Suede: Coming Up Again

[@leefr76]

It could be argued the renaissance of Suede over the past 10 years has now made them the best band to come out of Britain over the past 30 years.

[@woutwout8398]

Night Thoughts and The Blue Hour are definitely among their very best albums

[@michaelmacleod6517]

As a proud ex american, i always prefered britpop over grunge. Suede remains great to this day. They are more rock than alot of american bands then. Yanks go home indeed.

[@StellasEncounter]

The first band I ever saw in Beijing, 2011. Better melodies than any Britpop band, imo. Plus that audacious androgynous persona. Great band and great video!

[@2020Sound]

Thanks Stella!

[@frankalcantar2247]

Being a fan of suede since 1994, after Coming up, I lost interest. Then came their Night Thoughts album I was back and since then hoping to see them live, my dream came true November 11 in Hollywood boy that was a great show

[@TheAdArchive]

Bloodsports, Blue Hour and Nigh Thoughts are all stunningly good albums with some truly great songs. If you only check out a few listen to: For the Strangers Flytipping Always Beyond the outskirts Life is golden Outsiders Like kids

[@kayfimt7769]

The Blue Hour was shockingly good, one of my fave albums of the year. They’ve still got it.

[@tallpaul20]

Many Happy memories Searching record shops for suede 12" records just for the B-sides

[@BLUEROOMEXITPRO]

And they continue to release great stuff because their 2 new songs she still leads me on and 15 again are great.

[@pauljacobson2207]

Criminally overlooked? Your Channel!!

[@pushon10]

Their post reunion albums are awesome.

[@Chingfordassociates]

The Asphalt World from Dog Man Star is one of my favourite songs and they put some of their best songs on their b sides as you say. I’ve just finished Brett Anderson’s memoir Afternoons with the Blinds Drawn, he’s a very good writer and very honest about his part in Bernard Butlers alienation. A really good summary video, spot on.

[@2020Sound]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@Nofashists]

Love the 15 min version too

[@jakechat2716]

I haven't read Afternoons With The Blinds Drawn yet. I'm currently reading his other book, Coal Black Mornings. Would you recommend the one you've read?

[@vivianmakri2280]

I have read them both, he is a fantastic writer, a true lyricist, the best ❤️❤️

[@Billy-bd2oe]

Suede, my favorite band of all time... AND yes, their B-sides are amazing, The sound of the streets, is probably my personal favorite Suede B-Side =) I am seeing them live on Mondaaaaaay in Helsingor Denmark(May 9th 2022)... pure joy =) But why skip Head Music, a masterful record!

[@2020Sound]

Enjoy tomorrow's show, Billy!

[@pitmatix1457]

Head music was hit and miss for me. There's crap like Elephant Man on there sure, but also something like Indian Strings which is an absolutely gorgeous song which doesn't get talked about enough.

[@s.wstudioproductions5977]

Great video, Autofiction was my proper introduction to Suede last September, been a fan since, seeing em live in March, can't wait.

[@jakechat2716]

Autofiction was brilliant. My favourite song from it was Drive Myself Home definitely. Me and a mate are also seeing them in March, can't wait!

[@thevoid99]

as an american, i'm baffled into why suede never made it big in the u.s. their work since "bloodsport" is incredible while those first 3 albums they've done are better than anything blur and oasis have ever done.

[@Keeleysound]

Fantastically-written and wonderfully-well delivered analysis on one of my favourite-ever groups, with the most charismatic frontman I've ever seen in my life. A true triumph, thank you x

[@2020Sound]

Thanks Keeley, glad you liked it!

[@spnhm34]

Indulgent, pretentious and beautiful is a perfect description. Whenever anyone asked me who I prefer, Blur or Oasis, my answer never changed: Suede For me, it was never Suede without Butler. His success with David McAlmont was so stellar It’s great to hear that The New London Suede 😉 have recaptured that initial brilliance

[@Fatherjohn76]

Brilliant episode and great points made about not following the cultural narrative and writing off beloved bands too soon. Suffice to say I'm going to be delving into Suede's renaissance this week

[@2020Sound]

Thanks! And enjoy delving! If you're a fan of their earlier stuff (Dog Man Star, especially) I think you'll find it a rewarding listen.

[@gfloyd2002]

Great content and analysis as always, keep up the great work! Just here to pad your interaction stats. :)

[@2020Sound]

Ha! Thanks very much, Kyuzo! 😁

[@Nofashists]

Beatles,Bowie,The Smiths,Suede,The Libertines. Best bands by decade

[@losely451]

Looking forward to my trip to the UK so I can buy Suede records.

[@peterpurpleheartparade5357]

To the birds and my insatiable one are both absolute monsters! I'd love you to do a feature on Verve's A Storm in Heaven or the Puressence debut 👌🏻 Also I'm in a Shoegaze /Dreampop band from Manchester called Purple Heart Parade, I think you may dig what we do. Anyhow, love your vids, take care and all the best

[@2020Sound]

Just given 'Starwheel' and 'Petrichor' a spin - great sound, lovely stuff! If you're a fan of 'A Storm In Heaven', I remember playing on the same bill as a band called Lyca Sleep at the long-gone Jabez Clegg around 2004 and everything about them was so reminiscent of '93 era-Verve: the drums, the dynamics, the guitar sound, even the way they looked. I went digging for them on Spotify last year and was stunned that they're on there - two EPs from 17 years ago. If you get a spare 5 mins, check out the song 'Sold Me A Ride' by them. I think you'll enjoy it.

[@peterpurpleheartparade5357]

@@2020Sound haha no way! Very small world. My first band used to gig with Lyca sleep as we had a similar vibe back in the day and became good friends. They eventually became Exit Calm ( different singer) . Rob the guitarist is doing very well now writing for Mark Lanegan and has his own project Humanist. What was your bands name? I possibly may have gigged/seen you. Thank you regards our tracks also, The Room and Red Rose County always get the ASIH comparisons. Anyhow, love the channel, keep up the top work 👌🏻

[@2020Sound]

Thanks! Wow, so strange the link to Mark Lanegan given what's happened - hope Rob's OK. We were called Burn The Mona Lisa at the time, I think. I'll keep an eye out for your gigs around town!

[@leefr76]

What about a video on Slowdive?

[@wtclifford]

Never been a huge Suede. fan, but I really enjoyed this. Your channel has some choice content! I think in time you’ll have a lot of subscribers. Thanks!

[@2020Sound]

Thanks very much, that's really nice of you to say and glad you enjoyed it!

[@johnpresnell]

I agree!

[@mattvanmantgem8600]

Many things to say, so I'll have to be brief on all- 1. regarding Suede, I didn't really discover them until the "comeback", having been more a fan of Elastica & Blur in the 90's (related- a band that I want to come back is Sleeper in that, for a genre that prided itself on clever lyrics, Louise Wener had some of the sharpest) 2. Regarding Trainspotting- a moment when I realized I was completely on a different tack than my peers was going to see Trainspotting 2 in the theatre, and finding myself the only one there, as even the projector was automatic 3. Sometimes, I think there are machinations that render the "sick boy theory" completely moot- examples are MBV, who never were on the same track as having "it' as the audience was, and similarly The Wrens- while the Whelan brothers were and are more conventional, Charles Bissell is clearly on his own "outsider" obsessive perfectionist track- incidentally The Wrens and new incarnation as Aeon Station would be a good subject for the channel. 4. As for artistic ambition being misread as "pretension"- witness Dutch band Silence is Sexy- only popular in Dutch Indie circles, they re-did their second LP "This Ain't Hollywood" with the Royal Republican Orchestra as "This is Hollywood" and then, did a double LP of experimental chamber pop for the next releases "Modern Antiques" volumes 1 and 2. It's easy to see it as a band over inflating a couple of thousand downloads into thinking they are the Beatles or something, but if you consider where they were coming from as composers, it makes more sense. Likewise, that's how I read Suede- the excess is the whole point, they're trying to be grand, and luxurious as songwriters.

[@2020Sound]

Yeah, that theatricality feels absolutely central to who they are. I imagine you could trace the collective big bang moment of their sound to something like 'Life On Mars?'. The Wrens have been on my mind as a potential future topic, funnily enough! Aeon Station got a great write up in Uncut recently which pushed them further to the forefront of my thoughts. Love the line about even the projector being automatic 😆

[@mattvanmantgem8600]

@@2020Sound Oh, do the Wrens- because they have always trod this unexplored (uncanny) valley path between the "punky" indie and the classic pop way that I find is so very easily misread. Glad to have this channel's content....

[@markph1983]

@@mattvanmantgem8600 Thanks very much, Matt!

[@shaneblaneyseerilydysfunct7663]

Television - Marquee Moon, is an album I managed to only get into last year. Surprised me how close to indie music from the mid 2000s is sounded like. Might be a good album to add to your series which doesn't get talked about enough, for those who never heard it, the full album is on KZbin

[@2020Sound]

Yeah, a lot of those early 00s NME bands definitely copped a few moves either directly or indirectly from Marquee Moon. I remember the press often drawing parallels between Television and The Strokes especially, although I never quite heard it myself. Razorlight are the band I often think of from that era as the group who took a lot from them. Which is still strange to think of, given how commercial they got! I first came across Television in the late 90s when they were still presented as a niche influence. They've probably gone back to being that now. I hear them a lot in a band like Mush these days.

[@TheSomethingWheel]

The latest evolution of my Suede fandom has been discovering that the tail end of Sci-Fi Lullabies is - also - the dog's bollocks. Anderson was getting into the crack and the lyrical themes were starting to repeat to the point of self parody, but there's a great little Suede in between Coming Up and Head Music with stuff like Jumble Sale Mums, WSD and Duchess were they were ripping out these fat, bassy, dystopian sort of tunes.

[@jacko250]

Some albums that have super fascinating backstories that would make for great videos are: Locust Abortion Technician - Butthole Surfers Scum - Napalm Death Metal Box - Public Image Ltd Spiderland - Slint U.F.O. - Jim Sullivan You’ll love researching for all of these, keep up the good work!

[@2020Sound]

Some absolute classics there. As unbelievably packed with landmark albums as 1991 was, I'm surprised the 30th anniversary of Spiderland didn't get a bit more fanfare last year given how influential that album was.

[@jacko250]

@@2020Sound absolutely! Slint + Talk Talk basically set the template for what then became Post-Rock music

[@2020Sound]

Definitely! 'Laughing Stock' - there's another one whose 30th anniversary kind of snuck by.

[@jacko250]

@@2020Sound I know they aren’t in that ‘indie’/‘alternative’ genre bracket that you are focusing on in this channel, but another band from that period, The KLF, have such a bloody hilarious and fascinating band mythology that surrounds them and they don’t get discussed as much as they should do! They were committed performance artists who’s mission statement was to mock the music industry and they succeeded massively, i do have genuinely mad respect for those lads lol

[@2020Sound]

I used to have Bill Drummond's book 45 - fascinating bloke. Love the story of him booking the Bunnymen on a tour around the Hebrides/Scotland in the shape of rabbit ears when he was their manager 😆

[@johnpresnell]

Wow, you’ve piqued my interest in their new work! I remember the hype with their debut, the music press were framing it as a Glam Rock revival; among the bands cited were The Auteurs, whose debut, in my opinion, blew all the others out of the water. I’d like to see you do a feature on them.

[@2020Sound]

If you liked their original run, there's definitely a lot to enjoy in their latter day work. Auteurs: always enjoyed 'Lenny Valentino' (I had it on the original 'The Best Album In The World... Ever!' comp back in the mid 90s 😄). I never really explored but will do eventually. I enjoyed Luke Haines' book on the Brit Pop era - I think it was called 'Bad Vibes'?

[@johnpresnell]

@@2020Sound The Auteurs first album is brilliant, especially the lyrics. Do yourself a favor and check it out!

[@pobstrel]

The Blue Hour is as good as the debut album.

[@shaneblaneyseerilydysfunct7663]

Awesome channel, subscribed, nice to have indie music in discussion. 45 years old and still recording my own form of indie music. If you want to check out some demos on my own channel. "Real to Real" is a new one I done, "Small Talk" "Sum of all parts" "Mr Merry Go Man" are ones I usually promote. They're rough around the edges but they get point across, you just have to imagine them as bootleg versions before the finished product, it's a hobby that I love to upkeep

[@2020Sound]

Thanks for the sub, Shane, I'll check out the tunes - always good to make music!

[@mrshifter5007]

Bands don't have to go on for 500 years like U2 have. Make your point and move on. Like Paul Weller did with The Jam . Finish at your peak, make a mark . Don't have a rear view mirror in your life, move forward. Point being, this band as great as they were should have finished long ago.