Subaru CVT Problems EXPOSED: Everything You Need To Know As A Subaru Owner!

[@jerryturner8126]

This is THE most informative video I've ever seen on the Subaru CVTs. Thank you!

[@vincentrobinette1507]

I think the solution is simple. Just equip the CVT with a spin-on oil filter and drain plug, similar to the engine. It should also be equipped with a dip stick, so the level can be checked, like the old school automatic transmissions. Make the transmission DIY serviceable. Just make sure the customer knows that they MUST use the EXACT specified fluid!

[@Zorbino88]

I've seen some CVT tear-downs and they look horrendously complicated, not something the average gear-head would want to tackle.

[@chrisshaffer2949]

They won't do that ,they want to force the customer to come to dealer for service

[@dm19609721]

that applies to all transmissions....2 things kill a transmission....heat and dirty fluid.....make the fluid change easier.

[@saucyspicy]

Just make sure the lube shop doesn’t get it mixed up with the engine oil filter and drain plug. It’s me I got it mixed up one time with an older Subaru automatic with a spin on filter😅😂 a mistake you make once and once only

[@hallkbrdz]

Just like the 4EAT and 5EAT. Still have a 5EAT outback with more than 200K with no issues. Just change the fluid and filter, which is easy.

[@UMinocha]

Getting my CVT flushed and filled in my 2023 Outback next week as I near 30K miles. Just paid it off and plan on keeping it forever. Still has the new car smell. Love your channel. Forgot to add, the 30K mile service replaces brake fluid at Subaru dealership. They check the front & rear differential fluids - had them replace the differential fluids.

[@swkohnle08]

Good discussion on the CVT. Up until 2016, every car I owned prior was a manual transmission. Just my preference. In 2016, I bought my first Subaru Outback with a CVT. My first ever Subaru. Bought it new and disregarded the US "lifetime" fluid and had the CVT drained and filled at regular intervals. At 120K miles, traded the 2016 in for a 2019 Subaru Outback and same maintenance routine and then traded in after 115K for a new 2023 Outback. My 2023 is coming up on its first CVT drain and fill. For me, maintenance is important since I cannot afford a breakdown. I drive from Maine to FL and all over the eastern half of the US for my job and my Outback takes me everywhere. Having been a VW/Audi owner for many years, I can say that Subaru maintenance is less expensive by far than the German manufacturer.

[@davidanderson8469]

I have 270K on my 2005 Honda Pilot. Fluid change every 30K. Shifts like new and the Honda uses a real auto.

[@jcrnda]

@@davidanderson8469 Honda Pilot mileage is what, 19 mpg average?

[@borgward9569]

@@davidanderson8469 Most Hondas use CVTs.

[@mikeolson7557]

@@borgward9569Not the Pilot or Ridgeline

[@davidanderson8469]

I passed on a Subaru and the Honda CRV for a 9 speed traditional auto on the Honda Passport. My 2005 Pilot has 273K on it's auto with 30K trans service. The Honda is a more solid vehicle in addition. The enormous Eyesight blob on the windshield is another blindspot.

[@Arnoux007]

Approaching 330,000 miles on the 2015 Subaru Forester by the end of the week I will be doing my CVT and differential service that I do every 30,000 miles. my value body has gone out twice once at 160,000& 295,000 miles , my head gasket blown at 221,000 miles. I bought this car brand new 2015. I’ve oil changed every 6000 miles.

[@vegasstang1]

Impressive! We bought a new 24 Forester 6 months ago and plan to keep it for awhile. Nice to see these can survive with this kind of use!

[@dreamrelaxation7239]

@@vegasstang1 You didn't read his comment. His head gasket blew at 221K miles. His valve body (that's usually the underside of the transmission) burned out at 160K and 295K miles. You might want to get rid of that Forester and just get a Toyota, or at least keep up with the trans fluid change every 40K miles, and don't race it. Don't be a road rager and your Forester will last.

[@DanielFrein-n5r]

@@dreamrelaxation7239LOL - best satire post of the day. Ask the newer Tundra owners how that’s working out.

[@TheLpjoe]

@@dreamrelaxation7239 The tr690 has the valve body on the bottom of the trans. the car mentioned , being a 2015 should have the tr590 which has the valve body on top of the transmission.

[@oppenheimersbong9863]

@@dreamrelaxation7239 how is that bad? $800 part every 150k miles to keep a transmission running? And a $100 gasket kit? Guy is putting ~35k miles a year on that forester, most won’t do that in 4 years.

[@seanhoward8025]

Robert is dead nuts on. The fluid carries the contaminants of the metal chain. When I had my solenoids go "bad", the little screens were covered with metal particulates. Could I have cleaned the screens and reinstalled them? Yes, probably, but I decided to replace the solenoids with a high quality aftermarket part, at about $200+ for all three. He is right, fluid is expensive and it took me a whole weekend to do. Removed the valve body after work on Friday, cleaned and replaced solenoids and the valve body, including placing the RTV on the pan on Saturday...then allowing the RTV to cure overnight before pumping in the new fluid and reprogramming the CVT on Sunday. Never had any problems in the 18 months I had the car...prior to some 20-something a-hole in a BMW hydroplaning and spinning me into a Jersey barrier on the freeway, totaling my Outback. Follow Robert's recommendation and drain and refill your fluid every 36-50k miles. If Subaru in Japan recommends it, why not everywhere? Because SoA wants to sell more new Subarus.

[@cocoyc495]

Umm. If my Subaru CVT fails early, I'm not buying another Subaru.

[@DanielFrein-n5r]

@@cocoyc495Um, If you don’t maintain it, it’s on you.

[@eoak134]

@@DanielFrein-n5ryes but the SOA and the dealer networks are not telling owners to change the fluid. The manual states only inspections or to change it at 24000 miles if towing. I’m not a believer in a lifetime fluid but it’s on SOA to make it very obvious what the maintenance schedule. If you look online, you will find tons of different opinions on when to change it. Honda states 30k change for their CVTs. Pretty simple, not sure why SOA can’t do the same.

[@jamesbarca7229]

I wasn't aware that there were high quality aftermarket solenoids available. Certainly, some are more expensive than others but the reviews for the more expensive ones (the Dorman ones for example) weren't any better than the reviews for the cheap ones. My guess is they all come off of the same Chinese assembly line and whether or not they last is simply luck of the draw. If there are actual high-quality ones available I'm all ears, just in case the cheap one I installed goes bad.

[@dw8555]

"Because SoA wants to sell more new Subarus." This is typical short-sighted American Corporate Thinking - "I need to make things LOOK better NOW at the expense of having better sales in the long-term, when I'm not in this position. I'm not loyal to Subaru of America, I'm loyal to myself, only." Subaru will sell more cars in the future as they develop the kind of reputation that Toyota and Honda have developed - meaning that knowing when you buy one new that there will be an extremely strong market for your used one when you want to move on. People know that the odds are that if they buy a factory schedule maintained used Honda or Toyota it is very likely that they will not encounter big expenses during their period of ownership. If a Subaru owner follows SoA's current recommended maintenance schedule it will yield a used Subaru that has a very high chance of needing an extremely expensive CVT replacement soon after 100k miles or so. Who would want to buy something like that?

[@spankyownz]

2015 Forester I have went 191,000 miles and I had my CVT chain snap one day on my way to work. Subaru dealership wanted 14,000 USD to replace the unit which I thought was absolutely insane when the car off the showroom was 23,000 USD. I ended up finding a garage locally that surprisingly rebuilt CVTs and they were going to rebuild mine, but the chain actually caused a lot of damage to the housing and gears when it gave. It was 8,000 USD for one of their rebuilt transmissions I had no other option other than to do so, and I'm 1k in on the rebuilt transmission and so far so good.

[@emiliog.4432]

Did you ever change your cvt fluid? IDT chain snap is very common. $8k is a lot. Did the shop use oem parts? Ty

[@spankyownz]

@@emiliog.4432 I did not change the CVT fluid as I was told when I bought it was a sealed unit. at 170k miles the transmission felt a bit weird and I tried to get the dealership to change it as at the time it was the only shop locally that would work on Subarus. They said they would not do it. When the transmission chain snapped they replaced the whole unit with a refurbished transmission from a company 4 hours east of where I live. The transmission itself was 5K USD and the rest was in Labor and shop materials. They used Subaru transmission fluid that was 200USD a unit.

[@MattExzy]

$14k... wow, what was it made from, unicorns!? I don't think people can really blame fluid changes - give me a break. It's just a poor design, not just Subarus, but CVTs in general.

[@spankyownz]

@@MattExzy Like I said, mine made it 190k miles on the 2015 fluid, so I think the design is fine, I just think it's shady and feels like Subaru USA trying to get people into new cars when their transmission gives up the ghost when it costs nearly half of a new subaru.

[@HourRomanticist]

Change transmission fluid every 25k miles.​@@spankyownz

[@Notdave29]

Friend of mine had to rebuild his CVT himself because no shop in the area would touch it. He had never done any transmission work before but it worked and is still running.

[@billyounger9713]

Your friend is talented!!😊

[@natefunk1]

@@billyounger9713 Yes. And the shops that wouldn't touch it are stupid. They are actually much easier to repair than a traditional transmission.

[@TheGuruStud]

​@@natefunk1😂😂😂. Open up a jatco CVT and say that

[@natefunk1]

@@TheGuruStud Well you got me on that one. I'll rephrase it to "should be easier".

[@mhadman427]

This is as excellent as an informative video can get. I took home my 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness three weeks ago and the CVT behavior doesn't bother me a bit. I drive conservatively, and don't abuse my vehicles. I will definitely be using the 36k miles to change the fluid. I only wish that Subaru would bring back a manual transmission for the Crosstrek. I have always preferred the manual transmission.

[@SolamenteVees]

I've been selling Subarus for eight years; when I'm delivery a new Subaru I always recommend replacing the CVT fluid at regular intervals. I've taken too many trades out of service, most of them with valve body failures... Thank you for the accurate, concise info.

[@aleksandartasic7652]

Quote the manual, what do you mean “regular” because manual says nothing about it. Where did you come up with regular. 2014, 2018 Crosstrek and Outback mention none.

[@rudedog302]

@@aleksandartasic7652 Did you watch the video, MrSubaru brings the intervals up more than once. The manual will tell you nothing about US Subaru's.

[@Zorbino88]

This is why I paid for the 3 year dealer maintenance plan. I knew I could do oil changes by myself, but I bought the first year redesigned WRX Limited 6 speed (2022) which is always a risky move. But at least with 3 years of the dealer changing fluids and whatnot, I had a paper trail if something went catastrophically wrong.

[@davidm8657]

@@rudedog302 As a Subaru owner, it is ridiculous to bad information from the company and get the proper maintenance info for a KZbin content provider. I’m glad I stumbled upon this video, but that is not right.

[@7894-q4g]

@@davidm8657"lifetime fluid" is a thing with many manufacturers in the US; same with Volvo, BMW, VW, Mazda...

[@mingyaowu7720]

Agreed on your points. As a subaru technician in an asian contry. These are only problems that i personally encountered on the CVT. I always advised customers to at least replace the cvt oil at least every 50,000km to prevent expensive repairs and replacement. I even advised them get a manual sti or manual wrx if you want more power and for goodness sake. Any subaru cvt owners out there. Please do not treat your subaru cvt vehicle as a race car. Please treat it as a normal transportation car.😊

[@jstephens2758]

Unfortunately, manual transmissions are hard to find in the US now. Only the BRZ and WRX offer them because Americans just don't buy them.

[@M9A1MAN]

I just bought my first Subaru, a 2024 Forester. How reliable are these in your experience?

[@hendrixandmitch]

@@M9A1MAN engine is sweet just change the oil every 5000 miles not 6000 and change out that CVT fluid and diff every 30k. this is my 2nd subaru and you have to baby it just a little.

[@KLott-sy1iw]

@@M9A1MAN, 2022 Forester with 18k, so far no issues. Will be taking the advice on changing the CVT fluid at 30k if not sooner.

[@enderme7621]

2009 Liberty (Legacy) here that's done 300000km without a flush and no noticeable issues. I thought it had CVT slap for the past 8 years but may actually be collapsing motor mounts. It's getting a flush done next week.

[@jamesbarca7229]

I changed the fluid in my TR690 using Idemitsu fluid. Idemitsu makes Subaru's fluid. Same color, same smell, same fluid, but at half the price. It makes the cost of changing CVT fluid a whole lot easier to swallow, while still having the peace of mind of using the OEM fluid.

[@dyu18]

Thanks for this info @jamesbarca7229.I live in Australia and I wanted to change my transmission fluid in my Suabaru Outback, however our Subaru dealership would not sell transmission fluid to the public which I find it very strange. Subaru claims it is a "lifetime fluid" so it never needs changing

[@alphaomega750]

Subaru sucks, they won't sell by 1 quart of TR690 fluid, they will only sell 5 gallons @ over $500. Who the hell needs 5 gallons!

[@blder56]

Where can a person find the info about who makes Subaru CVT fluid. It sounds too good to be true, but on the other side I guess we're paying for the Subaru label, so..

[@jonpye8655]

@@jamesbarca7229 Do you have a Subaru Ascent with the tr690?

[@rdeanmurray8139]

Thanks James, good tip.

[@KrisDeBruineStudio]

I have a 2015 Subaru Forester with a CVT. This is a great video, I'm learning alot.

[@grizz6370]

5th Subaru since '80's, bought new '18 Forester, first one with CVT, 114k replaced module,90 miles later replaced torque converter, currently 129k,runs great,no oil consumption yet 🤞🤞🤞 Little pricey at 160 bucks an hour labor rate at Suby garage

[@Cabuco2006]

I've changed my CVT fluid 4 times in its 219k. Runs great! 2017 Impreza

[@yummytummy88]

So you change the transmission oil every 50K miles, proactive maintenance. Nice

[@OutsideCleaners]

LOL 17:38 regarding CVT fluid.... "If you treat it as a "lifetime fluid," it will absolutely BE a lifetime fluid..." Good video, thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@jayknight850]

Our 18 Forester 85,000 mile CVT was getting to where it had a intermittent “wobble” at about 15-20 mph. It would seem to hesitate in a ratio change. I changed the CVT oil, the problem disappeared, totally resolved any problems we were experiencing. Change the oil!

[@Code-Panda]

I believe I had a similar "wobble" issue with 2015 Outback at 105,000 miles. Drained (about 4 quarts) and refilled CVT fluid yesterday and it "shifts" much smoother now. Going to do one more drain and refill in a week.

[@anvilhead59]

I love CVTs. My '23 Outback is my first Subaru. We had a CVT in our' 05 Ford Freestyle. While climbing hills at highway speeds, no shifting. Just smooth driving. The only other vehicle I had that could do that was a '00 Ford Superduty Powerstroke with manual transmission. I'll take the advice and replace the fluid soon. I just had my 36k service completed.

[@volks-jager]

i recenty changed a TCC solenoid on TR580 for a lady. Subie dealer quoted her $3000 to replace the valve body. no way she could afford that - so i changed just the solenoid (i used a dorman one becuase nothing better was available). a $50 solenoid and an hour or so of labor and the car runs great no check engine light. Castrol and Valvoline now have Subaru spec CVT fluid for very cheap - $25 a gallon - so no need to get hosed at the dealer for fluid anymore

[@wim0104]

$25 a gallon is still expensive for gear oil.

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Great information!!!!!

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

​@@wim0104 how much is the fluid from Subaru? 🤔

[@KevinBlem]

@@dans_Learning_Curveabout $17/quart

[@rayro481]

$25 a gallon is a deal compared to $22 a quart or $88 a gallon from subaru

[@ghostwolf4354]

I am perfectly happy with the way my 2024 Outback performs. I knew I wasn't buying a sports car, so I don't expect sports car things. What I do expect - safety, reliability, decent mileage, comfort, carrying capacity, overall satisfaction - the car delivers beyond my expectations. Love this car! And now I know to look into changing the CVT fluid, and not to be worried excessively about the CVT for many more miles.

[@73ac39]

I had a 2011 Legacy. Both CVT failures you mentioned it had. Wasn't very enjoyable to drive either. Now I have a 22 crosstrek sport and the CVT is much better. I'm going to get it serviced soon to be safe. Thanks for video.

[@donaldgeorge6656]

You are right. I have a 2017 and my CVT was served at 14,000 mi never a problem. Will service it again at 30000 mi. Dealership recommended

[@kurzabel]

Never a problem on your under 30,000 mile transmission? I would hope not.

[@Central-Scrutinizer]

What would make me comfortable? A $3500 transmission replacement. It's the massive potential costs involved, not so much the CVT per se. IMO a $10K bill at 165,000 - 200,000 miles would mean junking the car even if everything else appeared OK.

[@cannabisanomaly]

Mr. Subaru coming in clutch, as always (pun intended). I’m really glad you made this updated video on the CVT; I was still under the assumption the minimum fluid change on the CVT was 100k, as anything before that would be unnecessary. Update vids like this are incredible, please continue with them

[@richroj]

thank you again Mr. Subaru, your videos are the best. I had a CVT service done at 40,000 miles on my 2015 FXT Touring and now I have 57000 miles. no problems at all. my wife has the 2003 FXS Premium with 98000 miles and no problems also 💯👍

[@hendrixandmitch]

good job sir. i have a 2023 subaru legacy with 21k on it and that fluid is getting changed out next month. i’m not taking any chances.

[@williamevans6522]

I hope you're changing i the diff fluids, too, at 30000 mi OCI.

[@tomfilipiak3511]

Thank,you,sir,on my 4 th outback since 2006, at 76 years old,you are the Cats Meow,not to be associated with a cat lady!God Bless you!Thomas A.Filipiak Palos Hills Illinois!

[@jeffer1101]

FWIW, Subaru Canada recommends to replace the transmission and differential fluids every 5 years/100,000 kms (about 63,000 miles).

[@williamevans6522]

😮Way too many miles . Try 30000 mi

[@Wanderer_52]

I agree ​@@williamevans6522

[@christianlaroche8268]

I am in Canada too, and changed the transmission and differential fluids after 5 years and 50 000 kms in a 2017 Forester.

[@cop2506]

YESSSS FINALLY! THANK YOU FOR FINALLY ADDRESSING THE ANNOYING "CVT TRANSMISSION".

[@carnaubawax9405]

I hope your area in NC is doing ok re: flooding. Godspeed Mr. Subaru.

[@Snowcrash1966]

Outstanding video! I also own 2014 Forester so happy to hear about your Mom”s Forester. I changed the cvy fluid late at 90K because back then I was told the lifetime fluid lie and around me here in Massachusetts most dealers were afraid to do it. I found an independent mechanic pro like yourself and did it. I got the fluid at a Subaru dealer. Drive 90% highway and drive 60-65 mph. I am now at 143K and thinking about doing it again.

[@romankartsev220]

I got same problem in NYC Subaru service is refusing to do the cvt drain and fill.

[@jamesgullo8240]

About 7 quarts of the total capacity come out of the drain plug. Changing half the fluid at a time is fine. At 50K and every 75K thereafter. The next biggest thing to help it last a long time... no heavy foot off the line. Take off easy from a stop light. Accelerate gently for the first 50 feet. This is NOT a Turbo 400!

[@LeeBatzel]

Thanks allot I have158000 miles on a used Forester I just bought I will change the fluid now!😊

[@StealthParrot]

Great explanation of CVT's and their common failure modes. Thank you.

[@robalexander7348]

Thank You Robert, a very interesting topic, i have now owned Five new WRX since 2005, two manual, and my last three CVT, i like the CVT Auto very smooth and efficient, my new 2024 Wrx CVt is very nice to drive while travelling over our vast distances in Australia. I have never had a issue with my last three WRX CVT transmissions. 👍 Au

[@romankartsev220]

I also got 2022 wrx cvt and i drive 9 hours non stop on the highway and its my daily also and its not as fun as manual but its definitely more convenient and relaxing than shifting gears all the time, plus shifting gears and pressing the clutch in heavy traffic will wear out your left knee and eventually it will need surgery.....

[@billyounger9713]

So you average 4 years per car, I'd say try another brand! Do you know what the definition of insanity is?? Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦😊

[@himay333]

​@@billyounger9713why do you assume he's swapping out cars because of failure? He might have a milage he gets new cars after. Personal, I'll keep a car for a good 10 years, but not everyone has that philosophy.

[@btrew2u]

Yes, such an informative, teaching video. I think I actually understand how cvt’s work😮! Thankyou. Makes me feel much better as I like so much about this make of car - especially having grown up in classic Canadian winters and also enjoying living closer to nature vs urban settings. Can’t ignore this AWD system.👏🙏

[@MrPoppyDuck]

Thank you Mr Subaru for the info on your Subies as that gives me confidence in my '15 Outback with its TR580 provided I change the CVT fluid regularly. I do not beat on it or tow anything with it as I want to run it for another 9 years or more.

[@overheadsurf]

I love that you pointed out the fact that saying CVT transmission is redundant. I was at the dealer the other day and the service manager was asking for my VIN number. 😂 I didn’t correct him but sure wanted to!

[@mattheviewer]

Perhaps, though unlikely, Subaru would add a transmission setting that either lets it do fake shifts, or not. That way those want maximum efficiency can get it, and those wanting traditional shifting can also get it.

[@DustinDIY]

My main pet peeve is fake shifts while full auto normal driving

[@sk8xaq]

I just use the paddles when I'm driving inclines or overtaking.

[@ralkros681]

It would be nice to have a more "linear but smoother" drive. In an auto, let alone cvt, I could care less about the feeling of gears shifting. Only ever liked that on motorcycles.

[@Traumatree]

I'd love to have that option too so I can enjoy a smooth linear acceleration!

[@alphaomega750]

that's cause your CVT isn't the Tr690 with the chirping sound. It gets annoying, subaru claims is it normal. I'm sure not by design.

[@WailuaMark]

Great information and video! Thanks!! I currently have a 2021 Crosstrek Limited with the 2.5 L engine. The odometer is just shy of turning over to 40k. No issues with the engine or the CVT and I’m very satisfied with the reliability. BUT, about three months ago I’ve been noticing a moaning noise (for the lack of a better term) coming from beneath the car when starting from a complete stop - like idling at red light to green. Vehicle is fully warmed up. The noise is rare, not consistent. I think that I’ve heard it about 6 times over the past three months. Before seeing this video, I was planing to have the CVT serviced during the next regular car service performed at Subaru. I’m an apartment dweller so all maintenance is done at the dealership. I’m an easy driver on my Crosstrek and never allow the inner-chimpanzee out and dictate my driving behavior unlike most who do on our roadways, nowadays. 😂 No jackrabbit starts. I allow to auto engine stop/start to do it’s thing before accelerating. I love my Subaru and want it to last for a long time. Any thoughts on the moaning noise? I’m certain that it’s coming from beneath the car. Heck, maybe it’s coming from the engine. I always drive with my windows up. My Crosstrek drives and performs like it did when I drove it off the dealership’s lot in March of 2021. Thanks!! All the best!!

[@Uzbal]

Always an absolute pleasure listening to your videos. I had the CVT replaced on my 14 Outback due to chain slip. To be fair, I’ve owned my Subaru for a long time in the most extreme climates (Alaska, Death Valley). With that I can say I will never own another vehicle brand.

[@billyounger9713]

If you owned a Toyota you wouldn't have a huge repair bill at 10 years old!! 😉

[@Uzbal]

@@billyounger9713 Thanks. If I wanted to talk about the reliability of a Toyota vehicle, I would have done it on a different video where the topic was concerning Toyotas.

[@davidblair3371]

Thanks to your videos I switched from being a Toyota owner to a Subaru. Bought a 2025 Subaru Outback premium.

[@gary56]

I have had two Subaru’s. 2014 Outback and a 2016 Legacy and both were great cars with no problems. The CVT was no issue for me and I would get another. I now have a 2020 Mazda CX5 which is a great car also. I can definitely tell the difference between a CVT and a conventional transmission but it doesn’t matter to me.

[@iczemi]

Haha, same here. I had an Outback 2014 which I gave to my daughter 4 years ago, and got a cx5 2020. Unfortunately the subaru broke down ( I think it was the transmission, engine starts, but car won't move).

[@KellyEnterprises]

We've owned 5 Tr690 cars from 2015 to 2019, 3 WRXs and 2 3.6Rs, and never had a single issue with any of them. My 3.6R is tuned and had seen multiple track days. I've added the OEM CVT cooler from the outback which helped with track temps and we did have the dealership flush it at 50k miles. Not just a drain and fill but a flush. That cost about $700 with the labor included... But it's far better than 8500 for a new one. I plan to keep this for a long time and w the tune the throttle response is much better and the fake shifting is much less obnoxious. What i will say is that the factory tuning on the 3.6Rs it's much better than the WRXs. The CVT doesn't flatter the turbo 4 as well as the NA 6. That said, if your family doesn't want to daily drive a stick the WRX can still be great even w a CVT.

[@kanzzon]

Dealers should have this video on repeat at the moment of having customers signing for their new subaru.

[@brucekatkin5310]

Subaru Canada recommends CVT fluid change every 100,000 kilometres (60,000 miles), or sooner depending on how it is driven. I am glad Canadian Subarus (except I believe the wilderness version) are built in Japan.

[@wanted-33]

Very timely video sir, thanks. I have a very special young lady in my life that I'm going to help buy her first car. She has picked a CrossTrek. I knew for a while about Subaru's CVT's, and that the life of a CVT is keeping the fluid fresh. Now I know 3 year, or 36K miles is what is best for the Subaru CVT.

[@RESPAWN1983]

Well let me be the first to say im at 194k miles on my 2018 crosstrek and have yet to change the tranny fluid and its still running like a beast! Have changed my front and rear diff once around 150k all oil changes around 5 to 6 k.

[@dreamrelaxation7239]

That's because you are not racing it. People that ruin their transmissions are road ragers that have a need to race their cars or trucks that are not meant for that. I have a Nissan Sentra and I hadn't changed the trans fluid in over 100K miles. When I changed it, it was still red. No brown or black. Of course, I don't race my little Sentra. I was not designed for that.

[@gjforeman]

Our 2013 Sentra's owners manual said the CVT fluid was good forever. When the CVT died at 65000 miles, the service writeup guy said, "Now, you are getting the CVT serviced every 30,000 miles, right?" Seems they changed their tune but failed to let anyone know. At over $4500, the new CVT would have been more than the Bluebook value. Fortunately, we had a 70,000 mile extended warranty, so it only cost me a $100 fee. 25,000 miles later, the rebuilt CVT started to act up. I paid to get it serviced again, with new fluid, and it seems OK. For now. But it is a shit CVT at best, and I will never buy another Nissan. Thats why I'm ​on a Subaru site. Love out new Ascent. @dreamrelaxation7239

[@jacobsantiago5693]

Don't change it now. I will start slipping once you do.

[@RESPAWN1983]

You think it will slip? Whats your thought process on this? I was gonna actually have my mechanic change the tranny fluid as a happy Birthday crosstrek you made it 200k 🎉😂

[@jameslewellen2715]

Thank You Mr. Subaru. I love my 2016 legacy, and my 2018 crosstrek. They're fun cars for the price range. No problems for the last six to seven years.

[@MonkellD]

I rallycross mine and daily abuse it on the street! It should be advertised at least in my case, you can beat on it as long as you change the fluid and have fun and love it!

[@thierry3953]

2017 Subaru Forester 135,000 with a loud whining sound coming from inside the transmission similar to a bad bearing and now all warning lights are on from abs to transmission to system control. No one on the island wants to look at it including the dealer which only confirmed the issue and offered a straight trans swap for a price tag of $13,000! What a bunch of crooks. I learned my lesson and will never keep a cvt trans car beyond its warranty. And yes I made the mistake of listening to the dealer lifetime fluid guidelines. Now looking to buy another car and as a last move do a transmission oil flush to get the Subaru in shape enough to resale or sell for parts.

[@dw8555]

The lesson should be to follow the 3yr/36k mi trans service routine. Also, with a CVT, any CVT, aggressive driving is not a successful strategy. If a person cannot be more gentle in his/her driving habits, buy a vehicle with a conventional automatic transmission.

[@execration_texts]

​@dw8555 Aggressive driving is fine. It's shock loading that breaks stuff. Drive it hard if you want to, but ease into it, don't stomp on and off the accelerator.

[@jerryq1000]

I will change the CVT fluid on my 2018 Outback at 60,000. I had always changed transmission fluid on conventional transmissions at 60K and never had issues.

[@dust_gale3108]

Well some transmissions just do weird stuff regardless and still go 250k miles. But keeping up with maintenance is a good thing

[@ericpizarro3084]

I think it all have to do with your roads driving conditions. If you don’t get into heavy traffic with lots of stop and go, the transmission will suffer less. Where we live my wife drives every week into high mountains (above 2000 feet’s high on her 2019 Subaru Ascent) we changed to transmission oil at 40,000 miles. It’s close to 70,00 miles and we are planning to change the transmission oil again on the next service schedule. So far with over 6 years of service so good. The only replacement parts have been two wheels hub and one disc. I don’t blame it to the vehicle. I blame it to the roads conditions.

[@oppenheimersbong9863]

Great info, I’ve been doing lots of valve body replacements, the Chinese solenoids are total crap, there are a few companies rebuilding the valve body and solenoids that I’ve had very good luck with, half the cost and I’ve had people who have put 50k miles on them so far with no issues. Considering the dealership quotes 2k for the replacement people are thrilled with the $1k repair, and I’m paying $400 for the rebuilds and can do a 580 in an hour at this point. I’d like to add every failure I’ve seen has been heat related, the solenoids always fail with dirty fluid that gets too hot, always after a long trip or mountain run. Do not engine brake with a CVT down a mountain please, and do a CVT flush before a cross country road trip!

[@foghelmut]

does having a transmission cooler help with this at all?

[@blder56]

Thanks for the advise on using the CVT. I will no longer be downshifting my 690. I've changed the fluid so it's a good time to implement the knowledge I've learned here.

[@oppenheimersbong9863]

@@foghelmut I have considered adding one to my xv, certainly couldn’t hurt.

[@josephkelleher8820]

In the 13th year driving my 12' Altima with the ORIGINAL CVT and never a problem. I have the CVT fluid changed every 25,000 miles or 2 years whichever occurs first.

[@roccol3110]

The key to reliability of a CVT in a Nissan is the fluid changes for sure

[@peterlattimore6013]

​@@roccol3110 JATCO are notorious for belt wear causing issues which then make the fillings destroy the valve body.

[@judahnanas9772]

I had V6 coupe Altima same 2012 and sold it a 206k km and had NO problem with it! And NO FAKE SHIFT! They way it's supposed to be!

[@roccol3110]

@judahnanas9772 those V6's were so cool especially the Coupe!

[@michaelxcx]

Yet my cubaru crosstrek has 270,000km and I never changed the cvt fluid. Still run just fine. You bought the wrong car bro haha

[@AlainDeroulette-c2t]

I got a used 2019 Subaru forester and can report that the gas mileage is so good . I get around 350 miles with a full tank . In the past, I drove a manual transmission, and if the wind was right, I could get at best 275 miles on a full gas tank . I love my Subaru ! Thank you for your very helpful video . Cheers !

[@Andy-uh6fs]

I got a 2016 subaru outback just hit 260k. I never change my cvt fluid once at all, because it said lifetime lol. Transmission still runs and shifts smooth like a champ. Still original engine and it never had an issue once. Just basic service for the last 8 years. Im going to run it until either the engine or trans. 300k here we come by next year

[@martinr8278]

That is phenomenal!! They are amazing vehicles and hold their own……🏆❤️💯

[@johnnn.darrelll2746]

Hi i recently i bought a 2015 Subaru 3.6r outback with 125 k miles . I think it has rhe tr690 cvt. Can this motor and cvt reach 250k miles if i do drain and fill on cvt evey 30k miles or less? Thanks for your response

[@KuyaPow626]

This is an excellent summary with all the information in one place, thank you! One thing I wanted to ask for a DIYer perspective is can we do a drain & fill on our own without the scan tool? I know the scan tool provides the accurate temperature of the transmission

[@zachh6951]

Owner of a 2020 Outback Limited, that i bought used. Subaru's warranty and maintenance booklet (page 28, in my case) states to inspect the CVT's fluid every 30-36 months or 30k-36k miles, whichever comes first. This is my first ever vehicle with the CVT. I'll gladly pay a couple of hundred dollars for a drain and fill of the CVT fluid every so often since its my only car and I would not want to be stuck without a car when that CVT fails me out of thousands.

[@jamesburgess9101]

Super curious, what does "inspect" mean? Did they give specfics like "if it tastes like smoked bacon then replace"? or just say "inspect"

[@zachh6951]

Good question. The warranty and maintenance booklet only says inspect and if needed, replace the CVT fluid at the aforementioned intervals. My guess would be that they (likely the dealership) would just inspect for leaks and if nothings leaking or of major issue, they'd probably say that I'm good and i can keep driving it, according to my research from subaru forum posts and reddit posts regarding the CVTs in Subaru vehicles. The owners manual also states that there is no need to check the fluid, but the fluid is only good for so long.

[@lorenzopizarro6985]

Mr. Subaru - great video on the subaru cvt. I have the subaru extended gold plus warranty plan for 8 years/120k miles with a deductible of $100 on my 2019 Forrester. The transmission is a covered part, so I assume the solenoid/valve part that may fail due to "lifetime cvt fluid" guidance would be covered in my warranty. So in principle, I agree a $300+ maintenance to mitigate a high dollar cvt repair is a good decision, but in my case the part is covered. I do intend on selling/trading the car before or when the warranty is up, I have about 35k miles to go. To your point, I don't abuse the cvt with a heavy accelerator foot. Keep up the good work...🤛

[@hendrahendra]

Yes, BMW also has 'lifetime' transmission fluid. But their version of lifetime is 5 years / 60k miles which is when the warranty runs out😂

[@Ristogod]

Had a 2019 Subaru Ascent. The CVT failed @ 40K miles, under warranty. There was a recall in the works, but when mine failed, they had no solution. This happened on our vacation driving from MN to CO and had to abandon our vehicle in Lincoln NE. The dealer there happened to have an extra CVT and fully replaced it. We rented a transport van for the rest of the trip and picked up the Ascent on our way back through. It was very inconvenient. A year later @ 47K miles the new transmission started having problems. Again we ended up discovering this on another vacation. Had to stop at a dealer in Rapid City SD for them to fix it. On our return trip back to MN, the transmission would start to have issues again after about 30 minutes of driving. At 80mph on the interstate, anytime we encountered a hill, while using cruise control, the CVT couldn't change range and was stuck in positions too high. The vehicle couldn't keep speed in that situation. Shortly after I sold it to avoid further issues, despite having planned to own it for 10 years. I'll never buy another CVT transmission from Subaru or another. This guy can go on all he wants about how they aren't "that bad", but he's full of shit. From this point on it's only real automatics or manual transmissions.

[@sigmazerofive]

I actually really like the whole CVT concept. Much more than auto transmissions, but not more than a manual transmission. I hate the fake shifts and wish there was a way to get rid of it. Is there anyone that can program out the fake shifts and make the CVT more efficient?

[@Ohmygodbruh]

Driving 2019 outback, I love this transition is so freaking smooth…

[@stewartayvaliotis4848]

Disagree on CVT assessment. Toyota makes a CVT with the First gear is a starter gear then after switches to CVT. It allows the majority of high torque to be borne by that starter gear.

[@mistertitus6814]

The hybrid eCVT is the absolute best version of CVT in existence

[@romankartsev220]

yes toyota is smart. I am surprised Subaru does not use toyotas cvt since toyota owns 22% of Subaru....

[@GraemeHarrisonAU]

⁠the ‘absolute best’ CVT is Tesla semi - two drive axles each on fixed-gear electric induction motors. One is high-torque low-speed for starting and on hills. Second axle is low-torque at highway speeds. So, with just accelerator depressed and no gear-stick, semi’s computer slowly adjusts power from one electric motor to the higher speed one, smooth all the way. Watch Jay Leno drive it on his channel. So the 50k semi drivers in USA alone, with average age in 50s, can be replaced by youngsters who will never learn how to shuffle thru 18 gears!

[@dw8555]

Great job taking on a very difficult subject. If anyone from Subaru of America is watching, I hope what they took away from this video is that they really should figure out a way to go back to 3yr/36k mile CVT fluid change intervals. Subaru of America is screwing themselves and their dealers with their expediency to "appear" to have a lifetime fluid in their transmissions. If they want to sell more cars in the long-term, they should opt for recommending maintenance that will cause their cars to last longer without major expenses for second-hand owners .

[@lpmorify]

I have a 2024 Crosstrek Sport. This is my 1st Subaru and it has a cvt. My previous vehicle was a 2019 Chevy Colorado w/ 3.6l automatic. I really like the ride, and the fuel economy. I feel no hate towards the cvt.

[@TimIrwin26]

Great Video, we have a 2010 Outback with 130k miles on it and (knock on wood) the original torque converter. Replaced CVT fluid at 60K and 110k, got the Subaru service bulletin reprogramming in at 98k. I have no complaints about it. I actually prefer it over the 6AT in our Mazda3 (slow to downshift, upshifts way to early for fuel econ). While I love the 5 spd manual in my Miata, I'll take the CVT for commuting any day.

[@Pappa_Gray_Bush]

I have a 23 Forester Wilderness, and I almost can't even tell its a cvt. It mimics shifting well, and all we do is drive the car as a normal car. I bet some people wouldn't even tell the difference if you didn't tell them.

[@KM-es4yx]

21 forester. I agree, especially when you put the pedal down alittle

[@beardedwonder3524]

Had a 22 FW and just got a 24 FW, I like this trim the best and I feel this setup drives great. Maybe the difference in gearing aids to that, idk but I love my subies.

[@johnriggs-d5v]

Thanks for this video! Wife has a 2022 Ascent. As it’s been a good car so far, I need to look into this CVT sorcery further. I have a 2006 Baja, standard trans and I’ll never sell it. It’s been SO dependable and worry-free.

[@benniewalker312]

2019 Subaru ascent owner. The 1st year model of the Ascent had a recall of the CVT. Brought my car in for the recall inspection. No issues. Reprogrammed the computer as part of the recommended fix. 2 years later, chain slip, 35,000 miles. Car would shudder. Subaru replaced the CVT under warranty. The bigger issue was the air conditioner system. Self destructed for some unknown reason. Car in the shop for 6 weeks waiting on back order parts. Still the best car ive owned but I gotta stay clear of those 1st year models until they work out the initial bugs.

[@familydad3241]

New transmission and air conditioner self destructed under 35k miles and best vehicle you ever owned. That speaks volumes.

[@benniewalker312]

@@familydad3241 traded in a Range Rover for my Ascent. If Subie ever builds a hybrid version I will buy it tomorrow. I’ll never buy another Range Rover though. That was a nightmare lol

[@familydad3241]

@benniewalker312 Subaru will be coming out with their hybrid in 2025.

[@bugguana]

Subaru knew about the torque converter issue, but if you went over 100k miles on your car, they charged you for the fix. I don't recall ever having been notified by Subaru with a TSB or any notification about this known issue. Then the valve body failed, thanks to your channel, was able to fix that myself

[@jdtexas2048]

2020 Outback - Transmission kept slipping- dealer said it was just a computer program update / had that done - it kept doing it - started at 60,000 - finally got them to say it was a bad Transmission at 90,000 almost out of warrenty car was 3 years old and finally got replaced - makes you wander if they were trying to get it over 100,000 so they didn’t have to replace it

[@Mormon140]

Great video. Bought a Subaru (2023 Ascent) for the first time in my life 14 months ago. I was somewhat worried about the CVT, now I feel much better about my choice.

[@judih.8754]

I like the fuel economy of the CVT. I had the one in my 2021 Outback fail due to "primary and secondary pulleys jumping erraticly indicating chain slippage." This was approximately at 25k miles. The main symptom was a shudder when I pulled away from a stop. It was replaced and I haven't had any issues. I was told this was an uncommon failure. I am still sold on the car and the transmission as its smooth and returns great fuel economy.

[@johnstrand2247]

I have had service managers at two different dealerships tell me that every CVT has that shudder and no way around it. My replacement CVT had a shudder even worse than my original.

[@adrianpoo1076]

Good morning, Mr Subaru I just went my local deal to change the oil on wife 2019 Outlook. When asked the service write about changing the CVT oil charged, he looked at me funny, like saying why. I'm sorry ,but I'm a person who believes in general maintenance,so thank you for clearing the question about changing or not changing the oil in the CVT.

[@ellinorglorioso2247]

I cannot trust the Subaru mechanics in Denver to touch the Subaru car at all. Not even to do an oil change. 2 dealerships in Denver, thus far ,have lied and deceived people in Denver and caused a great deal of distrust about the care of the Subaru cars.

[@RESPAWN1983]

Never trust them! In Bakersfield they messed up and drained out the tranny fluid on my forester XT by mistake changing my engine oil. And forgot an engine mount bolt 🤦

[@yeshualawson]

​@RESPAWN1983 how does someone even do that?

[@RESPAWN1983]

​@@yeshualawsonthats what I couldnt fig out now i have had some kind of leak fornlast 2 yrs that apparently noone can figure out what type of fluid it is. I just hope I can get another solid year from the fozzy.

[@Williamturflawn]

Just bought a Subaru in Aurora. Can you let me know the two denver dealerships to avoid, and which service place you would recommend?

[@devinhaney8109]

I love the concept for a daily commuter. I hope they make a CVT belt and "pullies" from graphene in the future. Would be WAY more durable.

[@Jeremy-k4q]

I have a 2015 Forester with 170k miles. Around 160k the CVT would act like it was slipping like a traditional transmission. However I never heard any chain slipping noises. Subaru said I needed a new CVT at 8500, then performed unauthorized work on it and cracked the case and claimed it was already cracked. Long story short I took it somewhere else and put a used CVT in it with a lifetime warranty. After watching this video I’m now wondering if I should have just replaced the valve body myself and never taken it to Subaru….

[@dadbod8112]

Love driving a Subaru CVT. Learned the hard way not to dog it. It was just too much fun. Won't do it again cuz it cost too much $. Excellent video, thanks.

[@bullnukeoldman3794]

The TR690 in my 2011 Outback has been bulletproof for 196k miles (the torque converter has been bad since 125k miles - we learned to adapt to it when driving and it has not been an issue since). I've drained/filled the fluid every 50k miles religiously; I began and continue to use Valvoline CVT Fluid because way back years ago the Subaru OEM fluid only came in 5 gallon buckets/barrels for crazy prices and not quart bottles (only need 5 or 6 quarts per change). I'm not changing brands now because what I'm doing works fine. For a reference point, I had replaced the transmission in our GMC Yukon three times before reaching 150k miles due to transmission failures - failures aren't a CVT problem for me at all. Driving our Outback CVT takes me down the old memory lane as it reminds me of the Buick Dynaflows of the '50s with no shifts during operation but the Subaru CVT has much better acceleration (on the Buicks you'd mash the accelerator, hear the engine rpms rise and wait 3 or 4 seconds for the car to start slowly rolling lethargically up to speed).

[@keithmccready3158]

They were called slush-O- automatics.

[@mattrowan5834]

How do you deal with the torque converter being bad? My 2010 Legacy has been lugging itself at stoplights when cold (but not stalling all the way) and I just during this video figured out why my 2 pedal car is acting like this. If it's possible to get away driving it like this for awhile I won't have to worry about getting that repair done or replacing the car right away. I'm right at 150k miles and don't drive a ton.

[@EchoesDaBear]

Great video!! Thanks. With ANYTHING mechanical, maintenance is absolutely key. Ignorance is certainly NOT bliss...it's costly! Totally correct - fluid maintenance is cheap in comparison to replacements. I'm still not a big fan of CVT's, as a mechanical engineer, there's still some hang-ups I have with a metal chain being driven by a smooth metal pulley - entirely relying on tension/friction to drive properly, but that's me - I'll come around someday - probably because I'll have to as most manufacturers employ some form of CVT transmission nowadays. I'm a Toyota guy - but haven't had to cross that bridge with their CVT yet. This is particularly useful as a close friend is looking at a 2017 Legacy sedan - and was asking my opinion as I used to have a 2002 Legacy GT (great car until the head gaskets went!). I will suggest this video to them! Cheers from Canada, eh!

[@jrisheim]

As another mechanical engineer, I completely agree. I just have a hard time buying into a metal chain transferring torque via a smooth pulley. Basically a friction between two smooth metal parts. Maybe it lasts for a while, but nothing like actual gears. I love Subarus. We had an older Forester with a manual 5 speed and it was unstoppable. Now looking for new car/truck and while I love the Subaru AWD system, I just can't stomach the CVT. If they only had a manual in the Forester or Outback Wilderness, I would be all over it. Damn....

[@midnight_yota]

Idk if Nissan will ever be able to answer for the harm they’ve done to the CVT reputation.

[@billycausgrove9657]

Best answer is to get rid of them.

[@DavidGarcia-md9hz]

Thank you for all this information. My wife and I are considering buying a new Subaru next year in the fall. But we’re going to the L.A. auto show on Thanksgiving week so she can she which one she likes the most. It’s basically for her. Thank you

[@eoak134]

Really frustrating that SOA and the dealer networks are not telling owners to change the fluid. The manual states only inspections or to change it at 24000 miles if towing. I’m not a believer in a lifetime fluid but it’s on SOA to make it very obvious what the maintenance schedule is. Too many different opinions on when to change it. Honda states 30k change for their CVTs. Pretty simple, not sure why SOA can’t do the same.

[@robertcochran7103]

Thank you very much for posting this excellent video. I'm very satisfied with the performance of my Forester's transmission. I do believe it is a great transmission and it is certainly the best performer I've known. Subaru is my first purchase of an excellent quality vehicle.

[@brookcampbell2940]

just did my 30K full service with CVT Flush/Fill on my 23 Forester Sport along with Brake Fluid Swap. Fresh Falken WildPeak AT Trails. Love the Vehicle!

[@minuteman048]

How much did it cost? I was quoted $1100.00 just for the transmission service on a 21 Forrester.

[@hendrixandmitch]

@@minuteman048 WTF?? RIP OFF! i live in indiana and the subaru dealer is charging me $300 bucks! go somewhere else

[@yummytummy88]

​@@minuteman048they are way over charging you for that small job. I just had my transmission oil change for my Honda Civic last year by a dealership service and it only $285. Took them 1 hours to do the job.

[@execration_texts]

​@@minuteman048 That might be a flush vs a drain and fill. The drain and fill is enough in 30k intervals.

[@timferguson593]

Drain and fill works. Suburu is a great car. We just bought our 3rd over the last 18 years. Never had a problem with any of them.

[@AbidingDuder]

Great video, Mr. Subaru! The first car I drove with a CVT was a Dodge Caliber, around 2007 or so. It was fantastically awful. It made me stay away from CVT transmissioned cars. Later, I had a 2017 Outback as a company car. I liked how it drove and the fuel efficiency was great for the size of the vehicle and AWD. I now own a 2025 Outback and am enjoying the transmission fairly well and trust in the build quality. I do wish they hadn't implemented the fake gear changes.

[@alsheremeta]

Seems to me that the 2 most common failures you described, torque converter and valve body, have nothing to do with the fact that it's a CVT..... Next time you need to pull a Subaru engine, can you set up a camera and record it from start to hanging from the engine hoist? I'd like to see this 35 minute procedure.

[@midnight_yota]

We just recently got a 2020 Subaru Outback last month and so far it’s been the smoothest drive of any car I’ve been in. Sure the naturally aspirated 4 cylinder is a bit low on torque but the CVT has responded much better and far rear than the 10 speed auto in my work van or work truck.

[@domturneryoutube]

In 2015, I drove a Nissan Versa for a rental. I said I’ll never drive a CVT vehicle again 😂 Fast forward to 2018, I test drove a Subaru and was like wow this CVT drives nice.

[@nathanj9350]

Anything Nissan makes is garbage, if you want a Nissan get a manual one.

[@execration_texts]

​@@nathanj9350it's a shame how much they've gone downhill.

[@tfaubus]

Wise man, appreciate your channel immensely. 😁 Loved my 2013 Outback 2.5i it was an awesome TR580 traded it for my 2022 Ascent which I love as well, but the fake shifts are the dumbest thing ever, wish I could turn those off.

[@lancertuner2008]

Can you do a tutorial on how to drain and fill the CVT? I have a 2018 50th anniversary Impreza that needs a fluid change

[@mrgarrison3516]

He has done it on his 2013 Crosstrek, but I would like to see it done on a 2018 Impreza/ Crosstrek (which have the same CVT/tr580) 👍

[@ralkros681]

He has a couple for the same transmission but on an older vehicle. But if you don't have a good scanner or don't trust yourself entirely, scower up $350 for the dealer or your shop to do it (250 for me). My scanner cannot read new cvt sensors I guess so that's the route I had to go, still worth it, the fluid is quite pricey too. Not too bad to ensure warranty is still in tact

[@Billhatestheinternet]

Hey, a fellow 50th owner.

[@frankwhiteiii613]

I have a 2020 OB Limited with 81000 miles on it. I did the CVT fluid change at the dealer at 60000 miles and plan on doing it again at 90000 miles. I change my own oil/filter at 5000 miles. I have had absolutely no issues with this car other than a few quirks with the infotainment system which was corrected with the software upgrades. It has been a very reliable car and I plan one day on buying another. I have the 2.5L non turbo version and it is not peppy; but a great point A to point B car.

[@evanlarson9427]

Had a solenoid fail in the valve pump assembly of my 2014 Subaru forester fail - came in just under the 10 year cutoff and it was covered under the warranty. They included a fluid change with the replacement. I think with my model, the 10 year warranty makes the CVT a good option. I would be nervous about getting one without 10 year coverage, but I guess Subaru offers it for a charge. I also didn’t know about the transmission fluid service issue and will be changing it again soon, about 30k miles after the failure.

[@keilmillerjr9701]

How many miles do you have? I am out of warranty due to the mileage. It's 10 years, or 100,000 miles. That is 3 years of driving for me.

[@kheff46]

Another great video! You're the essential subaru mechanic!!

[@joehedlund4492]

This is a fantastic video. It answered a lot of questions. That being said, CVT is definitely not for me. I find few pleasures in daily life, one is absolutely G-forces in the car/ truck. Whether it's acceleration in-line, or cornering in the cloverleaf. A Subaru would be a much more likely prospect if models were available with standard transmissions. Again, my thanks, this is a fantastic video!

[@martinburns342]

The handbook on my 2023 Outback XT says to replace the fluid at 90000kms. Under severe conditions, 45000kms, severe includes stop/start driving. Our Subaru's in Australia are imported from Japan. 🇦🇺

[@greggregson9687]

How much does a CVT service cost?

[@martinburns342]

@@greggregson9687 not sure. I only have 5000 kms on mine.

[@jimwalsh7088]

I love the CVTs in my 2019 Forester and 2020 Outback. They are very efficient and always select tyhe perfect "gear ratio" for the load. I drive very conservatively and at this point both my current Subarus have under 50,000 miles. I am considering replacing the CVT fluid at 80,000 miles, but I am thinking of taking the approach that my Honda mechanic suggested. Just drain the fluid and replace the amount of fluid that drained out. This leaves some of the fluid still in the CVT torque converter, but half of the fluid is fresh. The proces worked in my 2008 Civic which is still running and shifting perfectly after 130,000 miles. Yes, I know, the Civic 5 speed auto trans is quite a bit different than a CVT, but the general concept is the same. On the Civic I drained and refilled the ATF in less than 20 minutes. The Subaru proces of drining , topping up, warming up the trans to a very specific temperature and then draining and refilling again is very complex, requiring special tools, and I think is much more complicated than it could be.

[@2003evodave]

What I saw on line caused me to believe it was best to have the dealer flush my outback CVT. The work looked like it was long and needed special equipment. What is your thoughts? The dealer claims it takes hours and charged me $450.

[@jimcrane6862]

We have a 2011 Legacy that experienced chain slip at about 150k miles. I did a fluid drain and fill and it stopped slipping. It's got over 250k miles now. You better believe I change fluid every 30k now in that car as well as our 2012 Outback. Fluid is a bit cheaper online, and it takes a little less than 7 qts each time. You do need a scanner that can display fluid temp.

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

Robert is right about all of this. My mechanic says the same thing about the CVT. He replaces the solenoids/value body on a bunch of Subarus that fail between 80,000 and 100,000. He dislikes Subarus now because this takes up a lot of his time. I have had friends who have had it fail who don't use my independent mechanic, and they tell people to replace the CVT. Of course, no one does that and sells the car instead. I have two friends one who went to my mechanic, and got it fixed. One went to the dealership and sold the car when informed they had to replace the transmission (told me after it happened). My Subaru is older (2013 but has the H6 engine with a 5-speed automatic) so I don't have to deal with this problem.

[@ram1494]

Personally, as a new Subaru owner of a 2015 Outback I have no problem with the way it drives.

[@susanjones5715]

You brought something at the end of this post about the gear change feeling. I just bought a 2019 Legacy 3.6R. It has a little kick when decelerating from 2nd down to 1st. It also feels like it’s pulling back in low gear. It just feels so different from my 2015 Legacy 3.6R, which has been a fantastic car. I love 💕 Subaru