Subaru Forester Off Road - Lower Engineer Pass

This is Part 2 of our September 14, 2014 off road day trip to Silverton and Ouray, Colorado. Part 1 was Placer Gulch, this video shows us getting back to HWY 550 by taking the always fun and challenging Lower Engineer. I talk a lot more in this video than normal. Because: Starbucks.
Video taken September 14, 2014.
My car:
Black 2005 Subaru Forester XT Turbo
5-Speed Manual
NO LOW RANGE
2-inch Lift by SUMO Parts
215/70 R16 BFGoodrich Tires
Other Forester:
Silver 2005 Subaru Forester XT Turbo
4-Speed Automatic
Stock ride height
215/70 R16 Cooper Discovery AT3

[@IhsanPreludeSH]

I love to see folks out enjoying some light wheeling in 'regular person' rigs -- you don't need a Rubicon to have fun off pavement, and it looks like you had a bunch of it. Good stuff.

[@ModFoz]

RIP Kolby Webb (Silver Forester). You will be missed.

[@peterrupp]

What happened? Also I'm in Fort Collins and about to do a 2" life with AT3's. Looking forward to getting into some fun like this.

[@ModFoz]

Peter Rupp Long story short, we were all out on a drive, he lost control of the car attempting to make a pass, slid sideways into an oncoming truck, and was killed instantly. The car was shredded into two halves. It was the worst crash I have ever seen. Was really rough on me having to pull a dead friend from a burning car.

[@peterrupp]

bluefox4848 Damn Sorry for your loss.

[@SticksTricks]

I'm sorry for your loss that's terrible. Love your vids, I'm looking into getting a 03-04 fozzy 2.5 (my first car can't rly afford an xt) in a manual of course.

[@akjdhfkqwrhetkjanfvkkkresae]

bluefox4848 How much clearance is on the black one?

[@aratanatar]

thank you for the video - it is very inspiring to me...and sorry for your friend Kolby Webb RIP

[@christycurd8136]

I’ve been toying with the idea of getting a 2011 suby to replace my 2000 toyota rav4, and this video just sold me. Apparently clearance is not the issue so much as ballsiness

[@prattj1]

Subaru porn at it's best!

[@ModFoz]

Jacob Pratt ALL THE SUBARU PORN!

[@WeekendOverlanders]

Hi Josh, i just wanted to tell you that i'm so sorry about what happened to Kolby. It's a big lost for the Subary Offroad, there aren't so many people like you who takes the matter seriously and really enjoy their belived Foresters. My Condolences

[@heatherlapacka444]

My family and I just brought home a 2016 Forester yesterday! We'll be starting off FAR more gently than this, but I enjoyed watching the video. I went on a geocaching trip with friends a few months ago, and the Forester that I was riding in performed as well as or better than any of the other cars in our group. I was sold! Looking forward to many family adventures. I'll be watching a few more of your videos to learn a thing or two. Thanks for recording your trips!

[@Siskiyouoffroad]

I love it! :) Can I ask why you chose the Sumo kit? Do you have factory springs? I'm planning on buying a Fozzy (probably a SF, I prefer the styling), and trying to figure out the best suspension setup. Also, what are you going to do about low range? My understanding was that no one makes a low range Tcase that can withstand the power from the XT.

[@ModFoz]

RainAfterMidnightTV Factory springs, factory struts. Only difference is the SUMO lift kit on top of the strut assembly (doesn't require you to take the springs out). Great kit!

[@AZdroptop]

Great video! My buddies and I spent a week in Silverton and around the area riding motorcycles in 2007...trip of a lifetime. That was a great trail. Cheers!

[@andybonnici5761]

It`s not the 5 speed that is the problem, it`s the lack of low range gearbox which makes life easier on this type of terrain

[@ModFoz]

Which translates back to "the 5-speed is the problem". Never offered as low range in the US, so the manual is the issue.

[@303goonie]

Your car is badass, but your driving ability helps. I would be scared to take your car up these places like you do. I have a 4 inch lifted jeep and I get nervous. Well done!! Love your videos !!!

[@BluTrollPro]

Wow this looks great. I just picked myself up an 04 2.0XT (Turbo) 5spd manual a few weeks ago. Might get some knobblies and take it up the Cairngorm trails.

[@lucasreeserlarkin8996]

I've got an 06 L.L. Bean I've been working on. Thanks for the inspiration guys. Happy wheeling. This video is perfect for lifted versus non. I've got oversized tires too. Raised an inch in back. Sits ok, may go with boosters like you've got on Lead subby.

[@HighProStrategic]

where is this at exactly? I want to take my jeep up there

[@skateozzy]

What tire pressure you running? Seems like it could go lower. This car can do it but definately not the choice. Cool vid

[@ztoobie]

thank you for sharing your adventure

[@ModFoz]

Andrew Anon No prob! More to come, that's for sure!

[@ryankendrick6350]

pro trick: watch series on Flixzone. Been using them for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.

[@achillesmarcos1717]

@Ryan Kendrick definitely, I've been using flixzone for since november myself =)

[@kadenalbert3246]

@Ryan Kendrick definitely, I have been using flixzone for since november myself :D

[@Myrdoc]

This is why I'm leery of buying used cars.

[@ModFoz]

No different than anyone else who takes their vehicles off road.

[@spasmonaut10]

Great videos - really enjoying watching you guys working together on the trails. Very sorry to hear about the loss, man. Thank you for keeping these videos around to share. Some good memories there if I'd have anything to say about it.

[@ColoradoDualSport]

Nice work guys. Not exactly the right tool for the job, but you made it. We'll be doing this next year on dual sports and from the looks of the obstacles I see easy bike paths through all.

[@bcb2585]

Standard transitions are most of the time better for off road; but for some reason, when it comes to Subaru's, it is a detriment. If you had an automatic transmission you would have been much better off. There would have been virtually no drama.

[@TheChadWork2001]

I want a lift kit for my Outback and to go off road after watching this.

[@marenkuether-ulberg3311]

I miss my old 2004 which took me through anything.. Bought a new 2015 which I haven't off-road tested yet (I think that I will get skid plates again). Wanted to keep the other but my kid wrecked it after 3 days - at least he was safe. The new one feels *completely* different. Anyone off-roaded the new Forester?... I'm a little leery because it feels so big. Appreciate any feedback.

[@marenkuether-ulberg3311]

+Nick Radloff Thanks very much for your feedback! Not sure that I like the "fly by wire" feel at all. I kind of miss my immediate connection to the road -- like not being on a horse or a boat, but floating above it. Also, it is so much bigger overall. i'm still not used to it's dimensions (ugh, parking) and I don't feel as tight to the road on a turn. I'm hesitant to offroad it much yet, but I have a chance to these couple of weeks driving around Mt. Rainier and the Gifford Pinchot Nat Forests here in WA state. I'll let you know.

[@yannis4407]

Best regards from Europe! I want to buy a Forester from 2006 and I ask you and all other who watch yours video, wich has more capability for off road 2.0 petrol or 2.5? Further this, automatic or manual is better? I can,t wait answers. THANK YOU ANTICIPATED. Yannis

[@johnathansmith3819]

Man... at 2:07 you badly need a better under carriage [protection. I am going to make for mine (Forrester, 2002), a trapezoid H out of re-bars (3/4"), with 1/2" steel washers at their end, all welded and painted for corrosion control. In between the front and its end, three or four (depending on your measure of clearance in between) bar welded across. These will form a grid, protecting the oil pan, transmission's and - if you install an ABS plastic sheet to cover it all - will keep the air from cooling the engine too much in winter. Have caution to leave space for oil drainage. Congratulations! It must have been an excellent trip!!! Thanks!

[@isaacarmstrong8699]

You guys would enjoy some areas' around the northwest parts of washington.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYjKlYd4jr5oa9U

[@auctionadonline9292]

Believe it or not you need to let Subarus spin the tires. The computer will move the power to the wheels not spinning by applying the brake on the spinning wheels. With an automatic you will do better using both feet. One on the brake and the other on the gas. Stay on the gas and use the brake to control speed in rough areas. Makes for very smooth rock crawling.

[@ModFoz]

This is true with Subaru's that have VDC and Traction Control. Traction Control wasn't available on Foresters until 2007, and the VDC system until 2009. My 2005 Forester has no traction aides, only a rear VLSD, and an open front diff.

[@majorpain449]

Hello, sorry for your loss, I really know how you feel. I don't know if anyone has asked you this question but what size tires are those on both cars? Are those factory size AT? or did you have to go up a few size series/aspect ratio wise? I'm looking into 4 wheeling, I currently have a 1997 GMC Yukon 2dr turbo diesel as a daily driver, but don't want to use that because of fuel consumption, same with a Land Rover which are also v8s. I have had Subaru's in the past (96 outback and 2000 Forester), very competent cars in harsh North east winters, and seeing this convinces me more this is the way to go cuz of great gas milage. If there are any more tips you can share I'll be greatful. Keep the great videos coming

[@KeepRightExcepttoPass]

That manual Subaru must have given your left leg quite the workout!

[@ModFoz]

Yes, quite.

[@rickpearson276]

I'm sorry for your loss. It doesn't get much rougher than that. Thanks for sharing. I am about to buy a Forester, replacing my Tiger 800xc : ( I don't have your skills and have no plans to take it that close to its limits, but I'm glad to see how you do it - slow and patient. I am planning to get the 2.5l motor, but would like to have your take on how important it is to upgrade to the turbo 2.0.

[@krisfyffe8582]

The black forester tho 👌🏼

[@TFrills]

HOw is this easier in an automatic? I've owned both an automatic and manual 4wd subaru forester 2001 and I've found that the manual does far better on steep slopes . I can smell the clutch burning with the automatic when I just drive up a big hill. The only bonus is that it goes faster.

[@clobbohead]

Thanks for the enjoyable and exciting excursion on roads I'll never experience. I'd love to try that. What kind of tires did you two use. I could see B.F. Goodrich. I used T/A's on my '07. Makes me want to buy a skid plate for the oil pan!

[@ModFoz]

They're BFGoodrich All Terrain KO TA's. Great tires, extremely durable.

[@Prodriver33]

bluefox4848 and if you cant afford BF's get general grabber AT-2's they are the same tyre but cheaper.

[@JimmyKraktov]

clobbohead In my opinion and from experience, anyone doing this kind of off-roading without skid plates is a moron. Just asking for a very expensive ka-bang.

[@BJ40films]

9:19, the Forester in a forest! My Forester is always happy when it's in a forest :). Anyway, nice video, thumbs up!

[@theasiandave]

If your interested in another gopro here 4 and subaru outback joining the adventure I tend to do things like this solo. Living in CO. Recently went to moab to do some off road driving. Only one out there with a subaru.

[@agm5148]

Nice video. Subarus are tough cars, but they are not a Jeep. I'm surprised how well they did.

[@ka4172]

I think it coud be easyer in the classic 1800 Super Station Leone with dual range suby! Ha ha!

[@the_katman2181]

Looks like a gorgeous part of the world.

[@andrewkubinski]

Just purchased an 03 forester with plans to make it similar to yours by this summer. Was curious as to how your think the naturally aspirated automatic engine will do compared to your turbo Manual transmission? Ive taken my previous 02 wrx up in the Silverton area and seen a lot of those trails (kept the wrx on the easy stuff though lol). Im mostly concerned with a lack of power trying to climb at those altitudes? I miss my wrx for the added power and manual transmission, but ive seen that the auto foresters seem to have it easier when crawling over rough terrain? Any thoughts?

[@ModFoz]

Auto's are easier, but they seem to spin up diagonal spin a lot easier. The manuals are a pain because of high elevation and gearing. Low-Range 5-speed manual would be ideal in this car, but that requires a transmission swap from Australia.

[@mauricemotors8207]

RIP clutch lol nice driving wish my Nissan d21 4x4 with front locking hubs should keep up with the Toaster you have lol.

[@jordanparker882]

Awsome! are they stock? I love offroading in subarus. AWD=all we'll drive. What size tires are you guys running?

[@guillermolramirezc1676]

es un excelente vehiculo diseñado para caminos duros.

[@jd-py5nm]

this is what subaru's are made for shame to see most of them going to the mall at least here in idaho they see some snow on the way there lol

[@RKmndo]

Uh...not really. Subarus generally have no locked center, no 4Low, and no skids. These vehicles are made for bad roads/weather, not rocky trails. It doesn't mean they can't do it, but they're a lot more likely to damage something or wear something out than an armored 4WD with 4Low. Solid axles with lockers are also generally preferable for rockcrawling. FIS is better at speed.

[@patrickjohnson8832]

What size tires are you running?

[@Clickbaiters]

Hello BlueFox, can I ask for the make/model of that roof rack? Would love one for my SF5. Did you have to perform any mods to mount the spare on the rack?

[@ModFoz]

Roof Basket is Rola Vortex. Yes, the spare tire mounting is custom, will be posting a how-to video of that soon.

[@willgranzier1972]

What tyre sizes do you have on the dark grey/charcoal Forester... Did you lift the suspension a bit ?

[@ecvr30]

+bluefox4848 oh, ok cool. I'm looking to buy one and I want to mod it for off-roading.

[@thewatcher2075]

im blown away how well a stock subaru did

[@ModFoz]

Evak Blades Thanks. It's a "little" modified with the lift and tires, but drivetrain is fully stock.

[@whereisbenzo_]

I think he's referencing the silver Forester.

[@thewatcher2075]

bluefox4848 sorry lol i was talking about the silver forester

[@ModFoz]

Evak Blades His is a "little" modified as well with larger all-terrain tires.

[@offroadingsubarusofcolorado]

Fox check us out at offroadingsubarus of colorado. On facebook ..

[@ModFoz]

I totally would, but I don't have the evil Facebook! lol.

[@kevinfrancisco1730]

That subaru has good suspension travel for a crossover.

[@АллоЕксперт-ж2ж]

Приветствую, какая резина размер, на чёрном субару форестер?

[@albertserrano3707]

Very good crossover. I needs a little bit of power and better clearance. Overall, it is very good.

[@aarontrinidad5998]

ok i am a complete noobie to offroading so can someone explain to me if there are any benefits to having manual for offroading? because it just looks like a huge struggle to me and it makes me clench my teeth when I here and see clutch burning

[@ModFoz]

Manuals give you more control. Most of the time, a manual is a benefit when you have a low range transfer case with a 4 wheel drive system. In stock form, these cars do not have a low range transmission, which is why you see the struggle with the clutch slippage (it’s just a clutch, they’re cheap and it beats replacing the engine if you lug it badly and spin a rod bearing or pop a piston). The car now has a low-range manual from Australia and it has helped the car immensely off road. Check out my newer videos to see the difference.

[@aarontrinidad5998]

@@ModFoz hmm ok. makes sense. Most of my cars have been manual. I drive a g37 6mt and an 02 forester AT so thats why i am curious. Is there any benefits AT has over manual for offroading?

[@ScotSingpiel]

Love this! You guys seem like you're having fun...that's what life is about...

[@traviskelly4941]

Great video. I was in the Moab/Grand Junction area for 12 years. Thinking of getting a used Sube, but worried about the head gasket issue. You said yours has over 200K miles now? Any problems with head gasket, or other major repairs beyond routine maintenance?

[@ModFoz]

Travis Kelly Headgaskets are a more common issue on the older N/A engines, not the turbo ones. I also have a 2000 Outback with the N/A with "blown" head gaskets and it's been running fine for the past 40k miles. Just drips oil a little is all. Forester has had the engine out many times over its life, mainly because of cracked ring lands due to detonation from a fueling issue I didn't find until after I cracked the ring lands again.

[@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane]

Do you disconnect the sway bars when you do this?

[@ModFoz]

Yes.

[@milletsaji311]

Awesome 👏 What size is your tyre in this video

[@noobgamingok]

hi mate. just bought a forester xt lux 4sp auto. probably copy your build. good job

[@lambofjosh69]

Do you have skid plate? If so how did you rig it up if you don't mind me asking?

[@ModFoz]

Josh Robinson In this video, there was no skid plate. I only just recently acquired one that I considered worthy to be even called a skid plate. I'll be posting a video up on it soon.

[@4wdsome444]

Dude what do you mean automatics make it too easy. That’s the problem with them people let the vehicle do everything and don’t learn how to modulate the throttle to change gears differently. A skilled manual can out perform any auto that’s why people who USE a 4x4 and depend on them have manuals

[@ModFoz]

In regards to manual vs automatic Foresters, yeah, I meant what I said. Automatics make it easier to off road with. Smoking the clutch in a manual Forester without any sort of low range gets expensive after a while. Now, a manual transmission Forester with low-range, yeah, that would be brilliant. The US didn’t get low-range equipped manuals. So the only way to get one is to import the transmission. And that’s exactly what I’ve done, new videos soon.

[@mixflip]

you sound kinda like "the late boyscout"

[@ModFoz]

mixflip No idea what that is or means. Lol.

[@mixflip]

he is a relatively big youtube gun and outdoor gear youtuber from Utah.

[@davidebrezigar5590]

Do those wheels fit on a forester sf5 from 2001?

[@ModFoz]

They should, yes. I ran SF wheels on my Forester for a year or so until I went with my Methods.

[@chrisbutcher3511]

that lift is sexy.

[@martycadena8327]

I have a 03 baja with lift, Do you think it would handle this ok?

[@furripupau]

Is this headed towards or away from Lake City?

[@Machineautomotive]

Thanks for sharing this one also. Makes me want to go to Colorado during the summer even more. We go there for skiing in the winter.

[@ModFoz]

Colorado is epic......especially when you have either low range or an automatic, lol.

[@austinfleck8664]

Did this man just say that getting the 5 speed was the worst decision he ever made?

[@ModFoz]

Austin Fleck I said it was the worst mistake I made. Context being that I’m at altitude, it is not a low range 5-speed, and it was a hinderance. I now have the dual-range 5-speed and loving it.

[@ZulkSOD]

R.I.P. Back seat driver pinchwelds

[@bigleemac]

Brilliant cars these, I wonder if the new X Mode would of made a big difference on something like this? that a bit more clearance of course! Great vid man, thanks for sharing.

[@ModFoz]

Thanks! Yes, I do believe that X-Mode (and the fact that it's an automatic/CVT) would have made a huge difference for sure. Maybe one day Subaru will give me a new XT to thrash around off road, who knows. One can dream.

[@likeorasgod]

+bluefox4848 I just found an 2004 XT way lower price than I expect for the millage. I'm so tempted to get it. I got a pretty well modded 2008 WRX for street fun, but been thinking of getting something with a bit more room for camping and such since I don't have a work truck any more. First thing would be some A/T tires. Sad thing is down here in Texas we don't have as many hills and such. Did get a job in Grand Junction, CO for about a month and we had blast with the company 3/4 ton lifted trucks they had out there.

[@darkfireBikes]

I'm gonna feel the pain of a manual, but i do have low range in my 2000 mazda b4000 4x4. 3 inch lift and 31s soon to be 33s

[@ModFoz]

RedTeamWolf Low range is what matters at low speed (and altitude)

[@danvalleskey]

How much did you air down? Fun trip, thanks for posting.

[@QuintinScheffer]

So to be honest, Was the lift worth it in the end? It really seems like the standard ride height is capable of a lot more than you would encounter on a normal mountain pass. And for most of the way the silver one did the same route as you?

[@ModFoz]

On this particular trail, the additional lift wasn't necessary, but was nice to have as I didn't have to worry as much about clearances. On Poughkeepsie, the lift came into play for sure.

[@nilent]

Lol. Subies are great......but no sane person person would abuse their cars in this way. This is not a Hummer...and isn't supposed to be one.

[@ModFoz]

Nick Lento You’re right, it isn’t a Hummer, and I’m extremely glad it isn’t one. It’s a Subaru that I like to take off road and push its limits.

[@keithbrettell2058]

Great video! Sorry about your friend. I love my Cooper AT3s!

[@ec6933]

I like these but a 4 cylinder Tacoma with a bedcap just seems so much more practical

[@ModFoz]

Eighty cc Depends on how you use your car. I like to hoon my car around, camp IN it, go offered, and still carve up the canyon roads and rally cross it. It's the perfect vehicle for what I do. By far the most versatile.

[@beaglemanzzz]

"5 speed was the worst mistake I ever made" I feel your pain.

[@Bushmaster129]

Hey man great video what kind of lights are those on the lightbar?

[@nocoastoutdoors4793]

What bull bar did you have in this video?

[@engineer12v]

Do you think a better clutch would help alleviate the problem?

[@ModFoz]

No, the clutch itself bites fine. It's the gearing (lack of low range) that just kills it.

[@TheBluehornz01]

I really like your video. Good to see a couple of Subarus shredding trails out in the woods. I have BFG All-terrains on my Jeep and like them for everything except crazy mud. Good choice. I wonder how a stock XV Crosstrek would do on this trail? Anywho, great video.

[@ModFoz]

TheBluehornz01 It might do good, but the XV is pretty down on power, up this high, it may struggle quite a bit.

[@coolgabe9]

+TheBluehornz01 If you ever try it link us to the video!

[@thelonelyfry]

There's some lifter tick on that black fozzy.

[@killerklown6905]

I havint watch this or finished watching but rip clutch lol

[@m3racer]

How are the all terrains in snow on the street? grippy enough?

[@ModFoz]

All Terrain's are decent in the snow, better than all seasons, but NOTHING compared to dedicated snow tires.

[@KrostFrost]

front stabilizer bar disconnected ?? greater flexibility of the suspensions ??

[@ModFoz]

Yes, both front and rear sway bars are disconnected on both vehicles.

[@Clickbaiters]

Hello BlueFox, can I ask for the make/model of that roof rack? Would love one for my SF5. Did you have to perform any mods to mount the spare on the rack?

[@ModFoz]

Rola Vortex basket. Yes, I had to make a custom mounting setup for my spare.

[@Clickbaiters]

bluefox4848 Thanks for the reply! That's the basket I want, the price is right! I know you may not have the time for it but it would nice if you can show how you mounted the tire on the roof. Also, in looking up info on the basket, I came across your XT threads concerning the motor issues. Glad to see all is fine now, I was frustrated just reading it so I can imagine how you felt. Does the cargo block the huge sun roof too much? I'd love to keep my sunroof view as best as possible.

[@ModFoz]

xXG.L.HXx The roof rack is mounted as far back as it can go, and it only covers about 30% of the sunroof, which is not bad because it's just above it, doesn't actually block anything.

[@nicholasmassoudi6755]

What bumper is on the black fozzy?

[@hunterhoughton7843]

Manual foresters are better off road. The power differential is 50/50 front to rear. Automatics have 40/60 front to rear

[@ModFoz]

Manual low-range Foresters are better off road, yes. In this video with the stock 5-speed, it is not. Yes, the manuals have a 50/50 power split, but they do not have the gearing to allow them to crawl or go slowly over obstacles without severely slipping the clutch (especially at 11,000+ft elevation). The Automatics are actually more FWD biased due to the clutches that serve as the "center diff". When in "1" or "2", the transmission tries to make the torque split as close to 50/50 as possible, but still FWD biased. You can do the 4EAT transfer duty solenoid hack where it forces the transfer duty solenoid to "lock" and it will get you as close to 50/50 as possible.

[@hunterhoughton7843]

bluefox4848 thank you, I understand what your saying now. I can imagine how crawling rocks would put a lot of strain on the clutch with the 5speed on both engines. I enjoyed the video👍 I wish my 06 was an xt like yours!

[@sbwyo1966]

Hey great video! This was a while back but I'm hoping you'll still see this. I am considering buying a 2019 Forester. I love off-roading, but really light stuff....I just like to explore and if I encounter a light obstacle, get through it easily. Nothing difficult, no rock crawling, etc. Will the AWD at least make it possible for me to do steep ascents and descents? In my Chevy tracker I always used low range and did those without any problems. Thanks for any information.

[@adrianalvarado1291]

2.5 ltrs automatic is better in off road , that 2.0 ltrs with low range

[@Dino30ish]

The Black Subaru could benefit from a hand throttle .. Mount it to the shift lever and all you worry about it clutch and brake ... We use them all the time in manuals for rock crawling ...

[@ModFoz]

Norman Murray Indeed it could. Low range would be more beneficial for me first.

[@Dino30ish]

Do they make a t-case for a subi ? I didn't know this is something new to me . I build jeeps , so I dont know much about a subi .

[@joshuaSelmore]

If you head to cobb or other well known tuners you could with a couple bolts ons increase your tq output and it would help you out a lot. I would start with a cobb ap v3, it's just a plug and play tuner that will if you and overall increase in power.

[@ModFoz]

I've already had the accessport on my car with downpipe and tune during my Poughkeepsie video. Doesn't help much, only thing that will is low range gearing.

[@skateozzy]

I agree with bluefox no amount of mods to the engine will provide what low range would.

[@CarFanatic]

Are your sway bars disconnected?

[@ModFoz]

Car Fanatic Yes.

[@isaacarmstrong8699]

I have an 1987 Subaru Gl with a 2" lift and 14" rims.. But the guys we usually go with have much higher lifts than i do.. fun though

[@ModFoz]

Isaac Armstrong I've always wanted an old GL, haha!

[@isaacarmstrong8699]

They are lots of fun!

[@lukemachale2903]

did not realize how close this is to me.. Awesome!

[@binimszueriidschuel]

Where the hell you guys find streets like this lol

[@cedartowndawg]

I'm, hopefully, going to pick up an '04 XS tomorrow, this stuff makes me really happy that I'm getting a Subie

[@ModFoz]

cedartowndawg Sweet, lift and take it off road!

[@cedartowndawg]

bluefox4848 I'm planning on it right now, and I've been looking into some options but I'm not sure how much lift I wanna go for. I've read that some people use the saggy nose/butt spacers just to get a little bit more aggressive look but I want a little more function and so I was looking at one, maybe two inches. But with two, don't you run into the limits of the rear camber adjustment and end up with positive camber even with it pulled all the way in?

[@CarswithNash]

Holy flex!

[@NitroCharger]

Torq Converter subaru awesome. Very easy :)

[@ModFoz]

NitroCharger Yep, the automatics do make it easier, BUT they also seem to go into diagonal spin a lot quicker as well. Trade off I assume. Dual-Range Australian 5-speed manual, here I come!

[@NitroCharger]

bluefox4848 I like your subaru videos. I think you should get a sony action cam.

[@ModFoz]

NitroCharger I like the GoPro's a bit better, especially with the App control. I need another Canon SX50 HS combined with this new tripod attachment that tracks the car automatically. But this is off in the future, they're expensive.

[@NitroCharger]

bluefox4848 Thx for answer. I am interesting Forrester, 2004 A/t forrester. Do you have chronic problems with these models? This is my car. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2mxhpuqfJdlosU I need SUV.

[@ModFoz]

NitroCharger Well, I'm just having stuff break on me now because I hoon the car around, and it's at 200,000 miles, so stuff will break, but no, never had a break down before, ever.

[@darkerimpulses7146]

Dude this footage is awesome. Thanks for sharing the view.

[@daneholloway8695]

16:40-17:40 real nice! Some great camera work here as well

[@haydenlivingston7096]

do you know if there are any fun trails like this near Denver also I have the same Forester just stock ride height is a lift necessarily

[@ModFoz]

Haven't been wheeling at all around Denver, but the Forester forums always shows stock Foresters up in that area.

[@haydenlivingston7096]

+bluefox4848 thanks man. I'm moving to Denver this summer and I love doing that kind of stuff

[@hightower2537]

do you take any spare parts with you?

[@whereisbenzo_]

You think a 1.5 inch lifted STi could make it up there?

[@ModFoz]

ThatWhiteSTi Possibly. Would have to really watch the wheel placement.