Struthers Methodist Church forced to shut its doors

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Struthers United Methodist Church forced to shut its doors on May 21
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@gone2fish956
@gone2fish956 Жыл бұрын
As hard as it is to lose a place of worship, a denomination and authorities can never destroy the spirit of service in a congregation. Take your service to the community under another name. You may find that the congregation will grow and be stronger than ever. God Bless!
@deloreswillis9224
@deloreswillis9224 Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿 amen
@bernlin2000
@bernlin2000 Жыл бұрын
The building might be gone...but the congregation will remain. The local bishop made a terrible mistake and will reap what he sows.
@davewil3
@davewil3 Жыл бұрын
The local church pays all the expenses to have purchased and operate the church. The denomination contributes nothing. But the denomination will now take possession of the church and sell it for their own gain.
@eldonhoward7925
@eldonhoward7925 Жыл бұрын
That is unfortunate.
@cdubb9781
@cdubb9781 Жыл бұрын
this is sad news for sure, yet, I believe your statement to be untrue. I speak honestly that I don't know all the details, yet if the local church truly owned the land and building, the denomination can not take possession of it. They would be free to easily go non-denomination or join another denomination if they so felt called.
@sinnersaved5981
@sinnersaved5981 Жыл бұрын
The UMC entered a trust clause. They trust their assets to the UMC conference. Our small church was required the pay 44k. Another local church was offered to buy their building back got 470k. The money covets the pastors pensions through 2091. It's crooked and a disgrace. It gets way deeper, but I'm not gonna text it all. we ended up leaving our UMC church, and it will probably close as well eventually.
@cdubb9781
@cdubb9781 Жыл бұрын
@@sinnersaved5981 but this has nothing to do with this situation, correct?
@dougobrien4877
@dougobrien4877 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a similar tactic that Watchtower uses. Taking over Kingdom Halls and selling them from under the congregation.
@priscillawolfe2194
@priscillawolfe2194 Жыл бұрын
Fortunately my sister’s church that disaffiliated from UMC is on the historical registry and was built by a family. People came from other churches that got closed and joined. My church is going through the process of disaffiliating. Almost 90% approved. On top of our cost to keep the church, it was hit by a hurricane last fall. With God’s help we can survive. In time this denomination will implode due to turning their backs on Christ, the groom and his church(people).
@ravenregards
@ravenregards Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the Methodist church. Two churches here disaffiliated several years ago and are doing well. The church my brother attends just voted 98% to disaffiliate. They had to get a lawyer and now must keep two sets of books to pay off the church which they actually locally paid for. The church my sister attends voted to also disaffiliate, but I don't know by what percentage. I left the Methodist Church years ago after being involved in some of their global missions and realized how the organization was extremely liberal even back then. It's like there are two churches under the umbrella. Most local Methodist churches here are still Bible-only based so it's just a matter of time before they all separate themselves.
@actionsub
@actionsub Жыл бұрын
@@ravenregards My wife and I said the heck with it and disaffiliated ourselves!
@ravenregards
@ravenregards Жыл бұрын
@@actionsub Yes, that's what I did too years ago.
@Ashs-mini-vlogs
@Ashs-mini-vlogs Жыл бұрын
I'm in the UK I'm preying this beautiful church is saved so it can continue to bring christ to the community may god bless this church
@sandasturner9529
@sandasturner9529 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@tedmartin5239
@tedmartin5239 Жыл бұрын
Churches in the UK are closing right and left also...
@kathleenmann7311
@kathleenmann7311 7 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏
@janrabie1890
@janrabie1890 Жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous! It is not a business. Even if there are just 10 people leftthe church should remain open.
@bernlin2000
@bernlin2000 Жыл бұрын
"Where two or more are gathered in my name, I am there"...this local bishop would be wise to remember the word of Jesus from the Gospel of Matthew!! Total betrayal of Methodist values, and this church had 20x the amount ascribed in the Gospels, absurd logic here!!
@edna-veronalatta1366
@edna-veronalatta1366 Жыл бұрын
My Prayers are with you!!!
@deloreswillis9224
@deloreswillis9224 Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@islauto
@islauto Жыл бұрын
This is happening all over the country...so sad! Lord help them!
@nuttybar9
@nuttybar9 Жыл бұрын
And the Bible predicted it.
@jdrake8738
@jdrake8738 Жыл бұрын
They want the money the building will bring . The denomination is breaking apart and they need money. God forbid human beings stand in the way
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 Жыл бұрын
Who buys closed churches, Muslims who want to turn them into mosques?
@alicel3992
@alicel3992 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking along those lines. But we must remember, The BODY of CHRIST Is not a building, it is the people. My heart breaks that you are losing your building but my heart rejoices in your SPIRIT. Don't let it die. Keep working for CHRIST, ppl need more than ever to see that.
@craftsmanctfl3493
@craftsmanctfl3493 Жыл бұрын
The building is probably worth nearly nothing. Not many organizations want to buy an aging, likely deteriorating church that is highly expensive to maintain on a monthly basis. The UMC is not benefiting financially from the closing of this church. Could the current dwindling membership afford to adequately pay the minister and staff as well as properly keep up the building? The main reason for church closings is that congregations getting smaller every year cannot afford to pay staff and building maintenance, utilities, etc. Financially stable churches do not close.
@jdrake8738
@jdrake8738 Жыл бұрын
@@craftsmanctfl3493 then why all the drama ... Let them go their way...
@thomastessier4529
@thomastessier4529 Жыл бұрын
If God wants the church to remain open it will be open.
@ohhoho5876
@ohhoho5876 Жыл бұрын
God wanted Adam&eve to stay faithful and obedient but it didn't happen that way. Don't think that it's all God's will just because it happens.
@auldzbuzz3374
@auldzbuzz3374 Жыл бұрын
God wants the leadeship of UMC to be faithful to Him but they embrace wokeism instead.
@justinamusyoka4986
@justinamusyoka4986 Жыл бұрын
This is the beginning of the end of Church era.The term Church was even UnBiblical,derived from a Latin word "Circe" the goddess of the underworld. Christianity need lots of reviewing from the pagan dogmas and doctrines that Rome invented.
@thomastessier4529
@thomastessier4529 Жыл бұрын
@@justinamusyoka4986 The true "church" is the body of Christ. They call buildings where people worship "churches" but, as I stated, the real "church" is the body of Christ and all the true believers and I also believe in non-denomination. There is one God and one "church" only.
@craftsmanctfl3493
@craftsmanctfl3493 Жыл бұрын
@@auldzbuzz3374 Christianity IS wokeism. Read Jesus’s teachings in the Sermon on the Mount.
@MYvesAllaire
@MYvesAllaire Жыл бұрын
@ 0:07 The End is Near - that has way more meaning than just the closing of this amazing church. Praying for a revival.
@Msfeathers7
@Msfeathers7 Жыл бұрын
You are so right! Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."
@cash1851
@cash1851 Жыл бұрын
I would be very surprised if there's a revival. That conflicts with the End is Near. America was the last Christian nation and it can't be if Jesus is to return. Keep your eyes on the Lord.
@Msfeathers7
@Msfeathers7 Жыл бұрын
@@cash1851 Correct! "Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,..." 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
@MYvesAllaire
@MYvesAllaire Жыл бұрын
@@cash1851 Lord Jesus please return soon.
@cash1851
@cash1851 Жыл бұрын
@@MYvesAllaire amen friend. Soon. Behold, Soon He is Coming ✝️
@angelap2964
@angelap2964 Жыл бұрын
God sees and hears EVERYTHING! Motive is everything! I pray in the Name of Christ Jesus that this House of God does not close!!! Stand strong! Stand firm in the Name of Christ Jesus!🙏🏾
@Msfeathers7
@Msfeathers7 Жыл бұрын
AMEN!
@jamesduck926
@jamesduck926 Жыл бұрын
Shut up.
@natashatomlinson4548
@natashatomlinson4548 Жыл бұрын
They want that property to sell. Duh
@davefoster543
@davefoster543 Жыл бұрын
A lot of talk about serving the community but no talk about serving God. We have plenty of Methodist Churches here in the UK that are closing too, all totally out of step with the Lord.
@jamesrecknor6752
@jamesrecknor6752 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly it, many have become social services instead of soul saving evangelizers.
@godislove8038
@godislove8038 Жыл бұрын
The Lord has been calling faithful Christians out to new places and ways of serving Him. It can be so painful to leave behind all you have known for new horizons. It is a beautiful church I hope it can remain a place of worship. There will be justice in the end.
@mcalexander94
@mcalexander94 Жыл бұрын
those pews look like works of art as does the rest of the building
@royveteto4134
@royveteto4134 Жыл бұрын
it's ironic that this DENOMINATION can choose which locations have to close but this same DENOMINATION doesn't give a rip about people going to hell for this DENOMINATION doesn't include the gospel
@rednekokie
@rednekokie Жыл бұрын
The United Methodist church has been disintegrating for some time now -- it is no longer United -- there are those who follow the old, outdated discipline book, and those who have grown into the 21st century, and that rift is causing all of this. It is really quite pitiful for both sides are too stubborn to reason with each other.
@chuckmoseley3771
@chuckmoseley3771 Жыл бұрын
Sad, my gg grandfather was a circuit rider horse back Methodist Preacher in North Carolina area and traveled with Frances Asbury on a few occasions. All this back in 1770's. Many Preacher's came from that side of the family. Their last name were Bird/Byrd
@joescleanpools01
@joescleanpools01 Жыл бұрын
The church is not a building; it’s its believing in the Word of God, people! God can and will use you mightily! Continue on for Jesus, He’s the reason, luvya!
@Charles-jg8dz
@Charles-jg8dz Жыл бұрын
The Church is not of brick and mortar but a body of believers wherever they meet
@davidhensley76
@davidhensley76 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could buy the church and donate it back to the congregation.
@ogtme
@ogtme Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@BORN-to-Run
@BORN-to-Run Жыл бұрын
THAT'S a bad OMEN when CHURCHES close. It almost says, "God is no longer with you."
@lesliegillmar5235
@lesliegillmar5235 Жыл бұрын
Open a house church on every block! You do not need a building or a denomination. Be as the early church, on fire for The LORD!!
@flatlander6928
@flatlander6928 Жыл бұрын
Jesus didn’t say go to church, He said to BE THE CHURCH. Jesus Christ IN YOU the hope of GLORY. God Bless you all immensely! 🙏
@jgesselberty
@jgesselberty Жыл бұрын
Apparently they are not sending enough money to the denomination. They need higher denomination currency, and they would have likely stayed open. When a denomination considers a small church, like this, a burden, instead of a blessing, they turn their backs on God.
@SusanA1056
@SusanA1056 Жыл бұрын
Our world is loosing it's Christianity. A sign of the end of days. Why can't somebody purchase the building & continue the services regardless of the decision?
@SteveOostdyk
@SteveOostdyk Жыл бұрын
You don't have to close. Leave the denomination and be independent.
@douglaswright5689
@douglaswright5689 Жыл бұрын
Same thing happened with our PCUSA church but our attending membership was really low, preacher retired, and we couldn't afford a new one. However a non- denominational group bought it, did some remodeling ,( it was in fairly decent shape already), and reopened it. They have had moderate success. But important thing is the building is not going to waste and is serving a Christian purpose!
@cash1851
@cash1851 Жыл бұрын
Operative word, 'group'...its a conglomerate gobbling up churches with a strategic business plan how to be profitable! I almost guarantee it. What other way to make lots of money TAX FREE? it's the same money changers that own the mega church. Did they get the church property for free or for little I wonder? The people don't know this. It's highly covert.
@hiker64
@hiker64 Жыл бұрын
Small churches are so important for the dozens of members who belong, many of whom have likely been there for generations. Not sure who owns the property but perhaps they can leave the Methodist church and continue doing their own thing. Organized denominations need committed members more than committed members need the denomination.
@actionsub
@actionsub Жыл бұрын
That is one of the major issues with disaffiliation: the local UMC Annual Conference owns the property; the congregation has no claim. The property of the closed church will no doubt be sold.
@4ANewLifeNow
@4ANewLifeNow Жыл бұрын
Why not buy the building from the denomination?
@marcybrooks3425
@marcybrooks3425 Жыл бұрын
I've known some other methodist churches who the denomination let leave and keep their building with just two years of their denominational fees. I'm wondering if they changed that policy because of the large number of churches leaving the denomination?
@fredhall5038
@fredhall5038 Жыл бұрын
It is sad to see churches close. However, by combining with another church in similar circumstances allows for twice the spiritual power. As ‘the Church’ we understand that it is people and not buildings that makeup the Body of Christ. Don’t forget your past but double down and create a new future.
@ChrisJones-ij3xp
@ChrisJones-ij3xp Жыл бұрын
So even with their sloppy-joe side hustle, they're deemed unworthy? Is their food truck still going to operate?
@gretchenmassenburg1063
@gretchenmassenburg1063 Жыл бұрын
Leave the UMC and call it another church name then the bishop has no say!
@Msfeathers7
@Msfeathers7 Жыл бұрын
So sorry. Many churches have small congregations. They seem to do more then the self centered rich churches! Prayers that Our Father will intervene. Keep your faith pastor.
@fredmckinney8933
@fredmckinney8933 Жыл бұрын
Part of why I'm not Methodist. The UMC has too much control over its churches -- this ain't right.
@klausmkl
@klausmkl Жыл бұрын
This is not a Church but a Social Group. Methodism has been apostate for quite some time. So a social group dissolves, big deal. It's been happening since the dawn of time.
@Landis_Grant
@Landis_Grant Жыл бұрын
A “dead” denomination ought to shut down!
@darylmulwane3430
@darylmulwane3430 Жыл бұрын
Of course, the methodist church needs the money.
@randywise5241
@randywise5241 Жыл бұрын
What kind of bishop closes churches? They not making enough off the offerings? If it is about money, than shame on the church officials.
@Vonnie777
@Vonnie777 Жыл бұрын
It's all in God's hands
@Woody.D828
@Woody.D828 Жыл бұрын
Wonder how much $$$ UMC org will get for selling the old building to become an event center someday.?
@jimdailey1985
@jimdailey1985 Жыл бұрын
Who has the keys to the building?
@JohnDoe-ot3zd
@JohnDoe-ot3zd Жыл бұрын
That's truely sad. People are going to regret not believing in God.
@tedmartin5239
@tedmartin5239 Жыл бұрын
Location????
@SWMOWoodsman
@SWMOWoodsman Жыл бұрын
"The United Methodist Church has deemed our church is not a vital church and necessary any further. We serve no purpose" Shame on the UMC. EVERY Church, Bible-preaching, that is, deserves to be left open whether or not any certain denomination says it should be or not. Every Bible-preaching and gospel-believing church plays a vital role and is necessary. Praying for a revival and change of hearts of the UMC. Its a House of God, not a retail chain.
@marcybrooks3425
@marcybrooks3425 Жыл бұрын
The UMC is one of the denominations going WOKE! Unfortunately most of their congregations signed over the property when they joined the UMC so the denomination owns it. Many churches just had to pay a fee, but I think the UMC decided they were losing too much money by allowing that.
@BulletproofPastor
@BulletproofPastor Жыл бұрын
Who says the “denomination bosses” own the church? Many church bodies have separated denominational ties. Legal wrangling over ownership of the building aside, the church is the body of members, not organizational “leaders.” This body may have claim to the property as well.
@marthaanderson2346
@marthaanderson2346 Жыл бұрын
God bless this church.
@geek49203
@geek49203 Жыл бұрын
If you read the contract that the churches have observed for, what, 100 years... it's clear that the denomination owns the building. Sorry. That's the contract, always has been.
@heinmadsen-leipoldt2341
@heinmadsen-leipoldt2341 Жыл бұрын
What a pity, it's such a beautiful church
@mvill9898
@mvill9898 Жыл бұрын
If I am a member of that congregation, I will rally the troop and rent a storefront and turn it into our place of worship. Buildings come and go, but the people are the living stones. Christ himself has said that God should be worshipped in Spirit and Truth, not in this mountain or that mountain.
@jgesselberty
@jgesselberty Жыл бұрын
The UMC has forgotten, where two or three are gathered in My name, I am there.
@DWBurns
@DWBurns Жыл бұрын
UMC went WOKE, my family and I took our Money elsewhere.
@davidmc1489
@davidmc1489 Жыл бұрын
Our church is smaller than this one...still open.....but i am leaving over the the lgbtq conundrum.
@dannyiselin
@dannyiselin Жыл бұрын
UMC ecclesiastical bureaucratic iron handedness should see justice in widespread disaffiliation from its grass roots congregations. Maybe its progre$$ive bi$hop$ will have to tighten their budgetary belt$ especially with membership attrition by old age and death.
@raypeters4525
@raypeters4525 Жыл бұрын
PEOPLE, PEOPLE ! THE CHURCH IS NOT A BUILDING, IT IS WITHIN THE HEARTS OF THE MEMBERS THAT ARE CALLED OUT BY GOD'S WORD, THE BIBLE ! WHERE TWO OR MORE ARE GATHERED, THERE AM I ALSO ! LOOK IT UP !
@peruseperusing5027
@peruseperusing5027 Жыл бұрын
God bless you all for your love and service to your community. Remember....... You Are The Church, the building is not. I pray that God will provide for His remnant. :) :) :)
@cherylsemrau7100
@cherylsemrau7100 Жыл бұрын
So sad. I wouldn't listen to a bishop. Keep on meeting. God is the head of the church.
@slmmbarnes
@slmmbarnes Жыл бұрын
The Bishop????? I'm deciding that UMC would do better without conferences and bishops. What a shame - this about says it all about UMC..
@news_internationale2035
@news_internationale2035 Жыл бұрын
Join a denomination that is more interested in believing in God such as the ACNA or Global Methodist Church.
@virginiashroyer2279
@virginiashroyer2279 Жыл бұрын
Try to find a way without being connected to the hierarchy. You don’t need it to serve Jesus! You don’t even need to be a Methodist.
@Amen.22
@Amen.22 Жыл бұрын
There is a Catholic Church where I live that has mass 5 times on Sunday, 3 times on Saturday and 2 times every weekday. They are usually full or almost full. Frequently they have an overflow where people have to sit on concrete benches outside. When the parking is full, people park up and down the road on both sides. This small island is about 90% Catholic.
@lightowl4345
@lightowl4345 Жыл бұрын
which island?
@davidgress6535
@davidgress6535 Жыл бұрын
Now that would be the place to retire. Directions please
@Amen.22
@Amen.22 Жыл бұрын
@@lightowl4345 Guam USA.
@ChrisJones-ij3xp
@ChrisJones-ij3xp Жыл бұрын
​@@Amen.22 Oh...🫢 That's a ways away.
@justinamusyoka4986
@justinamusyoka4986 Жыл бұрын
What's the purpose of being full church when the doctrine preached is faulty and unscriptural? Do numbers count if they worship Mary as intercessor,pray the rosary, celebrate the pagan Christmas, Easter and New year? I think The Most High Yah is trying to awake people when this centuries old shrines close shop.
@jamesduck926
@jamesduck926 Жыл бұрын
You mean a church based on profits?
@JohnBoyDeere
@JohnBoyDeere Жыл бұрын
Not profitable is the real word as well as the money the sale of the property will fill the denominations coffers...
@bukmdano39111
@bukmdano39111 Жыл бұрын
Break away and become Independant
@lindam7518
@lindam7518 Жыл бұрын
👍👏👍
@johnpeters5539
@johnpeters5539 Жыл бұрын
The leadership of the United Methodist Church has been extremely unfaithful to the Lord, with many denominational leaders denying the foundational Christian teaching that Jesus paid the penalty for our sins on the cross. It's time for churches to leave and unite with associations that are faithful to the Lord and His Word. And it's time for individuals to leave for greener pastures when their pastors reveal lack of faithfulness to believe basic Christian teaching.
@roberttirado4569
@roberttirado4569 Жыл бұрын
That’s a shame. It not the size of the church but it’s heart. I pray they hook up with another church. God will never leave them.
@34Packardphaeton
@34Packardphaeton Жыл бұрын
THIS is what is bad about the kind of church polity... when the decision is made by the "higher-ups".. who have no loyalty to local congregations and their wishes.
@CenterPorchNP
@CenterPorchNP Жыл бұрын
Is it part of the UMC split?
@actionsub
@actionsub Жыл бұрын
Apparently it wasn't one of the churches planning to leave the UMC.
@stephanierae9703
@stephanierae9703 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen this happen at more than one Methodist church. I heard they plan to re open some within 2 years. A more “inclusive” church
@davegibbs6423
@davegibbs6423 Жыл бұрын
It’s probably because they’re too Evangelical. The UMC leadership is corrupt.
@patriciareynolds2729
@patriciareynolds2729 Жыл бұрын
including gay preachers is not a real church!
@stephanierae9703
@stephanierae9703 Жыл бұрын
Being in the pew is different from being in the pulpit for sure
@cash1851
@cash1851 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the lgbtqrxwhy
@rogermetzger7335
@rogermetzger7335 Жыл бұрын
I've never been a methodist but I've helped methodist congregations with worship music. I was invited to do so again just this week. I could be completely wrong about this but, in 2019, I started telling methodist pastors that I thought the preaching of ANY political gospel (conservative or progressive) was likely to be counterproductive. It seems my warning was too little too late. Please let me further observe that it is better to avoid referring to a building or an organization as a "church". According to my understanding, believers constitute the church. I'm not opposed to the existence of religious organizations - the organization of a local congregation or the existence of an association or denomination of like-minded congregations. It is better, however, to think of organization as a tool of the church - a tool that can make the work of the congregation or other organization more effective or more efficient. Soon after John Wesley, the eighteenth century reformer, was ordained, he started preaching that Christians should be more diligent about taking the gospel to the poor. His message didn't set well with middle and upper class Englishmen. After several congregations indicated that they didn't want young John to preach in their pulpits again, he found himself without an appointment. He was so sure the Lord had called him to preach, however, that he started preaching anywhere a few people would listen. Soon he attracted sufficient crowds that he found it expedient to preach in open fields rather than on street corners. When asked why he was preaching in the fields instead of church buildings, he replied, "The world is my parish." A person doesn't need to be a member of a methodist congregation to think of John Wesley's emphasis on sanctification to be an important one. I've even met ministers who have thought Wesley's emphasis was important but that some methodists had distorted that message beyond recognition. So my advice to methodists is this: If you think of yourself as a methodist, do research on what John Wesley taught about sanctification. Then, if you believe the Lord is calling you to a similar emphasis, look for Christians with a similar calling. Remember, if you are doing your best to remain faithful to scripture (not merely traditional interpretations of scripture) you and other believers ARE the church - with or without organization and with or without a church building. I think the practice of building and "dedicating" of church buildings was unknown in the first century A.D. You may even find that some people are attracted by invitations to study the Bible in your home who might never have been attracted by an invitation to hear someone preach in a church building. Just remember to avoid dogmatism - i.e. remember to avoid giving the impression that your way of understanding the Bible is the only way Christians have understood it. Christians can learn much from each other if they will lay aside their dogmatism. Not being affiliated with a "denomination" makes that easier to do.
@craftsmanctfl3493
@craftsmanctfl3493 Жыл бұрын
Church rules and dogmatism are the same thing. It’s the way churches have always worked and existed going back to the time of Jesus.
@mbarron50
@mbarron50 Жыл бұрын
This is unchristian and disgusting. I’m so glad my church in Broussard, La. Voted to disaffiliate.
@duke756
@duke756 Жыл бұрын
The United Methodist Conference in that area is taking ownership and probably going to sell it to a developer. There was a church in Wilmington, NC ( 1st Ave United Methodist)that lost their church to the conference. Our new bishop saw fit to close the church and take ownership. It's horrible what some of these Bishops are doing to United Methodist churches, and I hope people leave them if they're ever able to get this message out to members of churches being closed against the existing members wishes.
@craftsmanctfl3493
@craftsmanctfl3493 Жыл бұрын
So did the UMC sell it to the developer or was that just hearsay?
@carlredmond676
@carlredmond676 Жыл бұрын
I’m watching this mate
@priscillawilliams6399
@priscillawilliams6399 Жыл бұрын
This saddens me this is not right this church has helped so many people over the years for God's family!😢
@lindajones4438
@lindajones4438 Жыл бұрын
Meet some place else! Romans 8:28 The Chuch is people. Unite with the conservative branch of UM. I am sure a split is coming or already has. The LGBT agenda is reason enough to leave. THE BIBLE is the final authority for true believers. PRAYERS, I know this is tough.
@knewt1
@knewt1 Жыл бұрын
Leave the denomination
@phoenix4175
@phoenix4175 Жыл бұрын
Sad , I wonder what Jesus would say about the modern day church?
@cash1851
@cash1851 Жыл бұрын
Traditional churches are empty as people flock to the rock concert mega churches. I'm sorry dear little church
@joer5627
@joer5627 Жыл бұрын
Sell the property: run with the cash. The UMC conference can only survive by selling assets
@flapjackluvr
@flapjackluvr Жыл бұрын
The property does not belong to the congregation. The Methodist/United Methodist Church was formed with a trust clause that the building and assets belong to the church, not the congregation. Even if the congregation paid for the building. It seems backward in some ways, but their is a reason for it. After all of this commotion quiets down, maybe the General Conference will discuss updating the clause--if it is even allowed.
@knowsnugget3321
@knowsnugget3321 Жыл бұрын
METHODIST HAVE GONE WOKE SO THEY WILL GO BROKE
@joycewasser2883
@joycewasser2883 Жыл бұрын
Start a new independent church. DO God's work in spite of the Methodists.
@johnanderson3700
@johnanderson3700 Жыл бұрын
The Bishop should realize the works of mercy they do will bear fruit & let them continue
@ronaround2897
@ronaround2897 Жыл бұрын
Go non denominational and continue the Lord's work.
@robertwilson75
@robertwilson75 Жыл бұрын
HELLO! How about telling us what state this is!
@AHBelt
@AHBelt Жыл бұрын
Ohio
@Amen.22
@Amen.22 Жыл бұрын
The state of confusion.
@robertwilson75
@robertwilson75 Жыл бұрын
It's sad that if there are still a core of people there that wish to serve the community, they shouldn't be allowed to continue.
@dr.debbiewilliams
@dr.debbiewilliams Жыл бұрын
Why?
@heinmadsen-leipoldt2341
@heinmadsen-leipoldt2341 Жыл бұрын
Does this church have a pipe organ?
@pastorkeri
@pastorkeri Жыл бұрын
Can’t they go independent and take ownership of the church?
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when the local congregation does not own and control its building. The Baptists have the right idea in that the local church owns it own property.
@ValLeeWeblog
@ValLeeWeblog Жыл бұрын
The only one qualified to be a pastor in a church is one above reproach in every way. The Bible books of Timothy, Titus, Ephesians 4, etc; explain the requirements for a pastor/elder. They cannot be a man who desires to be rich. (Titus 1:7, 1 Timothy 3:4-5) They can only be men, not women, and men of sexual purity, the husband of one wife. Their children have to be Christians and not rebellious. Pastors are to be equipping the saints for the work of service, teaching the Bible from cover to cover with no additions or subtractions and no teachings of men. God teaches in Jeremiah that many men ran to be pastors, but they were not called of God and they taught false doctrines as many do today in the name of the styling churches. These false pastors in Jeremiah's day taught the wealth and prosperity false gospel. Jeremiah is completely applicable to today. The false pastors of today include John Piper and the likes, they being of the reformed/Calvin churches who teach the false teachings of Calvin and Augustine-the father of the Catholic church who was an idolator, praying to the false Mary of idolatry. They are anti-semites, removing the Jews from the Scriptural picture. However, one day all the Jews will be saved as the Bible teaches and the Messiah of the Bible will rule the world from Jerusalem, and people will grab the garment of a Jew and ask to worship God with them. Stephen is an example of what a pastor and deacon should represent. He taught through the Bible. He provided a walk through the Bible before he was stoned to death. He was a man of character, being above reproach. The arriving 144,000 male, virgin Jews of the tribulation period will never compromise the Word of God. They represent the heart of true pastors who will die for the faith. They will not take the mark of satan and his talking idol. (Revelation chapter 13) Many false teachers, including Franklin Graham, walk as one with idolators. They walk with idolatrous Catholics as if Christians are one with them. God commands come out and be separate and this includes separation from idol worshippers. (Please study 2 Corinthians chapter 6, etc.) God declares, idolators will be cast into the lake of fire. God judges the churches as we read in the first three chapters of Revelation and this addresses idolatry as well. Please study these chapters and the book of Jude. Plus, 2 Peter chapters 2-3. Learn your Bibles from cover to cover so you are never led astray by the ways of sinful men who claim to be pastors or evangelists. This is the day of the worldly/styling false church as God predicted would arrive. Married women are to wear the head-covering in church, have long hair (1 Corinthians chapter 11), dress modestly so men look on them as sisters in all purity. (1 Timothy 2, and 5:2) And they must be silent in the churches (1 Corinthians 13:34)
@bruceferguson6637
@bruceferguson6637 Жыл бұрын
Sad to see this. If they are self-sustaining, I don’t see why the denomination would want to withdraw the church from the local community.
@newtrollaccount384
@newtrollaccount384 Жыл бұрын
Very sad. That's a beautiful church with a long history. The LGBT community weaseled it's way in and destroyed that denomination.
@Dulcimertunes
@Dulcimertunes Жыл бұрын
What a shame.
@naomifannin435
@naomifannin435 Жыл бұрын
Why would the Bishop close any church?
@richardw3470
@richardw3470 Жыл бұрын
Heating bills, electric bills, pastor's salary, general upkeep, etc, etc. Not enough contributions from not enough congregants.
@randymorgan8375
@randymorgan8375 8 ай бұрын
I see this happening all over Arkansas in every Denomination....
@robertkauffman8137
@robertkauffman8137 Жыл бұрын
You made a big mistake not leaving the new GAY UMC! The great "falling away" is upon you and you are better off without the UMC! Go gay and go away.
@lesterchua2677
@lesterchua2677 Жыл бұрын
To those who chose to join the United Methodist in their schism. It will always be a disaster to abandon doctrine in the name of progressivism. Pragmatic principles bears pragmatic fruit. Go look for a church better grounded in God’s Word.
@leechamlee1347
@leechamlee1347 Жыл бұрын
They should disafiliate and keep God as the center of the organization. They might see a huge benefit.
@kathleenmann7311
@kathleenmann7311 7 ай бұрын
The “church” is the people who truly believe in Jesus and try to follow His teachings as described in the Sermon on the Mount. Some people refer the the “church house”, which I believe is correct.
@randymorgan8375
@randymorgan8375 8 ай бұрын
3 empty churches in my little town . I can see everyone of them from my house..
@bernlin2000
@bernlin2000 Жыл бұрын
Wow...in New England that's a healthy church count! Very sad, and likely poor, decision by the local bishop. Sounds EXACTLY like the kind of Methodist church we will always need in EVERY community.
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