Is Deshrouding A GPU Still Worth It? RTX 4090 P12 Max Deshroud Mod

[@SAVIARs]

You have overlooked an important concept: masking. By simply placing fans on a shroud, the effect is not fully realized. If you apply a masking band to cover the fans and heatsink, you will observe a significant improvement. This ensures that airflow is directed between the heatsink fins rather than being dispersed around them.

[@TheSnake0444]

Thats such an important factor nd its actually true, he should have at least try that.

[@augustinvaclavik6282]

Yep, apparently quick video without any deeper thought

[@DegustoDelSol]

Another aspect, is the fan rotation, I think the fans are interfering on 100% speed due to te pressure they give, GPUs now have counter rotating fan and I think it may be for that, but don't quote me on that, just thinking out loud

[@wilkuuu4016]

No, he doesnt overlook. If the heatsink was in the Turbo style, then yes. Masking the one that output heat into case will make GPU cook.

[@DegustoDelSol]

@@wilkuuu4016 Spoko Wilku :) tak tylko rozkminiam ;)

[@4Core100]

Scenrio Anyway, people were usually deshrouding because of noise, not because of temps. Noctua fans run definitelly smoother than fans on GPU shrouds.

[@analogicparadox]

To be fair any 120mm will run at lower speeds and noise compared to a thin 90mm

[@Astrothunderkat]

nah, arctic accelero on my 275 and 480 because OC and temps. evga clc 120 on my 980ti because OC and temps

[@wolfwilkopter2231]

it always a combo of noise and temp. not only can you run those 120 or 140mill fans much slower, but they also push way more air and have higher pressure, so that the amounts stay the same or still increase, even at lower rpm, resulting in lower or about same temps, while having lower noise as a wanted side effect.

[@oktc68]

My last 2 GPU's have been by MSI (RTX 2070 Gaming Z & 4070Ti Gaming X Trio) both have been impressive for their cooling and quiet operation. The 4070Ti is particularly good rarely exceeding mid 50's °C or a 70°C hotspot. My case has good airflow. The system isn't audible over my normal listening volume thru stereo bookshelf speakers. I think manufacturers have got the cooling performance very well optimised for some of their products at least.

[@amyn227]

Exactly.

[@zetter5888]

Heatsinks so big nowadays that you can fit 3 120mm fans on them 😂. I remember deshrouding and struggling to put 2 120s on my 1080ti.

[@Reirainsong]

2x 140mm Noctua here. 7900 XT is a big boy.

[@trulsrohk1]

I really want some madlad manufacturer to make one that just takes 3 standard 120s off the bat. With a fan adapter

[@theomeneboode3468]

Yup, u right. My old 3090 has a deshroud mods with noctua fan ahah

[@sagartran]

My old asus strix 1080ti barely fitted 2 noctua fans. The noise and temps after that were unmatched.

[@marxerr]

i was able to fit 3 120 lian li infini fans. Beautiful, silent and amazing temps.

[@arutezza]

just having the p12 fans looks way better than 90% of gpu shrouds nowadays, Modern shrouds make them look like childrens toys

[@92kosta]

Especially this Zotac one, along with the Palit diamond-encrusted one. Hate the look of those things!

[@arutezza]

@@92kosta recent ones ive seen is the asrock phantom gaming and taichi radeons

[@astanisystems]

Sapphire Nitro+ looks minimalistic and really good in my opinion. I just wish they offered more colors for the shroud, such as white, black, silver, chrome, or brushed aluminum silver.

[@athmaid]

​@@astanisystemsshame Sapphire only makes AMD. Although one could argue that Zotac is basically their Nvidia counterpart (afaik Zotac's parent company PC Partner partly owns Sapphire)

[@astanisystems]

@@athmaid Yeah. I also like what XFX and MSI are doing, especially XFX. XFX makes really clean and modern GPUs, and they're usually the best value.

[@mrajewicz]

There is no point in deshrouding a card that runs at 59 degrees from the factory. Please deshroud something that runs hot, like an overclocked reference Radeon 7900 XTX. Check how many decibels can be shaved off by replacing the stock fans with Arctic fans while keeping hotspot tempterature at constant 90 degrees.

[@MadridistaFrieren]

Reference XTX have some problem with the vapor Chamber according to der8auer

[@potatorigs2155]

@@MadridistaFrieren that's was a limited to the first batch run where you've been ?

[@MadridistaFrieren]

@@potatorigs2155 not really, mu friends just bought a XTX few months ago (January). He return it a few days later cause of the Same problem der8auer found. Now he got a 4080 super lol

[@potatorigs2155]

@@MadridistaFrieren your friend is unlucky and should buy a loterie ticket this is a small batch issue on the release of reference model.

[@MadridistaFrieren]

@@potatorigs2155 lol why would he buy a Lottery ticket, his a muslim it's absolutely haram lol.

[@EnergeticTK]

I think deshrouding is way more worth it in an ITX case, because the card becomes thicker they can draw air directly from the outside into the case, instead of using the warmer case air to cool itself.

[@STSYT]

Definitely. Or at least very often. Still had to try this though

[@EnergeticTK]

@@STSYT do you plan on revisiting this in an itx case? 👀

[@thias1]

Also length. Deshrouding makes my XFX Merc 319 fit length-wise in an A4-H2O.

[@account_under_maintenance]

Hey 🙂 I wanted to know the best AMD processor to take for a 4060Ti to avoid bottleneck and have the best possible performance in AM4 and also in AM5 (I play in 1440p)? (Let no one judge my choice of GPU, I want an NVIDIA I know that an AMD would be less expensive and with better performance.) ​@@STSYT

[@superpork1superboy771]

@@account_under_maintenance a Ryzen 5 5600 should be fine for a 4060 Ti at 1440p, and for AM5 the 7500f is an option, however with both of these CPUs you're likely bottlenecked by the graphics card at 1440p.

[@CheeseTruffles]

I deshrouded my Ventus 3x 4080 and replaced the 3 90mm fans with a pair of NF-a12x25s. I got similar results in that the cooling performance was actually slightly worse under heavy loads (probably because having one less fan meant less of the heatsink had air flowing through it), but the trade off was it being significantly quieter.

[@STSYT]

Makes sense. I guess a third of the card was left fan-less in your case. Still interesting for the noise though

[@mr.electronx9036]

i replaced my ventus with 140mm instead of 120mm works fine

[@ffwast]

You should obviously be using 140mm fans.

[@CheeseTruffles]

@@ffwast the card’s heatsink is practically exactly 120mm wide, so 140mm fans would overhang the edge quite a lot. Besides, the 120mm ones still cover about 80% of the heatsink. I used a mounting bracket I got off Etsy that only supported 120s anyway

[@NMusic42]

I recently deshrouded my Palit RTX 3080 12 GB with 2 P14 Max using some zip tes. The card was hot as hell since the begining and was constantly hitting 105 hotspot and ~80C after less than a year of usage (it was undervolted all the time; the case is Enthoo Pro 2 with all 14 fans installed and fans speeds are bounded to GPU and CPU temps; the room temp is usually 23C or lower). At first I replaced just the thermal paste, that solved the hotspot issue, but card was hot and loud anyway, just a bit cooler. After deshroud it became way cooler and more quite. Now my PC is almost inaudible under heavy GPU load.

[@STSYT]

Happy to hear you found a solution. I had similar stuff happen to my Palit/gainward cards. Gainward less, but palit was always kinda hotter and louder compared to the competition

[@TheRealName7]

You should try slapping some ptm7950 on that core. Trust me Ptm7950 is far superior than thermal paste. I dropped 10°+ hotspot opening my new from factory 7800xt and then applying the ptm on It, well worth it imo. Now all the fans stay quiet. Just make sure u get PTM from Honeywell as they have good quality standards for their ptm7950

[@NMusic42]

@@TheRealName7 I have it on my GPU, didn't make any changes from TF7 I used before At least it shouldn't get high hotspot delta so quick

[@selectthedead]

@@STSYT Hey STS, from a Fluid and thermodynamic point of you, the fans are less important, but forcing the Air through the finns. You already have 3 bottom intake fans. You could try to either make a shroud around the card that seals it off against the motherboard and case walls or you could build a duct from those bottom fans and feed the airflow into the heatsink with the duct. Also seal the big gabs between the fin stacks should also help. If you have stattic preasure optimized fans would be best in this case. Optimum Tech has shown it works wonders! Would be cool if you could evovle deshrouding to something new

[@X_irtz]

The 3000 series higher end cards are absolute power hogs, i can attest to this with my 3070 Ti, it gets pretty hot sometimes, even with an undervolt...

[@bahadrto]

That arctic fan noise isnt because of fans but because of air going through heatsink if you would guide the airflow and cover it around like original fan does, it should be colder and quiter

[@xcal99999]

I recently De shrouded my GPU (gtx980) because the original 3 fan were falling after 9+ years. So if your gpu's original fan is going bad and u don't have any warrenty left than only Deshrouding make sense imo

[@STSYT]

Definitely in your case. And congrats for keeping that card alive till now

[@xcal99999]

@@STSYT Thanks man. I try to use hardwares as long as possible especially if they are serving me well

[@wolfwilkopter2231]

Nice one! My old 980 (that Gigabyte Gaming 1) still lives on, with my younger Bro and the fans still work. My 1080 Aorus Rev.2 still works in a secondary rig and that one had already a monstrous chunk of cooler slapped on, for me the best custom design for that generation and just needed some pad (or rather putty Upsiren U6 Pro) and paste (MX-6) replacements and now runs even smoother and slightly cooler, than it had brandnew, maxing out at perma 2GHz with just 65°C with barely going over 50% fan rpm, which is almost inaudible. :) the RTX308012gig Aorus Master on the other hand... lets just say the 3000er are not known for their superior efficiency and the easy cooling and that gets way hotter...and could use some deshrouding, but that would also mean losing the display and so on...

[@peterschonherr7771]

I think the review is missing the point: Today you deshroud for noise, not raw performance. In a noise normalized test, the deshroud would have blown the original out of the water. And whats the with the focus on max rpm? I will gladly let my 4090 run up to the 60s with no hit in performance but virtually silent.

[@matttiaz7576]

Deshrouding was a thing before people become smart and undervolt the gpus. 3 click to accived same result basically

[@squnxfisher9831]

funny, I'm just in the process of deshrouding my 5700xt bcs one of the fans died. the algorythm did their thing I guess

[@yyzttr6306]

My S3 Virge DX would never give me this much trouble with heat, and it can render polygons*

[@RobiLemos10]

They make very expensive GPU using shitty chinese small fans that sound terrible.

[@ControllerSupported]

There are ways to make this better for that GPU. I have the Zotac trinity 4090, got the deshroud bracket from a seller on etsy that fits 2 120mm fans (I used noctua nf-a12 chromax) and got the black bracket kit from seller (he also had noctua brown). Temps are slightly lower, but noise is now very very quiet. Also looks fantastic. It was worth it for me because one of the factory fans was whining and it was quite annoying.

[@Ntense___]

I have a trinity and was wanting to try this

[@ControllerSupported]

@@Ntense___ I tried to link the etsy page, but the sellers name is Osserva. He is awesome, makes a bunch of different makes and model GPU brackets.

[@Reaverstyle1]

I think that what ControllerSupported in the comments mentions about a proper mounting bracket is really important here. If you would have a mounting bracket for these 3 fans and make a 3D printed custom shroud for it so all the air without backflow is properly guided through the cooling, you`ll probably have better RPM less noise and great temps.

[@lordstorm8555]

shroud gives the fans a vacuum so it pulls more air through the heatsink

[@cszolee7979]

My 4080S has 4090 cooler and dual bios with Silent mode as default. After decades of loud, hot cards that had to be deshrouded due to the noise levels (Arctic P12 for the rescue!), this is so refreshing. Quiet, cool and does not need any external software to keep it that way.

[@hussainal-umran3460]

maybe cause of the air tunneling is not there any more

[@FrodeBergetonNilsen]

Deshrouding does not work, but ducting does. It just requires a ton of skill, even to design a proper one. Even when you get it to work, stock fans may offer a similar performance at max. I the end, modern cooling solutions have strong enough fans to get the most out of the heatsink, but they are noisy. Particular at slower speeds. There is no reason for a great heatsink not to result in lower fan noise than coil whine, for almost any GFX. The good news, is that some cards actually has very low whine, in which a card with a proper heatsink, will be virtually silent, even under load. You just need to duct it properly. I have yet to see anyone else actually do that. As in else. Time is getting ripe.

[@ffwast]

I was going to get a 3d printer and duct some full size fans through a 30 series but it turned out a watercooling loop was cheaper. Maybe someday.

[@FrodeBergetonNilsen]

​@@ffwast If you look at getting a brand new high end consumer printer, I get what you are saying. But for the most part, the cost is the design, a GPU water block, fittings, pump, and so on is way more expensive, than getting slant3d or someone to print one for you. But designing one, that is another story.

[@Games_and_Tech]

This was a really interesting experiment that failed

[@Franciscoxds]

it seems to be way quieter when forcing 50C. The deshroud was only running at 40%. Did you notice any difference in sound?

[@WhiteZelda]

I have an RX590 (i know, cant afford anything newer yet), that runs at 8485c and it throttles a lot, i already changed thermal paste pads, even installed new fans just in case but still nothing works When using PC fans for GPU, what should i be looking at, CFM or Air Pressure? I cant afford Noctua fans, so im looking at some Antec T3 Storm to replace the default ones

[@brunofqs]

You should observe air flow and air speed, thus, fans with higher rpm at a expense of noise. However, this kind of card has multiple exits for the air after accelerated by the stock fans (I got a RX 580 and I have observed that). I believe a good fraction of the flow don't have enough time to sheer with the fins. I'm think of cover it somehow and test to see what effect it does.

[@MrGarbezzy]

You should make a fan shroud n try again

[@daddybotz]

I deshrouded my evga 3090 to hybrid. About 20c cooler when gaming now from 70c to 50c lol

[@asfodhell]

I did the exact same mod a few days ago, but on the Aorus Master 6800XT. In my case, it was definitely a massive improvement ! Not sure if the stock fans were on their way out, or just bad ? The point is ; the P12 Max ended up far more silent. My GPU draws 300watts under maximum load, the way I have it setup. Even with only two of these P12 Max, it was better than stock. I still went with 3 fans. I'm not trying to get very low temps tho. It is staying at 72~75°c Hotspot (12°c above GPU temp) when they spin at 1100rpm ---> Silent. Oh and the only fan spinning in my computer case, on idle (browsing etc ..) is the 2009's Corsair HX750W PSU's 140mm fixed speed fan 😆

[@ShadyHero]

0:02 id guess coolers got HUGE

[@ebikervermont1576]

Try it with 6x Counter Rotating Compound Fans with 3x on Each Side in Push-Pull Witch will be Really 12 Fans for Each Fan has Two Fans in one for there Compound Fans and Take Cardboard or Something and make a Simple Shroud to Direct the Air Flow witch there will be a Lot of. The New Way to Over Clocking GPU's LOL

[@rascruce32]

1 speed regulator for fans

[@000hitec000]

You should have used the Phanteks T30 instead of the Arctic P12 MAX

[@STSYT]

I kinda doubt there would have been a big difference. We reached a plateau relatively quickly with the p12’s. Maybe a bit for the noise at a fixed 50*C

[@rabellogp]

I hate seeing so many cooling projects nowadays with shrouds that block 60-80% of the heatsink exposed side (considering the inner side is already fully blocked by the motherboard.) I miss EVGA designs that seemed to always put functionality before form.

[@JustSomeDinosaurPerson]

The no fans concept was doom to fail because you need sizeable static pressure to get through the fins of that heatsink...

[@dot_boi]

I wish GPU fans were more modular by design so you can just latch in any 90 or 120 mm fan like an air cooler or something. I mean air coolers have gotten this down over 10 years ago at this point. Why can't at least the AIBs create coolers with modular fans? I don't really care if the Founders edition has built in fans but I'd like the option for modular fans. For ex if one fan dies on a newer GPU, well you're SOL and have to RMA the entire card... You're also stuck with the fans you get unless you de-shroud the thing which is more of a mod than a feature and more than likely voids your warrenty. There are tens of thousands of fans already on the market, a good chunk of them would already fit on GPUs, why not take advantage of that?

[@DarkAttack14]

No it doesn't void your warranty. Magnuson moss act

[@BorealSine]

I had to deshroud my 3080ti hof from kfa because fans were so trash and cheap one started making rattling noise and spinned like a wheel thats about to fall off. I would not recommend to buy gpus without double ball bearing fans on them, i went with msi twice and its been perfect. My 4090 is under full load for one and a half year now with 75% fan speed, working the same way as day 1, their fans sound exactly the same as noctuas. I had horrible experience with zotac, gigabyte, kfa, they use trash fans so i would recommend to pay extra and get proper card

[@IonNight]

You need space between the fans and the heatsink to get better airflow. I placed NF12x25 on 2080 Ti and temps got really improved, but its a 4 slot card now.

[@peterelliott2914]

I got a SFFPC and I needed to do it to get the GPU in exhaust (no case fans possibe). When you got GPU risers and the card sitting beside the motherboard it's a whole new game. Pull fans on GPUs work just as well as push fans btw. Nice vid :)

[@maciejlechpaczkowski8717]

nice ;-] but when we uses AIO LF 420mm to cooling GPU .... ;-] that is interesting ...

[@Lofff371]

You can try using 3M heat resistance double tape to stick fans to the heat sink. It looks clean and the tape is actually very strong and durable

[@DinoAlibasic]

Just found this video because I was looking if deshrouding my Pulse RX 6700XT would be worth, and I noticed something, There's even a point in deshrouding a 4090 which has already huge fans, as the card itself its huge?

[@shaunbay2]

I deshrouded my 3090 with 3 p12 max and got similar results at max load. Under normal loads, it was cooler by a few degrees and also allowed me to push a slightly more aggressive fan curve with better noise profile. Couldn't be happier as the stock fans were very annoying.

[@Falcon5ive]

1. The middle fans in trio configuration is supposed to spin opposite direction to avoid wind flutter. 2. These fans have a wide gap in between due to the frame thickness which leaves hotspots in the heatsink, while the oem fans are closer together. 3. Getting better specced fans would've healped as well, Noctua has great radiator fans with higher SP & CFM

[@PainIs4ThaWeak85]

Did you say "wind flutter"?

[@maozedowner5915]

Noctua fans are not better than Arctic P12 Max. NF-A12 competes with it, every other Noctua fans get completely gapped by the Arctic.

[@Shadowized]

Noctua fans haven't been relevant for at least 6+ years now, the P12 / P14 Max fans are much stronger due to the higher RPM ceiling, even the regular P12's are better since they are a little bit thicker (27 vs 25mm) while costing a fraction of what a single Noctua fan costs.

[@maozedowner5915]

@@Shadowized The P14 is 27 mm thick, not the P12. P12 is still 25 mm thick. The non-max variant is not better than the NF-A12. While Arctic stuff is excellent, don't praise them to the roof.

[@Shadowized]

@@maozedowner5915 seeing as how they (non-max) have near identical static pressure when running at the same RPM while costing 1/3rd the price, I'd say that praise is justified and no amount of brown team cope is going to change that.

[@Kaneki_Live]

Bro, what you talking about. The 3 fans you attached are WAY more silent than the zotac ones. Noise is for me a top3 factor when I buy and build my PC. You should have tried this with Noctua or BeQuiet fans

[@yavorhristov2117]

First: To lower temps you need more air going through the heatsink. Those P12 MAXs has 81 CFM airflow each and when the case is closed the case fans have to push that many air in the case so it can be sucked by the P12s. If intake is not enough the P12 might spin at max RPM but wont push more air through the heatsink. Second: P12 max might move tons of air but they spin at above 3000 RPM and they become noisy if not noisier than the stock fans and the MAX's bearing itself is not meant to be silent. Regular P12 will be better option- 1800RPM of silence pushing 56 CFM. Third: Effect varies from GPu to GPU- I have a deshrouded Strix Vega56 with 2 regular P12s and without touching the voltage/frequncy it stays under 60C, in complete silence. Tweaking voltage/frequency drops it close to 50.

[@zackzeed]

Dismantling a GPU will Not void the warranty.... obviously only if you damage it. You deffifnitely NEED to have fans on the card, at least at stock speeds. If you undervolt the gpu than maybe those case fans would be enough but it's Big maybe... The air from the case fans is just To dispersed. You can also undervolt the card with the slapped on fans. But at some point you might as well watercool the card lol. Man, I appreciate the video, but not how you did it. Do some more research and don't mislead people with some of the info.

[@UpgradingAsUsual]

I still do this. Apart from the Nuctua GPU's, fans that come with GPUS are ALL trash. Literally 20c per fan lol. Always replace your GPU fans with Arctic P14 fans. 2 should be enough. Silent gaming quieter and quite a bit cooler too. This guy is using 120mm fans. Been there, done that. 140mm is way. Even lower RPM's with even better temps. I've done this with a GTX 980, GTX 1080, RTX 2070, RTX 3080 and now on my RTX 4080. This time I'm using PTM 7950 thermal Phase Change material on the GPU die and I get about 55c with an under-volt under max load with fan speed of 33% only. That's silent gaming. This guy just doesn't have enough experience to do it right but a good effort nonetheless!

[@hirschkuh1982]

I use a RTX 4070ti with two Noctua A12x25 ULN at 0-850rpm and my 5800x3d has an Alphacool Eisbaer 280 with two Arctic P14 at 450-600rpm. My pc is complete silent in gaming. It is perfect and i really hate noise. I am happy now

[@jbsthegamer]

I have a evga rtx 3080 ftw3 and when deshrouded gave me like a 18C reduction in overall core temp. Stock gpu hotspot was 84C max and now it maxes out at 73C. It seems deshrouding does not work well on all GPUs. It so happens that GPU's factory fans are really well designed with that GPU you deshrouded. The boost clock on my gpu is rock solid now after swapping out the stock fans. The majority of GPUs now days have really well designed coolers which is why it is no longer really worth it.

[@fvhrenheit4813]

I recently bought used 3080(also zotac). Did deshroud mod, replaced paste, pads. Undervolted, this thing is cool as a puppy.

[@rambow70]

I'm curious what the core speed was with the OEM fans at 100% compared to the aftermarket fans at 100%, you showed aftermarket but didn't see the stock numbers. Also the pitch of the aftermarket fans seemed lower which was more pleasant to listen to than the higher pitch OEM fans. Not sure if it's worth the cost of those three fans but to someone it probably is.

[@mynickisalreadytaken]

In a direct comparision with good Headphones in your Video, i thought it was absolutely worth it. It even looks better. But that is of course just a personal opinion overall. The soundscpace is diferent and i would love to hear the difference with a closed case, sitting next to me on the floor. I have a Dark Base 900 pro rev. 2 with 3x 140mm Fans in the Front and an XFX RX6800 SWFT. With custom Fancurve and an Undervolt it is really not loud on full load and around 59°c While there is no need to do it and this GPU looks quite beautiful when installed, i feel the urge to do it just for fun. Lets see if i also get 3 fans on that Cooler. Thanks for the Video. I like these Experiments with now modern Hardware. Also shows that some GPU Cooling Solutions work really really good.

[@antoniocepaj7544]

I would love to see how deshrouded 4070 dual perform in a micro atx case like ASUS Mini Tower Prime AP201 Mesh or Sharkoon Mini Tower MS-Z1000 with Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM Chromax or BE QUIET Silent Wings Pro 4 fans. ❤ And with insade capture card in-between gpu, and fans. + If possible for cpu cooler use Noctua NH-L9x65 or 240 aio with Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans. ❤

[@suprafastmafc]

I put two of these same fans on an asrock 6700xt on my backup rig. The factory fans were a joke. And I never even ran them, so no clue how poorly they performed. But a quick internet search will say poorly. Used coper wire and attatched the fans to the ends of the copper heat pipes. Doesnt go over 40c on hotspot. And I just have them running half tilt on a noctua manual controller. Might go to gpu controlled speed here soon. Ordered the adaptor needed.

[@AnonymAnonym-fv3uc]

All GPUs should have noctua fans standard almost all GPUs today are loud and high hotspot unless you pay more for a 3 fan MSI x or Asus Strix

[@Horribleengineer]

The p12 don't have a high rpm, it was hotter because 100% had less cfm then stock fans, get higher rpm fans for better oc, the p12 were only going to make it quieter. Deshrouding is typically for noise in itx where there is little insulation between. GPU and outside. You will never void a warranty for taking a GPU apart, only if you do it badly and the manufacturer can prove you broke it. Deshrouding, setting fans to exhaust and putting them to a grate has had great performance in the m itx form factor. When you tried no fans, did you at least put the GPU in the lowest pci slot? Or did you leave it in the top most far away from the bottom fans.

[@MsFearco]

It looks like shit and feels like it's just wrong... I have one with deshroud (3080,excellent temps, never audible at all, never above 70c) and one with an water cooling(4090, never goes above 50c). The water cooling looks nice and is very quiet. But the deshroud is cheaper, like a LOT. But... Getting a proper shroud for 120mm fans is just as expensive as a water cooler. And ziptieing fans is just looking like shit

[@bluej511]

So I will tell you this. Fur mark/3dmark etc don't report the correct temperatures. You should use hwinfo or afterburner and measure EVERY temperature available. Example, my 7900 XT reference went from 80-90 hotspot to low 60s. The other temperature that 3dmark shows is 39C when before it was in the 70s. VRM temps and memory temps should also be looked at. Custom loop :).

[@AI.Musixia]

deshroud or casefans or whatever.... simply undervolt it or underclock and undervolt it and all done :D i undervolted and underclocked my rx6700xt oc from asrock bcz it gets 95c and 111junktion .... at end i go 600mhz down and 120mv down and i have at benchmarks now 17% less power at games 1-2fps less but at temps in my jonsbo V10-G itx case only 55-58c at idle and 59-61c at gaming 63c at benchmarks it was 100% worth it!

[@bobbymoss6160]

How to damage your RTX 4090.... 🤣🤣

[@STSYT]

It’s back to original now. Nothing happened 😅

[@Verssten]

Yeah, deshrouding a cool non overclocked card, what a good idea

[@saitenkloppa9205]

Deshrouded my Asus RTX2060Super Dual Evo OC a while ago and placed two Noctua A12x25 on it. On full load 20 °C drop and could OC and UV to stable 2000Mhz@160W. but a few High-End games didn´t like it that much, so i went back to stock. still a cool card and the fans are barely noticeable. Use a O11 dynamic w max fan setup (incl. card 12 fans) :D

[@Integroabysal]

You are missing 1 point here , and that's the fan turbulence , don't forget that the stock fans are hard screwed in place , while arctic fans are hanging on the plastic bands , that in itself at higher rpm and CFM creates a lot of disturbance in the airflow and stuff like that. ppl are printing on a 3d printer a fitting mechanism and the results are wildly better. And yeah , you are comparing an already good cooling solution , try compare the cheapest cooling solution vs the arctic , i did change the fans on my friends 4070 palit dual , and the temps and noise levels went down by 20%+

[@szlaven8254]

It doesnt worth it bc it does give a diff but the temps are good at stock and u lose warranty and at 10:45 u see that with the proces 1 plate got bend, maybe try this on the 7900xtx bc the 7900xtx Vram temps under load is 90c so there likely ,akes a bigger difference in preformance and vram temps

[@thedeegee1601]

Since GPU fans can't spin below 1000 RPM (30%), and i have sensitive hearing, deshrouding is still a viable option for me personally. I put three Noctua NF-A12x25 fans on my PNY RTX 4070 Ti XLR8.

[@michalsvihla1403]

This video had so much unused potential as is evident from the comments: 1. You should've validated the GPU temps against clockspeeds and noise output to get an accurate representation of whether there is an improvement or not (since as you mentioned, with better cooling, the clockspeeds adjust themselves --> higher clockspeeds at the same temps are an improvement, but noise is also a factor in the equation --> how much noisier does it get to achieve the same temperatures? etc.). 2. You should've tried to cover the sides to see whether guiding the airflow makes a difference or not (which is the purpose of the original shroud)(and then validate GPU temps against clockspeeds/noise output again and compare). 3. You could've tried different fan orientation configurations to see what difference it makes (as certain GPU shroud coolers have a middle fan that blows in the opposite direction of the other ones)(and then validate GPU temps against clockspeeds/noise output again and compare). If you decide to revisit this topic in the future, I really urge you to try these, as it would provide valuable information on deshrouding a GPU and something I'd definitely love to watch. It's not something anyone's done yet, so it'd undoubtedly be a unique piece on youtube. As it stands, I don't feel like I got much from this video except for a slightly skeptical subjective opinion of yours.

[@Udavvf]

To reduce the noize sometimes spacers are used between fan and radiator. Core boost might affect it, but also i believe that when running 3300RPM 12cm fans on full RPM not all air is able to pass through radiator, which creates some sort of air pillow, turbulence, backfiring air or what ever, hence the temperature increase

[@LATRONNIK]

back when 3090 came out i switched to the gaming x trio version and bios flashed the 1000w evga bios on it, but i had to wait for my waterblock so i literally ran 1000w card on air and installing the waterblock did only bring me 2 boost bins of headroom, and gpu hotspot went from 57C to 49. it's kinda insane how good the stock aircoolers are these days

[@Jimmys_TheBestCop]

TBH I thin k this was just the tip of the iceberg and you need to deep dive it with a dozen different fans. We need super high end silent fans testing and radiation fan testing. I mean this is a 4090 if you got 4090 money you should $50 fan money as well. I still think the P12max were way less noisy then the shroud. The shroud at 50 degrees was insane and would drive me crazy. The p12 was almost bearable. Then you need to kick thermal paste deep dive. 5 best pastes, 5 best pads/putty, 5 best non paste aka graphene or phase changing thermal pads. modern gpus are just way to loud.

[@sagichnicht6748]

Of course I deshrouded my modest 6750XT and replaced the fans with 2 Noctua NF-A12x25. Was the card too hot before? Not at all but first of all the Noctua fans have a much less offensive noise profile and secondly they can spin so slow, even at heavy use, that they are even in the worst case just a fairly silent swoosh and in medium use cases barely audible. No comparison to the stock fans. You have ensure of course that the fans don't blow around the heatsink but through it.

[@cfunkbooya]

I have a montech case with two of their 120mm reverse fans blowing directly up into my 7600xt and it still cranks up to 100% fan speeds when fully loaded. According to AMD these cards and their new cpus are meant to run at high temps. I read they stress tested them at temps above normal like in the 90's and the chips are able to run at those temps long term without damage.

[@MrSebDR]

I already deshrouded my 3080 Zotac amp holo, ( wich was terrible in term of noise and temps) i 3D printed something to fit 2 120mm fans on it, i then installed 2 noctua a12x25, now the noise is really good and the GPU never went more than 75 degrees

[@dan8t669]

1. De-shrouding didn't become less popular over the years. You don't even have to DIY it anymore. You can get conversion kits for many cards on etsy. 2. Removing the fan shroud does not void the warranty. 3. Why not aim for 60-70°C?

[@sidewinder86ify]

I did this to my XFX merc 7900XT. 3x Be quiet SW4. Superb results, temp at 55c 700rpm fans. Original fans 69c 2000rpm..15% more power on both mods on the gpu.

[@catman0082]

Brothers, I wanna achieve better temps with the gpu being quiet on my 5700 xt, if I would do this, would this work better than stock? gigabyte rx5700xt

[@niter43]

You didn't really test for quiet operation though, instead of relaxing fans you've pushed them to a point of diminishing returns for single noise comparison you did -- who actually seeks 50C on core if he looks for quiet operation? Relax it to 65-75C (or at very least stock 60C) and see the noise gap widen.

[@changtruong7617]

most don't know that ATX motherboard block/restrict hot air coming out at the bottom of GPU. But ITX mobo allow GPU hot air to flow by easily. You may/most likely also have to cut the back of case for airflow to the outside also. Some case no need to cut. The best way is to water cool. I dont care for fancy LEDs. I have custom/mod open case and flip it upside down so GPU is at the top of the case for best cooling.

[@christiansteiffen4677]

i really like this idea, i could imagine doing the same myself but with three Corsair RX120 RGB Fans. The RX120 RGB have Icue link which mean i only have to run one cable + they are RGB i have never seen a GPU with RGB Fans. Thank you for this video, even if this is not worth doing i might still try it!

[@b1ini]

I deshrouded my 7800 xt sapphire plulse. And got worse performance. I couldn't believe it so I even built a cardboard housing to direct airflow. But nothing changed. Temperature difference was just 2-3 degrees. It shows that todays card are already well made

[@aku2dimensional]

I wanted to remove the shroud from my GTX 1070 and put in a fan assembly that fits into a PCIe slot next to the card, but I want to plug straight into the card's fan header since I don't have another way to power them in my enterprise PC. The fans are broken in my card so three 92mm fans might help cool it a little more.

[@kalamatagames2631]

arctic p12 and p14 are the fan with the less sound after that you go to noctua with a higher prize , for aio cooler one p12 works perfect for me at 80 % fan speed intel 12600 playing game like fps and starfield at high settings ,all fans make sound at 100% fan speed

[@golden1199]

I'm a good minute in and I'm going to stop you there, and throw a opinion out for the world to see and possibly have some agree with, its totally dead for 4000 series in my opinion the price of the cards themselves are horribly overpriced and underspec'd in cases like the 4080 and below, and the cards like the 4090 the cooling is just so over-engineered that the mod is irrelevant because my 4090 never exceeds 65C its just a overbuilt cooler

[@rolliseventeen]

i would rather waterblock it. i will get a old 1070 these days with an old arctic accelero III mounted and a Kryographics GTX 1080/1070 Pascal Copper Water Block in reserve. this will be interesting what is better.

[@jesseruhland2983]

Having a goal temp of 50 degrees for a 450 watt card seems like it's too low of a target. If the goal was 60-65, those Arctic fans would basically be idling and you wouldn't hear anything. Still worth it IMO.

[@Wyd4]

I deshrouded my zotac 4080 and placed 2 noctua fans on it, however I did this as I was running a LianLi case inverted and wanted the fans to pull through the card and out the top of the case, rather than trying to sort out airflow of an inverted gpu at the top of the case. I have since flipped the fans back over (and run the case in normal orientation) and there is no meaningful benefit in running this setup over the stock fans and shroud. That said I prefer the sound profile of the noctua fans over the stock fans which sound more high pitched, even though they aren't really that much different in volume under use. In the past I have de-shrouded also to get GPUs to fit in SFF cases. But as your video details, its mostly not required these days.

[@mr.electronx9036]

I replaced msi trio fans (3 fans) with 2x 140mm noctua fans The gpu runns 10°C cooler and you can't hear the fans at all.

[@chrisslyi]

Dude is putting on the cheapest and worst fans there are and wondering why they can be heard lmao. Arctic is not for quietness but for cooling with sacrifice. For cooling NoiseBlockers elopes should be used or any other fan that’s made with quality. Had about 20 Arctic Fans and they all were trash after a short period of time.

[@maxhammick948]

My asus 4070 dual runs a lot better with a pair of arctic P12s (non-max). Lower RPM, lower noise, and it runs a few degrees cooler (both GPU hotspot and memory)

[@spleany8123]

This Zotac card can consume 450 watts maximum according to techpowerup. Such a mod might be more interesting and perhaps needed with a 600 watts variant of RTX 4090

[@AvitaBeckling]

get a waterblock my 4090 does not get past 34C with 95%+ load/tax with a 25C room temp. I have a push/pull on my heatsink for high static pressure.

[@BoomixDe]

When you watch interviews with Fan manufactuers like Noctua, you understand more what the important things are to air coling. For example, your fans are pressing agains the cooling fins, the air puses down so fast they will reflect back and also leak from the side, and even leak trough the 1mm gap around the fan blade. Adding some tape around the Fans to guide the air could also increase the perfrmace.

[@ilovelimpfries]

Deshrouding = 🙅🏻 Watercooling = 💁🏻‍♂️ If you have the dough to blow on 4090, another €300 for gpu aio is chumpchange.

[@ufukpolat3480]

3x92mm will provide more static pressure which you'd prefer if the heatsink has high fin density.

[@Aggnog]

No point doing this, enough cards now with good cooling stock and they don't even run hot, my 4090 at 900mv doesn't even go over 60C. Why would anyone spend another $50-200 for cooling you don't need.

[@BVLVI]

I literally have three server 50 watt server fans just sitting here. Unfortunately I don't have a forty ninety to cool.

[@Ryohta77]

As far as I heard on the video, it had worth to replace fan. Actually, I am doing de-shrouding on my 3070 and it works well. Anyway thanks for testing!

[@id104335409]

I think GPUs should be sold without shrouds. They will cost less and everyone can decide what brand of cooling they can put on and if they will go with air or water. And you can reuse your cooler on the next GPU so there will be less waste. Right now there are millions and millions of GPUs in the world with cooling radiators and fans attached to them and and they are all heading to the "recycle" bin.

[@ZenTunE-]

Should probably test at more reasonable temps like 70C, no reason to run your fans that loud to keep a gpu at 50C for a negligible performance or longetivity increase.

[@Frederic91fr]

My 6700XT is deshroudded with 3x 92mm rgb fans and it makes 0 noise while gaming with temps a litttle lower than stock : totally worth it.

[@BeIlows]

Okay but if it ran hotter my gut feeling is the card is turboing higher and longer. You simply cannot not give us GPU and memory speeds when they are automatically scaled based on temperature headroom. To do so severely underreports the situation.

[@SlinkySlonkyWaffle]

the deshrouded one is still an improvement in every way. i understand people want a quiet PC but this already is very quiet, we need to stop chasing perfection and saying "its not good enough" while its substantially better than the original solution