Su-50 PAK FA

[@tamarafridman8087]

Russian always have the best fighters !!!

[@combatchecker1]

This fighter is nearly identicle with the F-22 Raptor so its not really innovative

[@Chillypepperish]

Herr Rechtschreibfehler T-50 by all parameters superior to F-22

[@StellarBlue1]

When the BOEING FA-XX enters the theater, the Russians and Chinese are going to have to scramble to counter this incredible American aircraft. Primary missions include air combat, ground attack, surface warfare, and close air support. Other missions include reconnaissance, surveillance, target acquisition and electronic attack. With the F-35 Lightning II in a supporting role, and UNCLAS unmanned aircraft, NOTHING will be able to intimidate the Americans. Certainly nothing Russian or Chinese.

[@montsemartinez1954]

***** Are you sure? I don´t believe it.

[@ad0lfhitl3r377]

and most beautiful women )

[@trodat07]

Where did you get all those CGI pics of the Pak Fa? Every time I search, Google only gives me real photos of the T-50. Thanks, thanks to everyone for your thumbs down, people! Very kind of you!

[@rus-deadspace2377]

SU BEST :)

[@ironfalcon100]

@mopar31 They are having trouble perfecting a 5th gen supercruising turbofan for the PAK FA. The best one they have is the 117S, an updated version of the AL-31F family, which has limited supercruise capability. They would need an equivalent to the Raptor's PW F119.

[@CartesianCat]

Very clever rebuttal, Mommy and Daddy must be so proud. Maybe they'll print it out and stick it on the refrigerator.

[@FRANK1FM]

I'm American and have to admit I'm impressed.This is not all propaganda.Russians have better jet fighters than we do.Our US Airforce conducted mock air to air combat with our F-15 Eagles against Russian fighters and the Russian fighters scored kills on both F-15 Eagles.These results were published by our own US Airforce,I read the whole article.I was stunned.Our F-18 and the new F-35 are no match against Russian fighters.Our F-22 has many problems,although I give the edge to our F-22,barely.

[@lape2002]

I love how you first came with "F-22 HAS IRST!!!" and now somewhat bend your responses to "F-22 WILL HAVE IRST".... always a good laugh

[@Prinzomniac]

Wow, the Counter Strike intro music really got my memories back to how awesome the game was lol. I miss the younger me lol

[@ironfalcon100]

@moredinero True. The PAK FA design team combined the best features of those three planes and rolled them into one airframe design. YF-23's nose, forward fuselage and movable vertical stabilizers, F-22's planform design and Flanker's spaced engines and tail sting. The tail sting contains a rear-facing radar.

[@riverman83]

Actually the first PAK-FA was tested on the runway in russia on 24 of december when the engines was tested and the plane taxied cross the runway. The first flight is planned for january-february 2010. Have some doubt about the plane joining the airforce by 2015 though.

[@denifun_play_she530]

Видео 2009 г. Т-50 уже испытывается во всю. Щас 2016.

[@ironfalcon100]

@Ghill3man The Raptor's avionics are already the most advanced for any 5th Gen fighter. The PAK FA is still in the prototype stage, and the demonstrated avionics are still in in the development or beta stage.

[@mopar31]

@ironfalcon100 where do you get all of your information? you seem to know a lot about this plane, a lot more than i can find at least

[@ironfalcon100]

@JohnMillimetron These are artist's impressions of the PAK FA I had sourced from the Internet at the time I made this video, which I uploaded prior to the PAK FA's first flight. The PAK FA isn't a direct copy of the F-22, but it incorporates the best features from both the F-22 and YF-23 and rolled into one airframe.

[@PsychicPinguin]

@apocalypse359 another name is SU-27UB. engine type AL31F LLUV. That was used only for experiments. Conclusion was as follows: Torque and maneoueverability at high speeds is more important then low IR signature and maneuverability at low speeds/reverse usage airborne. (rectangular "flat" exit creates dramatic turbulance that lowers torque significantly in comparison with round exit) Therefore you can witness axisymmetric thrust vectoring systems on Sukhoi and Mikoyan planes for more then 20 yrs

[@leee2593]

This isn't their first 5th generation fighter, the first one, sadly a barried project, was the Su-47 Berkut.

[@ironfalcon100]

The PAK FA incorporates features from both the Raptor and Black Widow. It incorporates the Raptor's planform arrangement and the Black Widow's 'ruddervators'.

[@ironfalcon100]

The Su-47 Berkut's FSW layout was only for technology demonstration, but the PAK FA's wing layout would superficially resemble that of the Raptor. The PAK FA should have 3D TVC, but the problem is the IR signature. The round nozzles would light up an IRST unit like a Roman candle.

[@mopar31]

@FelixRohatyn i dont remember what it's called but there's a way to see jet wakes in the air and actually follow it to the source. there are also missiles that use infrared tracking and follow the heat from the engine, i know that the B-2 and F-117 both have the jet inlets purposely set back from the end of the plane so the surrounding cool air can mix with jet exhaust and reduce the heat signature so it's harder for a SAM to track them

[@ironfalcon100]

Not a direct replica, but the PAK FA's wing planform is based on the F-22. Take note of the engine spacing and the nozzles. Which plane is more stealthy both in the radar and IR spectrum?

[@lape2002]

The feature into which the T-50 truly is a remarkable aircraft is its superior kinematic performance and superagility which will can prove decisive in WVR fights with VLO aircraft as well as having potential to become UCAV in the future.

[@ironfalcon100]

@Mr2fierce I beg your pardon? An exact cop of the YF-23? Not exactly, but the PAK FA incorporates the best design features from the underdog YF-23, such as the forward fuselage and movable vertical stabilizers in one highly maneuverable airframe.

[@ahamayoisac]

@scorpions7536 Actually the Su-27 and MiG-29 were developed as a response to the "teen series" F14, 15 and 16. Each of those had some good ideas so the Russians developed those further and incorporated into the Su-MiG tactical duo. The idea of Su27 and MiG29 to have practically identical cockpits is very clever, any pilot can just switch from one to the other at short call and be very relaxed and comfortable to fly either craft. Nothing is ever as simple as copy, its all about developing ideas.

[@ironfalcon100]

@LucoPunx Maximum speed in not that much of an important factor, as long as its top speed is above Mach 2. The 5500 km range for the PAK FA is internal fuel + 1 air refueling. It is not a long-range bomber. The maximum range is obviously misleading because it denotes its ferry range. The F-22 had the best specs available at the time it made its first flights and entered operational service.

[@KrautGoesWild]

About the emblem at the beginning: what´s that pencil-like thing in the center together with the wings and the propeller?

[@TheKingOfTheSaxons]

Oh how lovely, another youtube page where people are having a go at each other

[@kokone9]

Amazing. I've seen the flight this morning.

[@Muhammadiqbal-nl8ip]

really?

[@srheadshot1]

the name is T-50 PAK FA and this is another one of the bests jets, like the mikoyans and sukhois

[@ironfalcon100]

@TakajoMiyazaki The Counter-Strike theme song was the best soundtrak I had at the time I made this video. lol.

[@tjonesauto]

An ace fighter pilot will know his advantage as soon as they see the wings.

[@ironfalcon100]

AFAIK, it could be early 2010, but Sukhoi is maintaining a delicate balance with its Su-35BM program, acting as a stopgap in case of delays with the PAK FA.

[@ironfalcon100]

True. The VVS may be able to only field no more than 40-50 PAK FAs, equipping two fighter regiments, and crewed by their best trained pilots.

[@delhiclodhopper]

This look Greattttt!!!!! So excited about it

[@Muhammadiqbal-nl8ip]

What about now

[@ironfalcon100]

Sooner or later, they might be facing a peer adversary (we know who they are). The playing field would have been leveled by then. BTW, looking at the PAK FA pictures, one thing catches my mind: The round nozzles - the PAK FA does not have the same degree of IR stealth as the F-22. It would be more vulnerable in the rear quarter from IR AAMs. Other than that, only its immediate F-22 rival, can hold some ground against the PAK FA in a dogfight, AFAIK.

[@orlock20]

Yes, Russia has 3 working models for testing, which is about how many working copies of the F-35 there are. It will be interesting to which craft hits the assembly lines first since both are suppose to be on active duty within the next 5-10 years.

[@SovietBear91]

@TheGeekFreek T-50, MiG 1.44 and SU-47 were all designed in the 1980`s. so the raptor looks like the Pak Fa!

[@ironfalcon100]

@MuerteyMalevolencia They used the F-22's design as the basis for the PAK FA, because Sukhoi's engineers discovered the benefits of the planform alignment design.

[@danieldb631]

Not bad. Looks like the design incorporates various existing aircraft features blended into one. I see some YF-23, SU-37, F-18, F-15, and EF-2000 in there. Pretty good concept. I wonder what it can do, though.

[@ironfalcon100]

@xmodMAN76 What's wrong with that? As long as the PAK FA is not a carbon copy, but an equivalent to the F-22.

[@ironfalcon100]

@rockpianoguy Sukhoi would be fitting L-band AESA radar sets in the leading edge flaps on production PAK FAs, in addition to the X-band AESA in the nose and the stub tail stinger.

[@Alex137637]

гениально! и что есть примеры успешного применения этого оружия?

[@MattBo1993]

@Ariana321 The PAK is actually larger than the Raptor and I read somewhere that it's also less agile as well as less stealthy. This thing is more of an intercepter than a fighter like the Russians big Foxbats.

[@ironfalcon100]

The stuff that remain classified are its true RCS figure,max range, max speed and avionics package, IIRC.

[@SEAL52]

@MoeJae86 seems like canards won't be necessary for this plane since it seems it don't need any stabilizer for extreme maneuvers.

[@ironfalcon100]

Still undergoing flight tests. It should enter full production by 2015 or so, and active squadron service with the Russian VVS later that year.

[@Commiton]

Love those red stars.

[@ironfalcon100]

And the USAF has the honor of being the first and only air force to effectively perfect and utilize it on stealth aircraft, and have used them in combat over Panama, Desert Storm and Operation Allied Force.

[@ironfalcon100]

@TheGeekFreek Superficially, it does have the Raptor-like appearance.

[@vtkrey]

PAK FA first flight has now been achieved, flight took approx 40 minutes, it landed minutes ago.

[@Mandrak789]

@TheGeekFreek not really, in fact it is very different from F-22 and some of these old pictures, basically speculations, are now obsolete after public show of T-50

[@Roger2465]

@Fitzcard Raptor got a radar lock on it from a EF from close range but F22 is BVR plane, has to fly higher, faster than it actually does and the airforce knows that but obviously there not gonna demonstrate to thier opponents what it can do.

[@Mandrak789]

@SAMTOMAS that's no engine fire, it happens normally with all planes... nothing unusal nor dangerous happened there

[@tsunami770]

@joshwashposh right... The fact that it is a clear design replica of the F22 Raptor (showing up years after the Raptor was already made) sure backs up your opinion.

[@MoeJae86]

@SEAL52 I see thanks! I wonder have they totally abandoned the idea of using canards?

[@lape2002]

The T-50 frontal VLO appearance, like the F-35, offers significant stealth capacity in all forward areas, crucial in most BVR fights. Mature PAK-FA will certainly offer more VLO capacity when the new 3DTVC supercruising engine is fitted. Major RCS reduction and supercruise ability presented by PAK-FA will deny F-22 and Legacy fighters advantage of first-look first-kill, compressing missile engagement timeline and space well inside BVR parameters, where T-50 superagility could prove decisive.

[@milllosh]

Colonel John Boyd himself, among othes, stated about US not having more than 5 combat usable airplanessince WW2 (mostly fighters), leading to development of new combat strategies, F16 and F18. they called him The Mad Major. Turned out not to be. Su-47 was a typo, i meant SU-34 in Gorgia. Sry about that. As far as the shooting F117 down, check it out, colonel Zoltan Dani (he shot it down) explains it, so do multiple other documentaries, specifically about using the mobile phone grid .

[@ironfalcon100]

@WeedIsGood4Y0u Yeah, but they weren't completely stealthy, just a reduced RCS with internal weapons carriage.

[@ironfalcon100]

@adad2757 Not completely; the design is influenced by the F-22 through its planform layout; the YF-23 by its nose and forward fuselage and the Su-35BM by its engines and the spacing between them.

[@MrROTD]

thats really beautiful looking actually , I can't think of a Sukhoi that sucks so I wouldn't underestimate this plane.

[@SEAL52]

@MoeJae86 yes they do. russian trust vectoring system moves in both horizontal and vertical direction and hard to identify because looks similar to a normal nozzle.

[@xREDGHOSTRIDERx]

@ironfalcon100: Nice compilation. I can't get over how much this thing looks like a 22 though. I guess to achieve some of the things that the F-22 does, however, they kinda HAVE to model it after the Raptor. I just hope that it doesn't lead to friendly fire incidents as it would be hard to distinguish the silhouettes.

[@apocalypse359]

@PsychicPinguin there is nothing in common between the f-22 and the yak 41m except the twin engine design, as gwissel1 already noted. Also su-27 has a different type of thrust vectoring than the f-22, so i have no idea what you are talking about.

[@lape2002]

Judging from aerodynamic and airframe performance during its first flight, we can tell that most features found on superagile fighters like the Su-35, are present now in the T-50 (It even showed STOL capacity). To provide extreme agility, Sukhoi's design team employed all-moving stabilators and canted tail fins, a nodding movable LEX design, and 3D axi-symmetric engine nozzles. BTW, KnAAPO officials have disclosed that the aircraft has indeed an onboard AI computer,

[@ironfalcon100]

But have they yet implemented it on a military aircraft? Only the United States has been the first to have done so, from the SR-71 Blackbird to the F-22 Raptor. The PAK FA would be a litmus test for a non-U.S. stealth fighter design.

[@Bonpoc4er]

Люди, подскажите, саунд откуда? случайно не из игры Проект IGI?

[@lape2002]

oh yeah?? When was that? In which paralel world was that??

[@ganimede1054]

Russia sent the first artificial satellite in space in 1957 (Sputnik 1), the first man in space and to orbit the Earth, the first space station (they also happen to be the best in the field), they also sell RD-170 rocket engines to US, a technology in the '50 the americans thought to be impossible to recent times. There are also many other experimental designs: SU-37, S-37, S-54, MIG-MFI (plasma device). What trend are you talking about?

[@Baseshocks]

@TH7596 i dont think its a bad aircraft. its just that the nations who buy them are the ones who are slack on maintenance. but ya i dont know.

[@DrSagaciousone]

Russian plane or not this is one HOT plane! I am an american but I appreciate good technology no matter where it comes from .

[@Sysan1215]

HOLY SHIT this aircraft is ENORMOUS!

[@pro100dim]

@mattmatt115 ты был на макс 2011?)) мне жаль побывать не удалось...

[@JamesLPlummer]

@Talshet You know that the F-22 was designed before the PAK FA, correct? You know the F-22 has superior avionics? You know the F-22 has radar absorbing paint? Who's copying who? I still love the PAK FA, as I love aircraft, and I don't discriminate about who made it.

[@meta.5studios]

@HaloAzzazzin666 Just because the wings format and the air intakes are remind Raptor's it doesn't mean that the plane is a copy of it.

[@Джалильзабиров]

Пишите сколько хотите , НО нас не победить !!! СССР ВПЕРЕД!!!

[@wildchild77x]

0:52 love that paint scheme

[@Baseshocks]

@Grimreeper102 the stealth, speed of the T-50 is classified just like the stealth and speed of the F-22. Agility can be estimated from looking at the airframe. P.S the Russians have been working with thrust vectoring far before the U.S they have 360 degrees vector..

[@packr72]

it's made by the same company sukhoi, and right now it uses the su35's engines

[@ahamayoisac]

As for F22, a good plane design should be done with the view of upgrades including the engines. Su50 was developed in the 80s the work was suspended in the 90s due to the political situation in Russia, i.e. change of government and economic difficulties. The F22 was put to proposal in 1991 and it was as a response to both, MiG 29 and Su 27 and intelligence that the Soviets were working on Gen5 fighter.

[@ironfalcon100]

Engine designs for fighters get more complex by each generation. It is no easy task for NPO Saturn, the engine manufacturer trying to successfully develop a PW F119 equivalent.

[@Dominikmj]

@Dominikmj Sorry; I meant Suchoi. I always thought, that the Pak Fa was called T-50 and supposed to be produced by Mig....

[@AmericanPatriot53]

@val28l Note that US provided Soviets with C-47s on lend lease, they produced the LI-2 and then said it was a Soviet design. The major variation between the f-22 and the SU-50 are those big honkin exhausts on the back of the SU-50. As far as the US not being the center of the world, ask a New Yorker. Other than that we are very proud of US contributions to aerospace. 787's are looking good while Aussies say all A-380s should be grounded. Regardless airbus is going to take a bath on that plane.

[@startingbark0356]

Bruh america copied the Fokker G.1 with P-38, they also copied several fokker bomber designs, B-25 is copied from fokker T.V

[@xman5649]

Did they get then plans from Revell o, Monogram, or Tamiya??

[@ironfalcon100]

Sometime next year, 2010, will be the PAK FA's rollout and first flight. As aviation fans, we are literally waiting in impatience for the Russian 5th Gen fighter's debut. Just waiting, waiting, waiting. The longer the PAK FA is delayed, the longer its U.S. rival, the F-22 Raptor can enjoy air dominance and hold the crown of world's best air superiority fighter. And I am skeptical on how many PAK FAs would be built and how many would the Russian VVS operate. I'd guess 40-50.

[@gigabytemon]

The Counter Strike music makes this that much more sexy.

[@NinerMX]

@Serkant75 I didn't know that, but It's not an old story. It always happens…"no one is prophet in his own land"

[@kertaspaper94]

@aerodc8 cool man, it's not fair that u guys got all the good stuff, and since the US isn't sharing most of it, other countries will have to make one themselves.

[@MrTamer125]

what is the name of the song at the video's beginning ?

[@lape2002]

Newer ones? Such as??? The PAK-FA is told to be going into service by 2015, I don't see any F-22C/D or Super F/A-35 in the horizon

[@Desperadounico]

Again as always, their design is very similar to our American design, I am not surprised, they've been doing this since WW2.

[@benjacob]

@ironfalcon100 That is actually cool! :D - Looking good - an a kick ass machine.

[@ironfalcon100]

@poyanator The counter-strike theme song was the best one I had at the time I made this video. o_0

[@lape2002]

"it will be just as vulnerable against the F-22 as a 4th gen fighter, from BVR." And how exactly are you do that? considering that the F-22 has lost its primary IRST capacity during pre-production. In a typical BVR engagement, the signature that counts is the frontal exposition, All forward area of the PAK-FA display VLO appearance similar to the F-35. If LM sells this feature as 5th gen. material and as being efficient, why wouldn't it be the case on the T-50?

[@AmonBlack]

@Galova i've heard that Russia stopped the Mig-1.44 project and sold one of the prototype to China which they are building the J-20 based on it. Also i guess the new 4++ Egyptian fighter is based on the Mig-1.44

[@Roger2465]

@Fitzcard Yes i know that anti stealth tech is on the rise but im saying that pakfa has plasma stealth that creates heat which leaves it vulnerable to getting both radar and heat lock on it, raptor can get both also but from close visual range, can't wait for the F/A xx, its like a cross between b-2 spirit and the raptor

[@lape2002]

We must wait the production models to appear to see if the current VLO performance will be reduced. In either case, current configuration shows a certain mastery by the Russians of VLO design, and besides, as I noted earlier, stealth in only a feature among others to maximize combat performance. As stealth advantage can diminish in the near-future, Sukhoi has mostly put emphasis on maneuvrability, aerodynamics, range and weapon payload as basis of a long lasting fighter for the 21th century.

[@Drew12911092]

About one of the top comments... The F-15 has a 150-0 K/D ratio... it has never been shot down by another country the only losses we have with it are pilot errors...

[@puertoricofree]

@akulaknight Most fighters can "detect" the Raptor. It's frontal cross section is tiny though so at absolute best you might pick it up at 35 miles, which is long after the Raptor has launched AIM-120's and is halfway back to base. Are you really claiming the MIG 25 is a better plane than the F-15C?

[@ForgotteMemories101]

@democracyindia2 Actually it was a F-117 that was brought down by Col. Zoltan Dani, a Serbian. Also there is no such thing as a b12, but we do happen to have a B-2. So please get your facts straight from now on :)

[@swot54]

Can someone plz tell me what the difference between PAK FA and FGFA is? I just looked on wilkipedia and it seems like the PAK FA Is the russian version that cost 20 - 40 million us dollars and FGFA is the Indan version that cost 100 million us dollar. If that is true, why do the FGFA cost so much more? Is it better?

[@shnozzsauges]

@sud I agree the arms race is a big waste of money I would be nice if it could all go away and everyone could just get a long anyway your reply was well thought out and written and may you have a great life...