered. It's a very integral part of the design | build process. Many times they request changes to a design to make engineering more cost efficient, and it's a dance that we do back and forth to achieve the vision of the design and how its built, without either having to compromise. Great video.

[@30by40]

100% agree...a difficult dance to learn, it's always different...! thanks for your comment and for watching...

[@adetunjiokanlawon8671]

@@30by40 this video is spectacular. Your video editing is quite cinematic, and I mean that as a good thing. The improvements you've consistently made, have not gone unnoticed. At some points, I actually had to stop myself from focusing on how good the editing is, and pay attention to the discussion. The discussion was also very interesting.

[@JohnSmith-bv3bn]

I'm an architecture student and this video should be part of the curriculum. A window into a real meeting between professionals is such a rare thing to get to witness.

[@pratamahrs]

I love how you show the discussion between the gap in Structural Engineer and Architect in designing a building. There's so much consideration in a project. The good communication is the key to achieve the sustainable design. This is an example to show that every engineers and architects should cooperate and not be stubborn about something. Keep up the good work! Love the video though

[@leo_olive]

This is one of the best videos I have watched in 2019. As someone involved with buildings design I extremely value the importance of the interaction between the professionals for good end results.

[@Rombitek]

As a Civil Engineering Graduate I am really inspired by the way these two professionals conduct themselves, and most importantly the great work that they are doing. Keep it up !!

[@carlosleon8897]

As a student, these types of videos are extremely useful for how to problem solve issues and find solutions with others, and bounce ideas. Love it.

[@joshuaknudsen1166]

I can't say how awesome these videos are! I'm currently getting an associates degree in Architectural Engineering and Building Sciences... It's super cool to see a professional interaction at this stage of the process. Super informative and interesting to watch video! Well done!

[@ash-zm7ol]

yo! i'm thinking of majoring in architectural engineering. how is it? is it worth studying?

[@Tamshea88]

@@ash-zm7ol I can't speak on what it's like to be an engineering student, my degree is in Drafting & Design Technology, but speaking as a draft designer, learning how to read structural sections and plans are definitely worth it. It's like having the ability to see through houses almost. That was one of the biggest hurdles to overcome when I got employed at my current firm. I think Eric actually has a structural section book somewhere in his list.

[@joshuaknudsen1166]

@@ash-zm7ol it's like solving a really really big puzzle. It's so big since there are so many aspects to the design process. Currently it's just a tidal wave of information I was previously ignorant of!

[@joshuaknudsen1166]

@HeatEnd it's a 2 year degree designed to get people ready for a specific career quickly. I might get my bachelors afterwards.

[@LiztasticGames]

Nice! I’m almost done with getting my civil (structural) engineering bachelors. I love this stuff! Keep at it and good luck

[@frfr335]

Hi, I'm a recent subscriber to your channel and as an experienced UK architect, I must say how impressed I was with this video. The clear and articulate explanation your engineer gave as to how, when and why an engineer can be crucial to a project was really excellent. He was also a much better sketcher than pretty much every other engineer - and a lot of architects - I've encountered over the last 30 years! You both exemplify the spirit of collaboration and care for the finished product, demonstrating exactly how a building should be designed. The high production values you have in the videos is also refreshing and must take a considerable amount of time to achieve. Cheers for this and keep up the fantastic work, Fraser

[@AleksPirok]

Eric, I'm an architect in UK, and this video is pure gold! Thanks so much for sharing, its rear to see this sort of live interaction between design team members unless you are in a meeting yourself. Also I like how articulate the engineer is - many aren't! He also should have a KZbin channel!

[@nocatch700]

We could only wish that every structural engineer is as knowledgeable as this guy. Not just technical knowledge but his experience and knowledge of the locality is impressive!

[@nokia8574]

This is a very bright Engineer who knows how to explain hus work well. So grateful to you

[@BrownNProud112]

i come back and watch this video every now and again. I watched it when I was in college, during my first year of engineering, and again now in my fourth year. I always learn something different each time

[@scienceisgod1]

I love working with my struct. engineer! I learn something from him on every project and of course - I think he has learned from me.

[@corydaboss]

As a studying third-year architectural technologist, we are subjugated to a plethora of design variables. It seems we become a coordinator of disciplines. Seeing this conversation happen on the ominous "other side" of the architectural realm warms my heart to know that even 'designer-centric' architects are still cognizant and resourceful in facing these sorts of design problems. Both of you guys are excellent at your jobs, and even though in Canada we build primarily for a warming environment, there are still similar design philosophies about repeatable construction / durability and costing that carry the design forward. In the discipline of construction as a whole, all need each other at some point or another and it's neat to see a glimpse of how it works outside the classroom. Thank you for documenting your fabulous work - it serves as a huge inspiration to many. :)

[@LordGoblinIV]

I'm an Archiectural Technology student from the UK so this was absolutely fascinating for me to watch, keep up the great work, your work never ceases to inspire me

[@karl5428]

AT student from Canada here hope for all the best in your studies!

[@LordGoblinIV]

@@karl5428 aw thanks, you too!

[@hrishikeshkalshetti7299]

Structural Engineering student from india.... It's fascinating to meet people of same background.... We should ake our own community

[@ValenN123]

@@hrishikeshkalshetti7299 is there enough design and modelling in this type of degree or is it just maths

[@ValenN123]

Are not worried about getting a job coming out of university ? Because After research i feel if I do architecture I may struggle to get a well paid job

[@irfanzahid4643]

exactly what was needed. I am a fashion designer and subscriber of 30x40 for the last almost four years, I love to see the amount of information, cinematic filming, and all aspects of architectural design coming from your side in beautiful manner. many thanks

[@stephenbent701]

As an architect myself, this conversation is very engaging and I appreciate the structural engineer's knowledge and collaboration. I could watch interactions like this all day! (because it's what I deal with all day everyday)

[@billyjosh9462]

Stephen Bent siiiicckkk

[@samjackedie]

3 minutes in and initial reaction is that this video is gorgeous. You consistently level up with each effort. Much appreciated.

[@danielreese6185]

Thank you for putting such an in depth look into a day in the actual work life of engineers and architects! It is extremely helpful for those considering different career options, such as myself.

[@anibaltv845]

I’m 3rd year architectural civil engineering, and this video puts a smile on my face, lets me know I actually love my career

[@billyjosh9462]

AnibalTV @

[@imadasmone8915]

It was worth the wait.. Over here, contractors question the need of an architect more than questioning an engineer.. Well presented and Albert's explanations are easily understandable.. Thanks for sharing something new..

[@tulipalonso7630]

I am a senior in architectural engineering in a fast track program to do masters in structures and applied mechanics. This was probably the most interesting video i've seen that describes the difference between an architect and an engineer. I'm constantly having to explain to family and friends the difference between them. Next time anyone asks me, I'll just link them to this video.

[@ValenN123]

So you do architectural engineering, what’s that like? Is it basically structural engineering?

[@chakra_x]

fun fact: you didn't search for this but you actually stayed and watch

[@BuceGar]

@@kolomonsane9013 20 min here, but it was mildly interesting.

[@kanevenkat8588]

i did, i've been watching this process for a while

[@martymaloney1032]

I wasn’t looking but I do need a structural Engineer soon so it was very informative.

[@alexnelson8]

I searched for it...

[@nikolastavric2409]

Lol so true

[@TravisThompson10]

Good communicative engineer that allows an architect to know what their theory is efficiently... that's a good engineer.... from an engineer.

[@alexistoledo4608]

This video was an experience! I was so intrigued throughout the entire video, especially as someone who just finished school for Archictural Technology and Drafting. Thank you for this!

[@erikavelasco9010]

Interesting... I'm doing my plate while watching this video, and it's really therapheutic to listen to professionals who understands and respect each others job.

[@nireshbehari8333]

I miss design review meetings. Regardless of the engineering disciplines, the engineering design review sessions are still an awesome experience.

[@tarond57]

First respectful discussion between a structural engineer and an architect I've ever witnessed

[@kayraalvarez4013]

As an interior design student im really happy I understand what is happening and I strive to be this professional and cool.

[@DrCornbread]

I'm an architecture student and watching this got me so excited and inspired.

[@barrystott-brookes5883]

I love this video, I hope some of your clients get to see the effort that goes into the background of design and how the dialog between the different services come together to form the project. Anyone that wants to show the true value in what we all do in the construction profession then refer them to this video. And so true of builder of hand comments and then soon back track when they are out of their depth and then don’t perform later.

[@barythompson4781]

This is a great video! The discussion of the structural viewpoint isn’t the most glamorous part of a project but it is one of the most important aspects. I received an AAS degree in Drafting and design in 1984 and went to work for one of the few places hiring at that dry time, a structural and pre-Engineered building company. In 35 years I’ve learned the correct ways to design and implement things and I’ve learned the “not so correct” way to design and implement things. The structural engineer and the architect in this video are absolutely going about this design in the correct way. I wish I could have every iron worker, erector, general contractor and end customer watch this video from the 18 minute point on! Well done!

[@atanke07]

that's so awesome, very enlightening. Structure engineers should be best friends with architects to have such open and meaningful discussions.

[@JRodizAwesome]

This is very interesting to watch. In architecture school, studio is always the priority, but this shows how important a structures class is. Sure, the engineer will take care of most of the structure, but as a designer, you still want to understand the conversation and add input.

[@Lady_Aberd]

It's refreshing to see structural engineering being highlighted in an architectural design video. I think most people don't realize how crucial it is to have an engineer involved in the process. You can't just have a pretty house that will only last for a year or two. And yes, you can always size building elements yourself but will it be enough to make the building safe and be cost-efficient at the same time. I've talked too much. 😂

[@leonkennedy3742]

Love to see person putting hes heart to hes art, in my country most people get degree on things they hate and do their job very poorly

[@pureconfuzion]

where are you from? Because same here

[@leonkennedy3742]

@@pureconfuzion Republic of Georgia, I hate this country, I feel like I don't belong here but can't leave because of family business already 26 years I live in country I hate, how about you my friend ?

[@TheErmerm999]

I’m so annoyed that I can’t go subscribe to this amazing structural engineer who is doing what I want to do he is my dream job

[@zaerrius6939]

as an aspiring architect, this was the most entertaining, interesting, and fun thing to watch and experience cannot wait until i can achieve this and do this with someone.

[@achillemeyvis7890]

Must be quite fun for the clients to watch how their project develops step by step. Kind of the behind the scenes of their house. Nice video btw interesting to see what goes into constructing the house.

[@jf8461]

Many years ago I began studying architecture, because I loved it. But I found that most courses didn't explain to my satisfaction WHAT could actually be built, and WHY structures and load members did what they did. So then I switched majors to Engineering. I now have worked many years as an engineer (soon retiring), but my love of architecture has not diminished. Which is why I'm here. Great video!

[@chennachua6978]

Looking at them, make me realized that i learned nothing in my college life and far away to be called professional or even a junior architect! Nice video! Love to see the 'world' in works, waiting for ur next video!

[@simonashworth2820]

Great conversation educating the public. I’m a Architectural Designer with my own practice in the UK and work with great engineers. This was right on point and clearly explained. The design details on a project are my favourite part of the work. Well done 30 X 40

[@lucaviglierchio1810]

Saw that Peter Zumthor is one of your reference, I love how he cure the details. Compose poetry with material concistency. Really like your video from Italy. I'm a student and I love your dimension of architecture; not big studios, but take your time to think and create humble and tangible architecture.

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[@tomcologner1943]

You know where’s the point that you inspire me? Your ability to find the time to meet customers, design process, rethinking process plus tons of time for your KZbin channel. Honestly that’s a lot to handle. We all have our own way to practice architecture. Time consuming matter for me is endless consultations, eventually changes in design...not to mention your own fam time and relax. Hands down and respect 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@30by40]

Hi, Tom...I so appreciate the support and kind words! As the channel has grown the amount of hate-filled criticism, personal attacks and negative feedback I've received has increased to the point where it's made me question what I'm doing and ultimately made me want to create less. Seeing your comment reminds me of who I'm actually making things for...so, thank you!

[@tomcologner1943]

30X40 Design Workshop don’t even think of quitting 😂 there’s plenty of ppl like me who deeply appreciate your hard work. Keep up the good work and keep inspiring 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@shafayat1004]

Here I am, a new physics major, unhappy with my studies, thinking of shifting to either Archi or Civil Engineering soon. This video helps a lot. thanks.

[@MrEbhartley]

This guy has a substantial amount of experience, years to be exact

[@anibaltv845]

@@MrEbhartley decades... and I can tell he saw the plans days or weeks prior the meeting, and came prepared, no one can come up with all of that on the spot, you need to be a genious

[@lolollolol5654]

go archi civil is crap

[@1993keki1]

This video is brilliant. I am a civil engineer who works in construction, and I have been passionate about architecture since I was a little kid. I am so happy I came across this!

[@bjo179]

I enjoyed this immensely... I also looked at my Steel Manual and it is the seventh edition....regrettably I haven't practiced structural engineering since a couple of years out of school.

[@Balem_C]

As an architecture student in a country in which the market to practice it in have grown more and more through the years. Your videos have inspired and helped me to help my self fit in the community. Thank you for being you!

[@eduardocastillo6048]

woow, these videos really inspire me a lot to continue studying Civil Engineering at UNAM

[@juliandavidac]

There is a single thing i just can't understand, why most of the architects, don't pre-design the structure is a fundamental part of the project, not detailed one, but at leats the type of structure, the materials, the distances between columns and beams. I'm architect as well, i always make this, and the structural engineer work with that, and he thanks me a lot, because we gain a lot of time and you can handle the details and never miss the central point/meaning of the project. In that order, this video is amazing, great content

[@babaengwalangtadyang7174]

As a civil eng'ng student. I love the argument. The strictural engr scope of work are is mostly doing all the math calculations of the structure. While archetech's work mostly goes to the actual facade of the sructure. The space and function of each room and design shapes and whatnot. Engr check the design if are workable and the archt sees through it that the building planned can be done. In the end by working together can the job be well done. Coz you know. Two heads are better than one.

[@Neeeeee3l]

They are arguing?? 😅

[@realboy24]

I was reading for my structural design unit and it was so frustrating honestly and i began doubting myself but now that i see how professional it can get....ive gotten the inspiration to want to be the best at what i do

[@Vinxi]

This was so professionally pleasing.

[@ImbaNaga]

This conversation has more to offer than "just" the actual topic. Great to see that two people with two different professions (which often come in conflict) are able to just talk about it and realize they need each other. Sadly the "we always did it like this-mantra" is still so popular and people care more about their reputation and ego than accepting help/advice/suggestions from others.

[@papiwe1]

I feel honored to sit in on two great minds sharing.

[@SPINERbg]

I just started working in a bureau a year ago after 4 years of arch education and this meeting seems pretty accurate. I appreciate that the Architect let the SE talk and spitball. Good video!

[@jascrandom9855]

Architect: The Artists that dreams up ideas. Engineer: The person who has figure out how make them a reality.

[@dmtgallardo]

This meme has to die. In reality, both need each other.

[@armandtgardner1848]

Yeah, tell that to Frank Lloyd Wright when the Racine city engineers did not believe that his columns could hold up the Johnson building. Architect and Engineer were synonymous for a long time, it’s only quite recently that specialization lead to two distinct professions.

[@studionumberfive]

May i also add ... Jon Utzon the Architect behind the famous Sydney Opera House also worked out and convinced his team of engineers on how the roof of the building will hold up. Architects ain't just simply Artists with idea

[@lefikarock]

@@studionumberfive this doesn't really hold water, you explaining one side of the storey. I'm sure engineers had several reasons, amongst others liability in case of failure etc..

[@1mz0qpal]

@@lefikarock As a senior civil engineering student with my EIT I think the first comment is best. I would have fun with the stigma against the architects when I was a freshman but now think its idiotic. I always liked the idea of meeting in a room with professionals and brainstorming to work something out. Architects and engineers are both professionals and have careers most people are automatically impressed by. #stopthebashing

[@peanutlemon8354]

as an aspiring architecture student, it was very very helpful to see this sort of jargon and communication being used! thank you so much for your videos!!

[@larrydeem3071]

Regarding 18:12 ** “This feels over-engineered” - I would add that buildings seldom experience full design loads but when they do you want them to stay up. So it is easy to look at building 20 or 30 years old that has never seen design wind load and assume it was built correctly (correct being capable of resisting design loads). Where in reality it may not survive design wind (or snow, seismic, etc.) event.

[@philiplacey5430]

I just binge watched about 10 of the 30 x 40 videos and this was the best. The engineer is wicked smart! Sometimes extreme competence is expressed so smoothly that it almost seems like a sales pitch. Well done.

[@josippoznic2362]

Structural Engineer here. Great video of how this meeting is supposed to look like. All said is completely true. but can't help wondering how it would look like if the building is just a bit more complex...say 4 storeys :) Sorry for the sarcasm, I can only dream of things running this smooth in real life.

[@yoshitam7975]

Super informative! Thank you so much for uploading this - for someone like me who is structural engineer with only a year of experience this is gold. And this engineer did such a great job in talking about it so smoothly with ease. Need more videos like this!

[@archcast5550]

I love how this ends Respect to the engineers! I have an awesome engineer here too our college professor and now he is my partner.

[@nickfzar]

Really great way to practically show how engineers and architects collaborate on a project. It's not always clear to people who don't work in construction how exactly this goes down and who is responsible for what. Thanks for making this one, great content!

[@ThaLarsen]

Happy to see a positive meeting! I'm a structural engineer in Sweden and unfortunately, this type of exchange is very rare. It's usually a matter of defending territories.

[@jasoncarter2165]

I'm a land surveyor; and watching this conversation is an absolute clinic !

[@jasonfulcher204]

It can be hard for engineers and architects to work together especially when an engineer is trying to get a design to work while the architect is always wanting to improve the deign. I design site plans and it took a while for me to get use to working with architects and im sure the other way around as well. But when you have two that work well together an awesome and efficient design can be created.

[@jamier.5517]

Im neither of these professions and for some reason I still watched it. Pretty sure Im going to forget this after 5 minutes but thanks for keeping an entertaining perspective to all viewers.

[@arivaldodeoliveira5700]

You're one of my heroes, man. Such a professional.

[@innatelyhuman]

I found this video fascinating. I'm a third year engineering and architectural student at Bartlett, UCl; part of the first "guinea pig" class of this course. The goal is to combine architecture and engineering together so that the engineering decisions are inputted during the architectural design process directly instead of afterwards so seeing how it's traditionally done is a great perspective.

[@MatPicardal]

Great video! I practice structural engineering and even have my own KZbin structural engineering channel, I hope to do for the structural engineering industry what you've done for the architectural industry! Thanks for the inspiration!

[@RJeditors]

Oh hey Mat! Cool to see you here too. Your videos are awesome xd

[@30by40]

Hey @Mat Picardal good to (virtually) meet you...keep up the great work on your channel, I know how much work goes into making video content and really glad to see others in the design profession willing to share their voice. Cheers...

[@MatPicardal]

@@30by40 Thanks Eric, yes, definitely a lot of work, especially while working full-time as you know. Glad I can relate to someone in the AEC community. Have a great new year!

[@tulipalonso7630]

Mat!! You have awesome structural engineering videos! Great to see you here haha.

[@michaelacheampong2869]

I know your channel, definitely recommend it

[@FabioB1974]

I am a structural engineer. This video is a remarkable opportunity to learn. Great job and thanks.

[@MPANGA101]

listening to these two guys talk is amazing

[@YISUSPT]

That video remember me the work flow in my office. the structural engineer and me making the posible solution for the project. I loved the last part of this video. Thanks Erick.

[@Jamil1989]

This is amazing! Colaboration, the talk between peofessionals to reach an end goal is truly an experience. I don't know if I'm geeking out, but I think it's pretty cool. Have you done a video about talking to other Engineers, contractors, interior designers, etc.? That can be a great series on it's own. Of course, construction videos is another series, but you know ...😁. Yup, I think I geeked out a bit. Great chanel, Sir. Please do more. Cheers, and keep on rocking.