Subaru Outback Spring Detail - BEST Mechanical Inspection Tips!

Join me on a fun Studio episode as I go down the rabbit hole of a spring "armpit" detail on the family Subaru. Unfortunately, things go off the rails as I struggle to get a wheel off due to a bent stud. Thankfully, Beav & Travis from tacticalbabygear.com are visiting the Studio to design an AMMO Detailing Bag. Luckily for me, they also happen to wrench and we discover on further inspection the Subaru's rear brakes could use a replacement. Beav, a former mechanic walks us through the top tips for inspecting your vehicle's mechanical integrity while I perform a spring cleaning. Super fun episode with a ton of "Easter Eggs" for new products in development. Enjoy and thanks for the support as always! - L
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[@HEMi1995]

I love our yearly Outback Spring Cleaning video. A tradition like no other ✨

[@vlad9999]

Never lubricate a thread. The torque specification is for a clean bare thread/gasket (except if mentioned otherwise, such as oil filter gasket). By adding lubrication and torqueing to the same value, it will actually be tighter.

[@BeefT-Sq]

You are right , at least as far as wheel lugs go . Some manufacturers caution that lubing the threads makes it easier for the nuts to come loose later .

[@zeitgeist2720]

A tiny bit of anti seize will not effect it at all, other than make removal much easier. Especially in rust belt.

[@kmpaton]

@@zeitgeist2720 Many manufacturers specifically state in the service manual NOT to install anti-seize as it affects the proper torque of a bolt. This also applies to using it on spark plugs in aluminum cylinder heads.

[@James_Greene]

“Check the belts, check the hoses…” Larry: “LEAF! YOU AGAIN?!”

[@AMMONYCSTUDIO]

Lol

[@saucyp123]

Love how the car looks brand new, despite being well-used. Proper care makes all the difference

[@nickolastiguan]

I love how you park your Porsche at Steve’s haha it is a blessing when you have great neighbors

[@blakslee720]

6:57 totally agree. When you find careless mistakes on the small stuff, it makes you really skeptical about everything else they've done

[@Racer_kmk]

Had my motor rebuilt in my car and sent it back 3 times for issues- I’m really paranoid about it

[@gunsnsails]

Note to self...it's time to spring clean the wife's car, my truck and get the Ducati ready. Awesome video Larry! I've had issues with the dealership and wheel studs. They want to charge me $120 to replace what they screwed up. Not today Satan. Not today.

[@sacredhealstv901]

I would've told them considering you did it and it's in your dealer you're either gonna be holding my car for free {they do NOT want to do that} or you can fix what you did. They usually fold within about..before I finish my sentence.

[@kmpaton]

I'm getting ready to polish my Ducati this weekend. My Ducati dealership loves wiping it with their towels after servicing and swirling the paint and windscreen.

[@gunsnsails]

@@kmpaton yup. All you can do is insist they let you clean up their mess. What do you have?

[@kmpaton]

@@gunsnsails 2022 Supersport 950s

[@gunsnsails]

@@kmpaton very cool! I have a 2016 Panigale 959. Just did full detail yesterday. Hoping to eventually sell and go to the Panigale V4S.

[@quallzone6219]

Thank you for showing a *real-world* vehicle and common scenarios (ex: cross-threaded studs) that we DIYers frequently encounter. This may not be an Audi R8 or Porsche 911, but the video is just as informative and enjoyable!

[@kylehanson8655]

Never add lubricant to the threads of the lug stud or nut. The antiseize says on the back of the bottle that it isn’t for use on wheel studs. It will cause inaccurate torque of the nut and cause it to be over torqued and will allow the stud to stretch and potentially break.

[@RayTheFPSGamer]

Great work on the car, Beav is awesome for giving his time and energy to you to help you fix the stud and replace the brakes

[@Wubblr]

Gone through three studs on my WRX. One from a dealer, and the other two at different shops. The Subaru studs just do not like torque guns. I swap my summer/winter wheels myself with a torque wrench. Never had an issue myself.

[@andysgaragetherapy]

After my first service visit on my brand new car this happened. After that I never let anyone touch my car and 100% put antiseize on the studs helps big time and also allows for proper torquing of the lug nuts. Great advice Larry et al!

[@gmans7859]

I have been in the Automotive Industry all my life. My son and I do ALL our own work and ALWAYS re checking things. Makes me sad. It truly isn't that hard. I 've watched. They Gun them down and pretend Torque Wrench.

[@todtalk3912]

@@gmans7859 no doubt. I worked at a tire shop when i was younger, didn't know any better its how i was taught then, but we used super high end air torque guns, n we cranked em down, n then went over em with a star pattern 1 more time. The problem is, if you touch the lugs, you should re torque em again in 500 miles. They def do occasionally come loose esp if the ft lbs is only 80, most are closer to 90, not talking about trucks or anything, average normal vehicles. Now, i dont let anyone touch my lug nuts and if they do, i immediately take my vehicle home. Break them loose and re torque them to spec n check em in a week. I will also know fo sure who cross threads my lug nut if that should happen and it wont be months later with no ability for recourse. I dont even trust someone to change my oil now, i do everything i can possibly do without a lift or ability to remove the engine or trans obv.

[@todtalk3912]

@@gmans7859 also generally think to myself, if this guy can do it, i can sure as hell try n most likely get it done lol.

[@skylinecar1982]

Torque specs are for dry components unless noted that lubrication is needed.

[@gmans7859]

@@skylinecar1982 True...

[@HypnotizinDetailz]

Larry, this was one of your best videos so far - it was so real, so human, so honest, so open, really enjoyed every single moment of the backstage things; I wish it was longer! 👌🏻🤩👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@ilikechickensausages2075]

Yo,yo,yo, Hypnotizin

[@HypnotizinDetailz]

@@ilikechickensausages2075 - Yo yo yo, hello my Friend! 🤩🤜🏻💥🤛🏻😉

[@ilikechickensausages2075]

@@HypnotizinDetailz I miss your content i need some relaxation 😉

[@HypnotizinDetailz]

@@ilikechickensausages2075 - Thank you very much my Friend, it means a lot! 😊🙏🏻 We went through lots of challenges, it looks like things started to settle a bit, therefore I’m hoping that I can jump back on content creation soon! We still have the Mazda’s interior raw videos from last year’s March to process - hopefully it’s going to happen in the very near future! 🤩

[@henrycollins2478]

MOTHERS DAY! Thank you for the excuse to detail my moms car

[@todtalk3912]

Can also simply use brake cleaner to clean the new rotors. Even if ur really in a cheap skate mode, just degreaser or dawn dish detergent will work as long as you can rinse em good.

[@leefogel2240]

Terrific advice, terrific video and the Soobie looks, well, terrific! Good job Team AmmoNYC!

[@mayadenton9329]

Love this video! Very educational! Keep up the good work!

[@01123581321341]

I work in a car manufacturing plant and ‘hand starting’ any bolt 2-3 threads is always recommended to us. Believe me i’ve saw tons of crossed bolts all over the car and engine when you try and do it quickly.

[@oliverjd26]

This was the first time seeing the studio from the outside for me. Now I want a detailing studio just like it on the outside as well inside!!!!

[@300DBenz]

No, do not put antiseize on wheel studs or lugnuts! It causes overtorquing, and after it sits on there for a while it loses its lubrication properties and gums up the threads, making them harder to remove Just make sure the threads are clean of rust and dirt, they should spin on by hand nice and easily. If there’s resistance, run a correct size thread chaser to clean it out and replace any damaged studs or nuts. And of course, ALWAYS use a torque wrench set to the CORRECT spec!

[@otomoravec1732]

I disagree regarding the antiseize. Even if you do torque it to the nominal value, the actual tensioning of the stud or bolt is only marginally higher. If you have problem with that, simply set your torque wrench a little lower. It never happened to me that the antiseize would gum up, but maybe we just use different stuff. Most often I use WD40 for this job anyway. It gives me a little lubrication, protects against moisture and leaves basically no residue. Never ever have i had a problem with lug nuts when it was me who did the previous wheel change.

[@gavinli5911]

This is a personal story. Currently, we have 2 cars we own. I ford explorer that doesn't get much love as it is a work car, and a tesla that we take good care of. When we got the tesla brand new, we took apart most of the suspension/chonky bolts. (Over 12mm) that were prone to rusting. (Suspension, motors, etc.) and slapped a bit of anti sieze on em. This year, for the annual brake service, it was like butter to take apart. and there was no rust on the threads. But with the ford, we were swearing up and down, to try to get the wheels off because the friggn lugs were seized. Yeah, lube does cause increased clamping pressure for bolts, but for wheels and shit, its not about how tight it is, of course it has to be tight enough, but its mostly on how evenly its tightened. Even torquing a wheel without lube to 130 ft-lbs does no damage to the wheel.

[@jamesk3565]

It's therapeutic watching your channel. Love your videos Larry

[@Nick-wk2xo]

I think I caught a Seinfeld reference back there. Great detail, looks glad were able to get it all done

[@craigallen5092]

Larry great video. I have a Subaru ascent for almost 3 years. Zero problems or issues. It is hand washed weekly and detailed monthly. (Never been to any car wash). Subaru makes a great product

[@tymeryder7264]

Most satisfying. Looks like new.

[@FreddysCarsaAndChaos]

As a guy who works as a mechanic in a tire shop in upstate ny, Subarus are NOTORIOUS for this even when torqued correctly. So many times do I have to explain to a customer that a 2021 Outback broke 3 studs while removing haha

[@Lpass2020]

Another great video. Awesome to get the bits of mechanical info in there.

[@julianpalmer4674]

Larry I agree with the idea of adding antiseize to the necessary components but, the manufacturers torque specs for wheel bolts or lug nuts are quoted 'dry' ie no lubrication. So if you add antiseize how much tighter do you torque them to take account of the extra lube you have just added to the thread? The idea of having them dry is that there is little or no chance of them walking themselves back out while being driven. Also if they do need antiseize and it is that important why is it not added when the car is built? What I do is thouroughly wire brush the parts to get off all the oxide/rust build up I've never had a problem. I await for the copperslip warriors to come out brandishing their wrenches to tell me a thousand reasons why i'm wrong!

[@todtalk3912]

I totally agree, i will however put some on the face of the rotors, esp the rear tires, and esp if u have a vehicle with drum brakes, however, i too clean the studs off and everytime i remove a bolt thats older and corroded or rusted i stick in a vice and clean it good with a wire brush. Never put anti seize on lug nuts, thats insane. Now if its not a component that needs that if ut cones loose will kill you, then i will usually use something just because i live in pa n they salt everything in the winter which totally ruins everything

[@loganleveaux6858]

Very good tips for things to inspect and how to by the tactical baby gear guys!!

[@ronayotte3571]

Excellence as always!

[@PaulRozeboom]

Really enjoyed this format for the studio channel. I'd definitely be interested in watching a video about how you get new products made.

[@Icemancomp25]

Awesome video.

[@MyMemesAreTerrible]

Larry’s the type of guy to have a band new Porsche Taycan but also a Subaru Outback from the beginning of time :) Great video as always! Really enjoy this style

[@GageDrums]

I live for Larry's spring cleaning videos

[@TheDudeZach]

If Larry is working on this Outback, you know drops of knowledge are coming.

[@Justins00ss]

Very good video. I always check stuff when I have the wheels off doing customer vehicles. Literally just had a new gt500 last week that the dealership left the front spring spacers in the coil springs. Luckily he only drove a couple hundred miles but if I hadn't been doing a wheels off detail who knows.

[@ilikechickensausages2075]

This is better content than seeing a car that has not been washed in 100 year's Same thing happened to my brother's WRX but he was to quick on the impact gun in reverse. Had to tow it and fix as per what you did 🇦🇺

[@shirmworm]

Great vid coverage - the general mechanical addition was super as well. Thanks!!! Everyone - please be aware that there's a scammer out there hacking away. He uses the Ammo logo as well. If it reads hard to believe like "You won a new MG-TD..." don't fall for it!!! Best Regards!!!

[@RH-hz9ly]

Some Monaco Valtteri Bottas moment there 😅

[@quallzone6219]

I love the point at 10:39 minutes . . . While the mechanic is discussing an engine checklist, Larry notices and immediately removes a piece of pine straw from the engine bay!

[@clausssvr]

11:00 : Is the TBG guy rocking a LUMINOR PANERAI watch? That's one expensive but exquisite/smooth choice. Nice!

[@SimplyMustGo]

This is why I have Beav do all the work on my Jeeps. haha

[@SAGITTARlUS]

This is why you cange your own tires, and lubricate both the hub rim and bolts. I see some people talking about how bad that is. But the truth is I've been doing it for over 10 years. Twice a year on multiple cars! And I've never, ever had a single issue. Copper or aluminum paste does the trick. Torq down and I promise, my dogs life on the line. It will be fine!

[@Mogsy28uk]

great video Larry, every month its 'detail the Gen 5 Outback' for me in Scotland (I have Ivory Leather interior to contend with), highly recommend Michelin Cross Climate all-weather tyres, saves any changes.😁 Beav is a handy guy to have available, added a good perspective to the video -- can he visit more??

[@alanwallace3253]

Had to laugh as you were doing the interior. My wife is a tennis pro and every time I’m cleaning it, it’s an adventure. Empty water bottles, suntan lotion all over including the fabrics, the list is endless. Now saying that, I can’t tell you how many nice rides I’ve worked on when her clients see her car, and absolutely shocked it’s almost 10 years old!

[@ethanblack6174]

This steve guy is amazing

[@todtalk3912]

Id like to see this vehicles engine bay cleaning done in its completeness. I have a 2010 outback and absolutely am going to hit this as well.

[@JerryPemberton]

Subaru wheel studs are notoriously easy to snap. Thankfully, they're easy to replace. You will need a wheel stud installer unit thingie, though, and can get them at any Advance Auto or whatever auto parts store is near you. You don't *have* to use one, but they make installing the studs a much quicker and painless process.

[@henrik1743]

Larry, use a huge pipe as an extension next time to loosen the bolts first, then you don't run as high of a risk stripping the nuts / bolts. Then when it's loosened you can go ham with the pneumatic tool

[@thatguy3571]

“I got a little guy” proceeds to make a banger of a dad joke seconds later

[@insayno9959]

First thing to do when I get my car back from a tyre shop or mechanic: Take each wheel off with the brace that you have in the car. If you can't get it off with that brace, then you can't get it off on the side of the road. So many technicians will rattlegun the shit out of a lug nut, so it's important to know it is torqued properly and,, in this case, not cross threaded.

[@moneyparhar]

I use superclean full strength in foam Canon and just using car jack. Foam undercarriage and use water broom to rinse.

[@sanjays6120]

This literally happened to me on my daily a few weeks ago. Was rotating my tires before a long drive later that day and come to find Discount Tire cross threaded 3 lugs when I last got new tires.

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

I actually check the lug nuts in the parking lot as soon as I receive the vehicle back from getting new tires.

[@richyw959]

Great video. I always take care of my wife’s car during the winter just wish I could get underneath. Happy wife happy life 👍

[@Clint_L]

Caddy shack quote?? Looks great L as always.

[@waynefitzsimmons]

What a grate video as all ways , I’m all ways clean my wife car f she is a care in the community , I’m all ways learn some new & new technics in car detailing .

[@HEMi1995]

13:20 I have one of those brushes. May try cutting down the center to make it dual density like yours

[@AJd1996]

STEEEVEE!

[@styledliving]

It might be worth mentioning safety regarding the Prevost air blow gun regarding air embolisms. People can die from that esp if they have an open wound from working on cars on top of detailing.

[@BrianCabrerahd]

BIG BRAIN MOMENT RIGHT THERE 13:40

[@TheJeracuda]

it looks closer to spring by you than it does here in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan lol

[@ColeSpolaric]

Washed out my wheel wells on my truck for the first time in over 2 years. (It went through plenty of touchless washes in-between) The kind lined with sound deadening. The black coming out of there wouldn't stop. Rinsed each one for like 5 minutes, soaped them up, let it sit, then rinsed again for 5 minutes. Unbelievable!

[@jeffreydale1466]

BEAV!!

[@noisybarinavalon]

** Warning** I wouldn't necessarily recommend anti-seize. Be sure to follow your manufactures recommendations. Some lug nuts and bolts are designed to be installed with dry threads. You don't want your lug nuts and bolts to back out while traveling at highway speeds.

[@alb12345672]

I agree, my Ford Manual says NOT to use it. Better a teeny bit of rust to keep them in place.

[@Tango_November]

Larry, I had the same exact thing happen to our Outback. I usually do my own maintenance on our cars (also lucky enough to have a lift) and the ONE time I took it to the shop, the tech overtightened the lug nuts. When I went to switch to our summer tires, the stud SNAPPED OFF! Nightmare. Great tips on checking things all over the car. Only thing to add...the age of a tire matters and certified winter tires have a drawing of a three peak mountain with a snowflake in the middle (as seen on yours). Anti-seize is a must!

[@cannonsloan2783]

I’ve been looking for a good bag for awhile now

[@SS95170]

Thanks again for the upload, what lubrication did you use for the wheel stud's?

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Makes my wife happy.... Never ending story

[@motiOn732]

have been thinking about a dual density brush for tires for many years. should have jumped on it =\

[@blakslee720]

I'm starting to get some Tim Taylor, Wilson Wilson vibes from Larry and Steve ;)

[@azarahwagner2749]

Dealerships suck because they don’t regulate their air pressure and use air wrenches to install lug nuts . I only use a power bar and torque wrench. NEVER put any lube on lug studs , it is HIGHLY DANGEROUS due to loosing your tires and you can snap off the lug bolts because the oil allows it to tighten at a higher torque . NOTE *** In tech manuals the torque specs have 2 numbers . The first is wet torque and the second dry torque.

[@kevincampbell8298]

Tech at dealer rushing like your buddy said. Even my son who is not a car guy knows of its not going on easy stop. Last fall he said dad this one is not going on right. And sure enough it was partially cross threaded. I taught him on by hand a few threads then use the gun. My wife does not clean the car either. Tea and pop stains everywhere!

[@aarongonzalez2156]

Larry I've seen this method going around. Have you tried using one of those muscle massagers to kill with interior dirt, dust and sand?

[@michael_graper]

Larry have you tried the DA on the carpet trick to kind of vibrate the sand to the surface?

[@vanoscrap6296]

yeah someone just went to town with the dak-dak without threading the nuts on by hand first. Classic.

[@joshc1291]

The lug nuts probably need to be replaced, but it was definitely cross threaded, as a prior technician I have seen those style lug nuts fail, but this was not that, they definitely just rammed it on with a couple of ugga duggas

[@BrianCabrerahd]

Looking at the shelf above Larry around 13:00 What is the shelf life of AMMO products in general?

[@wozmac771]

Like your comment about not going to the dealer. I wonder if there are any good dealers out there. They mostly overchage for all the services, do not care about their mistakes, blame other companies etc. etc.

[@benjaminallen2370]

I feel like I might have cross threaded one lug on my wife’s OB last time I rotated the tires. And U hand start 2-3 turns of course. So maybe they are easy to crossthread. But again it was only one, not multiple.

[@bhcamaro2002]

Where in upstate NY did you guys travel?

[@BMWE3692]

Great video I own a 2008 Subaru Legacy and it has the famous sticky dash for some reason the materials used for the whole dash tend to give off a sticky substance when exposed to the sun ☀️ have you come across something like this ? What product (s) would you recommend to take care of the Subaru sticky dash … thanks and keep up the great work. Also love all your products it makes cleaning 🧼 cars easy.

[@liamflynn6929]

You can clean it off with apc or interior cleaner but it's just gonna come back regardless of what you do. Get a dash mat

[@BMWE3692]

@@liamflynn6929 thanks I’ll look online for Dash mat/cover

[@matteopiovano5567]

Hi! Don't you install summer tires?

[@MBisFrenchy]

The tech at Colonial Subaru is going to go uh oh I rushed and made that mistake on Larry's wife's car some day if they see Larry's video.

[@thomasallan5893]

I do want to note that Subarus are bad about lug and studs. From working at a tire shop, it is always a worry when Subarus come in because we expect the lug to be stuck, or cross threaded and then we have to break the stud to get the wheel off. Definitely need to make sure the dealership knows what they have done wrong to prevent this happening again.

[@HEMi1995]

AMMO Hydrate Pro??? Sign me up

[@londoncentral]

I was always under the impression !! That torqueing wet thread. ie anti seize stops you from getting the correct torque spec settings.

[@skylinecar1982]

Lubrication on the studs but not the caliper slides???

[@friskyanderson]

You need to remove the lugs in a star pattern 🌟 just like you put them on.

[@bryanjohnson665]

This is an very enjoyable channel and love your insight and expertise. A couple of things here that stick out to me. 1. Always hand thread the lug nuts back on the studs, at least for 3 - 5 turns. This will prevent any chance if cross threading. Unless defective, the studs should last the life ofa vehicle. 2. The power washing and scrubbing of the calipers, which many detailers seem to do, can wash out the lubrication from the caliper slide pins which may be causing the uneven brake pad wear. Plus if the roads are salted, that can prematurely degrade the lubrication as well.

[@thomaszak9551]

The model year outback has electronic e-brake on it and you have to put the vehicle in brake maintenance mode to spin in those caliper. if that wasn't done you potentially just ruined both of those rear calipers.

[@Josh-df3og]

20:20...Seinfeld if I am not mistaken?

[@cozdude3354]

NEVER put anti seize on lug nuts! Lowers the torque spec of the bolts causing you to over torque the bolts

[@michaelhartzfeld9427]

Larry's wife: Hey honey, did you run my car through the car wash? Thanks, that was sweet. What else did you do all day?

[@tjw8t1]

When I was a tech at a Subaru dealer, I replaced more wheel studs and lug nuts than I ever had in my whole career. They are the worst in the industry next to older Chrysler products.

[@SalisburyKarateClub]

I would have painted the calipers while you had them out

[@CJP1012]

I stripped a lug nut myself with my impact wrench. I used a thread restorer to repair mine. It was much easier than trying to remove the lug nut as it was really tough to get to.

[@Bluegogglesonadog]

Hi everyone, I missed the moment Larry switched from washing mitts to microfibers for the bodywork. Can someone point me to a video where he explains why? Thanks

[@todtalk3912]

I dont think enough people really take care of their vehicles rubber and trim from this stage of a new vehicle. This is when you should be protecting the rubber door seals and window seals and the rubber boots underneath and even the rubber motor mounts.

[@fcscouto]

I'm surprised the dealer plate frame is still on the car, especially after the terrible job they did the last time you took it there!

[@micahjohnson6799]

Unless it’s for warranty work that can’t be done elsewhere, I NEVER go to the dealership. They don’t do as good of work at an expensive price. Private shops are always the way to go.

[@ToliBuilds]

8:10 Check both pads. If they are both even wear good. If not. Where the caliper bolts are )on your outback which should be 12mm) once removed there are slides that go into the caliper..... they require servicing once you do the brakes. Use Bendix brake parts lube to lube the slide, then put them in and make sure they slide freely. 9/10 times uneven pad wear is caused by the slides not being lubricated and the jam up. I hate lazy technicians. 😒