Sublimation HACKS - Sublimation INSIDE of the mug?

[@nomaddesigner]

dont think the insides and the bottom are coated with a sublimation coating which is why it fails. There is a sublimation spray that you can use which may work on the inside but as it stands I dont think it's a time or weight issue

[@amandakinneard1225]

This was my thought as well!

[@darlahpotechin1668]

the issue is drinking from a sublimatible inside. I would try the bottom outside

[@darlahpotechin1668]

also I have been successful with the handle

[@TeresaLuck54]

This is my thought as well

[@whitneybeverley2132]

I think so too. But also did the sand get hot enough as well.

[@tapphirecreations]

Thank you for doing this! I just watched that video with the sand before yours and I had such high hopes for using my Cricut mugs and press to print the inside. Thank you for doing this because you just saved me time and materials!!

[@DesignBundles]

Hi! We are so happy to help! That is exactly why we are doing those! To save you time and money 🤗 - Agata

[@andreatthatsme]

thank you for the tutorial. while watching, i had an idea. not sure if you want to try it. but what about using cheese cloth or canvas to hold the sand. like in a pouch of some kind. like when you make a sandbag. i dont know what sandbags are made of but a mini version should work the same. or maybe a bag of heat rocks? really small ones to add weight? just an idea.

[@DesignBundles]

Great idea! I have to find a blank that has sublimation coating inside too... if it exists

[@SteveInQLD007]

I was wondering the same thing, is the inside of the mug sub coated but also if you wanted to retry it, maybe load the sand inside a heatproof bag first and that way, you could press the bag inside the mug so it's really tight against the sides maybe and see how that goes but would there any health issues with the ink coming off and being ingested over a period of time?

[@mindycastoire1630]

Can you use small rocks

[@jennstevens6693]

Great video,I'm curious if you can sub on the outside bottom of the coffee cup with the cricut mug press?

[@DesignBundles]

Hmmmm... There is no heat there....

[@cynthiafisher6995]

Is the paper you printed the outside design on special paper or just regular print paper?

[@starrspoter]

can u use sub design with infusible paper? or are there designs on there own for infusiable paper and ink?

[@DesignBundles]

Hi Vicki! Sublimation designs are printed using the PNG file and the infusible paper is cut using the SVG. If the design is available in that type of file and can be cut, it could work! You may want to send the image in to [e-mail] and we can take a look! - Dawn 🥰

[@pamwaldron3504]

Is the inside of the mug treated for sublimating? Would that be safe to have contact with hot beverages? If so, what if you filled the mug with sand very full to the top, then placed a heavy disk of some sort that normally would fit inside the mug, but you put it on top of the sand, pressed it down and added a shrink wrap around the mug from top to bottom? Do you think that would be enough pressure?

[@TammySwan-jc3po]

What about laying the subli-shrink onto of the inside image, heating the subli-shrink then filing with sand? Maybe try the cuo press and oven again trying that?

[@DesignBundles]

Hi Tammy! Subli shrink works best if it is wrapped around something. I am afraid it would just shrink on the bottom of the mug. Doesn't hurt to try, though! Thank you for the tip! - Agata

[@k.r1145]

Normally, cups are never coated with polymer on the inside! Because this coating dissolves when in contact with hot liquids and this is carcinogenic

[@diyhallshacks8414]

please tell me what kind of tablet you are using i love the size. thanks

[@DesignBundles]

Hi there! That tablet is actually the Apple TrackPad! - Dawn

[@aussie_wheels]

Hi there, loved the video & have 2 questions , 1, where did you get your tape dispenser from ..?? 2, where did you get your heat proof gloves from ...??

[@MarkOrsted]

Maybe use a c-clamp and a round disc and create the pressure. Similar to when we push brake cylinders back in.

[@lynnebizlyne436]

I saw another crafter that had sublimated pictures inside his mugs but he did not do them, he buys them pre-done so he doesn’t know how they do it either. I’m sure it has to have the sublimation coating on it but I wonder if they bake it after sublimating to ‘gas’ off anything left inside the mugs?

[@lindaswisher4073]

Is the inside treated to take sublimation ink?

[@DesignBundles]

I am guessing not 🙈 Just trying to find out if it even exists...

[@ambarr4328]

Can I ask which brand is your oven?

[@DesignBundles]

Hi Ambar! The oven was purchased here: Convection oven - amzn.to/2X7UN0O - Dawn

[@83SupaNatural]

I would love this for decoration only but not sure if i would drink from it. I really wanted it to work. Maybe we can try a sublimation spray so it will stick or maybe use a smaller heat safe cup and fill that with sand and place it inside the cup. You have my mind thinking now lol.

[@DesignBundles]

Working on it!

[@BeingBrandy]

How do you sublimate the bottom to add logo?

[@DesignBundles]

Hi Brandy! We haven't had success adding anything to the inside or bottom as we get that correct pressure. We are working on it though! Stay tuned! - Dawn

[@kjoscrappinmama]

That would be super cool if you could do that, however, is the ink food safe, or safe to drink from? I wonder if the inside is even coated for sublimation, and if the coating would be safe? Also, I know they make the spray to coat items and make them sublimate, but again, I'd worry about safety with that!

[@DesignBundles]

I am trying to get some information on that! I saw someone doing that so I thought it has to be safe but now seeing no results... I am reconsidering. Anyway I will do some research and if it's safe I will try again!

[@kjoscrappinmama]

@@DesignBundles Awesome, thank you so much! It would be such a cute touch!

[@connieabner]

I would think it would be safe to the extent that your mouth touches the sublimation on the outside of mugs and tumblers. I personally don’t think the inside is coated to do so. I have seen videos inside a sublimation factory and they were sprayed upside down. Nice thought, though!

[@demogirlsworld]

@@connieabner my thoughts exactly, plus the mugs get washed. silly comments saying they would not drink from it,I guess full mug wraps are out for them lol

[@teardrops7841]

I’m guessing no sublimation coating inside mugs. If you use a spray, I’m guessing you need to make sure it can be used with food/drink.

[@DesignBundles]

Hi there! Yes, we think that my be the issue! We also tried using a sublimation spray but it didn't work well either. We've reached out to sublimation companies and hopefully someone will create a product that will make this possible!

[@cherylgoguen2343]

I wanted to know if it is food safe?

[@DesignBundles]

Well it didn't work. We have a video on food safe coating that we tried for the same craft so stay tuned!

[@sarainreno30]

I love that you posted a failure, it saves us work! I imagine the sublimation chemical is not in the inside of the mug.

[@sylviaszegedi521]

Can you make a sand bag for the inside of the mug?

[@bebemoon]

i believe most sublimation mugs and tumblers only have the outside sublimation ready, especially since the inside goes in contact with food and drinks

[@DesignBundles]

Yea that's what I think too ... trying to find out if there is an alternative

[@AWOL1969]

Water slide transfer then bake or porcelain paint pens then bake or Cricut etc… vinyl cut letters and cover with food safe epoxy. Hope this helps.

[@brendafogerty1685]

Where do you get the paper you shrunk around the mug?

[@DesignBundles]

You can find it here it is called Subli Shrink - amzn.to/3OvMqSY

[@brendafogerty1685]

Thank you

[@jamiecrockett5194]

@@DesignBundles how do you get the wrap to not melt. Every time I try using it, from the minutes I set it in, it melts and by the time I'm at 4 minutes or so, it melts holes in the sides... I've got a hard, white, clump (now brown) in my pan. At least that's how it was with my tumblers.

[@brendafogerty1685]

Do you know if an air fryer oven would work in place of a convection oven?

[@Esckelson0187]

Would that be safe?

[@DesignBundles]

Working on the way for it to be safe :)

[@nahnisjourney1406]

I wonder if there is a silicone insert created for the inside of the mugs. Various sizes, of course. If not, that’s something that I think would work well for this process. What do you think?

[@dianaspears4569]

I wonder if it would work if you place a weight on top of the sand

[@vickihartung539]

Me too! Inside of mugs are probably not coated. Cheaper to make the mug that way; and sublimation is normally done on the outside 😉

[@DesignBundles]

Yeaaa I realized it... I am working on making this work ! Not Giving up!

[@cynsationalgirl]

Is this food safe though?

[@DesignBundles]

Trying to find out now... probably that's why it didn't work...

[@terrybarnhill8451]

Is this safe? To drink out of? Chemicals?

[@DesignBundles]

It didn't work. But we used Easy Subli later that is food safe :)

[@dynababe04]

Would it be that the inside is not coated with the sublimation finish?

[@DesignBundles]

Hi Paula! Definitely! I tried it with coating too in different video - check out what happened kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKCQoWSgib6FidU :)

[@mvg6620]

Just a thought, but could it be that the inside of the mug is not sublimatable?

[@DesignBundles]

Yea that's whai I think it is... trying to figure it out now !

[@carolebass4582]

I agree with most of the comments on the post - no sublimation coating on the inside. I doubt if Cricut would do that because the Mug Press isn't intended to print the inside of a mug. Also, it seems to me, I heard that the bottom of the Mug Press does not heat.

[@DesignBundles]

Yea I figured too ! I know you can sublimate inside but I am on the hunt for the ones that have coating! If you see any Carole let me know!

[@tinalee9863]

Bummer, I was hoping it would've worked. Thanks for trying

[@DesignBundles]

You and me both! Thank you Tina!

[@carmenrios7920]

I been a member and I have the option to use Design Scape but never really have because I don’t know how to I have tried but just gave in would be nice to see more videos out there on how to use it

[@DesignBundles]

Noted!

[@sworley1956]

How do we know that the mugs are sublimated on the inside?? I believe that this is the big question. Unless you can confirm tha,t I don't see this ever working

[@DesignBundles]

I think we can confirm my mugs weren't 🙈 I am trying to find out if the coated ones exist...

[@dinaanduha1766]

What if you made mini sand bags to fit in the cup?

[@DesignBundles]

Good idea!

[@Souchak349]

Is there a type of scissor that can cut out round items? would be faster ☺

[@DesignBundles]

That would be great !

[@pineapplegirl8078]

Not sure if it’s okay to post a link so if my last post disappears go to Amazon and look for a “circle cutter”. It’s adjustable up to 12” and cuts circles 😊

[@rogiervdheide]

The inside of the mug is not coated with plastic. So it won't work, do I see that right?

[@DesignBundles]

You are right!

[@kittyrings]

I agree with the other folks here....the inside is not set to be sublimated. However, either is COTTON...we use film right? Why not try it with film? The sand in a bag is good - keeps the mess down. Just a thought.😁

[@DesignOnADollar]

I'm not sure if anyone has suggested putting a paper weight or some kind of weight onto the image and then putting the sand on top of it. Then, wrap the mug.

[@DesignBundles]

Paper weight - interesting :D

[@AWOL1969]

@@DesignBundlesmaybe an all steel “C” clamp? 🗜️ fill the mug 1/2 way with sand, use 2 wooden discs, one for the outside button and one for the inside on top of the sand. Once the 2 disks are in place, apply pressure to the sand by tightening the c clamp 🗜️. Might have to use a special sublimation spray at the bottom of the cup or I’ve seen people use Avery clear page protectors, laminating sheets that are sticky on one side. If you were to cut one of the sheets into a circle that would fit in the bottom of the cup, sticky side dow, then your printed sublimation paper face down, sand, wood disk then c clamp 🗜️. Tighten till secure and place into oven for 80 min at 400 degrees. You might have to test the time and temp.

[@jennloccisano1799]

Thanks Dawn 😊

[@LorraineCastellon-Rowe]

In the thumbnail picture, you have the inside sides sublimated. Is that just a mock up picture? Or did you actually sublimate the inside sides?

[@DesignBundles]

That is just a mockup

[@salliehanco]

I also think it’s that the inside of cup does not have a sublimation coating. I don’t know if a sublimation coating would be food safe or not.

[@DesignBundles]

I know you can by mugs with color inside so there has to be a way to make it safe I think...

[@evahiebert5058]

Does it work to sublimate in a regular oven? 🤔

[@semperstitchingllc7801]

You wouldn’t want to sublimate in an appliance that you also use to cook food.

[@DesignBundles]

You can use a regular oven but like mentioned below I would make sure I have a separate one for this purpose. Sublimation releases gases in the process. You can wash your mug easily and make it ready to use, with oven it is a bit more complicated

[@donnamgiffen]

What about putting a weight in the bottom

[@DesignBundles]

Hi Donna! What type of weight would you suggest?

[@Lovelyforlife1]

Like people said no poly coat on the inside so pressure does not matter.

[@DesignBundles]

Very true...

[@thewestcoastkraeers]

sand would apply enough pressure so that is not the problem. its definitely not coated for sublimation on the inside, you should do a test using subliglaze

[@DesignBundles]

Interesting! I messaged them to see if it would be safe for consumption...

[@dupescraftingdesign7872]

It would be helpful if you gave us sizes in your videos of the template

[@DesignBundles]

Hi there! We can definitely add more of that information into the videos. Thank you for your feedback! - Dawn

[@bridgebeautystudiollc]

Thanks

[@veea.4936]

I've seen plenty of videos that use the convection oven with just taping the design on the outside of the cup and it working with no extra pressure. I believe it's just not able to be done on the inside unless it specifies it can be done.

[@DesignBundles]

You are probably right

[@connieabner]

I believe the inside is not coated for sublimation. Also, the thoughts about it being a carcinogen or not good safe… if it isn’t food safe they wouldn’t put it on a substrate that is intended to come in contact with your mouth. A lot of things are toxic to you until they are cured. For instance, you aren’t going to lick liquid glazing for ceramics. But after it has cured properly you can use the mugs, bowls and plates that it’s applied to. There may be other issues with a liquid sitting inside a mug that has been coated and cured, but I doubt that as well. There are plenty of other sublimation items that come in contact with food, like plates and trays and such. Sublimation plates are not just for decoration, unless specified. Just my 2 cents! 😊

[@DesignBundles]

Yea there definitely are the products that are safe once cured... working on figuring it out now :)

[@mildredpepe552]

I was also thinking that the mugs might not be coated on the inside. One way to get around that would be to coat the inside of the mug yourself. However, I'm not sure that's safe. My concern is that the solution might contaminate any liquid you would put inside the mug. I read one review on Amazon that said that PolyGloss Sublimation coating is FDA compliant once it has been cured. And then I read another one that said it has not been tested for food safety. I'm not sure what to believe.

[@DesignBundles]

I might have found the solution ! Stay tuned!

[@cherylf7378]

@@DesignBundles Do tell!

[@jdonny45]

I hope it worked

[@Nene_2015]

Hi great video we need a like a branding hot tool that has a circle wide enough to fit the inside of the mugs with cord on top of handle thank u an 💡 👍

[@DesignBundles]

Yes we do That would be so good! Sublimation blanks with coating first though...

[@nadinelopes4789]

I got an heat iron tip for my wood burning tool that is flat and it works.

[@DesignBundles]

I might get it if I figure out sublimation coating inside 🙈

[@denisecooley2505]

There’s no poly coat inside for it to press to

[@juliegayson7947]

Thank k you.

[@liveevents9191]

I believe there is no coating on the inside of the mug. Maybe you could use a poly coating on the bottom and then do it again. Thanks!!!

[@Kelli-u5t]

Maybe cricut should come out with mugs with a nontoxic sub coating on the inside and a hand held heat tool that fits in the bottom. It would be nice if there was a nontoxic coating we could put on and a heat gun would be hot enough. Then we'd just need to transfer the heat through pressure somehow. I'm not mechanical or enginerical 😂 but I'm sure someone in the crafting world can figure it out.

[@LaserGranny]

Try putting the sand in a sock or or cloth bag.

[@DesignBundles]

Good idea ! Gosh that would save me the hassle :) Thank you Teri

[@candicer]

Well a few people already mentioned it. But the inside isn't coated for sublimation.

[@DesignBundles]

Yep, I figured sadly 🥲 You can buy mugs colored inside so I am sure you have to be able to do it ... just on a hunt to figure it out now...

[@mariapolanco6031]

I believe the inside is not coated with sublimation...

[@williamharding8129]

I agree - inside not coated - sublimation treated.

[@DesignBundles]

Seems to be right, trying to figure out how to make it

[@sheilahipp9568]

Wonder if rocks would work 😊

[@DesignBundles]

Interesting idea

[@bethlangley9156]

I don’t know how you gonna hit send hot enough in that amount of time

[@SharonSmithAus]

Perhaps spray the bottom with sublimation spray.

[@DesignBundles]

Perhaps ;) Might be testing it now ;)

[@LouRao]

Good attempt. Where it failed is the inside mug does not have the sublimation coating. All sublimation mugs have a special coating on the outside, not the inside. But, good try😎

[@gerryannbrown9645]

Add Some Rocks maybe, Just an idea. Or put it on outside bottom of the cup and tape it down tight. That being said, I think a few people just posted the correct answers below Thanks Chrystal

[@DesignBundles]

Yea I think sublimation coating is the key but if I figure out how to do it I will definitely try again

[@K.Moazami]

It cannot be sub until it is coated inside the mug. And because the coating is carcinogenic, they don't coat the inside of the mug.

[@DesignBundles]

How do you know it is carcinogenic? Do they publish it somewhere? Just trying to get as many information as possible!

[@K.Moazami]

@@DesignBundles Yes, on some packages containing liquid or spray coating, a warning is written that due to the chemicals that endanger human health, it is better not to apply coating even on the edge of the mug in contact with lips.

[@dizzydesignbylovetipton8598]

There is not a sublimation coating on the bottom of the cup. That's why it does not work it has to be coated

[@salliebaldwin297]

I think that the mugs do not have the sublimation coating on the inside.

[@DesignBundles]

Looks like it!

[@judithlergier3916]

Maybe the inside doesn’t have the polymer for safety.

[@motsetao]

The inside has no polymer coating to accept the dye.

[@SkylarTrotman]

There is no heat being applied to the bottom inside of the mug.

[@janaeaedwards7237]

My thought was another glass filled with sand and taped down for pressure, but still agree that I would'nt drink from it

[@DesignBundles]

There are plenty mugs like these amzn.to/3GK83gq so there has to be a way!

[@mirandaheeck-denboer7568]

Maby when you try it with tape and no sand

[@DesignBundles]

Hey Miranda! We never did find a solution that worked!! We're hoping that sublimation companies come up with a way to cover the whole mug rather than just the outside! - Dawn

[@papamrk1343]

I agree with @stephenantcliff9127 I've watch the CHINESE videos on how they coat the cups and they set the cups on Peg from the inside as they sprayed the outside... So I think you are on the right track though!! Great Video!

[@DesignBundles]

Thank you for watching and for your feedback!

[@tubetimingg]

I don't think it's coated, possibly for safety reasons. 🤔

[@DesignBundles]

That's good thinking, thank you!

[@Nene_2015]

Who ever invents this tool send me a free one to test lol 🤣🤣

[@NettyTheCrafter]

I agree with the others, maybe the mugs are not coated for sublimation

[@DesignBundles]

Yea same! I know you can sublimate inside but I am on the hunt for the ones that have coating! If you see any Annette let me know!

[@TammyThompson-ox4yw]

I doubt that Cricut coats the inside of the mugs with the sublimation chemicals.

[@christiewoods7565]

Maybe they don’t have the coating on the inside of the mug

[@DesignBundles]

Seems like it!

[@BigSister56]

apparently, you have to have a 3D Vacuum Machine to sublimate the botton of mugs also using sand

[@DesignBundles]

Interesting ! That probably helps with the pressure somehow?

[@janayhall]

why Photoshop the pic to get us to watch? would have watched anyways

[@DesignBundles]

It was just a preview to explain what we were trying to achieve 😅 We might not do it next time though seems confusing..

[@lorristory2729]

Usually the inside of the mug is not coated for sublimation

[@DesignBundles]

true. We just published the video with coating though but it didn't work either so pressure is to blame too 🥲

[@createinspain]

It's not the pressure, it's the lack of sublimation coating on the inside of the mug.

[@DesignBundles]

True! We might try with soon ;)

[@maryjanewill3056]

I don't think it's coated on the inside.

[@DesignBundles]

We had the same suspicion! We did try using a sublimation spray but that didn't work for us either. - Dawn 🥰

[@marielletrudeau3510]

Try ball bearings

[@DesignBundles]

Thank you for the suggestion! We have also reached out to some of the sublimation companies for their advice so we will see! - Dawn 🙂

[@leticiaotten1360]

I don’t think the inside of the mugs are coated for sublimation

[@DesignBundles]

Yes!! We also thought this and then tested a sublimation spray on the inside but we couldn't get enough pressure for the design to adhere. - Dawn

[@sharon94503]

***DO NOT USE FOR FOOD/DRINK*** if you attempt to sublimate the inside!

[@alidadebruyn3560]

I use my 3D vacuum press easier and works every time 😁

[@DesignBundles]

Inside of the Mug? Did you do it with Cricut Mugs?

[@alidadebruyn3560]

@@DesignBundles no haven’t tried the cricut ones, I use the sublimation mugs and yes inside the mugs

[@tanyakerr6392]

The insides may not be coated...possibly not safe to drink from

[@DesignBundles]

Was thinking that... or those specific ones don't have coating... I am trying to find out!

[@sandracehowski7179]

Correct the mugs are not coated for sublimation.

[@DesignBundles]

Thank you for your feedback, Sandra and for watching! ⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@MA-ts9qt]

Try a vacuum sublimation machine🤷🏻‍♀️

[@DesignBundles]

Yes! I have seen the video about it it looks incredible! Thank you for the tip 😊 - Agata

[@fatimarazon8407]

I don’t think they’re coated inside which is the actual problem.

[@DesignBundles]

True!

[@jamiecrockett5194]

Thank you for trying this out. I'm fairly new to sublimating so I don't know all the ins and outs but I would think you would not want your drink with the sublimation (because of the gases) so maybe that's why it doesn't have a coating. That aside, for pressure I liked someone's idea of heated rocks. I was thinking about the sand tho, what if the sand was damp or wet. Sand is heavy but wet sand might make it more compact and even heavier. You could always put some parchment paper between your sublimation paper and the sand so it didn't get wet at all. It's just a thought I had as I watched. 🤷 Thank you again for your videos. They are always very helpful. ☺️ Happy Thanksgiving!

[@DesignBundles]

Hi Jamie! Thank you so much. I think that it is not a popular thing to do honestly and a lot of a hassle to put coating inside. I have tried using sublimation coating that is food and drink safe here kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKCQoWSgib6FidU . Check out what happened 😊

[@michellefeliciano5691]

Ok. I saw on you tube how to print your favorite photos inside of a mug but he use a vacuum press . I think that's what it's call . Check it out at Technic Guru . I think the video is a few years old.

[@DesignBundles]

Yea I have seen it ! I think they said mugs are linked in the description but they are not! Ahh if you find them somewhere Michelle let me know!