FX DRS Solid barrel conversion

[@Richie-f5y]

Nice work as an engineer myself its great seeing people trying to make things better.👍

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you

[@ian-petersimpson1565]

The original editing was spot on for me, but the 'new and improved' is amazing, J - keep it up!

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@TurkishTinkerer]

I love the trigger cam. It was so fascinating watching you use it down the range and not even having to look down the scope. Lovely stuff gents 😁

[@sub12airgunners]

thanks mate 😀

[@rayingles1]

Learn so much from your videos I couldn't do the machining but understand so much more about how alterations change the shots. Both formats are fine by me.

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@leec8592]

Great video on the DRS. Its about time FX ditched the liner system and went solid barrel on all new guns. To me it seems the liner system holds their guns back so much with accuracy. Thanks for posting this video .....

[@sub12airgunners]

thanks Lee

[@Tim_Bassett]

Both video formats are fine - mix and match and it won't be a problem :-) Good to see the improvement both with the valve tightened and the new barrel. Coming along nicely :-) Thanks for sharing.

[@sub12airgunners]

thanks Tim😀

[@Marcus1954s]

New format is fine. Thanks for explaining all your work. Also enjoyed slow motion chips.

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@mace8873]

As an airgunner and autodidact machinist, I really appreciate this video, great job!

[@sub12airgunners]

I appreciate that thanks for watching

[@martinthornton7554]

You are brilliant at what you do. I can't fault you. Obviously, Fx hasn't gotten the gun right if the barrel has to be changed on a brand new gun. I think they are trying to flood the market with too many models. I'd love a dream line classic 177 ,but I don't want to buy a new one and certainly, if it's not accurate. Keep the good work up I love watching your videos and find them very informative and interesting 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@gallantone1535]

Lovely workmanship it's always good to see how you explained the work even the wife watched 😀 and said isn't he good 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

😀 thank you and your wife 🙏 thanks for watching 👍

[@nicholasrichards2402]

What you FX boys need is the BSA hammer forged barrel fitted to all their guns.

[@Marcus1954s]

Yes but BSA stopped selling them so it isn't an option for everyone.

[@sub12airgunners]

funny you should say that i have one ready for the M4 when it turns up 😁 unless they have finely got the liner sys to work in sub 12 😂

[@sub12airgunners]

check Bagnall & Kirkwood they stock them again now 👍

[@Sae-fu5ch]

Deferent league now as always guys top class work . Fx must watch in amazement 😁

[@sub12airgunners]

thanks mate 😀

[@GrahamHenderson25x]

new editing is actually better. the tooling choice and description is interesting for everyone, old or new. 50yard groups should become an accuracy standard 👍👍👍 DRS shorty !! 😄

[@sub12airgunners]

thanks for watching 😀 yes we really want to do a shorty drs keep an eye out 😉

[@BadlydrawnBen]

Definitely an improvement after the valve tightened very impressive with the new barrel

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@ChrisJackson-tv2rj]

Incredible video. Brilliant detail. Nice work. 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

Thank you very much!

[@briancare1]

Another awesome video to watch to finish my day. But, im still waiting for the compact, like around 350mm barrel or even shorter. All the best

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you it's coming 😁

[@scrimdog3328]

Great editing mate loved it. Interesting results to not sure rifles should be leaving the shop with issue like this if I'm honest.

[@sub12airgunners]

i know what you mean but they seem to a fair bit now 😳

[@stillair1]

Thanks for the video, nice work. 8 to 11mm groups impressive. I've not been to Pete's for a while, last time it was about £5 for an evening session.😃😃

[@dgg2412]

£10 now, after 5pm, worth every penny 👍🏻

[@stillair1]

@@dgg2412 Thanks

[@Kralk.66]

Just WoW, I wish you would do a Pro Sport to show what could be improved on a Springer.

[@sub12airgunners]

not played with springers for a few years now but have great memories in my dads shed putting different springs in and mucking around with triggers 😁

[@Oregon-airguns]

Holy shit bro. I just can’t get over how freaking handy you are. I’ve been trying to figure out how to put my Drs back together for 2 damn days, you would have had it knocked out in 10 minutes LOL!!! Cheers from Oregon 🍻👍

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you 👍and thanks for watching 😁

[@shakesmadness]

Loved the video regardless mate. Keep it up!

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@philbate5555]

Yet another master class jake 👏 🙌 👌

[@sub12airgunners]

thanks Phil

[@Southsideanglingclub]

mad that people are making improved barrels for FX airguns. Quite a few years ago same thing happened with Benjamin barrels, particularly the .22 Marauder. The stock barrels were rubbish and an outfit by name of Marmot Militia addressed the barrel issue and hammer forged replica barrels that you could just install easily.The Marmot Militia barrels were very good and I have used them and they shot 1/2" groups at 50 yards. I did not expect FX to be in the same position whereby stock barrels were replaced by custom barrels

[@2speed818]

What an improvement 😮 awesome job as always I would like to put a regulator in my umarex origin but don't have to skill to do it lol.

[@sub12airgunners]

we haven't had one of them in the workshop yet so can be much help 😪 thanks for watching 👍

[@RenegadeAL]

Another great video guys. I personally think I prefer the new video format, nothing wrong with the usual format though 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@philmoran5898]

Great work as usual fella

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@GregAnslow]

Fantastic work.

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@rapalaron6348]

Great job👍 I was thinking to get myself a DRS but i keep my S410. The S410 is more accurate. I've seen many DRS reviews and every time i think those groups is my S410 doing easy....Cheers!

[@sub12airgunners]

yes the s410 is a great gun, thanks for watching

[@paulcarruthers1314]

Proves FX system is inferior to a solid barrel, unfortunately the majority of people don’t have access to your machinery. Nice job. You need to find a machine shop to knock these out commercially

[@Marcus1954s]

CZ/LW/anyone could make a small fortune by selling drop in barrels for FX owners.

[@sub12airgunners]

yes i agree😀 thanks for watching 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

yes i think they would sell very well in the UK 😀

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Off topic and a bit random but….I think you should start making some spring air rifle pistons with Delrin band on each end especially out of titanium for the hw99s and others, they would sell out quickly as your skill level and lathe work is amazing, lots of people would be interested in them.

[@sub12airgunners]

worth having a look at thanks for watching 👍

[@johnhorsfield4361]

An interesting video, looks like the effort put in to changing the barrel paid off. I have four FX air rifles of different calibres, the larger calibres have performed better with the original magazines but my .177 was awful, I ended up getting a couple of Carm magazines, these were much more consistent but I don't know why.

[@sub12airgunners]

yes i have shot a fair few of the larger cals and they do seem better

[@paulspeller968]

now that’s an improvement for sure . loose stuff on fx guns is not uncommon from what i have seen , really need to improve there QC department. still even when you tightened up that barrel it definitely made an improvement to the accuracy of the gun i would say 👍 but the hft barrel was the icing on the cake . particularly as this is a light gun so not the best for a bench test air rifle . but still put a good stamp in 👌

[@sub12airgunners]

it really makes the gun nice to shoot now, i think this will end up a fantastic gun 😀

[@chmarr]

i never knew normal drill bits move so much in a lathe compaired to a mill bit

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@harryarteza3435]

Cool vid thanks Jeff

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@myadventureman2636]

You are the best sir...

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@PaulSmith-jr1qe]

Hi, Do you know if they use a different block on the larger calibres, the back diameter of the transfer port is a little slim if you need to have a larger bore liner running through it.

[@sub12airgunners]

it's the same block as far as i know

[@lalagrima]

great information. Thank you. I have a question. I bought a new DRS and after degassing and removing barrel, I just can't fill the rifle again. I installed barrel again and now air leaks through the grub screws that hold the barrel in place. Any idea what is going on? Also, sometimes are leaks on the other side of the fill probe, as if air could not make it into the cylinder and pressure forces air through far end of fill probe. Any help is appreciated

[@sub12airgunners]

one of the o rings in the block at the breach end have been damaged i think there is 3 i would replace all 3 👍

[@PaulSmith-jr1qe]

Hi , When you drilled the port in the barrel did you drill to the air arms port size or the FX size, I believe the FX port to be slightly larger in diameter.

[@sub12airgunners]

we drilled it the same size as the fx port, but we did go a little larger when we shortened the barrel😁

[@marouaneladjel1907]

excellent

[@sub12airgunners]

Many many thanks

[@brorjordas1979]

Damn! Nice subject!👍🏻

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@three-phase562]

Certainly made some improvement to the accuracy. Shame you can't get that performance out of the original barrel though. New video format is fine for me, although there was nothing wrong with the old version, which ever style you find the easiest or best to produce.

[@sub12airgunners]

we could have kept going with it and put the carbon stiffener and given it a polish and got it better probably but we had the barrel so why not 😀

[@BobLewen]

Your air rifle modifications and machining talents never cease to amaze! Can you please tell me what is the exact carbide tool and tool holder you’ve been using in the recent videos?? The precision and finish produced are exceptional! Thanks.

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you👍 it's a PWT tool holder and carbide insert VCGT YG

[@andriessluiter4269]

Ha you beat me on this one. Have an Alfa .22 blank for an conversion like you did. And again an very nice job btw as used from you.

[@sub12airgunners]

it transforms to gun it's worth doing😁

[@PaulSmith-jr1qe]

What glue did you use to bond the brass sleeve on to the barrel out of curiosity.

[@sub12airgunners]

we use 24h epoxy and have never had any issues😁

[@stemcleeds]

Moral of the story is buy an FX then machine it into an Air Arms.

[@sub12airgunners]

🤣 thanks for watching 👍

[@mrmactknife]

I bet the .22 strike was from another FX owner mad about fact that they have a rubbish liner in their gun instead of a proper barrel. haha

[@sub12airgunners]

🤣🤣 it made me laugh i put my targets out of the way and someone still shoots them😁

[@FrostiTheRoadman]

It’s a shame fx don’t offer a rifled barrelled option instead of their liners.

[@sub12airgunners]

that would make sense but i think they work a lot better in FAC

[@FrostiTheRoadman]

@@sub12airgunners yes and I suppose we probably make up 5% of the sales so no point in catering just for us, I also reckon they must save a good £80 a barrel on using their liners as opposed to buying blanks from lothar Walther.

[@sub12airgunners]

@@FrostiTheRoadman at least i would say

[@mickphilp9]

hi would you be able to make barrel and pellet prob in .20 cal for a fx drs and how much would it cost

[@sub12airgunners]

Hi sorry we don't take on custom work 😌 Thanks for watching 🙏

[@jefferydoubler2870]

Wow much better why can't fx do it?? Great job 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

i think the liner sys must be much better in HP so they are not so worried about the sub 12 people

[@dgg2412]

Great work as always, like the new style vid but the previous one was spot on as well. Just curious, why is the transfer port part of both barrels brass and not steel?

[@sub12airgunners]

thanks Dave, ease of machining really brass is easy to work but we have done them in steel before so it can be done👍

[@Marcus1954s]

Also, Aluminium and steel react so common to use brass between alu block and steel barrels.

[@vincentsmith8328]

Another excellent vid Jeff...Wish I had that tooling at my disposal!😁 Question here...I have a cheapo that Ive done some tuning on and ended up with a great gun. Super consistent fps and several brands of pellet and HN slugs 10 13 and 16g shooting accurately and all in mid 11s. The one thing I notice is an oft change in POI on targets 50mm apart. I think Ive sussed some of it being down to a sensitive hold which you wouldnt expect so much on a PCP but doesnt totally explain it. I have noticed it occasionally on some of your targets but they are at 50m...mine are at a lesser 25 and 33! Any ideas? Cheers👍

[@vincentsmith8328]

Its a snowpeak by the way but I'd consider it a superb buy after tuning!

[@sub12airgunners]

A lot of the time POI shift is down to parallax error or cant 😀

[@LeeRigby-b8d]

Can you provide a solid barrel for impact m3?

[@sub12airgunners]

we have done a few for our guns so it can be done but well don't sell them

[@mymodel6]

This is like 2 Stroke Stuffing for air guns..! :)

[@sub12airgunners]

😁 thanks for watching

[@mymodel6]

@@sub12airgunners No worries :). You should definitely do more like this, seeing the machine work is awesome.. P.s, wanna borrow a Vixen...? ;)

[@thebear8068]

What lathe are you using ?. Good work….

[@sub12airgunners]

its a Warco GH1230 😀

[@thebear8068]

You do some beautiful work on it, looking to upgrade my lathe your Warco is very appealing as it’s 240v 👍

[@sub12airgunners]

@@thebear8068 thank you the warco is a great lathe for it's size i am very happy with it

[@RudyWiens-ww4xk]

CAN YOU CHANGE CALIBRE ON THE DRS

[@sub12airgunners]

yes you would need new complete barrel setup I.E liner jam nut and connecting part then you could swap them over

[@markhughes6692]

What scope are you using?

[@sub12airgunners]

it a Delta stryker we have to for the trigger cam 😀

[@Piupiu68az]

Good morning, are you curious about a 769 euro Air Venturi Avenge Classic X? Regards It is considered a good quality-price option, it would be nice to see how it performs, please.

[@sub12airgunners]

not seen one yet 😀

[@lewis1141951]

Is that a sub 12 rifle ?

[@sub12airgunners]

yes sub 12 thanks for watching 😁

[@jeffhello1444]

nice one 😁😁😁😁

[@sub12airgunners]

Thanks 😅

[@Retro.Warfare]

Do you sell these?

[@sub12airgunners]

no sorry we don't sell them 😕

[@vincentsmith8328]

Beautiful tempering colours on that end mill! Just sayin!😄

[@sub12airgunners]

that's the DLC coating looks nice how much it does who knows 😀

[@danbrown6255]

Great content if only fx could match your skills 😂

[@sub12airgunners]

😂 thank you and thanks for watching 👍

[@TheYewLongbow]

A very interesting video and I will be machining up a solid barrel for my DRS in the coming weeks. Cannot see this in the video. Did you machine the internal groove for the breech seal in the brass transfer port. Or was there a gap left between the barrel end and the sleeve to take the breech seal.

[@sub12airgunners]

Hi, if you use the standard fx brass TP off a standard liner sys it has the O ring groove in already so you just machine a thread on the end of the barrel and screw it on saves a lot of work, you can do them either way it just means you will need to cut the Oring groove and drill the TP hole if your not using the FX part

[@TheYewLongbow]

@@sub12airgunners Just catching up on comments. Than you for the info. Yes I agree with saving a lot of work. Grooving a barrel is a lot of close up and internal work..

[@MrKillerHobbes]

that looks like less accuracy to a diana stormrider. if u put a carbon sleave to tension the diana barrel its even more accurate than this fx, the diana outlaw is more accurate than this from factory and those are made by SPA in china. ive seen soo many grouping videos and it seems like price doesnt justify the performace for the higher end guns, they all seem to be not as accurate as id expect for the price, am i wrong for thinking this?? the grouping of the drs on ur vid and other vids i saw seem to be on par with somthing like a umarex notos

[@MrKillerHobbes]

weirhach springers break barrels are on par with this or am i wrong?

[@MrKillerHobbes]

geniunly confused

[@Esoxlucius51]

this is the only time in my life when i wish i`d trained as a machinist and not a coachbuilder!

[@sub12airgunners]

thank you 😀 thanks for watching 🙏

[@fredturner3852]

The fx barrels are pants 😢

[@sub12airgunners]

in sub 12 i agree they are a lottery at best 👍

[@shakesmadness]

just shows FX barrel liners are just not up to scratch. Selling customers a lower end FX with a smooth twist but good news ! you can buy a stx barrel for hundreds pounds extra and still not compete with AIR arms. When it comes to sub 12, FX are scam artists.

[@sub12airgunners]

FX in sub 12 do struggle to keep up IMO

[@BlatFlattery]

Fx barrels are inherently dodgy, constant poi shifts

[@sub12airgunners]

that's what we have found, some seem to have good luck with them but not us 🙄

[@CharleneRees-g8j]

Still the same 😂😂