Stupid Internet Gun Stuff - Polishing Triggers

[@gunnuts82]

It’s 100% proven to lighten trigger pull by polishing 2 metals that rub each other. Just don’t go crazy and you’ll be fine.

[@majorpayne5289]

Agreed

[@fci501]

100%

[@sweetbonney1482]

Where in the video did James say polishing didn’t lighten trigger pull?

[@lukassvoboda9530]

Yeah, just look at those stock parts with microscope. They are mess... Litle bit of polishing will do no harm.

[@THEWILLYEFFECT]

He’s dead now.

[@lukassvoboda9530]

​@@THEWILLYEFFECT Nope, enjoy your stock trigger 👍

[@THEWILLYEFFECT]

@@lukassvoboda9530 I was just letting you know the dude has passed. I dont do stock triggers

[@Cooldibs]

I don’t see how you could remove enough metal in hand polishing to wear thorough the hardened surface. We’re talking about removing microns of material.

[@charlescole5214]

I would like to see a vid of you removing .000078 of material by hand. Total curiosity. Thats some outstanding fine motor skills you have. I generally have a heavy touch. I'm a CNC machinist by trade, 25 years. Your mics that have .0001 graduations cant measure a micron. You're in CMM territory for measuring.

[@rstlr73]

agree man . ive had some terrible triggers . you can fix most of them . some you cant . i have a earlier ruger 10 22 . it was 6.5 pounds , and terrible . fixxed it and its awesome . just my 2 cents

[@RolandtheThompsonGunner]

​@@rstlr73I agree

[@dylanrutan100]

James you can’t be making Marines think their rifles have chocolate on the inside...

[@hansorsic7387]

i didnt find any chocolate in mine

[@Demonlord468]

He said Chocolate not Crayons no worries.

[@johnwilburn]

The first day of the first class I took at Thunder Ranch, Clint Smith told us the best trigger job is firing 1,000 rounds.

[@pcnorton]

I picked up new SW model 36. One weekend of dry firing and the crap trigger was great. my hand, not so much.

[@collinweinheimer1056]

1000 rounds and a trigger job will be better. I like the idea that somehow people use tinkering on their gun as a replacement for actual trigger time but that's never the case

[@fci501]

@@collinweinheimer1056 if Clint supplies that 1000rounds that yes. otherwise, polish!

[@solosportbikerider5734]

That's what I'm thinking about 👍

[@bwspacity]

I polish the rough parts the company didnt.i never mess with trigger.the price of a firearm to not be done that way is beyond me.and dont get me started on sealing cheap metals.all my handguns are smooth as butter .before the polish not so much.jmo

[@tallzdatank]

My friend asked me to do a trigger job on his hunting rifle, I took out my scale and measured it at 4 pounds. He said, "that's too heavy, and it's got a little hump before it breaks." I told him it's not too heavy. 4 pounds is fine, and the hump before it breaks is just slack. I can polish the trigger on that gun, and he'll be back with his next one, and the next one, and the next one. Or he can go polish the shooter, and be able to shoot any gun well.

[@rstlr73]

good point but , some factory triggers are well above 4 pounds .

[@Durado545x39]

I'll usually work at a trigger till I get it to 2 pounds. I've found that to plenty light and still safe enough

[@ZootyZoFo]

The Glock .25 cent trigger job is a well established process that makes the trigger pull smother and only .5 pounds lighter and does not make it more dangerous in any way. Some of us just like to tweak our firearms and polishing certain trigger parts & feed ramps are just part of that process.

[@onenikkione]

"You can't polish a Turd but you can roll it in glitter"

[@jamesnapier107]

I wonder if Johnny Glock has seen this video yet

[@daa3417]

I don’t believe any of the parts people polish in a Glock are case hardened, several of them are plated and likely through hardened . I’m at a loss here, it seems you’re saying shooting frequently will do the same thing as polishing while at the same time arguing that doing it with polish will destroy the integrity of the parts. If that were true you would be destroying your metal parts by doing your 1000 rounds or whatever people equivocate it to these days. Removing burrs and polishing bearing surfaces cannot damage the heat treatment of those parts, you’re barely adding any heat and you shouldn’t even be going through the surface plating. I would never hear someone in the automotive industry claim polishing bearing surfaces in an engine will ruin the engine… It reduces friction and it costs next to nothing, it certainly costs less than 1000 rounds especially in a 10mm like a G20. It will not make you a better shooter, it will simply skip most of the break in and give you a more consistent/smooth trigger pull.

[@aakoksal]

Case hardening: Impregnating carbon into the surface. M&M analogy is actually very fitting. Surface hardness protects the part from erosion and the ductile center helps avoid breakage. It is called case hardening because it is actually done in a metal box (case) with carbon/charcoal dust.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Yes, I know.

[@aakoksal]

@@TacticalResponseCrew :) I wrote that for those that didn't know, public service...

[@BigFunkyy]

@@TacticalResponseCrew Yeah bud, guys like you know it all.

[@Bwnunley320]

I couldn’t hit anything with my Glock. I polished the trigger and improved dramatically. Just kidding.

[@ihateyoufyad]

You still can’t hit anything

[@Dan-di9jd]

I think most people don't "polish" it enough to cause any noticeable damage other than just have a clean trigger.

[@joshuajones518]

Long ago I polished my mil spec trigger on my AR, but I would never keep polishing it. Breaks like glass.

[@johnkruer7557]

James, from an engineer, that is a great case hardened explanation.

[@dylanegan9398]

There's always that engineer....

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

I do my best John.

[@Saanonymous80]

To an engineer from everyone that has to have worked on a newer car 🖕

[@lorenhughes5005]

Engineers are divas

[@ramohino]

From a Heat Treat Quality Manager, that is a great case hardened explanation.☺

[@DanielWillis1982]

The Glock my wife shot in Raton was a new gen 3 and the trigger is smoother now after almost 1000 rounds

[@sully138]

I don’t polish my carry gun but my competition gun I definitely polish. Depends on your goals for the tools you’re using.

[@135791113ful]

Took Fighting Pistol this week. Great class! My head is still reeling from all the info. James gave us a great lecture and the instructors were awesome. They kept 30 students safe, and managed to keep the class personable. Thanks for a great experience Tactical Response staff. I will be back.

[@jbrannon509]

Indeed. I was lucky enough to have James there when I took Fighting Pistol. I really enjoyed all of his instructors but hanging with Yeager was icing on the cake. He did our lecture as well.

[@jbrannon509]

@@darklight4815 They shouldn't have had to "come up" with ammo if they've been taking James' advice the last few years.

[@135791113ful]

@@darklight4815 I heeded Yeagers advice years ago when he said we were living in the "good old days" at that point. And he was was right. Here we are with limited ammo. Glad I listened.

[@135791113ful]

@@jbrannon509 Yeah brother. It was a great time. I want to do the force on force class next. Should be an eye opener.

[@cml44spec1]

The old timers used to say the best way to get a smooth trigger on a smith revolver which way the standard of the day was shoot the hell out of it

[@Rev2DaLimit]

That's true. Wilson springs are good too. Older Smiths don't need a thing, imo.

[@reidmitchell1980]

Back when bread was 10 cents a loaf and bullets were free 😂😅

[@vitogriffin6575]

I always thought "polishing my trigger" was euphemism... Yikes. Guess I've been doing it wrong..

[@daveh7720]

You may have been thinking of "polishing your barrel." It's an easy mistake to make.

[@PlugNuster]

The only polishing I perform on my triggers is with my trigger finger. The more I polish, the better it gets. Training, training, training, rinse and repeat.

[@djay6651]

I can understand taking burrs off, but any decent gun shouldn't have burrs. I've seen at least one pistol that had a gritty trigger and a gritty slide. I don't know if that was because of poor manufacture or it was just dropped in the sand and not cleaned properly.

[@nathanh1582]

Polishing a trigger because of your aim is dumb. But polishing your tapco trigger in an ak gives you a buttery smooth trigger pull the wont happen naturally under a ridiculous number of rounds. Sometimes it's not stupid...

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

You have no idea what you are talking about.

[@BigFunkyy]

@@TacticalResponseCrew I agree with you this time this guy is an idiot.

[@curte6062]

I like the guys who try to tell you you need to take a Dremel to your feed ramp on your semi auto if it's not feeding consistently.

[@ryanmillis3648]

When I read the title of this video it made me smell 1911 guys? Just me?

[@Dontworrydude]

Without trying to, you crack me up man. Good content

[@Thebigman6401]

Best comment made when I went through Glock armorer class, if you want a 1911 type trigger, buy a 1911. Clean it once in a while, trace amount of oil on the metal on metal parts, dependable ammo, practice with it. Practice will both physically smooth it out a bit and build your ability and knowledge of the gun. Dept I’m at actually has decent shooters and we carry Glock 19 gen 5 and no problems. I’m not Rambo or spec ops super trooper but just an old basic rural cop for what it’s worth though.

[@cannaventureseeds2909]

Dont be a normal cop these days shitting on folks Constitutional, God given Rights. Be one of the few Good cops.. If thats a real thing. "Good" cops speak up and stop bad cops.

[@MrBerett315]

Polished my m&p trigger internals 15 years ago. Does IN FACT have a smoother trigger to this day... Around 7k rounds through it. It did lighten the trigger a lb or two but I do agree - people should not try to work past their abilities. That's a way to get an ER visit or worse

[@ArtisanTony]

Some day we will run quantum pooters to see if the internet helped or hurt mankind :)

[@derekddurbin]

James is 100% correct I’m a southpaw but a lot of things I’m ambidextrous on and I normally shoot right handed Glock 19 left hand is my support hand but in a drill I’m actually a more accurate shooter left handed I had no idea so now I train with my right hand still but I’ve been working more with my left so now that I’m shooting better I’m having to train everything else like reloads and malfunction drills left handed. As for polishing I wouldn’t advise it I’m a stock guy but I did buy a Gen3 G34 and sent it to Taran Tactical and did the combat master package I’ll leave it to the professionals but I’m sure you guys know better than me but if you polish the trigger assembly on a Beretta 92fs can’t you make it fully automatic?

[@yewtubedislikebutton3056]

“See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden jump up and grind my feet on somebody's couch like it's something to do? Come on. I got a little more sense then that. ...Yeah, I remember grinding my feet on Eddie's couch.”

[@lylesmith5079]

YOUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE FIGHT NEVER ENDS. How true.

[@caseyloftis]

I took a class from a guy that teaches trigger reset different then Tactical Response. I was slow grasping what he was teaching me so he demoed with my pistol. No joke he said "sweet trigger, oh wait that's stock.". Training makes not only you better, but you gear becomes squared away also.

[@caseyloftis]

@@Tinker.Studio have you taken Fighting Pistol?

[@edwardbentley]

Great video James! I know the most common failure in a semi auto pistol is the magazine, but last week I my trigger would not reset and upon inspection I found the striker had snapped in half. Just wondering if you have seen this as a recurrence?

[@edwardbentley]

Kyle Foster It’s a Glock.

[@RobertMcCune007]

I have polished some internals but not for accuracy it was to make things work smoother. you are correct though if you go to far the gun will become unsafe. When I first started doing this on my first attempt I turned a semi auto Glock 19 into a multiple round burst to full auto with every trigger pull (Not intentional) and had to replace some parts to correct this before I got arrested LOL. And no I am not telling anyone how to do this.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

So what training have you had?

[@solosportbikerider5734]

This polishing thing is not necessary just clean it normally and if it's badly rusted buy a brand new trigger.👍

[@anonymouslee2083]

What you described is exactly why I don’t do any job beyond drop in parts on my own.

[@puddintame6310]

Yeager know about tactics, he knows zero about triggers, so an ignorant person whose opinion you respect validated your ignorance.

[@carloparisi9945]

I used to have a PPK that had a very nice trigger, I didn't polish it, but I suspect somebody had done it before I owned it, or wear polished it. In a couple of years the hammer started self de-cocking by itself between shots. This scared me, I brought it to a gunsmith but he was unable to fix the problem and I got rid of the gun.

[@NoMerxySlimk2002]

All u had to do was replace the parts

[@carloparisi9945]

@@NoMerxySlimk2002 the gunsmith was unable to fix the problem, I'm not even a gunsmith

[@Demonlord468]

I polish ALL of the Triggers in every single Gun i own and it is by far the best polishing job i know of that actually works... It's called pulling that trigger and putting 1000 rounds through the gun. Its especially noticeable on Glocks but, even the cheap Taurus G2C ive had for going on its 3rd year it has a completely different and WAY better trigger now than when i first bought the gun with about 1700-1800 rounds through it 1200 of which was put through it the first 6-8 months i had it. I just wish i could afford (or find) more ammo to practice more especially since i have a range at my home now. Of course once i setup a nice range at my home the ammo apocalypse comes...

[@rpm2dayg648]

My trusty 4-1/2" angle grinder is all I need for home gunwrecking. I mean gunsmithing.

[@UncleFjester]

*It used to be called Mob Mentality, Its now called Social Media Cloned Stupidity*

[@RimfireAddicted70]

This is insanity!!! Yeager says using a gun is the best way to improve the trigger?!?! Everyone with any expertise knows you spend hours on the bench with dremel and then you only need minutes on the range to be a Pro Level 10 Ninja Special Forces Qualified shooter. Training LOL what does he know.

[@destynova4512]

Pretty much if you want to be good with your gun actually us it regularly. 9/10 times people that think the trigger is the problem are their own problem.

[@Jwilliamstech]

I have to disagree with James on this one, I have turned a scrappy trigger into a decent (not great) trigger with polishing.

[@terrancedixon6148]

Send me 500-1000 rounds, and I’ll stop polishing my gun parts. Send me 5-10 VAjay jays, and I’ll stop polishing me knob.

[@kasper7106]

I fell for the 25 cent trigger job and the 3.5lb ghost connector when I got my first glock about 15 years ago. Thats time and money I will never get back. I quickly learned that upgrading the sights is really all a Glock needs to be "Perfection"

[@Meatwad.Baggins]

Guns are so complex. Sometimes I feel like switching to ninja stars

[@joehill2172]

The more I watch your vids the more I appreciate your information and insight. Thank you.

[@Insert-name-here00]

James has a great point however in the days of striker fired polymer handguns quality of material s and parts has taken a dive. Just looks any factory glock trigger. Garbage.

[@sheerziggy]

Lol I polished a trigger once.... I always learn things the hard way.. but I never make the same mistake twice. Bought a gen 3 fire control group it was just a few pins and springs better than new and better than dremel go buzzzz!

[@DGV-11]

How about proper cleaning, lube, and gun grease?

[@Nonyabusiness911]

I have a polishing wheel. I could turn it into a mirror.

[@curiousman1672]

Heard several guys who I thought were reputable talk about polishing this or that. Mostly AR and revolver trigger parts. Was nearly (literally gonna get the supplies) to expertly (ha) work on my AR trigger. I really dislike it. But! When James Yeager says don't fuck with your triggers, I guess I won't fuck with my trigger. Timing is everything.

[@GrubbyPaddler]

Just save up and get a good drop in... that way there is a company to blame for your nd’s Or just not getting raked over the coals for your home gunsmithing abilities in front of 12 people too stupid not to get out of jury duty.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Get TRAINING.

[@BigFunkyy]

@@TacticalResponseCrew you really are redundant. Yes, instructor, we understand, you want us to purchase your courses. We get it, we need to train. You don't need to comment it under every post lol

[@scotticus26]

Parts and modifications will only empty the bank account. Training pays more dividends hands down everytime.

[@okiewindllc7]

I miss this guy although many things he said I didn’t agree with. Like this video lol. Yeah training is most important, I get it but it’s good to care for our tools and to make it just a little sweeter. Plus you get to know your guns better by doing so 🤷‍♂️

[@armeddiver]

I wish to God. More people got this message. There are way too many people out there that think polishing is a good idea, especially in the Glock Community.

[@RealDealAmerica]

I concur, there’s only negligent discharges

[@adam45011]

Everyone knows you need to stipple the inside of the barrel to prevent trigger jerking. Fact.

[@9mmthroatpunch211]

It's like people shaving metal off the slide stop on a smith and wesson shield so it becomes a slide release the problem is those parts will wear down a little and it's best just to shoot rounds through it and it will lighten overtime but if you shave metal off of it and you put a bunch of rounds through it then it won't stop the slide at all

[@wongchiehwa3322]

but why some of the IPSC expert polish some certain part event though they already have a smooth CZ trigger

[@wolffo999]

all you do is introduce creep into the system

[@fci501]

milling and filing is not polishing. you might need training on that.

[@FeelingTactical]

I actually took my after market trigger out of my glock when I took fighting pistol, I was able to hit the target when I needed to!

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

good advice, thanks

[@dirtmcgirt7125]

I use dialux to polish my watch cases.

[@Lame_Duck]

*Dejavu*... reminds me of the "Handgun DON'Ts"-Video 😅

[@jameskirk3]

Dremel tool should require a tax stamp lol

[@dennispinpin8257]

Isn't dremel for grinding? I used oil stone to polish, polishing not grinding.

[@ironhorse9639]

Agree

[@josephcastro5894]

Shell sure would be alot better with chocolate in the center. Just sayin.

[@eliasgordon4321]

Well that definitely runs counter to just about everything I've ever read, seen, or heard, but it's a fascinating point. That's an excellent point about surface hardening! I guess it's a good thing I got lazy and purchased a better trigger bar 😂

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Check people's resumes. 75,000 people have paid me for training. www.tacticalresponse.com/blogs/instructors/17196643-james-yeager

[@cameronh5442]

I want to see you do that shot with a sd9ve 😂

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

I can shoot them all.

[@stevenhollisjr2872]

My stock glock triggers get smooth the more I shoot them !

[@he1lr1ser]

After many iterations my g19 was simplified to: factory G17L smooth trigger face, bar, dc, and an apex striker safety plunger. Left the factory springs alone. No polishing or modification necessary.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Any training?

[@nicholashensley2018]

M&M analogy is fucking perfect

[@buckshotscott2616]

I bought a used Glock 34 a few years back that someone polished. First time at the range, she dump a full mag with the first pull of the trigger. Scared the shit out of me. Replaced the guts with all new factory parts. Some people are just idiots!

[@James-uq4wb]

I don't think Johnny Glock would agree with this guy...Just saying.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

Bone case hardening.

[@apbiggins8mm]

That was an awesome shot

[@christopherchapman8893]

Love your no BS and "let's skip the pretty and get to reality" videos. I have considered doing a DIY trigger polishing job on a 30-S not because I am a firearms expert and far from a gunsmith, but because I'm good with a Dremel and compound on (other) things; Therefore I'm an expert, right?.... Nope. I'm going to practice with the OEM system as is and consider a (professional) upgrade down the road. Thanks for making this direct and clear. I never considered the case hardened aspect and I could have not only ruined my trigger system, but made a detrimental and unsafe decision.... Subscribed and geep it up. Good stuff, Sir. Chapman

[@richarddeveas4537]

M&M! Brilliant analogy!

[@WornoutRNPARAMEDIC]

Great as always, James. Thanks as always for your information, time, and all the effort & your money you put into making your videos here the best out here.

[@TacticalResponseCrew]

Much appreciated!

[@Bobbossi]

Excellent, point home gunsmithing, like home dentistry is not wise. .. Love your videos

[@anonymouslee2083]

True. I wouldn’t really recommend doing anything beyond drop in kits at home. Anything beyond that should be left to a licensed gunsmith, especially where physically grinding material off of parts is concerned.

[@D.Sowers]

There's not chocolate in the center🤣😂

[@ZERO_42069]

But MuH 25 CeNt TrIgGeR JoB

[@DesignDaddy]

Excellent!

[@fatboyEDC]

Agreed. I did a trigger job on an AR, polished it to much and made the trigger unsafe. Basically turned it into a binary trigger and threw it out, replaced it with an alg milspec trigger and love it. That was early in my gun life, learned since then and just train and upgrade later, like you've said countless times James.

[@herfmonny]

Damm now I want chocolate ar 15

[@rossauce12]

Why do you look so familiar.. did you by chance teach a martial arts class at akron University? Or something else. I know i know you lol

[@px4sd477]

He was actually fired by Dremel 18 years ago and hasn’t gotten over it.

[@cheeng1]

The best way to get a trigger job is to fire or dry-fire it 3000-5000 times.

[@Saanonymous80]

What about polishing the feed ramp?

[@px4sd477]

Polish the ammo. Leave a little compound on the bullet when you are finished. This will in turn smooth out your feed ramp where needed.

[@stereothrilla8374]

I call this a PEBIS Error! (Problem Exists Behind Iron Sights). Stop polishing your trigger and start polishing your skills. Don’t be the PEBIS folks! You’re welcome to use that one James.😂😂😂

[@M81_WOODLAND]

OK Fudd. 👎

[@glockdude5472]

As if you can’t do both. lol

[@montroelectric9840]

Love your science Where 2 metal pieces that are polished have the same friction as 2 pieces that are not. Your great 👍

[@blueheeler2608]

👍👍

[@krazyjojo1]

There are no accidental discharges.

[@cwsmith17]

Why would anybody give this a thumbs down?!

[@budstermcgreen6360]

It's the people with a Dremel tool in their hand polishing a trigger or something internally on a gun! ✌️

[@px4sd477]

Because my stocks in Dremel are plummeting. I bought them 2 years ago when they cam out with the battery operated Dremel thinking it would be all the rage. Then low and behold Jeagar posted this.

[@MrVinnyboombottz]

Any mods made to an EDC can work against you legally, should you be involved in a shooting. Practice to proficiency with your factory stock gun. Prosecutors can twist facts against you no matter how clean the situation.

[@KBMC4]

Here is a clue. Prosecutors can and will twist facts against you.

[@darrellwilliams6462]

It does not matter what mods you make to your firearm if it is used legally to defend your life. It’s a myth that needs to go away. It will in the end perform the same function. It’s like the myth of shooting to wound or any other lame excuse that pops up on social media. It’s a dynamic, high stress situation that encompasses a firearm in the action of stopping a deadly threat.

[@blacblac2294]

i polished my trigger once a day...twice if im feeling frisky