Suella Braverman has illegally detained asylum seekers | Tim Shipman

[@magnox72]

The problem is, these people at the top of government believe they are untouchable. Arrests and prosecutions need to be made, so they realise this is untrue. At the end of the day they need to be reminded they are civil servants.

[@markflower3934]

Should put all of them on the first ferry back to France

[@bbbb98765]

Those few dozen Tory MPs who support her must be really slow in the head if she's the best they could come up with

[@lafamillecarrington]

"Another Tory out of her depth" - but they all think that they know better than their advisers and lawyers.

[@ianhollands1641]

Another labour supporter who is more for the illegal immigrants than the british people.

[@bryanfish7303]

"How problematic is it" what? That a minister is willfully breaking the law? Pretty problematic i would say. The way this is being discussed like its all a game shows how most of the media are as out of touch as the mps.

[@petercollins7848]

A lot of these ‘laws’ were drafted before all this flood of economic migrants took place. It is not a ‘law’ like a criminal law, but something that was passed in parliament to deal with a former situation, but it is now getting out of hand due to the sheer numbers of migrants crossing the channel aided by criminals!

[@andrewroberts5259]

Don't detain em, just send the buggers back!!!

[@burpeesandbeard232]

Detaining people before their claim is processed ... what's next trafficking them overseas ...?

[@ThomBoecker]

That's indeed the plan...

[@judvu1926]

RWANDA ?

[@ThomBoecker]

@@judvu1926 Braverman would happily send them to the war zone in Ukraine if all else fails.

[@john_in_phoenix]

Wait until you get 3 million in 2 years, then point fingers.

[@ThomBoecker]

@@john_in_phoenix Where'd you get these numbers?

[@natsohigh5552]

Absolutely hilarious that you're using terms like "illegal" for Braverman, but leave out the term when it comes to the people arriving on a dinghy 🥴

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

She's driven a coach and horses through ministerial rules, not once but at least twice. She is still under investigation, as is BoZo.

[@kelvinpell4571]

You mean the asylum seekers that have passed through several countries to get to Britain specifically? They are economic migrants and it is not the UK'S responsibility to provide for them. Once safety is reached they cease to be asylum seekers......having found asylum......benefits? That's another story.

[@amjid300]

It seems obvious Sunak kept her in so he could repay her supporting him but then embarrass her and have cause to sack her so the right of the party couldn’t complain. Similar to how Starmer did with Rebecca Long Bailey to purge the left of the party from Labour.

[@RobBCactive]

It's more obvious that Sunak is out of his depth, he's shown poor judgement over many issues already in 1 week and mislead parliament.

[@emadabuelrub1125]

Immigration against immigration

[@philiphowell1505]

Who is she selling secrets to.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Sunak appoints her and gets the credit with the right. Sacks her and gets credit with the sane.

[@tushars4038]

This is useless, if she is breaking British or International Laws & then take her to COURT instead of making political statements.

[@sylviaball3874]

Get it right. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

[@sandgrownun66]

Illegal economic migrants to be precise.

[@cupguin]

The Tory government, under whom these problems are getting worse incidentally, are spending billions each year instead of just processing claims like normal countries. Even if you're fine with billions spent because the Tory governments can't get their job done you shouldn't be fine with the current cost of living crisis which is being made worse by a lack of skilled workers, many of whom are currently being paid by the government not to work rather than working and paying taxes. But since it's currently fashionable to say horrible things why care about any of that when lies and fear mongering are the best bet the Tories have at retaining seats?

[@pauln6803]

I've been saying it's nothing more than a (very expensive) distraction ever since the Rwandan deportation scheme was announced. Ignoring the cost and the obvious cynical attempt to appeal to the GBeebies crowd, I'm getting increasingly concerned about the constant attacks on people's human rights and freedoms in this country.

[@yt.personal.identification]

If there is a lack of skilled workers, then who exactly is the government giving money to? They don't exist...that's why they are lacking. Am I missing something here?

[@cupguin]

@@yt.personal.identification from the first result off Google the first paragraph: Tens of thousands of asylum claimants are staying in approximately 200 hotels, alongside an unknown number in hostels. With asylum-related hotel provision rising amidst a mounting case backlog and record dinghy crossings, the cost of such hotel accommodation to taxpayers is nearly £1.3 billion per year - over a billion more than the forecast of up to £70 million that was issued by the government in March 2021. The result is that private sector providers are now being handed ever-ballooning amounts of taxpayer money - over and above even their substantial 2019 contracted amounts - to place asylum seekers into hotels, at an estimated cost of nearly £4,300 per asylum seeker per month. That is 1.5 times the average monthly pay for an NHS nurse (£2,782). That's the cost. It's growing as the backlog of unprocessed claims grows. While you're waiting as a claimant you can't work legally. Do you honestly not understand how this system works?

[@yt.personal.identification]

@@cupguin So it's a complaint about the failure to process asylum seekers. It wasn't exactly clear.

[@freddavis3821]

Why are they seeking asylum when they are coming from France?

[@ThomBoecker]

One reason is they have family in the UK. You'd do the same if you had to flee your home country and knew there are relatives in foreign countries. Simple as that.

[@freddavis3821]

@@ThomBoecker I don't think you understand the question !

[@pauln6803]

@@Northstander The Rwanda policy is a cynical play for the idiot vote and a massive waste of tax payers money that could be better spent elsewhere.

[@ThomBoecker]

@@freddavis3821 Oh? Well, in case I missed out on the subtle, nuanced sarcasm in your question, just call me spoilsport. On the other hand, if you were serious, you may want to visit Afghanistan or Iraq and then come back and tell us if you still have the same question.

[@royboy1901]

@@Northstander as you know so much ,are the laws of illegal entry to a foreign country that is not your own suspended. when you say you want to claim asylum.because I’m sure if I entered a country other than my own I would be arrested immediately held in jail and as soon as my case was heard I would be deported and told to apply for asylum ,isn’t that how it works .travelling without documents is illegal in europe

[@julianshepherd2038]

So is Suella like Andrew and above the law ?

[@californiadreamin8423]

She is above the Official Secrets Act.

[@brendatenorio5721]

If she is beset with problems n resigns for negligence and/or incompetence how can she have a deep bench. And if she retains a deep bench after all that, and if she has power to exert from backbenches, it illustrates the Tories are history.

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

She was only made a QC, as a "courtesy" when appointed Attorney General. 😐

[@dianamincher6479]

A gross diminution of the designation QC.

[@DW-dd4iw]

KC now? King Charles III

[@chobblegobbler2536]

Maybe don’t conduct government business on WhatsApp!!!!

[@colintuffs568]

Sulla- it is said that the person who is her own defence in court has a fool for a client .good luck when you meet your incarcerated clients .

[@maheshgogoi]

Small's appointment bring lots of sweat to Richi in near future. She throw cold water over Richi's volatile campaign.

[@peterteagleteagle9958]

We need someone who's going to get the job done

[@nickbarton3191]

Couldn't happen to a nicer minister

[@salemalnuaimi602]

Suella Le Pen

[@sandgrownun66]

You would say that, wouldn't you, Saleem.

[@salemalnuaimi602]

@@sandgrownun66 awww supporting an Indian fame qst Africa to stop non whit immigration in your country Clutching and straws

[@sandgrownun66]

@@salemalnuaimi602 Can you write that in English. Or don't you know how to?

[@fredmcveigh9877]

Dear Prime Minister, It is with the greatest regret that I am choosing to tender my resignation. Earlier today, I sent an official document from my personal email to a trusted parliamentary colleague as part of policy engagement, and with the aim of garnering support for government policy on migration. This constitutes a technical infringement of the rules. As you know, the document was a draft Written Ministerial Statement about migration, due for publication imminently. Much of it had already been briefed to MPs. Nevertheless it is right for me to go. As soon as I realised my mistake, I rapidly reported this on official channels, and informed the Cabinet Secretary. As Home Secretary I hold myself to the highest standards and my resignation is the right thing to do. The business of government relies upon people accepting responsibility for their mistakes. Pretending we haven't made mistakes, carrying on as if everyone can't see that we have made them, and hoping that things will magically come right is not serious polities. I have made a mistake; I accept responsibility: I resign. It is obvious to every one that we are going through a tumultuous time. I have concerns about the direction of this government. Not only have we broken key pledges that were promised to our voters, but I have had serious concerns about this Government's commitment to honouring manifesto commitments, such as reducing overall migration numbers and stopping illegal migration, particularly the dangerous small boats crossings. It has been a great honour to serve at the Home Office. In even the brief time that I have been here, it has been very clear that there is much to do, in terms of delivering on the priorities of the British people. They deserve policing they can respect, an immigration policy they want and voted for in such unambiguous numbers at the last election, and laws which serve the public good, and not the interests of selfish protesters. I am very grateful to all of my officials, special advisers and ministerial team for all of their help during my time as Home Secretary. I especially would like to pay tribute to the heroic policemen and women and all those who work at Border Force and in our security services. To oversee Operation Bridges - the largest policing operation in a generation - was a great honour and I am grateful to have had the opportunity to serve. I wish my successor good luck. Yours sincerely, Rt Hon Suella Braverman KC MP

[@salemalnuaimi602]

The KC title kills me I've been a barrister for 20 years and this woman never practiced once in the UK

[@RobBCactive]

@@salemalnuaimi602 Honourary title given to Attorney Generals

[@RobBCactive]

That letter is lying! The truth is out and it's more evidence of her deliberate wrong doing.

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

Gove rocked up on Kuenssberg, defending her, rather badly.

[@iffler2542]

When did the times turn into the guardian?

[@ianhollands1641]

You 've noticed as well! I 've been thinking on those lines for some time.

[@cupguin]

Because only the Guardian would bring up illegal detentions...that's definitely not a death knell of democracy.

[@julianshepherd2038]

@@cupguin GB News will cover it.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Tim Shipman works for the Sunday Times.

[@iffler2542]

@@cupguin 'Illegal'. Seems that's a word only use when it suits the agenda of the person using it.

[@andrewcockburn7484]

No wonder these people want to limit judicial review.

[@matthewwalker2281]

Failed upwards!!

[@edbaker515]

Who is this guy ...... We have a migration crisis.....and we need action now and not wet wet solutions......£2billion a year bed on bed breakfast

[@bbbb98765]

Then you need someone who isn't terrible at her job, right? That's what he called out, and he's right.

[@julianshepherd2038]

If the government don't like the law then they can change it. It's what they are well paid to do not to break the law.

[@christopherblackburn6811]

If they processed the claims quicker then they wouldn’t have to pay billions of pounds but that requires investment in public services and takes immigration out of the papers. So it isn’t going to happen anytime soon.

[@chelloandra]

UK has a crisis ??? yeah maybe stop blowing billions on defence - maybe stop the WAR"S R US UK …. maybe reconsider your BIG ECONOMY LETS LEAVE EU - bunch of idiots UK

[@nickbarton3191]

Then process them. A lot cheaper than 2 billion. The Home Office is run by an incompetent.

[@marvintpandroid2213]

Send in the police and remove her from office and put her in jail.

[@SheilaTitchener]

for goodness sake she was put in the job to sort it out! ! the rest of them should keep their noses out. she wasn't even in the job when this detention centre was set up so how can they blame her for what's going on there?

[@ec7696]

Who supports these muppets?

[@cobbler40]

Why have they all got their thumbs up ? Who tells them to do that ? Trump !

[@DJFAmenHeavy]

Good on her. Ship them back

[@nigelsynnott7344]

How can they be shipped back, taking into account international maritime law and sovereignty? Answers on a postcard, emblematic of the depth of thought put into your post?

[@sandgrownun66]

@@nigelsynnott7344 Well. You can look after all those thousands of fighting age males, who abandoned their families, can't you, Nige.

[@nigelsynnott7344]

@@sandgrownun66 Instead of making silly comments, you could always address real solutions to the problem. That would, however, involve critical thinking, not something Brexiteers are renowned for.

[@sandgrownun66]

@@nigelsynnott7344 Nige, what's inaccurate about what I wrote? Also, are you anti-democratic too?

[@nigelsynnott7344]

@@sandgrownun66 What's accurate about what you wrote is the more relevant question. Why do you think I'm anti-democratic?

[@diorocks5858]

well done send them any place but here we don't have frigging homes

[@paulinskipukprogressive4903]

and who’s fault is that, genius ? they’ve been in power for 12 years

[@wayneford2481]

Companies complain of staff shortages and you want to send them away.

[@diorocks5858]

@@wayneford2481 there's not a shortage of people there's a shortage of good pay...English people cant survive living 30 people in one room. We demand our human rights and won't let the government demine us anymore. send them back..we don't have even frigging homes

[@riffraff9506]

What are frigging homes?

[@pauln6803]

Perhaps if the government were to discourage the already wealthy from buying multiple properties for rent or speculation and enforce their policy for new affordable housing projects instead of taking large donations (bribes) from property developers and overriding local planning authorities so the developer doesn't have to build the set quota of "affordable" housing, then folks who don't earn £70k+ could actually afford a house.

[@sigmaputin6888]

Get rid of the lot of them

[@samcarena4702]

Let's get rid of you, it would be much easier and better, your first class ticket to Rwanda is in the post, good bye and please don't come back

[@christopherblackburn6811]

We can’t till there is a general election.

[@sylviaball3874]

They are not being detained They are free to go back to where they come from.

[@billcheema9254]

Love it, Brava Brava

[@ThomBoecker]

Sure. If it were like that, why are they held in cells?

[@sylviaball3874]

@@ThomBoeckerIf they said they wanted to go back to their homeland they would be given a ticket. This country full up.

[@ThomBoecker]

@@sylviaball3874 Nope, they wouldn't. They're regarded as criminals, remember? And criminals must appear in court and be sentenced. THEN they can be deported. In the meantime, they spend their days in what the gvt calls detention facilities.

[@yt.personal.identification]

I am not sure the word "free" applies to refugees. That's why they are refugees. It isn't that complicated.

[@plweis7203]

Send them all back.

[@francesday2820]

Suella Braverman is just what this country needs.These so called asylum seekers have travelled through many safe countries to get to this welfare gravy train which used to be called Great Britain.Taxpayers are sinking under a burden of supporting an inexhaustible stream of foreigners of whom we know nothing looking for free housing free food free education free healthcare and free legal help, and goodness knows what else.These virtue signalling drips on this article make me sick.

[@billcheema9254]

100% agree

[@pauln6803]

And yet the government want to spend even more money deporting them to Rwanda than it would cost to keep them here.

[@lorenzobianchini4415]

You don't know what you are talking about clearly a racist

[@davidtracey5471]

I would bet good money that you consider yourself a Christian.

[@sgwh2002]

Do you have unicorns in the fantasy world you appear to be living in?

[@anthonysmith4826]

Pack them all off to Antarctica .

[@nickagnew965]

the only reason the woke liberals are getting worked up about her is because she does not support their mad ideas. we need a woman like her in charge of the home office.

[@samlee3039]

So do you think being against illegal detention - by a cabinet minister, no less, is being woke? Really? Believing in the rule of law is "woke"?

[@peace-now]

@@samlee3039 Being woke means caring about people. It is the way of Our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

[@philiprussell1262]

detain the albanians only or all of them for 'processing'?

[@ThomBoecker]

Detain Braverman for breathing...

[@davidnichol6282]

This action will be a huge vote winner.

[@bbbb98765]

For Labour. Even her own side are after her. She'll be brought down again.

[@happystarhappystar1477]

@@bbbb98765 Nobody wants umpteen asylum seekers except idiots

[@petercollins7848]

We all make mistakes don’t we. The chaos of the last few months has, I am sure, addled the brains of quite a few in government and Parliament. What we want now is stability and an end to all this merry-go-round in government. The Opposition of course love to stir it all up in the hope of bringing the government down so that they can get into power and get their snouts in the trough! Their friends in the media just love it all too, and nit pick and search for any and all means to criticise and embarrass ministers or the government! There is no such thing as ‘illegally detained’ asylum seekers. They are ‘illegally’ here! A lot of these people are criminals who have come here to establish crime gangs and others mainly are economic migrants. They are not ‘asylum seekers’ as they have come from France, a perfectly free and safe country! Regardless of how competent Braverman is, the basic situation remains - that we are being invaded on a daily basis by foreigners who have no right to be here!

[@machidaman]

Tory party member ☝️

[@nigelsynnott7344]

Firstly, they are not "illegally here". Under the UN Convention on Refugees, to which we're a founding signatory, refugees can claim asylum in any country of choice, regardless of countries transited en route. Secondly, according to the Home Office, only a small proportion may be economic migrants. 72% of asylum claims are allowed at first application, and of those who then appeal, half are then allowed. So, at best 20% may be economic migrants. Thirdly, what's your source for your claim that "a lot of these people are criminals who come here to establish criminal gangs", apart from your fevered imagination?

[@petercollins7848]

@@nigelsynnott7344 They are not ‘refugees’! Refugees from France? It is all a racket. They come here because the pickings are better here than in Europe probably, otherwise they would not come would they? ( socialist + lifelong Union man).

[@nigelsynnott7344]

@@petercollins7848 In the real world, benefits in France are higher than UK ones, so that's unlikely to be the draw. Language, family ties and our reputation (until recently) for stable govt and legal system are the draws, plus post-colonial hangbacks.

[@petercollins7848]

@@nigelsynnott7344 Just read the News! Albanian criminal gangs and drug dealers for a start! Also they are economic migrants not ‘refugees’. So many are coming from countries that have no war etc.

[@martinwilliams4759]

We in England love her they should be locked up if you don't like it don't come

[@samcarena4702]

I wish you could locked up

[@bbbb98765]

Wrong. Even most Tories recognise she's a numbskull. Regardless of one's views on immigration, she's a liability because she's just plain incompetent

[@ianhollands1641]

They have entered the country illegally. Until they can be properly identified they surely cannot claim asylum and therefore must be detained. As they have just come from a safe country, France, they cannot have any grounds for claiming asylum.

[@julianshepherd2038]

This is Britain. We do things legally. If the government does not like the law, they can change it. They don't break the law, we aren't pirates ffs.

[@dianamincher6479]

Please be obsessed about the deportations?

[@AG-qc8ek]

@John Emmert I wish they keep coming here by the millions just to stick it to the far right! It's a beautiful country and I will actively encourage and teach everyone to migrate to it. And the hilarious part is that brexit not only didn't stop all migration, but it also as it turned out has destroyed the UK economy, meaning the only way back to growth is "Brinter" back to Europe and the single market. And by the way, in fact we actually in short of more migrant workers for any hope of economic recovery 😉

[@bcanuck]

If you like them so much why don't you move to africa, asia or the middle east?

[@ianhollands1641]

You really are a sick individual to want to destroy our nation.

[@joecater894]

its NOT sustainable... it would collapse our economy and force people to actually vote for the right you hate so much... is that what you want.. so that you can fulfil some kind of ideological idealism.... a kind of self righteousness without any consideration for logic or practicality... ? People expect road, hospitals, school and houses... those things wont work if we have unlimited migration into the UK... and when that happens the political situation will swing as mid Britain get hacked off with it... you will see extreme right wing parties coming to power.. there has already been a shift in that direction in Italy because of their own problem with uncontrolled migration.... if migration carries on it will not "stick it to the far right" ; it will however empower them and recharge them... which is actually what they want..... power.

[@keithmilburn4866]

NEVER TRUST A TORY !!!!!!

[@billcheema9254]

Brava, Brava, good on her, we love her!!

[@californiadreamin8423]

Shame on you.

[@samcarena4702]

You should be ashamed

[@dianamincher6479]

Braverman is incompetent and dense!

[@dianamincher6479]

Put Michael Gove in as Home Office Secretary!

[@andrewrobinson2565]

What does "to cheem" mean?