Machine Shop Operations and Setups - Stuart's Machinist Book Club Book Review

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

Good book Stuart, that was my high school machine trades shop textbook circa 1974. Thanks for posting it. 👍👍👍

[@MyLilMule]

I have this book. Bought it from a used book store about a year ago.

[@felixf5211]

Just ordered the book. Love the book series. Thank you. Can't wait to check it out.

[@MicksWorkshop]

Nice review, I just ordered a copy. Thanks!

[@bkoholliston]

Ordered! Thanks for the recommendation.

[@StuartdeHaro]

You're very welcome. More to come.

[@joell439]

Thanks so much for reviewing this book. I just received a used original copy and I’m truly impressed with the content. Please note that when I hunted for one on Amazon I learned that one needs to be aware that new reprints can be quite fuzzy/blurry as they are printed from a digitized copy. 👍😎👍

[@StuartdeHaro]

Good to know. Thanks!

[@bruce150]

Thanks Stuart. Looks like a good reference. I Ordered one.

[@harryhopkins7798]

I enjoy all your video's and thanks for this book review. I am a self taught hobby machinist with small equipment and I enjoy making small air/steam engines and clock movements. I sometimes find myself in difficult situations because I have not started my machining in an optimal order. If you are ever trying to pick a new topic for a video I would enjoy some instruction on order of operations for both a lathe and a mill.

[@TheAyrCaveShop]

Good information and review Stuart, I'll be keeping an eye out for a copy. Thanks for sharing !

[@StuartdeHaro]

All the setups shown really make this one worth the purchase price. I put a link to it up in the description, although Amazon may be sold out of it by now. I think I bought it from ENCO, so MSC might carry it too.

[@simonstininato5851]

Great book Stuart. Looking to get it shipped to me in Australia.

[@7alfatech860]

Nice review. Thanks for pointing out the chapters that many would find useful.

[@jpsimon206]

I don't know if you are currently a shop teacher, one of my favorite publications is a text designed for shop teachers suggesting projects to test students aptitude. I've been slowly going through the projects myself. I was taught on the job and never had the theoretical training. I'm retired now and I get a great deal of joy finally appreciating the mathematics. This book, 101 projects to do on a lathe, has been a great way for me to discover the holes in my knowledge. I recently did the 94th project; it appeared simple at first, it was a jack, as in the game played with dice, about 10 inches across. It was surprisingly challenging and quite a bit of fun, I think many students would really enjoy this project. It requires a surprisingly large number of processes for such a simple form. I think maybe this book used to be quite popular, I poked around on eBay and found quite a few oversized jacks that were turned. It seems that most people use them as a bookend or a door stop. I have lots of interesting oddities in my home, for whatever reason that Big Jack catches every single visitor's eye.

[@jpsimon206]

I wish I had a link, but a number of years ago I stumbled across a video on KZbin that was clearly filmed with a camcorder probably in the late seventies. It was this guy in Southern California demoing his new product, EDM. At the time, it was a much more primitive and violent operation. He used an old radial arm drill, and a giant welder with a bunch of additional capacitors I believe. He would use these great big brass drifts that would disappear after only two or three zaps. The video was him explaining his invention. He had been a Job shop prior to this and invented the machine on the weekends. He carved himself out a pretty sweet little niche for tremendously expensive parts from other machine shops when something went horribly wrong. The example he's demonstrating in the video is a tap that got broken off in a custom-made performance engine block after every other operation had been completed. A helicoil was not acceptable in this application. I know I haven't given you anything to go on, but it's worth searching for this video. I guess I also don't know if it's true that he was the inventor, but I am confident he did not knowingly steal the idea. It was wildly inefficient, in just that video he probably vaporized $30 worth of brass to extract a single broken 3/8 tap

[@r.j.sworkshop7883]

Machine Shop Training Course, Vol 1 and 2 is my go to of this style book. Even a bit older than this one, but still very relevant. I will keep an eye out for a copy of Machine Shop Operations and Setups. Looks like a nice read. Thanks for sharing.

[@StuartdeHaro]

I'm going to be reviewing that one soon

[@metalworksmachineshop]

my shop is full of out dated machines,, this book is prefect for it.

[@tilliesinabottle]

It's a pretty comprehensive book. I'm most of the way through it, In the chapter on gear cutting now. There are a couple of books like this too, and Machine Shop Practice by Karl Moultrecht is pretty similar, though not as much like a textbook as this one. The pictures and drawings are great in this one, especially the exploded drawing with the plastic sheets. It seems that Cincinnatti really put funding into education because both books use Cincinnatti horizontal mills as models for how milling machines are operated.

[@santopezzotti730]

Thanks Stuart I try not to miss any of your videos but I’m a 72-year-old newbie I’ve been to auctions recently picked up a fair amount of car by tool holders and carbide inserts I’m not 100% sure of how do you match up the carbide insert with the carbide tool holder after being on Facebook over the weekend I found out that there is a pad or a spacer that sometimes shows up underneath the carbide insert on a car by tool holder I was wondering if you’ve done any videos to try to help an old guy out like me with this issue I have a fair amount of carbide inserts different sizes and shapes and a fair amount of carbide to holders I’m just missing the link to match them up any help would be greatly appreciate it

[@StuartdeHaro]

That's a common request. I've got some research to do to make sure I don't steer anyone the wrong way, but I'll get to it.

[@santopezzotti730]

@@StuartdeHaro thanks I have a bunch of both but can’t put them together.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Looks like a good book . My introduction to cnc was on punch card machines !

[@StuartdeHaro]

My dad worked at a company that used a big mainframe that ran off punch cards. He brought home boxes of the things when they went out of business and we did a lot of arts and crafts with them as kids.

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

I was thinking we were around the same age Max, but you must be a tad bit older. We used 5 1/4 floppy disks for our programs back in my college classes.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

@@hilltopmachineworks2131 I was about 4 i think when Dad got us all up to watch Neil Armstrong walk on the moon on the tv !

[@dannywilsher4165]

Looks like a good book to me. Thanks for sharing!

[@StuartdeHaro]

You're welcome. I'm going to do a bunch more book reviews so stay tuned.

[@dannywilsher4165]

@@StuartdeHaro Good deal. I'll be here with eager anticipation!

[@kitmaira]

I bought this book at your suggestion and am enjoying it very much. A lot to learn there. Could you do a tutorial on the vernier bevel protractor, including the acute angle attachment ? I understand how to read a vernier scale, but I cannot find anything on KZbin on this accessory, and do not understand it’s use. My protractor is a Starrett. Almost every video I have found is from India, and very difficult to understand. Thank you very much, I have learned a lot from your channel.

[@StuartdeHaro]

I don't have one of those, but I think I can get access to one. Let me see what I can do.

[@terrycannon570]

Thanks Stuart I never miss a chance to learn something about Setups especially from the Old Mossbacks. I love following projects that are posted on You Tube but You could call me a Gleaner because I am constantly trying to glean unique setups and unique tools. Stuart I went to Amazon and found the book but before I click buy do you have an Amazon store page ? If so I would buy it off your page.

[@StuartdeHaro]

Hi Terry. Here is an Amazon affiliate link for the book. amzn.to/3w2HFrd

[@trollforge]

Thanks Stuart, how does the price compare to Machinery's Handbook?

[@StuartdeHaro]

Quite a bit lower. Less than $30. What's MH now? $80 to $90?

[@trollforge]

@@StuartdeHaro Machinery's Handbook was a required text when I took my course in 1986-87, it was over $100 then... (22nd Revised Edition) so I bought used Original 22nd... Which unfortunately was destroyed in a flood... I have 24th now got it at a charity shop where all hard covers were $5!

[@StuartdeHaro]

@@trollforge That is a steal! The best book deal I've ever gotten was a copy of Machine Tool Reconditioning for $2 at a flea market. It was in brand new condition and at the time sold for $90. I'll have to show that off in a video.

[@trollforge]

@@StuartdeHaro Yes, please do!

[@Rustinox]

I don't have a book :( If I need to know something, I look it up on line. There's a lot to find, except for shapers. And also, on line you don't have this wonderful smell of an old book.

[@StuartdeHaro]

They do smell nice.

[@mariojacob363]

How can I avail.sir

[@jpsimon206]

I outsourced my book report. The translated summary is damn near unreadable! In all seriousness, I believe I have a rare talent for deciphering instruction manuals that originate in the east. We have all dealt with this frustration, I recently bought several complicated things that required multiple read throughs of the manual. Something starts to happen after your 5th or 6th read through, it almost starts to make sense. So I've been considering offering this translation service online. I would love to offer my services directly to the manufacturers, but I don't speak Chinese. Do you think a service like this could have actual utility? Or to ask in a different way, have you bought items from overseas that you would have paid $10 extra if the instructions were written by a native English speaker? How do you think would be the best way to market this? I'm banking on no one else having the patience to read through that many times looking for common sense.

[@jpsimon206]

I'm a big fan of older machining books myself. I'm always very surprised when I find a very useful tip that this somehow escaped general machinist consciousness. I think you missed one of the main reasons these older texts are more valuable than new; the quality of the images. When you buy books from the turn of the century, there are excellent etchings and exploded views that I personally find far more helpful than text. All of the books from the '70s up use shitty black and white photographs. Modern textbooks have much better quality photos, but I think an etching is much better when it comes to diagnosis or simply trying to identify a part that fell off! I strictly run manual equipment usually from the 1940s. I've noticed with this older equipment, it was quite common for there to be a folder inside an access hatch with an exploded view. The remarkable thing is that these are not necessarily produced by the manufacturer. Some have been drawn by a millwright, some by operators. They used to also keep something akin to a Carfax, a list of what repairs or modifications were made and on what date. Nowadays it's rare to have model numbers not rubbed off and virtually every auction machine is divorced from its accessories. The machines have only gotten more expensive and more complicated, why did this practice end? I can't understand it from an economic nor common Sense standpoint. Perhaps it is like heavy equipment? Virtually nobody buys it, they lease through the manufacturer?

[@steran50]

Looks like a really good book even though it's a bit out of date.

[@jpsimon206]

There's other people that read? Like actual books? I thought I was the only one with this disgusting habit

[@TheAyrCaveShop]

Lol !

[@larrymasterspowerbuildingc4477]

Thank you! I will buy this book, and I want to supplement it with a modern book for apprentices, one with the most recent copyright that is copmprehensive for the apprentices like me. What book do you recommend for that? Thank you!