SU&SD REVIEW HORSES: Long Shot - The Dice Game

[@CarrotandStick]

"Chess, by Reiner Knizia" may be the nerdiest and greatest gag SU&SD have ever made

[@BigDerfGaming]

I know that travel and Covid make getting together for reviews hard, so wanted to call out how fun it was to have a everyone in on the bit.

[@MrTombombodil]

Another data point in the "Quinns just loves gambling games" that goes all the way back to the early days of the channel.

[@martenvisser8483]

I think this is the game where I understood the rules less the longer the review went on. BUt it has wooden horses, so yay!

[@CincyAirshipPirate]

As long as your nipples remain rock hard with excitement, all is good

[@matthewnaveiras]

After Tom's stellar review, it looks like Regular Trucker is already sold out on GameNerdz, with copies selling on the secondary market for 150% the MSRP.

[@ifnyou]

I just don't think I can be satisfied with Regular Trucker now that I know Regular Trucker 2: Even More Regular is available. It just feels like it would be a step backwards.

[@elburtoKU11]

Horse is okay... but is Quinns okay? That was the look of a broken man.

[@XMarkxyz]

Everybody always asks "how is the boardgame?" but nobody asks "how is the reviewer?"...

[@Aquadoozy]

We played it as a two player and thought it was surprisingly fantastic at a low player count. Then we showed it off at gamenight as a 5 player to fairly new gamers, and it was so chaotic and was amazing. Glad to see it getting the attention it deserves. The hype towards the end of the game as horses start finishing is as if we really did have money on the line 😆

[@durden2591]

Where'd ya get it!?

[@NATOnova]

@@durden2591 currently in stock at boardlandia

[@Ovetupp]

I snorted at Chess by Reiner Knizia.

[@greatunderstanding]

He would make that!

[@yashizuko]

Okay i see a pattern here: the reason why personally i enjoyed games like "quacks of quedlinburg" or "capitan sonar" and "the king dilemma" and probably this is basically the lack of turns and everyone is involved at all the time, theres not "oh it's your turn now i can ignore it" and the games being very thematic, crap i have to buy this too! hahaha

[@TheRatedOniChannel]

Definitely the best games of all times for me are the ones that, while you may play your own strategy and plans, the game forces you to look up, step away from what you are doing for a moment, and pay close attention to what the other players are doing, which just changes the interactions so much more.

[@joelface]

@@TheRatedOniChannel Absolutely agree.

[@tahubob]

Would love to see a comparison episode with Camel Up, that game rules

[@OranjeDiscoDancer]

Camel Up is probably in my top 3 board games and while this does look tempting I have a feeling I would go to Camel more often. Nicer aesthetic and less complexity with all these different items to spend your money on. And at the same time you still get that drama of a dice roll pushing camels forward and back on the track.

[@zerwif]

In Long Shot you are constantly straped for cash. Using the concession stand is the only reliable way to get money during the race. Then everyone may get huge pay outs at the very end. Camel Up you instead have various means of making money each round: rolling dice from the pyramid, betting on a leg, cheer/boo tiles. The winner/loser bet is a more moderate swing.

[@tomackerman2781]

As a huge Camel Up fan, I definitely want to try Long Shot.

[@gordonwiley2006]

I think over the course of the past two years, we have all had a moment where we have been Quinns, sitting on the floor, hitting a wooden horse with a hammer and then asking "are you okay?!" to the horse... To the room... To ourselves.

[@chrismyers9897]

Quinns has an absolutely insane number of plants in his apartment. It looks more like the Amazon every time he does a review.

[@JorWat25]

Great, now it'll be even harder to find this… I already couldn't find a UK retailer who had a copy.

[@TableTopWolf1984]

That's coz us uk backers copies are stuck in customs, it's a blooming mess

[@JorWat25]

@@TableTopWolf1984 I knew they shouldn't have made the board out of pure rabies virus...

[@Miller3492]

I just got this game today and my group loves it. It's so thrilling when you are fighting for the finish. It's one of our new top games.

[@jopurves6418]

How is no one talking about Quinns biting into an un-pealed banana?? This has totally distracted me from the rest of the review!

[@ANAKHA8]

Yes! Now I'm just sitting here wondering; what did it taste like? Does he always eat them like that? I wasn't prepared for this so early in the morning.

[@bodybagbilly]

I'm convinced: We deserve Quinn's growing a giant bushy moustache.

[@papanovember80]

Quinns mentioned it in passing, but this has a surprisingly good solo mode as well, with an AI card that does stuff based on the dice roll and the game conditions.

[@joelface]

I love Camel Up and I think I'd love this game too. I love a game where a single dice roll can make EVERYONE pay attention and someone using a special ability can affect everyone at the table, and when it's your turn everyone is watching to see if what you do helps or hurts them. I feel like in this game there's just a bit more you can DO, and that might make it a nice step-up from Camel Up after you've played that one a while, but you can't beat how accessible and hilarious Camel Up is.

[@et2neoh]

I haven't been THIS instantly sold on a boardgame in a really long time.

[@strctlykilz]

I've had this on my wish list since they covered it in a SHUX preview event. Now it's going to be completely sold out :(

[@TJAddams]

I enjoyed this review and wanted the game before the end. I finally got my copy and have loved betting on these chunky wooden horses!! I don't know what I did without SU&SD!!!

[@TheSchaef47]

The nice part about retheming this game to be about crypto: you don't even have to change the name.

[@garyesposito4025]

Available on Barnes and Noble's website and it comes with an exclusive extra set of horse cards

[@travisthomas4397]

Thank you for this!!

[@trduity]

I search for your channel and BAM, a video posted a minute ago 😍

[@jannagregory7928]

This is a delightful roll and write party game! I’ve played it twice since it arrived and am so tickled I got it. Nice moustache.

[@Codex_of_Wisdom]

I had to pause and gag when he ate that banana...

[@Bleuchz]

Love the visual gag of all the Button Shy games from tom's review sitting in the background :)

[@sirspate]

How does Tom not get credit for most reviews in 10 minutes with his expansions review? Justice for Tom!

[@excitebox]

I just picked this up Saturday at Barnes & Noble, I really like it! Great suggestion.

[@excitebox]

the B&N version also comes with a "Horse Set" mini expansion, so there are 4 total horse packs in the box, not 3 as pictured on the back of the package. I love unexpected bonuses :)

[@eopatcjo]

I love finding a game in my collection that I think is vaguely obscure, then seeing SUSD already reviewed it.

[@carlwilkerson9722]

"Just to get serious for a second, I probably shouldn't have used permanent marker." -- Aspiring Gambling Addict, 2022

[@henryjoconnell]

Appreciate Quinns even taking a moment to consider the incredibly negative connotations of horse racing on the animals and people. Awesome review

[@CardboardBones]

I didn't realize Chess was a Knizia game, that's awesome!

[@TheRatedOniChannel]

Every game in existance was made by our lord and savior Knizia.

[@triangulan]

Utterly visceral physical reaction to that shot of Quinns munching that banana skin and all... I dislike bananas at the best of times, but that just made my skin crawl and every part of me wince.

[@Unicronsupreme]

A little surprising that Camel Up was not mentioned in the comparison section

[@MrBongoking]

I don’t think they’ve ever recommended it, so that’s probably why. Yes, I agree this sounds pretty similar to that.

[@HQofrandom]

Have both and they are very similar, Longshot has a lot more decision making to do and the game feels faster. Love camel up too though

[@Unicronsupreme]

@@MrBongoking that makes sense. It's still probably worth noting preferences between the two.

[@phaze2010]

Ya I thought of that too. Perhaps cause its not a roll & write? Though neither is Ra, so I dunno.

[@garyesposito4025]

They did review it in 2014 and said it was forgettable. I think remember them joking about it barely being a game at one point.

[@lostmarble540]

How did he take such a clean bite out of that unpeeled banana? Are his teeth made of steel?

[@TheRatedOniChannel]

Years and years of practice.

[@foxbomber5]

Next review, in a month or so, I expect Quinns to still have that mustache.

[@DoctorEth]

Good to know even the rest of SU&SD think Tom's reviews are brilliantly unhinged!

[@johnathanrhoades7751]

Love this! I will note that the recognizability of the old thumbnail style is really helpful. Almost missed this video due to the thumbnail change. Innovation is wonderful, but something that screams "this is an SU&SD review!!" Is quite helpful for us smooth brains.

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

If you want more games were you bet on races, try Camel Up. It's similar but you get to drop dice out of a pyramid and the board has a pop up palm tree on it.

[@luisc1402]

My god, biting a banana like that for content. banana/10 for commitment.

[@DanielVasquez-rr2fn]

"Chess by Reiner knizia" love it 😆

[@dannyh5540]

'The stench of adrenal sweat and economical body-spray.'

[@Norm-R]

In fairness, I think if you hit me with a hammer and then asked me if I was okay, I probably also would not answer. Though I am not sure that I would be okay.

[@hansb918]

My copy comes in today, can't wait to show it to my friends!

[@benji-menji]

Don't worry Quins, your the fastest board game reviewer in my heart. :)

[@drymeatpowered]

I really like Knizia’s horse racing game Winner’s Circle. So this had me tempted on Kickstarter. Review got me to preorder a copy.

[@tehpickle1250]

Oooooo wooden horses, a lovely dice, a lovely box with a magnetic clasp. Stop stop stop! I’m such a sucker for nice things. That the game also seems really great is the cherry on top of this horsey….cake…?

[@diego-dias]

I lost it at "Chess, by Reiner Knizia"

[@StGSteve]

"Auf Achse" - the real world Regular Trucker - is actually a fun game!

[@zangster2k]

You need to check out Camel Up 2nd edition. Quite a fun racing/gambling game.

[@shelby142]

Yeah, I was waiting for a comparison to Camel Up, but it never came. Long Shot definitely seems to fill a similar niche.

[@natekoeppe855]

This looks like the gamers version of camel up. It is slightly more complex with a touch of additional strategy included. The lack of a comparison to camel up (version 1 or 2) is very confusing and it feels like a strange bit of oversight. I hope Quinns addresses it at some point.

[@Ristro44]

I can't belive i slept on this review video. That opening XD

[@seanfsmith]

I am so glad a roll and move game is this much fun

[@dionisisstefanitsis6497]

Manila is an excellent worker placement betting game that you bet on which ships will finish first. I am constantly looking for a game to replace it since we have pleyed it out. I think I will have to try long shot the dice game!

[@HubbiNashrullahM]

I'm way too excited than I should be about the fact that I have the exact same pair of earphones as Quinns. Also, Long Shot sounds like a brilliant game. Very tempted to buy a copy!

[@adamwojtasiak6204]

I played this for the first time last night and had a lot of fun!

[@digidested2000]

The people need to know: how long did it take you to get that mustache off?

[@lucency]

Off? That's just his face now.

[@concray]

Smashes horse with hammer. "Are you ok?" No answer. "Results are inconclusive," Quintin "Horse Killer" Smith

[@andrewp6738]

"chess by reiner knizia" lmfaoooooo

[@marrioman13]

Bittersweet. This is an excellent review and I was on board as soon as it came up on the podcast, but I was hoping you wouldn't cover it until it was available on the market. Good luck getting hold of it guys :(

[@TheRatedOniChannel]

I mean, you can buy it directly form the publisher, since the kickstarter is over they started selling the game.

[@BillTheSpill]

It's also available from Barnes and Noble if you're in America

[@JorWat25]

@@TheRatedOniChannel Not great for those of us in Europe. $28 shipping on a $30 game…

[@armstronghawkins9183]

"Stupid"? "Fun"? "Gambling?" **************and********** "up to EIGHT players?" I'm sold!

[@armstronghawkins9183]

...and the art is great!

[@C0llinsW0rth.]

wait wait wait. i might actually retheme this for that crypto market. If i do, I'll remember to say "Thank you Shut Up and Sit Down for the thought!"

[@onedeadsaint]

loved how silly this episode was! I'll definitely be rewatching this the next time I get high!

[@kshokrollahi9103]

Super Mega Lucky Box is clearly going to be your next favourite Roll and Write along similar lines. Followed shortly by Hadrian's Wall along dissimilar lines. Along with long shot, we probably have the best 3 roll n writes ever..... My copy of long shot TDG should arrive from the states any time now. Can't wait!

[@Ipazc]

The Chess by Reiner knizia took me off guard 🤣🤣🤣

[@wiiplayers19]

Backed it on Kickstarter, it’s a blast

[@luigiscazzari4724]

The wooden globe is a true touch of class

[@cterrell4861]

I won Ra at WBC in the mid-2000s, still love that game, and howled at the comparison. Truly funny, my favorite part of a great review. Definitely buying this game, fills the 6+ gamers niche nicely.

[@InkyBloc]

Yes, I KNEW there was an asteroid in that sector! Oh wait that sound's from the video...

[@ambroselam440]

Actually camel cup probably closer in similarity. You bet on camels going around a racetrack.

[@gg-er1vv]

camel cup is a good racing/betting game, but I think I might trade it in for this game. smaller box is a huge plus

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

This doesn't have a cool dice-dropping pyramid, though!

[@tilasole3252]

The glue made for the packaging was made from horses.

[@crookedevolution]

Now this is a roll and write I can get excited about.

[@dannybaruela]

I see Quinns has a Pixel, I knew he was a man of culture.

[@airguitarbandit]

I feel the need to mention QE, an excellent and crazy simple dry-erase-powered auction/economy game. Highly highly recommend.

[@drewvonawesome8851]

The only thing that makes this game better is a house rule that if someone buys a horse, they get to rename it to whatever they want, and everyone can only refer to it by the new name.

[@clinthakeman893]

Best review of chess I've ever seen. Props to Ava

[@Doolin_Tablenauts]

I love this game. I've already played it at 2 and 1, and can't wait to try it at much higher player counts soon :)

[@007bistromath]

quinns you clearly just wanted to sniff the marker

[@ben_chandler]

FACT: Quint makes cake icing analogies in 57% of his reviews.

[@Komplexitet]

2:11 That sound effect is the same one I use for Runescape so I got confused when I checked the game haha

[@Seydaschu]

10:41 Terry Bogard about to unleash Buster Wolf.

[@mipakr]

but, the banana... skin and all?!

[@TheSchaef47]

I have the original board game so this is of great interest to me.

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

Have you SU&SD reviewed this or a very similar game before? I'm getting crazy deja vu and this is the only board game channel i watch. Even the design of the little wooden horses feels familiar :S

[@JorWat25]

They covered it for a SHUX preview, I think.

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

@@JorWat25 ahhh thats probably it yeh! ta

[@tomasavendanozacarias5205]

sad that we didnt get a review of Normal Trucker 2, its my favorite game from 20022

[@tilasole3252]

1:42 we need security down here. Crazy person on the loose!

[@neonmoon8356]

Outstanding intro 🤣😂🤣

[@craigrussell7542]

Time travelers. The players are time travelers. It's the only explanation.

[@paulstaker8861]

Waiting for this video to mention Camel Cup is like waiting for hell to freeze over It's still hot

[@Guiltygear008]

Sooo Camel up second edition with pen and paper?

[@bleachorange]

I think Quinn looks better with a mustache.

[@IanJN]

"Porcupine porcupine porcupine racetrack..."

[@denycast]

A game I am glad it is not available in german, right now. It would be an instant buy😅

[@frankharr9466]

But I LIKE chess. Nice mustache. Welcome to the club. Regular Trucker sounds interesting. I'm looking forward to it.

[@kocokan]

Congratz on breaking the world record

[@tilasole3252]

5:48 at the race track, everyone gets a free horse with the loyalty card. The losers are in the burgers...

[@fungiplays2289]

What a boy indeed, is our Tom

[@Fooddips]

So you hoard board games and she hoards plants. Fair enough.

[@MegaArcon]

All horse betters do indeed have mustaches...because they've gambled all their money away and can't afford to buy the bottom half of their facial hair.

[@joshuaogle2383]

This looks fantastic! Can anyone tell me where I can get it?