StarCraft Remastered FIGHT CLUB Ep. 2

[@aceshighdueceslow]

at first I thought it wasn't fair for the army fight because Zerg had no lurkers, but then I noticed that Protoss had no high templar and the reavers were stuck at the back. Aiur was lost due to poor logistics, it would appear

[@feliperojas-doomride]

I always thought of zerg as protoss killers, protoss as terran killers, and terran as zerg killers

[@aceshighdueceslow]

@@feliperojas-doomride StarCraft is designed well enough there isn't too much of a rock-paper-scissors design to it, what it's really going to come down to is management, hence why the Reavers ended up being relatively useless in this engagement

[@feliperojas-doomride]

@@aceshighdueceslow I'm aware, SC is pretty well balanced. It's just a general impression I have ever since I first played the game as a kid

[@JGD_CZE]

@@feliperojas-doomride This is kinda correct at lower levels. Zerg have easier time countering protoss (Zergs mutalisk opening is so easy to execute that Protoss have to either cannon everything (expensive and turtly), use corsairs (which sacrifices ground army) or be aggresive (which is not that easy considering Sunken colonies are strongest anti ground static defense building)). Protoss on the other hand can just build "Protoss army" Dragoons with range and zealots with speed, send it against terran in waves and terran just cannot beat it with marines, so he have to tech into much stronger per-resource but much more control intensive units like vultures and tanks. So Protoss just use 1a2a3a4a, whereas Terran have to lay mines, siege tanks, micro vultures which lose even to zealots without micro... and have more difficult building management (machine shops, scvs are busy building...) And Terran have very strong marine push, which can kill most zergs outright if not countered properly. Marines are good against all zerg units just until ultralisks or Lurkers, but lurkers are quite micro intensive and can still be killed by marines with little micro if left undefended. Strong opening of Zerg is mutalisk but they are countered by marines so Zerg have to micro like hell to get any benefit out of them. Higher you go you will find that the "losing side" options are much stronger but more difficult. On higher levels (B rank plus) the differences are like 52/48 or 51/49. "Easier race" is still easier to controll.

[@zygo0]

Protoss commander is like, “we need a wider path!”

[@StuGames]

You liked the first episode, so here's more! Using abilities was the most common request, so I gave it a shot with the High Templar. Unfortunately the AI can't really use abilities in this game, so I have to control them manually. Let me know what you think! If you like these videos, you can support the channel at www.buymeacoffee.com/RTSStu Cheers!

[@skyisthelimit5078]

Thanks man! Enjoyed it!

[@ThyPandora]

Thanks bud, appreciate it! Keep it up! =)

[@haraldzimmermann3274]

Thx! I loved it😁🤗 Very nice work and awesome Videos!

[@R3DT1D3]

I thought they could still stim marines/firebats in the scenario editor but I could be wrong.

[@bramlibra22]

Moreeeeeee loved it

[@user-xu2pi6vx7o]

Warcraft 2 music was unexpected and awesome.

[@stardust6004]

Indeed!

[@thefamilycat86]

Indeed. A lot of nostalgia 😎

[@hydralizk6631]

WELL THANKS NOW I EXPECT IT!

[@Turkisshh2]

Card to Play from Wings of Liberty, cutscene where Jimmy, Tychus and a wing of Banshees save Gen Warfied's ass from terrible terrible damage. edit: Whoops, I read it as SC2, not WC2...

[@blobdffoo819]

Oh wow yeah, this was amazing to here ! Some really old memories back then

[@nguyenphamthanhgiang8951]

Local SCVs tried to tickle Ultralisk to death...

[@quantumpanic]

An attempt was made

[@user-xu2pi6vx7o]

Credit where it's due. They did manage to take out one of them.

[@user-xu2pi6vx7o]

@@Yiazmat93 I can imagine the afterlife conversation. Zerg 1: I died taking on an entire protoss armada. Zerg 2: I died getting nuked from orbit by the terrans. Ultalisk: I.... Um... Was tickled to death by a thousand SCVs...

[@SoldierOfFate]

@@user-xu2pi6vx7o **both Zerg 1 and Zerg 2 proceed to laugh themselves to death and get sent to the after-afterlife**

[@user-xu2pi6vx7o]

@@SoldierOfFate Ultralisk then dies of embarrassment and gets sent to the same after afterlife as zergs 1 and 2.

[@Seedmember]

"You begin to annoy me cerebrate" Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuse me princess.

[@wowditto]

That animated speed run of Breath of the Wild, nice one man

[@prod.bypanya4355]

This is how I actually picture starcraft battles happening

[@BirdmanDeuce26]

All fun aside, it really hammers home just how critical positioning and maneuvering can be; many of these battles would’ve had different outcomes had units been able to successfully flank and surround their opponents

[@antiadolph]

I died at "this is very interesting but stupid" XD

[@asuncionpryor946]

Valkyrie took the words right out of my mouth.

[@jeffsproul1281]

It's like she knew. D:

[@dmtrederi]

Nice!!

[@cursedhawkins1305]

I like to see that as a Blizzard developer putting a bit of their own kind of commentary into the unit's lines when their getting annoyed, because Devourers need to be supported with Mutas in order to be effective as both attacks also complement each other since the Muta's attack can hit at max three targets and the Devourers can hit multiple targets with theirs due to the splash. Are there cases where single unit spam can work in StarCraft? Yes, but that's mostly in the campaigns where single unit spam can sometimes be what wins you that level but if you're wanting to take the game seriously and be competitive then you need to think of more factors such as how well your army completements each unit within that army and how quickly you can respond to unit counters.

[@Yetidelamontagne]

I'm impressed, these rounds are balanced enough that it's never easy to be sure who is gonna win. Nice job here

[@Archery527]

Yeah except Ultra vs SCV

[@ЮраПрудской]

@@Archery527 I actually forgot about 'full upgrades' and was sure SCV would win.

[@danm2084]

@@Archery527 i gotta be honest that was the only one i predicted correctly. Well, and the templars i got right.

[@TheLegend-yb4ok]

you think he didnt checked before hand?

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Well, it can also depend on how units behave with their pathing and attack patterns, such as the lurkers vs zealots, the lurker's attack can hit multiple targets as it goes and because the zealots were bunching up like they were it was allowing the lurkers to get some early damage in on the zealots behind the others, its why micro-management when fighting lurkers is extremely advised because one unit can be used to bait the lurker's attack while other units that can out range them like siege tanks shred them apart.

[@circulationfuze3986]

Now I don't need to worry about enemy having 1000 Devourers.

[@digi_edits]

The Valkyries one was very satisfying to watch.

[@PhishmongerJet]

I was surprised the scvs even killed 1 ultra

[@alekto101]

I agree!

[@Mou3allembelgayb]

Chitinous armor. Elemental my dear Watson

[@zxbzxbzxb1]

They didn't, the vet's report after the autopsy recorded that it died of natural causes, heart failure to be precise.

[@cocomunga]

Here’s an idea for the next episode- Marines/Firebats/Ghosts and Medics severely outnumbered against various things.

[@ashvermilion]

@@Yiazmat93 I love this idea xD

[@ShylliosDruid]

500 marines vs 2500 ultras :3

[@Badj4s]

This is great to watch when you're high. Thanks!

[@tomcatter2027]

That protoss lay out at the end was entirely worng

[@borntorice]

Warcraft music. Shell we have Warcraft fight club???

[@lazlo686]

Yes please we need a Warcraft 2 fight club

[@DFuxaPlays]

Warcraft 3 might also be worthy - but then.... do we really want to even think about that?

[@JohnnyCasey]

Warcraft 2 fight club will not have much value, since the units of both races are almost identical to one another. Warcraft 3 COULD work, but the game is not meant to have this massive size of army fighting each other.

[@EMDakka]

@@lazlo686 the only difference between orcs and humans on wc2 are the spells on the paladin/ogre magi (with bloodlust being close to OP), and magi/death knights with some advantage to the orcs i think and the last upgrade of elven ranger vs troll berserker, with the ranger being way better

[@johnnylah5058]

3:26 this is epic

[@srgfubar]

I loved the little tidbits of info you added in to explain the powers and effects! Great job man!

[@alekto101]

That's true! I was today years old when I learned what the zerg spores of the guardians really do.

[@alanhernandez6762]

PLZ EPISODIE 3 I LOVE YOU

[@cupquakesmasher]

No joke, I predicted every one right. A big part of it is which side had more reliable splash and efficient units. Like in the last battle, if the toss had access to storms it would've been a land slide.

[@Odinoian]

Great video! The Devouerer vs Valkyrie match was awesome. When I saw the numbers I thought the Devourers would win for sure and the match kept switching who was on top!

[@GoDilmar]

HOW DO YOU DO THAT? Do you do it with scmdraft? because when I put all the factions options and everything does not come out the same I put with map settings: c

[@genesiswan4018]

Definitely explained why Aiur fell to the Zerg...Oops

[@goransekulic3671]

ACKTYUALLY! Zerg still didn't have Devos at that moment, so this could've gone the other way. Don't think that Corsairs brought that much to this fight in comparison to Devo / Guard tandem.

[@squallangels]

With storms the zerg would have die very quick

[@Noah-zz8uw]

@@goransekulic3671 Yeah, those Guardians with the Hydralisks are some of the most powerful ranged attackers in Brood War right? I just saw them deleting the Protoss ground army and thought the same thing.

[@Insomnia1234o00o]

I mean the guy gave the zerg AI a bunch of Hydralisk while denying the Protoss any storm... it's not a fair fight to begin with.

[@EMDakka]

@@Insomnia1234o00o I think that a change in formation would actually make the protoss win, If the corsairs took the point, they'd kill the scourge, and the scouts would then be able to help more. also the reavers got stuck BADLY behind the archons.

[@russellclark5705]

I think the biggest surprise in all of this was hearing the Warcraft II music start to play.

[@PrimumGenus]

very educational. it demonstrates that macroing a particular unit can be wasteful, while having the correct strategic unit matters more than price.

[@r4dios1lence92]

First time I noticed the numbers was during the Devourers VS Valkyries, and also noticed that it shows ordered by who has the most units on top. Would be nice to see the percentage of remaining units too, since it makes more sense in outnumbered situations. Don't think sum of remaining HP/sum of total HP (in percentage) would be doable, but could also work. Canon + Pylons VS Infested Terrans also made me question which situations positioning can change the result of the battle, as in "line against line VS surrounded box". Since most of the time action is actually limited to only a small part of units in these large scale, with enough numbers it's unlikely positioning would change much, but got me curious anyway. Interesting series! Good job!

[@QuietThePro]

I do love that you added variety with different games. I think another good one would be Age Of Empires 2, especially since it got re released with the definitive edition

[@EMDakka]

AoE isnt that good to do that because aside from civ bonuses and unique units, the different civs are mostly simmetrical, or the counters are so blatant that there's little room for upsets. (See Spirit of the Law's channel)

[@njalsand133]

Yeah, needs to be an asymmetrical strategy game with an editor... They're kinda rare, are they not?

[@WJen8]

This was very well made and such a blast to watch! Thanks! 😁💯

[@justaguy5266]

That marines against high Templar was like soldiers life in WW1

[@alekto101]

True! It somehow resembled the battle of the somme or something.

[@alekto101]

I pity the marines there. It somehow looked like they were born to litter that snowy corridor with their blood and guts. Imagine all the widows and orphans they're leaving behind!

[@spectre2635]

The protoss would have won if the carriers had drones

[@fantasticslaughtership9945]

or if the dragoons were in front of the reavers

[@ColonelRosa]

Or if you replace any of the unit type with more Corsair. Once they hit critical mass they’re unstoppable, and without guardians Zerg would not win the ground fight either

[@CarinoGamingStudio]

its not drones its called interceptors.

[@KiwiImpactSaint]

Or get a few high templars to cast psychic storms.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

@@ColonelRosa Did you miss the Devourers? having a bunch of Corsairs bunched up just makes easy stacks of their acid spores which reduce enemy armor AND RoF.

[@newfacepaula]

i must say those SCV have a huge balls for taking out an Ultralisk. a couple of years and maybe those SCV's can beat a Xel'Naga or Amon.

[@DFuxaPlays]

Likely would have been better with the Protoss Probes or Zerg Drones. Should try them.

[@antiadolph]

Maybe half the number of SCVs and allow them to repair will bring a more interesting result

[@PappaAbe]

That was some Starship Troopers stuff with the High Templars and the Marines

[@Art42209]

Fight club + Supreme commander = YES

[@mekolame]

I love these more than the C&C but both are good. thanks man I enjoy watching these with my dad since we both love these types of games.

[@EMDakka]

4:10 Incoming Warcraft 2 music! also for the Protoss vs Zerg fight, I think the protoss can win if they change up their formation, put the corsairs before the Scouts, and the reavers before the archons.

[@JacobM1230]

50/50 on predictions. I immediately was like, "Should've been 10 Ultralisks. This one is a gimme." lol. I hope you do more of these episodes. I'm subscribing for these. These are really fun.

[@Flamingcloud083]

I assume unupgraded the scvs win with ease..

[@JGalt-em4xu]

The ultralisk battle reminds me when I'd put 500+ clubmen vs. 1 war elephant in the 1st aoe. Fun stuff

[@LuisCCGarcia]

Against the CPU, I always loved to build a lot of Protoss carriers, the tiny drones they release, are difficult to get hit, and you can order the carriers to build more, it's fun to see the "hive" of drones putting the enemies to the ground.

[@sharpisharp]

i enjoy these videos SO much!! :D thank you!

[@nk-nx3bh]

That scv and ultralisk fight is like 100 convenience store staff vs 5 robbers with shotgun 😂

[@ItsAnuTGamer]

1:46 battle of thermopylae be like

[@fyzabadsfynest]

Zerg 4 LIFE !!!! Lol man this was so satisfying to watch 😂😂👌👏👏

[@aggrael8285]

Did you do the HT storms? As someone who plays BW they looked really good. Were you playing on Fastest speed or normal? Great video, hope to see more soon!

[@StuGames]

Let's just say I couldn't play like that on Fastest speed :p

[@feels4941]

very nice, thank you. also poor Reavers and carriers couldn't restock to continue fighting.

[@jonsimpson6690]

At 4:10, I thought in starcraft the valkryies had a limit to how much missiles could be shot at the same time on screen since theres too much units

[@YasonYou]

Devourer + guardian mass combo is too good.

[@SuperCosmicSpaceMagnet]

Haven't even watched this yet, but I am SO glad there is a second one. I adored the first :D

[@RAEN74]

Love this! Honestly going to make this a drinking game with my friends lol

[@bruce0917]

holy shit... warcraft 2 music!!! work complete! jobs done!! ready to serve my lord!!!

[@牙籤-q3y]

ok have to admit merge→hallucination is pretty smart

[@gdblackthorn4137]

These are great examples of how micro managing your units is extremely important. Once the carriers are out of attack ships they are worthless...

[@s-man5647]

so proud of the valkyries T_T

[@res0zsfa]

wow, surprised some ultras survived in the last battle. those things are running tanks

[@syuu-ji4nf]

Very Good Video! Really love this

[@daddygainz3847]

Did you get a copyright strike for the music you used?

[@jameshudson6080]

Wasn't there a bug with the valks that if you make too many of them they stop attacking? Or is that fixed?

[@xxxxSylphxxxx]

This is why I love starcraft! 🖤. The difference a little micromanagement makes! 🖤 (And there were still some I got horrendously wrong, like protoss army vs zerg army! I thought protoss would win in a landslide!!)

[@Larsgman]

I seriously can’t believe the lurkers in the beginning won. And that’s because there was no terrain advantage and the zealots had them surrounded.

[@mopbrothers]

How do you get more than 200 units on the map at once? What program do you use?

[@123TauruZ321]

Hehe, great editing on these. Warcraft 2 music is nice.

[@XtReMz98]

I’m glad you went for an episode 2! It was nutz!

[@nath_rages]

If you think I'm going to subscribe after having watched this little demonstration, then you're absolutely correct. Amazing video! Can't wait for more 😁

[@deneshkandiah2194]

Can you include heros as well, like the tassadar-zeratul archon? Maybe vs others heros or maybe against regular units just to show how good they are?

[@islanddrone1643]

Well edited videos with good quality nice

[@rockeazymatt]

I liked the Warcraft 2 music for background

[@Neilhammond64]

Zapp Brannigan was commanding those marines.

[@ononturmandakh7943]

Devourer and Valkry battle was intense

[@許鎬元]

Don’t try to take down the missile launcher with only one shot attack.

[@groinBlaster31]

Hmm whoever is at a numerical disadvantage seemed to win most of the time

[@yellowchocolate8539]

Wow I enjoyed this!

[@estellebright2579]

Starcraft almost guarantees 10 episodes at the very least. Looking forward for more. Maybe don’t use volcano background. Zerg units are very difficult to see. Not sure if you want AI to rebuild interceptors and scarabs. If rebuild is allowed, some matchups could be quite different, especially when carrier is involved. The last PvZ fight would be a bit different if carrier can replenish interceptors. Half of the time they are just idle and cannot attack.

[@lulavivafrita9826]

I didn't see any interceptors really in the army fight... But that all was totally awesome!!!

[@StuGames]

they got destroyed too quickly :)

[@jariojario99]

the last part reminds me of my high school freshman days. epic massive army. who’s gonna win!?. so awesome

[@smoati9ap309]

Beauty. Awesomeness. Art.

[@Forsparda]

I''ll be honest I dont remember lurkers being that strong and I am shocked the devourers lost vs the valks I knew valks were strong but i thought with the slime the zerg were going to pull out a tight victory there

[@jrdnruiz2]

Devourers attack speed is dreadfully slow. They are considered one of the most useless units in Starcraft and are almost never used. Same with guardians, very slow and squishy. Brood Lords and Corruptors were good replacements.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Devourers and Guardians do well in their respective roles, expecting them to get things done on their own is a stupid expectation and you will be punished for it in-game as even the StarCraft handbook will inform you that such a tactic is a stupid one and will easily be countered, both units complement their weakness along with Muta support so they are best played alongside one another because your enemy has to be able to counter both the Guardians and the Devourers instead of just one or the other, something even those Brood Lords and Corruptors in StarCraft 2 STILL require you to do because once again they both complement their weakness which is one's vulnerable to ground targets and one's vulnerable to air targets!

[@MainTopmastStaysail]

Devourers are more for support than killing themselves. Devourers with some mutas thrown in would have fared much better.

[@milosjovic4382]

So cool !!! Thanks!

[@maximus28549]

1:40 back in sc1 this is called the Protoss meat grinder. It is still workable in sc2 today 6:58 what you ran out of marines?

[@Noah-zz8uw]

Awesome work as always Stu!

[@arturkaczan1776]

4:42 warcraft 2 sound nice :) nice content :)

[@mikerya7282]

Очень зрелищные битвы! Спасибо!

[@MrMrsean212]

I use to always do these battles in the editor loved it ✌

[@mrLumen2]

Самые эпичные битвы в истории: - Ахиллес против Апполона. - Майк Тайсон против Холифилда. - 15 Ультралисков против 1000 SCV.

[@yummyfunnybunny5167]

The lurker vs zealot battle had my heart racing!

[@charlykoparabola7940]

+1 for the warcraft 2 music

[@wowditto]

When the Devourer's were bunched i was like oh no... Valks got this now

[@byronswain7569]

That valyrie fight is so cool looking!

[@ultraspec842]

Nostalgia intensified when Warcraft 2 music started playing

[@DicGrayson]

Great video mate loved it

[@guyincognito1406]

Oh sweet you tested the nofire outright

[@thecryingweaboo]

I love hearing the Tide of Darkness theme

[@StriKe_jk]

Valks winning much closer than I expected

[@jonathangable1404]

I LOVE THIS

[@chrisf6657]

i appreciate the warcraft 2 music

[@briant4326]

how did you make these? is there a map you use? like a unit tester or something?

[@StuGames]

I make my own maps with the map editor!

[@skippythealien9627]

I knew right away the devourers were going to lose lol

[@quillquickcard8824]

It might need to have the numbers adjusted for maximum spectacle but: 100 bunkers each with 4 firebats vs 1000 zerglings

[@MaiAolei]

And the family of the one Ultralisk that fell to SCVs from henceforth lived in shame, ostracized by the swarm.

[@EMDakka]

Abathur: faulty strain, must discard, focus on other mutations, evolve swarm. Never speak of that failure again.

[@VieneLea]

You're so good at balancing those I half expected valkyries to kill all the devourers and then die from spore damage

[@EMDakka]

Except the spores deal no damage whatsoever.

[@VieneLea]

@@EMDakka What? Don't they deal some damage when they expire? You live and learn!

[@EMDakka]

@@VieneLea nope, the spores themselves deal 0 damage, they lower the armor and the fire rate of the affected units, but all of the devourer's damage comes from the impact of the shot, not from the spore effect

[@VieneLea]

@@EMDakka Yeah, I googled it out of shock. I was so sure 20 years ago when I played with them that they did that, huh.

[@TotoyDestiny]

Devourer not really a damaging unit.... those spores is much more a debuffer (degrading armor, lower firerate, anti-cloaking)

[@jancarlowalo7219]

first time i saw how the valkyries attacked, i knew they would come on top

[@123TauruZ321]

I have some suggestions, in terms of roughly equal value: Wraiths vs Scouts. Valkyries vs Corsairs. Battlecruisers vs Carriers or Scouts, and Battlecruisers vs Devourers. Dark templars vs Ultralisks.

[@temputa]

this is art