Why CCR Disappeared After Only 3 Years

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Styrofoam Bonfire

Styrofoam Bonfire

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@williamdrijver4141
@williamdrijver4141 Жыл бұрын
In January of 2023 it was reported that John Fogerty finally owns the global publishing rights to all CCR songs. Thanks to a deal he made with Concord records. It took forever, but such good news that all tracks now belong to the brilliant man who wrote them!
@MomMom4Cubs
@MomMom4Cubs Жыл бұрын
My Daddy would've been glad to see John get his rights back. The indignation he expressed about this is part of what led me to study Radio/Television Broadcasting, culminating in me becoming the youngest in my family to earn a college degree (17).
@docw6055
@docw6055 Жыл бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉
@davydoodles1438
@davydoodles1438 Жыл бұрын
At 10:27, the graphic says, "...for all intensive purposes." The phrase is, "for all intents and purposes." Gotta proofread.
@peaceondeath2319
@peaceondeath2319 Жыл бұрын
​@@davydoodles1438I said intensive purposes until I it was pointed out on the king of queens I happened to have on one day bout 10 years ago. 😅
@jonifana4612
@jonifana4612 Жыл бұрын
That's no big deal it's a very common mistake that many people make and believe me I was an English major! 😂😂😅
@rickmorrow993
@rickmorrow993 Жыл бұрын
"First see a lawyer. Then see another lawyer to watch the other lawyer. Then see another lawyer to watch out over the other two. Then don;t sign anything until your mother sees it." Great advice for any aspiring businessman/musician. If you have ever had to go through litigation, you cannot see John Fogerty as anything but a hero. He's an inspiration to me.
@smileyousonofa1
@smileyousonofa1 2 жыл бұрын
I got to see John in concert last year, and compared to all the footage over the years, I’ve never seen him happier than when he’s on stage with his very talented kids. Although his life was filled with betrayal and hard times, you can take solace in knowing that he’s reached a place of peace and can finally share that with his kids and the world.
@jeanieruter7416
@jeanieruter7416 Жыл бұрын
What about his three older kids? What do they do for a living? He has two older sons and a daughter.
@mrgcav
@mrgcav Жыл бұрын
I agree, I saw him at Summerfest, 2022, Milwaukee, Wis, It was a great show. I wish he would write some net material.
@jeanieruter7416
@jeanieruter7416 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they feel bad that he never mentions them to the world. It seems like they don't matter.
@brioche496
@brioche496 Жыл бұрын
@@jeanieruter7416 what the fuck are you on about?
@dawoool
@dawoool Жыл бұрын
@@jeanieruter7416 Perhaps they do something unrelated to music.
@yinoveryang4246
@yinoveryang4246 Жыл бұрын
This video is a great telling of this story. The editing in particular is really excellent, it holds you attention and has no "filler" and doesn't patronize your audience . Well done
@SilentKnight43
@SilentKnight43 Жыл бұрын
As a former self-employed photographer and graphic artist who spent several years being badly ripped off by middlemen in the industry - I really identified with John's experience.
@brainysmurf74
@brainysmurf74 Жыл бұрын
@sirvilhelmofyonderland
@sirvilhelmofyonderland Жыл бұрын
I’m a former graphic designer, 20 years., I got out of graphics in 2010. I never realized how bad it twisted me until I quit. Now I drive a truck. I hope you found peace.
@DavidKing-jx3sg
@DavidKing-jx3sg 2 жыл бұрын
5 gold records in 17 months. What incredible talent. They were the American beatles
@charlesharper2357
@charlesharper2357 2 жыл бұрын
They WERE NOT the American Beatles...not one of the other guys were great musicians or writers.
@roberthill799
@roberthill799 2 жыл бұрын
Writers? No, not at all. But they played their instruments better than the Beatles did.
@charlesharper2357
@charlesharper2357 2 жыл бұрын
@@roberthill799 Horseshit. They were competent, but not great. Name one of them who was in demand from other bands or as session musicians.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 Жыл бұрын
John was the American Beatles.
@sleepshouter5017
@sleepshouter5017 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think there was an American Beatles. Lynyrd Skynyrd maybe? Honesty I find it hard to differentiate British classic rock from American classic rock considering how the more popular British classic rock bands’ singers sang with American accents for the most part anyways. Really doesn’t matter where you’re from. Good music is good music, nationality has nothing to do with anything.
@blayneaugust
@blayneaugust 2 жыл бұрын
My two older brothers bequeathed their CCR lps to me when they left for Vietnam- priceless gifts that helped shape who I am as a man and music lover. To this day, I hold them and Mr. Fogerty in high esteem. Thank you Ron, Dan, and Tom!
@dawoool
@dawoool Жыл бұрын
Did they make it back?
@blayneaugust
@blayneaugust Жыл бұрын
@@dawoool they did, thank you for asking. Ron still works as an auto mechanic, but we lost Dan about a month ago due to a stroke
@dawoool
@dawoool Жыл бұрын
@@blayneaugust Any PTSD?
@blayneaugust
@blayneaugust Жыл бұрын
@@dawoool without a doubt
@dawoool
@dawoool Жыл бұрын
@@blayneaugust I try not to judge anybody whose path I have not walked. I have never been in battle, so when veterans of that horror do things I do not understand, I consider what they've been through, even though I have not experienced it. I know very well it would have changed me, and not for the better. I have also never experienced wealth and fame in my 20s, so I can't judge the seemingly bizziare behavior of many people who did achieve that. I have imagined it and, knowing myself a little better by now, I think I would have been a good candidate for the 27 club.
@SuperStrik9
@SuperStrik9 2 жыл бұрын
CCR, The Doors, Cream, Jimi Hendrix... It's incredible how much great material/songs some of the bands back in the 60s came up with in such a short period of time. The Beatles from 1963-1970. Look at all of the great music they put out over a 6 year period basically. It's extremely impressive. When it comes to bands staying together for a long time, the key is everyone knowing their role. It's like a team.
@merlin5420
@merlin5420 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how many crooked and greedy managers there were at the same time as well
@philgiglio7922
@philgiglio7922 2 жыл бұрын
Look how long the Stones have been playing together
@JohnSmith-rk6jy
@JohnSmith-rk6jy 2 жыл бұрын
Those four mentioned are my big 4 of 65 - 70.
@CFITOMAHAWK
@CFITOMAHAWK Жыл бұрын
@@philgiglio7922 But the Stones singer was never pushed aside by the others. CCR Stu and Tom F tried to sing and made the worst record of them all. Arseholes they were.
@6699230
@6699230 Жыл бұрын
@@philgiglio7922 The Stones were ripped off by Alan Klein (ABKO) as well.
@martharunstheworld
@martharunstheworld Жыл бұрын
Very sad story due to the greed of one horrible individual. Thanks for telling the story well in this video!
@EastPeakSlim
@EastPeakSlim 2 жыл бұрын
John Fogerty was and is Creedence Clearwater Revival. His songwriting made them great. Stu, Tom and Doug were a critical part of the mix, but their level of talent NEVER came up to John's. They killed the goose that laid the golden egg.
@tomakafrankconlon3207
@tomakafrankconlon3207 2 жыл бұрын
Or in the real world, he thought he was better than everyone else.
@tonym994
@tonym994 2 жыл бұрын
I think the other 3 got tired of being working musicians. because that's all they were. after the break-up, they probably weren't putting much food on the table. but they worked for John as much as they worked for Saul. John, let's face it, tho he was screwed overall (they all were), he at least could live on royalties. the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle .we're not seeing the middle here, I don't think. I can't tell you how much I admire this R&R giant Irish American. I badly want to read his book now. I may come back and have a different view of the CCR story. it apparently tells all about how he taught the other 3 how to play. that would mean they owe him everything. and as far as a re-union, after 1990, they no longer would have a hell of a rhythm guitarist, anyway. I saw them as a trio before I understood jack about music, I just knew Tom had left the band. then, after seeing a local cover band (they did some Creedence songs) and I saw and heard what Tom contributed to the band, when this kid on rhythm guitar was playing good, interesting chords that I thought John was playing (again, I didn't know shit then, as far as lead vs. rhythm, but was starting to understand) ,I realized how important he was to the band. the other 3 took that 30 grand probably so they could eat. again, the middle is missing for we, the fans. like what did they make despite the raw deal from Saul and Fantasy? we're getting John's side. but Tom, in the interview, gave John his due as the legend he really is. that was fitting. but isn't it clear that Saul was nobody's "best friend"?
@jamesbradshaw3389
@jamesbradshaw3389 2 жыл бұрын
You have got that right, I could not express this better
@ozzykillbill9680
@ozzykillbill9680 2 жыл бұрын
Hey the man is rich and will always be famous. He done good for him self wouldn't you say. 👈. 👀
@maxalberts2003
@maxalberts2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomakafrankconlon3207 He was and is.
@TheMuudcat
@TheMuudcat 2 жыл бұрын
John was and is one of the greats of contemporary song writing and production. An icon to me
@6699230
@6699230 Жыл бұрын
What do you expect from a guy who knew who Stephen Foster was since he was 4 yrs old LOL?🙃
@coreyham3753
@coreyham3753 Жыл бұрын
Many sad and tragic events in his life.
@nintony2994
@nintony2994 Жыл бұрын
as a Guitarist hes a BIG inspiration to me :)
@donjohn2695
@donjohn2695 Жыл бұрын
And a fantastic guitarist
@DENVEROUTDOORMAN
@DENVEROUTDOORMAN Жыл бұрын
Never
@DesertRockfall
@DesertRockfall 2 жыл бұрын
Nice presentation. I remember when John was being sued for plagiarizing himself, and how incredibly insane it was. Imagine being on that jury? John boycotted his CCR songs for years, and I heard that Bob Dylan told John that if he kept refusing to play his old songs, people were going to start thinking of "Proud Mary" as an Ike and Tina Turner song.
@TPOrchestra
@TPOrchestra Жыл бұрын
After being sued himself, I thought Fogerty had a hell of a lot of nerve suing the Hollies for plagiarism for "Long Cool Woman." His "Old Man Down the Road" sounds a lot more like "Run Through the Jungle" than their song did to any of his stuff, yet he won his case. Unfortunately they caved.
@paulgentile1024
@paulgentile1024 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was because that was the version I dig
@DesertRockfall
@DesertRockfall Жыл бұрын
@@paulgentile1024 "We like to do things Rough!"
@tomstulc9143
@tomstulc9143 Жыл бұрын
​@@darkwitness2718 ahhhh!
@MumrikDK
@MumrikDK Жыл бұрын
People do just that.
@coyotemojo
@coyotemojo Жыл бұрын
I was born in 70 and had no idea they were such a flash in the pan. They have always seemed like eternal legends to me. In the same basket as the Stones and Animals.
@sunshinehoward9649
@sunshinehoward9649 Жыл бұрын
i feel embarrassed that i thought they were around for longer. i put the Eagles in with the legends too.
@MrRonk55
@MrRonk55 Жыл бұрын
You're surprised? I never realized they were around that short a time, and I was there. I was in junior high when I first heard them and a Junior in high school when I saw them, which I guess was 1972. Think Tom Fogarty was gone by then, and John was finishing out touring obligations, and I'm not sure how many original members were left. They came on,played, and left without any encore, which I thought was strange. I had no idea of all the turmoil going on until much later.
@donniemoder1466
@donniemoder1466 Жыл бұрын
The resurgence of Fogerty in the 90s was incredible. His voice, his guitar, his writing could not be denied forever. He was screwed over by the system. Unfortunately his band mates could not realize they should ride the John Fogerty train.
@Cincinnatus1869
@Cincinnatus1869 2 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say that if I was in a band with a writer like John I would just thank God and hope I didn't mess up enough to get booted. I'd be happy to help in any way I could and happy to shut up and play also. I get that it's a sibling rivalry thing but I like to think I could get past it and recognize that John is a composer arranger of rare talent
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 Жыл бұрын
Right?!
@jimbeam-ru1my
@jimbeam-ru1my Жыл бұрын
yeah but we haven't heard the side of the other guys. it sounds crazy the way they behaved but there had to be something john was doing that got under everybody's skin. Was he demeaning and belittling everyone? when you behave bad enough you can drive people to just want revenge against you. is that what happened to this band?
@kerpin09
@kerpin09 Жыл бұрын
@@jimbeam-ru1my The others have given their versions of the story many times.
@Blackadder75
@Blackadder75 Жыл бұрын
@@kerpin09 but not to us, the viewers of this youtube piece that focuses on John.
@kerpin09
@kerpin09 Жыл бұрын
@@Blackadder75 and you could say the same about pieces that focuses on the others' version of events - ie that John's viewpoint wasn't presented. One needs to employ some medial literacy and come to their own conclusions
@justinvesty
@justinvesty 2 жыл бұрын
I knew none of this. Listened to CCR a lot in high school and college. Great video, keep up the great work. You deserve many more subscribers, I have no doubt this channel will grow
@aniketsakpal
@aniketsakpal Жыл бұрын
You are a great filmmaker. A producer and director. A great editor too. I know very few CCR songs. I didn't know about the story. I watched the whole video and searched for more songs. That Norm documentary has given me a great channel. Subscribed.
@StyrofoamBonfire
@StyrofoamBonfire Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@AndrewFullerton
@AndrewFullerton Жыл бұрын
​@Gordon Non-optimal sound balancing doesn't negate the rest of the edit. This is still really tightly made
@mikelevitt7365
@mikelevitt7365 Жыл бұрын
The pinhead has opined today!
@matternot666
@matternot666 Жыл бұрын
The part about the brothers never repairing their relationship made me legit cry
@hawnyfox3411
@hawnyfox3411 Жыл бұрын
Most excellent documentary & breakdown of CCR that I've ever seen & am glad you're uploaded it As a lad from London the Louisiana type 'swamp rock' (as the critics derided it), was just a million miles from the other groups I grew up with (Beatles, Led Zeppelin, etc) - I never really fathomed as to "how" I came to love John Fogarty & CCR But I did right from the opening riff of "Up Around The Bend" I was hooked - My first guitar riffs were emulating John Fogerty & George Harrison & rather surprisingly Steve Hackett - Became a lifelong CCR & John Fogerty fan as a result
@ronniebrown2517
@ronniebrown2517 2 жыл бұрын
i was in the army from 68 to 71...ccr was my background music to my life and the kaliedescopic world swirling around me.... i have known about all this for a while....i remember the joy of living on the san marcos river in texas the summer of 84 when i first heard centerfield....re charged my batteries to say the least....last year 2021 my brother died....we had the same situation as john and tom.....never REALLY cleared up the weirdness between us.....when things get that personal it is very intense...
@philgiglio7922
@philgiglio7922 2 жыл бұрын
Hear what you're saying, my brother and I...42 years now
@trinity0844
@trinity0844 Жыл бұрын
USMC (68-73) here; me and my fireteam fought a war to CCR, greatest music on planet earth!
@ronniebrown2517
@ronniebrown2517 Жыл бұрын
@@trinity0844 i have four ccr albums on cd plus greatest hits....for a long time i could not listen to them because of all discussed here but after hearing john's side here....i am going to start my day with greatest now....such a sad story....when i think of john and tom i think of my brother and me.....life is way too short to hold grudges...
@alankillian4962
@alankillian4962 Жыл бұрын
It also breaks my heart hearing John speak of the emotional loss of his brother Tom. John clearly wears the loss on his sleeves for all to see. Remarkable is the love of a man for his brother.
@NornIrishAJ
@NornIrishAJ 2 жыл бұрын
You had me hooked with the norm video, and now you’ve knocked it out of the park a second time with this slick, informative, emotive doc about a band I didn’t know much about going in. This stuff is genuinely brilliant, can’t remember the last time I felt so glad to be a subscriber. Keep it up!
@StyrofoamBonfire
@StyrofoamBonfire 2 жыл бұрын
Wow-appreciate it! Glad you're here
@davidanchovies3340
@davidanchovies3340 2 жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@Alex-js5lg
@Alex-js5lg 2 жыл бұрын
@@StyrofoamBonfire I didn't realize that you're the one behind the Norm video too. Keep it up. This long form informational video format is exploding on KZbin, and you've got a knack for it.
@qqw743
@qqw743 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus! What an incredibly well-made and witty video. I wish I were this clever. The map, the green line merging into his mouth, the timing on quotes. Really well done. Makes me think someone should do a Creedence biopic. Makes me think YOU should.
@newwavepop
@newwavepop 2 жыл бұрын
i knew the basics of the long legal battles between John ad the rest of the band, but i did not know all these details about Saul or how bad the relationship was between John and Tom. this made me literally tear up at the end, John has written such amazing songs that have given so many of us happiness and he didnt even get to be there with his brother in his final days. as a failed ungifted musician myself i have never been able to grasp people that end up in a band with a genuinely talented songwriter and cannot just be happy to go along for the ride and be supportive. "Fortunate Son" may be the greatest Rock N Roll song of all time, and "Have You Ever Seen The Rain" is one of the most beautiful songs i have ever heard, then you have the scores of other great songs he has written. it is a shame that story doesnt have a happier ending. love you John.
@60secondpages
@60secondpages 2 жыл бұрын
Keep writing, keep playing, you don't fail until you quit :). Musical gifts are developed through practise and part chance.
@stevecarter8810
@stevecarter8810 Жыл бұрын
It's because everybody in the band works their asses off, but only the writer really gets paid on the back end. Do you end up with one or two guys making a retirement income while the rest have menial labor helping them do it and nothing to show in between sessions.
@booognish
@booognish Жыл бұрын
@@stevecarter8810yeah but their work wouldn’t be worth a damn without the creative work of the writer. There’s a million great musicians out there, but truly great songwriters are far less common, and should be duly compensated for their worth. Whatever exact arrangement that requires depends on the specifics, but you cannot expect essentially a backing musician to make as much as the guy writing AND playing the music..
@stevecarter8810
@stevecarter8810 Жыл бұрын
@@booognish while I broadly agree, different bands, different dynamics. What would Toto's Roseanna be without porcaro's choices on drums? Van halen's jump without the synth intro? 10cc's I'm not in love without the crazy production choices? Prince reportedly cherry picked elements from extended jam sessions to make his signature sound, but took the credit and the royalties. Touring takes its toll on every band member. What started out as a bunch of guys taking on the world slowly gets divided by wealth distribution and total exhaustion.
@mbh9566
@mbh9566 Жыл бұрын
For the record, the only two hit songs off of CCR’s last album, Mardi Gras, were both written and sung by John Fogerty. Sweet Hitch-Hiker reached #6 and Someday Never Comes reached #25. Never underestimate the power of human ego’s and greed to destroy something great. CCR could have been recognized up there with the greatest rock bands of all time, they were that great.
@bbb8997
@bbb8997 Жыл бұрын
fogerty music after CCR is mostly crap.just a bunch of hired hands backing him up, no chemistry at all. no drummer can duplicate Cosmo's sound & feel.along with Levon Helm, one of the most identifiable drumming sounds ever. fogarty didn't teach Cosmo to play the drums. the CCR (revisited) lineup with Eliot Easton smokes any live shows fogarty ever played with CCR, or solo. Tom Fogarty started the band & never gets his due or respect. give john a big beach towel to cry on.🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
@lightdot459
@lightdot459 Жыл бұрын
What's crazy is that it isn't "could have been recognized" but that they ARE recognized. Fogerty was just that good, that even with all of that he managed to propel his band to those heights in two years
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum Жыл бұрын
@@lightdot459 I still have his solo career CD's and he's every bit as punchy as back then. Rock on Mr Fogarty!!!!!
@lightdot459
@lightdot459 Жыл бұрын
@@theaustralianconundrum yeah one of my favorites from his is his Blue Moon Swamp album
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL
@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL Жыл бұрын
He must have lacked the confidence to use session musicians for his entire career. He could have avoided all of the legal, professional, and emotional stress.
@williamkoppos7039
@williamkoppos7039 Жыл бұрын
I grew up with those boys. Will never forget the first time I heard "Bad Moon Rising". THEY were, and always will be, my favorite band.
@joshgoldstein3991
@joshgoldstein3991 2 жыл бұрын
Great rock band. Amazing that he feared being a one hit wonder, and despite the band being around for only four years they really did manage to reach classic rock status. Really enjoyed the video.
@bobtaylor170
@bobtaylor170 2 жыл бұрын
John Fogerty is like the Ralph Kiner of 60s rock. Ralph Kiner hit only 400 home runs, but he's in the Hall of Fame because his career was only ten years long.
@benjack8477
@benjack8477 2 жыл бұрын
I agree nobody sounded like CCR back in the 60's and still no band has to this day they had a unique organic sound and John had one of the greatest voices
@photog1529
@photog1529 2 жыл бұрын
Been a fan of John and CCR since the beginning. The amount of timeless music CCR put out in such a short time was just phenomenal. I've seen John and his band several times now, but I sure do miss the 'Creedence sound'...CCR was tight and everything just clicked. Just a shame the good times couldn't have lasted a little longer.
@guadalupecavazos4309
@guadalupecavazos4309 Жыл бұрын
100 years in the future. Ccr's music will be as much loved as it is today.
@reeee-turn
@reeee-turn 2 жыл бұрын
Norm Macdonald's Bob Uecker story has John Fogerty in it. Nice use of a thematic bridge in your content!
@EllisD17
@EllisD17 2 жыл бұрын
NORM!!!!!
@chelton87
@chelton87 Жыл бұрын
Incedible how much amazing music was made in such a short time
@dimensionalencounter3689
@dimensionalencounter3689 Жыл бұрын
Never had a clue they had only lasted a few years, I was born in the 1980s, local radio played ccr all the time. My dad had cassettes of CCR, when I was a kid first learning guitar that’s all I wanted to play so it’s awesome to see the full story of the band. Still listen to CCR to this day and it stays in my iTunes list
@toddcastle3926
@toddcastle3926 2 жыл бұрын
Born in 1967 and raised on CCR, they are and he is the reason I love music and he play guitar. The first two songs I learned…. Bad Moon Rising and Proud Mary! Long live John Foggerty and CCR!
@machoninny2960
@machoninny2960 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly one of the greatest Rock Singers in History. Never mind top shelf songwriting and guitar playing.
@cloudbloom
@cloudbloom 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work on this, looking forward to more videos from you. CCR was a big part of my childhood, not much into them now that I'm older (probably just burned out on em) but they were huge at their peak and it was well deserved
@StyrofoamBonfire
@StyrofoamBonfire 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I’m a very surface level fan so it was shocking uncovering what happened to them/John
@mchristr
@mchristr Жыл бұрын
I grew up in CCR's heyday and they just kept putting out great songs. They were always on the radio and the charts. I thought they'd last forever.
@evelyngill5134
@evelyngill5134 Жыл бұрын
This was a great documentary of John Fogerty and CCR. I enjoyed it immensely. Johns voice and his delivery can’t be taught it’s a god given talent. His song writing is something to be experienced and I would say to every new artist investigate this man of many talents and cover your ass when it comes to family, so called managers and well meaning friends. Money changes everything!!❤😊
@dessertstorm7476
@dessertstorm7476 2 жыл бұрын
What happens when you don't realise you are just a drummer or just a bass player, and that's fine, it should be enough. Sometimes you're lucky to be in the presence of genius, just enjoy it and don't be consumed by jealousy
@BomChickyBowWow
@BomChickyBowWow 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of work you put into your videos really shows. The editing, the pacing, the footage you use, the casual narration style (I’m a big fan of you not trying to sound like what you think a narrator sounds like), the soundtrack, etc. It’s all very good. I love your videos. I look forward to following the channel for years.
@StyrofoamBonfire
@StyrofoamBonfire 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it!👍👍
@sameboat9162
@sameboat9162 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done, once again. I was just re-watching your Norm video yesterday, which is my favourite. Nice to see Norm make an appearance in this one too. Thank you for all your hard work. Excited to see what you do next.
@danieljohnson5726
@danieljohnson5726 Жыл бұрын
CCR, what a band. Their music will never fade away.
@ricardosuarez2707
@ricardosuarez2707 Жыл бұрын
😢 that last song had me in tears , brilliant man . Thank you for this documentary it was amazing . Really enjoyed it , subscribed
@zerabp1130
@zerabp1130 2 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest bands ever. I had always heard that it was John's ego that was the issue glad to finally hear his side of it. During his Fortunate Son tour a bit back, my wife and I got to see him live, still to this day one of the best performers hands down.
@joycebrackbill3577
@joycebrackbill3577 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I always heard the same. That he had a huge ego and didn't treat his band members right. This video made me see it differently.
@cynthiaennis3107
@cynthiaennis3107 2 жыл бұрын
Great you got to see him in concert!
@jonifana4612
@jonifana4612 Жыл бұрын
​@@joycebrackbill3577that's what I heard but that was all just jealousy and sour grapes talking
@typetecomedy
@typetecomedy 2 жыл бұрын
As a video guy, this is incredibly well made. Simply perfection you could even say.
@StyrofoamBonfire
@StyrofoamBonfire 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!👍
@oldtimer7635
@oldtimer7635 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing fact is that CCR never scored a number 1 single on the Billboard Hot 100! Instead they had 5 singles that reached number 2 (still a record I believe).
@___---__
@___---__ Жыл бұрын
Beatles?
@oldtimer7635
@oldtimer7635 Жыл бұрын
@@___---__ Beatles?! Read the book (Fortunate son) and learn!
@___---__
@___---__ Жыл бұрын
I believe the Beatles had at least 5 songs at #2. Probably more. I could be wrong.
@oldtimer7635
@oldtimer7635 Жыл бұрын
@@___---__ Read the book!
@johnnymac6242
@johnnymac6242 Жыл бұрын
CCR is one of those bands where you can just throw on a whole album and never have an urge to skip a song
@joriver5739
@joriver5739 Жыл бұрын
Peace John and Tom...you brought joy, love and tears to my eyes as a 17 yr boy in Montana along with my friends..."Money doesn't change you, it unmasks you...no shit Saul"...words straight from the horses mouth.
@sleepshouter5017
@sleepshouter5017 Жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to be how so many cookie-cutter content creators with no soul or talent have millions of subs while this guy who clearly puts his heart and mind into his work delivering such amazing works of art in the form of history lessons only has 18k? Wtf KZbin, recommend this channel to more people ffs!
@Blackadder75
@Blackadder75 Жыл бұрын
most people are stupid and watch stupid mindless content. it's not a very uplifting conclusion, but in my opinion it's sad but true
@markfrost2707
@markfrost2707 Жыл бұрын
I know! This is well produced. I looked up expecting to see millions of subs it's THAT professionally done
@JoeKyser
@JoeKyser Жыл бұрын
The age of the channel. When you wrote this, they were not even a year old. It's that simple. I'd you are.not a KZbin yet and jump in and put out the best content you can, expect less than 3 millions views a year without paying for advertising. You do know that the channels that hit so fast pay for it right? Anyone can pay to have any video recommended. Organically though, this is it. You have to put time in. They are doing just fine. Their numbers are impressive.
@jonhelmer8591
@jonhelmer8591 Жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@dennisriblett4622
@dennisriblett4622 Жыл бұрын
Maybe because He thought CCR was only around for 2 years ....
@Elhastezy888
@Elhastezy888 2 жыл бұрын
This is phenomenal. Been a fan since birth (possibly in the womb) My favorite part of The Big Lebowski was him playing CCR Thank you so much for creating this & sharing it. Very appreciated 🎁 Many many blessings 💓
@gottes1stsenpai30
@gottes1stsenpai30 2 жыл бұрын
That book of his must be adventurous! Great vid btw, amazed by your ability to construct and tell a story with and without many clips or your own storytelling.
@pjreynoldsa1
@pjreynoldsa1 Жыл бұрын
I moved to the Philippines 7 years ago from South Florida. My Filipina wife heard CCR's greatest hits one day and now plays it on youtube every day. Same for Grand Funk Railroad........ 2 most frequently played artists at our house in manila.
@kjetin99
@kjetin99 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video!!! I loved when ”Green River” came out and played Creedence so much back then and then they just disappeared for me and back then I didnt have time to investigate the story,and I been wondering so many years what happened. Thanks for this great video! It took me 40 years before I focusen a bit on CCR! John is a fabulous musician!
@damotheman4196
@damotheman4196 2 жыл бұрын
"the most interesting thing is that these events happened at all" - - That's quite a line my man, 2nd vid of yours I watched today.. Absolutely brilliant. I never knew this much into the story and strangely enough the articles I'd read had kind of painted John in a bad light.. At least it seemed that way. The way it's explained here.. I completely get what John was doing..
@TheLucasthatyouknow
@TheLucasthatyouknow 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays music badly I can still say this is a great story that needs to be told for the history of rock music.
@TheVatonaught
@TheVatonaught 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, after 50 years of playing badly I have lots of admiration for the truly talented.
@BrianWilliams-ii9vi
@BrianWilliams-ii9vi Жыл бұрын
What multiple gold records apparently doesn't matter how they play,
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just old enough to remember when Creedence Clearwater Revival was the biggest act in all of pop music. They OWNED the charts, the airwaves, and for a while, The Beatles. Their music stands proud today.
@UlyKansas
@UlyKansas Жыл бұрын
This was the best CCR video essay I’ve seen on this site.
@juniatamc
@juniatamc Жыл бұрын
Saw him live a few years ago. He still rocks as an old man after all this time and frustration.
@franorichardson
@franorichardson 2 жыл бұрын
I remember growing open Dublin serving my apprenticeship at 16 and listening to CCR on the radio. Up Around The bend, Traveling band, Have You Ever Seen the Rain and Bad Moon Rising were the songs we would carry in our heads between trains and buses when possible as we walked everywhere. Going to Bolton Street and looking in the record shop window and always front and center was Cosmos Factory. We had little spendable currency but we had the real gold. Thank you John and thank you CCR.
@emospiderbutton
@emospiderbutton 2 жыл бұрын
Damn this was a well made video in every aspect. Please make more! Excellent content, editing and information. Love it!
@anshumankathait2107
@anshumankathait2107 2 жыл бұрын
It is really very very nice to see people coming together and creating GOOD content on whatever interests them, what stories have we heard because of it. This was a great video, and I am sure there will be more. We are mere people who are just a form of energy- when we die the energy doesn't, so we just decay. What gets lost is the many stories, memories and incidents that moved us through our lifetimes, kept us going for more, and fascinated us through its course. I hope one day I tell stories like this too, it was a pleasure to watch this. Thank You
@Brandi6666
@Brandi6666 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding interview and video. Thank you 🤘❤️🇺🇸
@rivereuphrates8103
@rivereuphrates8103 Жыл бұрын
This is the best, and most comprehensive, video on the CCR-Fantasy situation on KZbin.
@babylemonade2868
@babylemonade2868 2 жыл бұрын
You could see the pain in Tom’s at the end there and John still sounds great. Centerfield is one of my favourite albums
@Samuel....
@Samuel.... 2 жыл бұрын
Another incredible video I've always loved when their music comes on the radio never knew the story though 😢. Keep it up, Happy 4th of July!
@StyrofoamBonfire
@StyrofoamBonfire 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! 🎆 Yeah casual fan too and just heard this story last month
@snakebait5118
@snakebait5118 2 жыл бұрын
WOW! I was a Creedence fan since 1969 when I went into the Marines. Green River was my favorite because it was popular before I left for Boot Camp at Parris Island. My girlfriend and I was wading through a stream and we sat on some rocks, dangling our feet in a pool and the song was rolling through my mind. When I left Camp LeJeune after Infantry Training Regiment, I had to change buses at Breezewood, Pa. and a Creedence song was playing in the Restaurant where I had lunch. Up until now, I never knew there was so much turbulence in that group! SAD! Thanks for the OUTSTANDING video on the group!
@jakeroberts7435
@jakeroberts7435 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's cool, l lived by a marine base in '69, Koneohe, now l live by the Green River in Kentucky. I've always been a fan of CCR
@kennyhuskisson2684
@kennyhuskisson2684 Жыл бұрын
​@@jakeroberts7435 Hi neighbor, Owensboro native here!👍✌️
@jakeroberts7435
@jakeroberts7435 Жыл бұрын
@@kennyhuskisson2684 Hey, I'm a transplant, only been here a couple years, looks like its going to be my Alamo. I'm in Bacon Creek, they changed the name to Bonnieville for some damn reason. Bacon Creek, a town named that is pretty high up in the cool factor, my opinion.
@johndenugent4185
@johndenugent4185 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your service, from another fmr Marine
@snakebait5118
@snakebait5118 Жыл бұрын
@@johndenugent4185 Thank you for your service brother! Semper Fi!
@leonceboudreauxwolf
@leonceboudreauxwolf Жыл бұрын
Yes, John Fogerty was, and is Credence. His voice is unmistakeably unique. I grew up in CCR' songs. I was amazed at his bayou songs, especially them being from the mountains of CA, but almost every time one of their songs came out, in that unmistakeable John Fogerty voice, it usually related to something in my life. Born in the Bayou Country in South Louisiana, half White, half Native, we immigrated to Chicago, IL...the inner city where I was raised by my Mom. Periodically, I'd return to LA for brief stays with kinfolk. "Just Got Home From Illinois..." Wow! That smacked me one, I had just got "home" from Illinois not even a week when I heard that song ! "People on the bayou are happy to give..." Another one. They just kept coming and I thought "These boys HAVE to be from Louisiana, or at least , a nearby State. " How did Mr. Fogerty capture our experiences on the Bayou ? He/they HAD to be from those areas to capture in song what it was like but then, they really weren't, which made their songs even more amazing. Then Arlo Guthrie came out with "Riding On The Train They call the City of New Orleans, Pulling Out of Kankakee (IL)." I rode that same train from Kankakee to New 'Awlins a number of times. All of these songs were weird because they hit me where I was at. Thanks for all the great music. Good times
@luisav.411
@luisav.411 Жыл бұрын
WOW WOW WOW ! what an AMAZING atory but really what an AMAZING video, so catching and well edited!!!
@Goomer
@Goomer 2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to CCR at The Boston Garden in 1970, my first Concert. Richie Havens and Booker T and the MG's were the openers.
@carlomiller1984
@carlomiller1984 2 жыл бұрын
I had heard about this legal battle going on for years. I was 14 in 1968, and was a CCR fan from their beginning. I had no idea that the legal fight was so bad. It's happened to many R&R bands through out the history of R&R, because most of the very young musicians in bands are so unsophisticated about the law and "sharks" like this Saul asshole thief, and they're easily taken advantage of by these greedy unscrupulous sharks.
@cynthiaennis3107
@cynthiaennis3107 2 жыл бұрын
I found out by accident, this past week, how greedy these bastards can be! Sadly...one manager, supposedly, took out a life insurance policy on his band & didn’t fix their plane! They all died in it! The attorney & author of a book about this died at 63...after he lost his son & his wife & no real obituary. Can’t get a copy of his book either! He has no bio! It’s all shady as Hell!
@allymayful
@allymayful 2 жыл бұрын
There have been heaps of evil parasites in the music industry since the 60s. Not only did they rob them - they also over worked them which l now realise caused most of the alcohol and drug problems. Absolutely sickening that our societies have allowed this sort of exploitation of our creative citizens carry on for ever. They should have legal protection that sends such barststds to prison.
@TheVatonaught
@TheVatonaught 2 жыл бұрын
the laws were written by sharks and enforced by courts that lived in the shark tank.
@Matt-bs9ym
@Matt-bs9ym Жыл бұрын
Yeah you would never expect a guy like him to screw someone over financially. Really blindsided by this
@paulgentile1024
@paulgentile1024 Жыл бұрын
​@@cynthiaennis3107 why should rock and roll be any different than any other business.. it's all about the money ..💰.. that's why it's called the music BUSINESS... ARTISTS AND CREATIVE PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE RIPPED OFF
@robl7532
@robl7532 2 жыл бұрын
Well well, John getting some respect from your skills. Well done again with your outstanding editing and overall timing skills with these presentations.
@KenTeel
@KenTeel 2 жыл бұрын
I'd call that some well deserved respect. John doesn't have to edit video in a deceptive manner, in order to show himself in a postive light. The facts speak for themselves. He was incredible, with a very simple and effective format. For that he earned the disrespect of his bandmates.
@StephenClarkDobson
@StephenClarkDobson Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the eighties, so CCR was and Is still played on the airwaves. I never knew this is what happened to the band. Very sad.
@frankarouet
@frankarouet Жыл бұрын
How many great tubes we could have had if the band had stayed together! Fogerty is a genius. You can only dream.
@sarahgarner5425
@sarahgarner5425 2 жыл бұрын
I went back and listened to all the ccr songs I could find. They were all great ! John your lack of ego back in the day may have prevented you from seeing the truth for a long time. My respect for you and your talent is immense. Thanks for all the great sounds!
@davidkirkham6497
@davidkirkham6497 Жыл бұрын
@@dukeford8893 Why?
@lordofthemound3890
@lordofthemound3890 2 жыл бұрын
One correction: John Fogerty played CCR songs live for the first time in 15 years in 1987 (not 1997 as indicated). It was for an audience of Vietnam War vets, during a benefit concert broadcast on HBO as “Welcome Home Vietnam.”
@roberthill799
@roberthill799 2 жыл бұрын
That is true though the tour that began in 97 or 8 was the first time he extensively integrated a large number of CCR songs into his concerts.
@philgiglio7922
@philgiglio7922 2 жыл бұрын
Vets probably would have been piffed, that was the soundtrack of their war
@gregoryhenderson2640
@gregoryhenderson2640 Жыл бұрын
Correct!!! And it was awesome.
@frogger1952
@frogger1952 Жыл бұрын
@@roberthill799 Not stated in the documentary is that Stu and Doug had formed CCRevisited and were playing the songs John had refused to play. So to undermine them, he began playing the CCR songs again. While John absolutely is the main talent in the group, he's no angel in this mess either.
@ConceptJunkie
@ConceptJunkie Жыл бұрын
I'm just glad John was able to get back to doing what he does best. He's made so much amazing music since the early 70s.
@Threegunmaster
@Threegunmaster Жыл бұрын
I was born in November of 1972 ,grew listening to CCR with my Dad and still to this day I love hearing them.
@douglasbagshaw9121
@douglasbagshaw9121 Жыл бұрын
Great mini doco. So well made. Thank you.
@70sladyalways25
@70sladyalways25 2 жыл бұрын
After reading his book and doing some research on my own, I have a much better understanding of John Fogerty and CCR. I appreciate his talent and passion for music. I love to see him enjoying music with his sons and daughter. He does seem at peace and happy. He’s a proud dad these days and gave us some great songs over the years!
@nosedondeelmarsetermina
@nosedondeelmarsetermina 2 жыл бұрын
Your content is so amazing. As a Norm fan it was so great to see that video and these last to have opened me up to more information that I didnt know about the people previously. Just curious, is it your plan to do monthly videos? Bc I love your content and want as much as possible while also not being creatively restricted to being forced into a time frame.
@StyrofoamBonfire
@StyrofoamBonfire 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Just needed monthly deadlines starting out bc otherwise I'd spend too much time trying to perfect things haha but no solid long term plan on that schedule or even this specific mini-doc structure
@MinimumEffortMedia
@MinimumEffortMedia 2 жыл бұрын
CCR’s music really endured. I’ve never seen the whole story put together like this. Also love all the old Conan Clips.
@outerspacebass
@outerspacebass Жыл бұрын
This was quite enjoyable to watch. Can't wait to see what else you do.
@davidcagle920
@davidcagle920 Жыл бұрын
9:33 only right here but this has been an amazing video. Thanks for taking the time to find all these clips of john , no offense but hearing him talk instead of you is so much better, i do like how you cut in and explain things❤
@drewsibleyloans
@drewsibleyloans 2 жыл бұрын
Tom was my neighbor. His son Jeff and I are the same age and were friends. I never understood what the issue was as to why he quit till now. Nicely done. Thanks for posting
@rolfanderson3925
@rolfanderson3925 Жыл бұрын
What were they like?
@drewsibleyloans
@drewsibleyloans Жыл бұрын
@@rolfanderson3925 I was in High School and Jeff and I with some other friends partied like rock stars. His Dad Tom was very nice and totally engaging. I'd say down to earth
@talister106
@talister106 2 жыл бұрын
His music was and continues to be the soundtrack of my life. Many thanks.
@alcindanetinho9099
@alcindanetinho9099 Жыл бұрын
Idem idem
@PlasticCogLiquid
@PlasticCogLiquid 2 жыл бұрын
I think John's guitar playing gets overlooked a bit too, some of his solo's are pretty crafty
@sheldonbass4238
@sheldonbass4238 Жыл бұрын
If only business could somehow be divorced from music, not only would the right people be properly compensated for their hard work, talent and abilities, but the music itself would maintain its rightful place as the primary focus. John Fogerty is such a profoundly creative force and has accomplished something few songwriters could even imagine pulling off themselves. The story's sad, but it only makes John's true fans love him that much more.
@FineArtsMusic
@FineArtsMusic Жыл бұрын
wow, this video is incredibly well made. Enjoyed every minute!
@ellaestere
@ellaestere 2 жыл бұрын
Amo a Fogerty, toda su música es magia. Su voz especial. Talento para componer
@julesl6910
@julesl6910 Жыл бұрын
Yo Quiero Taco Bell
@ptofview
@ptofview 2 жыл бұрын
Such an unfortunate ending to a great band and relationship between Tom and John. Loss all the way around. But, as fans we had such great times with their music.
@davewagner5408
@davewagner5408 Жыл бұрын
I saw John in concert in 1997 at Hershey Park. He sang all his CCR songs and sounded great. I saw the Stones in Philly two years later,paid twice as much for the tickets,had to drive 3 times further,and John's performance kicked the Stones ass ,hands down. A much greater value😂
@gregvenbrux6177
@gregvenbrux6177 Жыл бұрын
I was at that concert too. That's the only time I've ever seen him. He sounded pretty good.
@makeitthrough_
@makeitthrough_ 6 ай бұрын
I finally found it! This got recommended to me quite a while ago and I really enjoyed it then, and randomly just now I had the urge to watch it again but forgot the title and your channel name
@tomp538
@tomp538 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear about CCR. I had it wrong for 50 years, thanks for setting the record straight.
@rogerboyle8538
@rogerboyle8538 2 жыл бұрын
There have only been about 10 real geniuses in modern music and songwriting , Fogerty is in that 10
@TheVatonaught
@TheVatonaught 2 жыл бұрын
naw...lots more than we even know about...
@davidsteinberg2120
@davidsteinberg2120 2 жыл бұрын
10, but Elton john, and Prince are in there for sure..
@LlyleHunter
@LlyleHunter Жыл бұрын
There are two kinds of people in the world, those that believe that the world is comprised of two types of people and those that don’t.
@djquinn11
@djquinn11 Жыл бұрын
@@davidsteinberg2120 : Elton John did not write any of his hits.
@jamesdelap4085
@jamesdelap4085 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@davidsteinberg2120 Elton anyway whoever. Although Prince did write lesser hits for others.
@teenapittman4241
@teenapittman4241 Жыл бұрын
CCR was my intro to rock. My aunt worked in a small town record store, and 'Down On the Corner' was the song I heard first. The record store closed before I was old enough to shop there tho. I bought my first album when I was 14 and it was CCR's 'Live In Europe'. I bought my second album at the same time and it was Grand Funk Railroad's 'We're an American Band'. I can't say which is my favorite. I love them both. For some reason, I thought I was 13 when I bought them, but their release dates say it can't be so.I had to be 14.
@itinerantpatriot1196
@itinerantpatriot1196 Жыл бұрын
When I was coming up, bands like CCR, The Doors, The Guess Who, and Grand Funk were among those leading the way after the breakup of the Beatles. I was especially fond of CCR because of Fogerty's vocals, which were unlike anyone else at that time. It's so sad to learn he and his brother never made their peace in this life. Maybe they will get an opportunity to explain themselves to one another in the next. I imagine there is a lot more to their problems than money and business allegiances. I compare their situation with Harry Chapin and the relationship he had with his brothers. I was fortunate enough to see Harry and his brothers perform on two occasions and what you picked up on beyond the fact they were tight as a band was the genuine love they had for each other. Harry's brothers were performing without Harry at first but Harry never held that against them and his brothers never begrudged the fact that their brother was the star of the band when they joined forces with him. You could tell from the way they joked around on stage that there was a real bond there. I'm sorry Tom and John couldn't work things out and remember that above all else, they shared kindred blood. Very sad story indeed.
@artofnoly9754
@artofnoly9754 Жыл бұрын
I still play his songs to this day on guitar with many different musicians and they all remember the tunes straight away. Thank you J.C. Fogerty!!
@LiliWhyte
@LiliWhyte Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. John's voice is entwined with that era. All these old CCR songs take me right back.
@Independently_Minded
@Independently_Minded Жыл бұрын
CCR's first record was released in '68. and the last album was in '72. Um, that's more than two years. What the band did in those four years was unprecedented. This is my favorite band of all time.
@frogger1952
@frogger1952 Жыл бұрын
I was 15 when I bought the Proud Mary 45. Then one day, I flipped to listen to Side B "Born on the Bayou" and thought this song is even better. I don't think I've gone a day in my life without listening to or playing a CCR song in my mind.
@MarvinMonroe
@MarvinMonroe 2 жыл бұрын
Fall? Come on now. He's been happily married for over 30 years. He's in good health, no drug or alcohol problems. He's a millionaire and has never been accused of "selling out" and he's been respected by anyone with good taste for almost 60 years now
@michaleenyproductions4007
@michaleenyproductions4007 Жыл бұрын
Incredible talent and band. Still a loyal fan after 50 years
@raffyc66
@raffyc66 Жыл бұрын
Hi, from Puerto Rico. I am glad the algorithm brought this channel to my attention. Very nice. I like the quirkiness, but also the content and information. Very funky, very well presented. Thank you. I know all Credence songs, love them and are on my playlist along with Zeppelin and Deep Purple and Janis.. (Old Soul?)
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