The Biggest Trail Braking MISTAKE in Racing

[@SuellioAlmeida]

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[@GDIBass]

Hey, that’s me! Dude THANK YOU for the session. This hurtled me past a plateau. My iRating has jumped a ton, I’ve gone up two licenses since this session. I honestly can’t wait to try this in real life, too… thank you thank you thank you.

[@SuellioAlmeida]

Thank you for the trust!!!

[@yannis22666]

What kind of pedals are you using? I’ve got sprints and I have to use a ton of effort to get to 100% and you seem to be hitting that trivially.

[@GDIBass]

@@yannis22666 I have the CSL DDs with the load cell pedal. It defaults to 30% pressure (and resets there even if you update it).

[@GDIBass]

@@oppenheimer11 Suellio has the pricing up on his site! Check it out.. totally worth it!

[@precutrumble9203]

do you mind if i ask what your name is? i help my dad do specE46 racing as well, maybe ive seen you before lol

[@hotmetalslugs]

Dude. I just did most of what you showed this guy, for about an hour. Just shaved 1sec off my time on Barcelona. Good teacher.

[@landiahillfarm6590]

Dont know if this will help anyone but... lessons learned. Like our driver here I was treating the brake pedal like an ON/OFF switch. When rFactor came out and I got a new set of pedals, I found I could adjust brake pressure settings, either in game or through the pedal controller. I also cut a small rubber handball in half and stuffed it behind the brake pedal making it so if I wanted 100% pedal I REALLY REALLY had to push it HARD HARD. Like so hard I hard to find a new way to brace the pedals so they wouldn't slide. What I found, just like in this video, I was no longer going 100%-0% any more, but 80% and could now SLOWLY back off the brake. And with that came the true feeling of trail braking and rotation. Suellio does a masterful job of explaining it, but once you FEEL it, your driving will never be the same. GREAT video.

[@CatchiestWorm12]

One thing you do as a teacher I picked up on is you're careful in the beginning not to demonstrate anything. You watch, then explain the concepts using Paint, then let the student go out and do it and coach them. You don't open a stream and go "do it like this" they have to go out and feel the concepts you're explaining affecting the car in real-time. Very interesting.

[@essianenelson6545]

That’s how proper coaching should look like in EVERY domain

[@SHMITGAMINGINC]

Your maturing into an excellent coach. You can articulate the information very well and demonstrate good communication while exercising patience. Cheers

[@erikhany4486]

When my mates try my rig, they brake exactly like this guy did in the start of the lesson. When I then show them how to use the brakes to turn, it’s like they just discovered plutonium by accident. 😊 When I understood this myself, back in the days, I went from iR 1500 to 5300 in just a 100 races or so. So yes, you are damn right. Good teaching from you. 👏👏

[@davidmann1871]

I got goose bumps when you turned him loose and he drove so much better. Not perfect, but massive improvement already! It's great to see that.

[@vam120thegamer4]

i feel like suellio is give out golden nuggets for free. keep up the good work!

[@tdhitchins]

Great vid. I thought I knew trail braking and I kinda did but the way it’s explained here with the exercises etc has been really useful. Thanks!

[@podladog0075]

It's so awesome to see someone connect the dots in their head and their reaction to how the changes affect the car. Them seeing it and feeling it for the first time is such a cool experience.

[@bit-eki]

'' you're unlocking a new precision range now'' this sentence resonated with me. ive been practicing rotating the car with my breaking constantly for the last 6 months now , its started to pay off, i know realize i have been heavy with my steering imputs. definitely going to practicing all this from now on. Thank you for the session

[@AdamB5000]

As someone who has gone from 2-1/2 seconds off pace in a slow car to 5K iRating in a slow car, I can understand and sympathize with this driver's struggle to break old habits. It took me years. Trying new techniques while breaking old habits is a long journey. I can see how a teacher would expedite things.

[@GDIBass]

@@AdamB5000 that’s exactly why I got the session. I hit a plateau and knew I was doing something wrong, but didn’t know how to figure it out. As you can see Suellio spotted it immediately, and hurtled me past my plateau. Worth every penny!

[@AdamB5000]

@@GDIBass I've been thinking about a coaching session for a while. I'm too stubborn. :D It was enjoyable listening to this session. Really cool. I'm glad you guys shared it.

[@crewx8765]

suellio honestly teachs me so much it would be a dream for him to come visit or race in australia

[@samdajellybeenie14]

I'd love to see him drive a Supercar.

[@Faffel]

Always nice to see a receptive learner make big leaps like this. Fun watch, even if I already went through this on my own.

[@peadookie]

Well said

[@SamToulouse]

This is ridiculously good. I thought I knew how to trail brake, turns out I did not, I did not even know how to brake. After watching the video last night, I gave it a try today, I already shaved .5 secs on Hungaroring (after 5 laps) and 1 sec on Spa but more importantly, I did it with no stress, not even trying to be fast. So many videos on YT pretending to teach trail braking or even braking but not actually explaining properly how it is done (and often being misleading). You gained a new fan and I am getting your book.

[@GDIBass]

Honestly that was one of the biggest things for me. My driving before was so frenetic. Slamming the brakes turning in, etc etc. Very little nuance and elegance. This new technique shifted that completely in an hour. It feels SO much better, too.

[@supercededman]

Fantastic, Coach! I'm a console racer, on GT7 mainly, but this is still very relevant to we plebs. Thankyou!

[@lithium9mm]

This is EXACTLY what's going on with me, massive massive help! Gotta practice way more but thanks for sharing this!

[@eftubeyou77]

Thx dude the "light hand" tip helped me a lot (both lap time and wrist pain) - hope you'll have tutorial on ACC

[@daveyanderson6166]

I Love watching teachers do their thing. I also love Sim racing and teaching. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@moristar]

Man, you're such a good teacher! Thanks for sharing those subtle nuances for us newbies!

[@arcticpenguin.]

I would love to see what Suellio thinks about the new gt7 update, supposedly making it more realistic

[@hoyinwang9340]

True !!

[@ducka0f]

same 👍

[@JVCIstvan]

And it is more realistic 😇😇

[@jm-oq4sy]

I would love to see this also. Please make this happen!

[@ItzDmz]

Trail braking actually = track time now

[@zergdip6041]

Thank you for this breakdown! Before I saw this technic more like an asphalt alternative to the brake-drift or induced oversteering in rally. Now I see that this is not the same. Although I am trail-braking all the time since I got my G25 many years ago (and even earlier as I could set up keyboard input filters in RBR to avoid the "switch-braking") I did not realize all the benefit of utilizing that slight 1% braking when going around the corner. I will practice this first thing next time I am driving. Would be nice to hear/see some elaborative geometry-wise desiccation on the front tires behavior.

[@TheWildSlayer]

Wow I just came across this video, his transformation when he hit the low% brakes and realized this is a technique he unlocked was such a joy to watch, good shit teach!

[@dennisparker505]

Omg thank you even watching this video help me realize my issue causing my driving to hit a Plateau.Said mistake was using the same amount of brake and braking technique for every content instead of taking in consideration of how fast I’m going. Btw keep up the great work with your racing and teaching it really helped me. And I’m hoping to be a professional driver in real life but I don’t have a lot of money so I have a belief of becoming a pro in aim racing first

[@doriftosimon]

Dude, I‘m deeply impressed of how you can transport information. Awesome video, thanks for sharing!

[@trentthomas1635]

You've got a new subscriber. I have over 4k irating but haven't raced in 2 1/2 years so feel like I'm starting from scratch again.

[@Derek_Lark]

Wow, great explanation. Time to go practice some new habits and break some old ones.

[@garrycross]

Awesome stuff here. It's something I learned by myself over the years. I race Nascar and tracks like Marty and New Hampshire sometimes you brake past half way around the corner always gradually lifting the brake to get the nose to turn.

[@itsmydamnation6158]

im hardly a good sim racer , but one thing i have always done in cornering is always slightly tap the breaks before turn in and it makes a huge difference. I probably break very much like this guy but I wait to get on the power or hold a low throttle mid corner. Where it all falls apart is when really trying to push , the margin for error becomes far to small because you carry so much speed into mid corner , go way to deep and now your going way slower then when you aren't trying to trying fast.

[@JFrogy]

I'm scared of how that guy was driving in real life now

[@moriskehl5991]

Probably much slower you dont go full speed and full brake in real life

[@elifarrow1781]

Yeah when you're not trying to slow down from 200 to 50 as fast as possible you aren't ever hitting 100% brakes. Imagine if everyone slammed the brakes that hard at red lights, exits and roundabouts 😂

[@venunix]

⁠@@paarkerbro i am a proffesional karting driver and i can tell u tath everything tath suelio says its true so now come and tell me -no it is not the same- so please shut up because the other ones are probably fester than you

[@theKashConnoisseur]

Real car brakes aren't anything like (most) sim brakes. In a real car, actually braking to 100% pressure takes a decent amount of force. In real race cars, it can actually exceed the average person's leg strength. As such, you have a much greater range of braking pressures available when compared to a sim rig's pedals. As for trail braking, unlocking that knowledge won't do anything for open road driving where you're never (legally at least) driving the car to it's limits. But for track driving, it's certainly a vital part of the driver's toolbox.

[@venunix]

@@theKashConnoisseur in some cars but mosts cars not

[@BigRoddyMan]

Oh man, this guy is literally me. But it's so difficult to break the habit and process an extra input. Takes a ton of technique and concentration at first, I just gotta put in the work

[@ItsDaveSanders]

Damn. You broke this down so well. This was really helpful.

[@gabe_C09]

suellio's classes + dinner = best thing ever

[@Pre_Boom_bescent]

Lol, sitting with breakfast and watching. 9am in South Africa .

[@samdajellybeenie14]

Perfect meal time videos

[@marcusmiller8267]

OK, so I'm thinking his braking is too peaky. He is using too much pressure in the zone when more grip should be used in the turning phase. This is as of the 1:05 mark. Edited: YES! I think I'm learning! As usual, your lesson is way more useful and detailed than my simple description. I'm kind of proud that I had the idea though, because when I started your courses and your books I was exactly that guy.

[@nosmonkey_69]

Hey suellio firstly I want to thank you for your channel you have lit a new fire in my driving. But I still feel my biggest issue is what he was talking about with correcting the extra rotation instead of using it. Is there a technique I can practice for this or is it just a tell my brain to do it thing?

[@Slimscribe]

When he said wow after that first success on the last corner it sounded so satisfying.

[@Unknownuserlmao]

Do ur tips work for other simracing games like gran turismo 7? I would get iracing but its very expensive and I idk if im skilled enough for that game

[@astergabe]

yes bro, its car physics and not iracing only physics, if the game is realistic, it will work

[@Unknownuserlmao]

@@astergabe ok thanks

[@RedClaw8605]

I'm a test driver, where one test is up to 80 mph and one test is up to 100 mph, but none of the test modules are racing related. However, to drive some of the higher hp cars and reach a higher level ranking, we have to drive a "certification" course to evaluate our driving skills with guys that drive the course every day. It's really just a way of placing a preferred person in the driver seat, but I digress. It's a cone course with curves, a couple chicanes, decreasing radius curves and a hairpin turn. While I can get through the course without knocking over a cone, I'm nowhere near as fast as the guys {the evaluators} that drive it every day. It's also a situation where there's no practice time. But the advice and instruction you gave in this video and how it helped your student was amazing, and I really see how it can be applied to any track or course.

[@copelandtaylor8851]

“Brain real estate” genius. I’ve always felt like when I focus on one aspect of my racing the other aspects take a big dip. Genius never thought about it like that

[@wiegraf9009]

This is a great example of coaching. Awesome work.

[@rakeparts7573]

Que vídeo e aula top! A explicação do freio "chapado no topo" e a indicação de que é melhor aumentar a força máxima do freio é excelente. Posso utilizar esse vídeo como uma referência?

[@benjisandk]

When your breaking goes to 100% that quickly and that easily I would definitely start looking at your brake settings and initial configuration setup. 😊

[@Miodec]

So, why not recalibrate his brake since he was thinking he was releasing (but wasn’t)? I get the idea of “you might not be able to do it in real life, get used to it” but increasing the brake force would make it so much easier for him so much quicker because it would give him more range. Unless he was using potentiometer brakes? (The students hardware would be a nice thing to include for us, the viewers)

[@sampic_]

Honestly, changing my brake setup is something I would do after my lesson. I wouldn't want to lose time when it's something that I can account for by myself.

[@samdajellybeenie14]

I'll bet he was on potentiometer brakes given how easily he could go from 0-100%, like it was instant. And his 1% brake pressure is like 30% in the sim. On potentiometer pedals it's basically impossible to just do 1% consistently.

[@theKashConnoisseur]

Suellio isn't simply a sim driver, and his student in this case also drives in real life. You can't just jump in any car and tune the brake pedals to your liking. But also, teaching in a way that doesn't require setup changes makes the lessons more universal to the viewers, who have many variations of sim rigs from the most realistic to the most affordable. So regardless of what hardware the viewer has, the lesson is still applicable.

[@GDIBass]

I did actually adjust my pressure in the end, but not adjusting it was good practice for the race car. The brake pedal is generally softer than the sim.

[@meekrab9027]

Yes in the ideal world the brake pedal would be as firm as you can use for a whole stint / race without fatigue because it gives the most modulation range, but it would also require remapping the student's entire muscle memory while trying to learn a new technique, which is far from ideal. One change at a time.

[@MixedRealitySimRacing]

I think he needs to make the brake less sensitive so it's easier for him to stay away from 100 and easier to not overshoot the very slight trail braking. Of course you can re-learn but who knows maybe his current max is just 30kg and he is braking 60kg. Seeing Fanatec on the car he might have ClubSport V3 pedals with the default BRF (Brake Force) setting of 50 which would be just 30kg (ok for most games) but in iR a BRF setting of towards a 100 would be more ideal.

[@georgegalea1937]

I’m very impressed with your level of maturity and knowledge. You make a lot of sense while being modest. Your appearance does not reflect your wisdom and I mean that in a nice way.

[@IcedFireboy11]

Hi Suellio, I know you probably won’t see this but I just wanted to say these videos are very valuable! One of the previous videos let me connect the dots with notes taken from the motor racing book about the 4 stages of learning a new car/track combo. It finally clicked! These videos are awesome, keep up the grind!

[@oppenheimer11]

what motor racing book are you talking about?

[@kevinadrian9366]

@@oppenheimer11 Suellio has a Motor Racing Book and a Motor Racing Checklist with these concepts.

[@FreddyGaming]

I am not a good racer, but that guy definitely needed the session as his technique was really rough!

[@RobHz]

I'm so glad for that dude!

[@KD_ux]

I’m a simple guy. I see Suellio upload new video. I hit the like button

[@deathstrike8992]

Mega video. Some great instruction here!

[@albertsiciliano4209]

Great video, this is my real life home track and it was great to have the instruction applied to my actual real life and I racing practice track. BTW it is Summitpoint Main outside of Washington DC, USA.

[@BenTrem42]

0:46 He sure does jam the brakes! Almost as though toggling *_On | Off._* heh ... 1:07 he uses them reasonably!

[@jean-francoislegault7289]

The hardest part for me is when you have to brake hard then trail brake. The fast corner are much more intuitive.

[@RelaxSimmer]

Just connect turning in with releasing the brake and trailbraking. You don't want to have high brake pressure when turning in, without ABS you're just gonna lock your fronts and understeer.

[@theKashConnoisseur]

I just try to make my inputs as smooth as possible. Smooth off the brakes, smooth onto the gas, smooth on the wheel through the corner.

[@arcticpenguin.]

I have gotten the truebrake mod for my g923, but im wondering if its too stiff (20kgs) for my chair, sinceits just a metal folding chair 😂

[@zakooza]

i have pxn v10 , can I made its barakes?

[@aytelonne6866]

as long as, when you brake hard, the seat or pedals move away, its fine i bought the harder spring for my Moza pedal but i also had a folding chair, the peldal set lifted off the ground or i launched myself 10 cm back everytime, i waited until i had a rig to mount the pedals on before using the harder spring

[@Twofivee25]

Wow, i drive just like this dude, but the thing is I play with console controller lol, got really used to relying on abs and its a bad habit

[@ManoFury7]

Great way to teach! what is the name of this track ?

[@TheMDC02]

I’m guessing he’s not trail braking, and overlapping too harshly Edit: I got it half right. I feel like I’m making the same mistakes at times.

[@rage_svk]

Hi Suellio can you make a test on the GT7 new physics, and make a video what do you think about it and how to drive there? :)

[@LowryYT]

10:52 does my boy do rallying? he did a scandi flick there :P

[@c0mpl3x91]

I have a question, I'd like to start sim racing but i do not have big budgets so what would be the recommendations? Like wheels, pedals? Games? Etc?

[@jacksparks9801]

@SuellioAlmeida I personally would love to see how fast you could lap the Nurburgring Nordscheilfe with an F1 car

[@MangaAnimeSekai]

I think I have the opposite problem, I still have to watch the rest of the video but I often have the oversteer on entry like at 9:45

[@natonnaton-ve2in]

the way i learned how to brake properly was by moving my foot down the pedal and almost try kicking the pedal but not to 100% (idk how to describe the feeling). Somehow it worked for me

[@V1N_574]

Hi Suellio, i know in your early days you did a lot of reading, do you have a list of books or reading material that you consider it was very beneficial for your learning curve?

[@mattwilsonracing388]

I think he probably has cheap pedals. Its really hard to modulate brake pressure with the flimsy logitec pedals for example

[@TheSnaveeelPlaysGames]

That’s what I thought

[@zerkinit1057]

lol insane how quick he learned great vid

[@joeroganpodfantasy42]

i have the same problem this lesson is huge

[@xstraffe]

Does the same philosophy applies to front wheel drive cars as well?

[@NACHOMAN_SAVAGE]

So keep breaking while turning into a corner as opposed to coasting? Is this applicable for all turns?

[@marksutherlandjr.2121]

Off Topic but juss an FYI 2024 Porsche TAG Heuer Esports Supercup All-Star Race Our guy Suellio Ameida will be competing in this and I CANT WAIT!! Suellio im trying to talk my boy Davecam into racing this event as well. You should drop a bug in his ear and help us coerce him into doing the event lol.

[@SuellioAlmeida]

This event already happened early this year lol

[@underSTATEDexcellence]

I didn’t see any trailbraking at all on the first lap.

[@lukedeauxilium]

where can i find that brake and throttle graph in ac?

[@allandoc8686]

Subbed. I have a question nobody seems to able to answer. I play on ps5 acc. I have tried the wheels tutorial on fanatec site and you tube. How do I change my wheel to feel the chassis movement so I can practice trail braking. Is this an acc setting or through wheel. Where, which setting to move or even an explanation as to how much the required setting needs to move

[@amildlydisappointingsalad6058]

No way this dude is literally me i have the exact same problem, even to the early turn in

[@floodtheinbox]

Once you understand that the brakes are like a steering effectiveness multiplier the times really start to fall

[@dannyboy4940]

Hello, is it better to have the brake pedal stiff or loose?

[@heracliocamelo9653]

Vc é muito bom. Quando teremos o livro em Portugues?

[@chrisfreed111]

This is a very helpful video

[@hunterh1033]

I'd hate to say I can't believe he immediately went back to 100%'ing the break right after you told him to just drive, but I absolutely can believe it... jesus christ lmao, I could not be a coach.

[@LachlanGB]

Excellent video!

[@Barry.ONeill]

Youd learn that alot practicing left foot braking to make the car slightly slide

[@sp33dou]

Just a fyi: this might be nearly impossible to achieve with G29 pedals as those have slow and inaccurate position sensor.

[@SuellioAlmeida]

I learned trail braking with a G29

[@sp33dou]

@@SuellioAlmeida Maybe I just got unlucky that my old G29 pedal couldn't handle position reporting accurately. Often a quick input to 30% brake could register either as 100% or 0% brake input. And some times a quick 100% input would only register at 10-30%. Also a 10% input would some times fail to register at all. Tried to fix it by tinkering with settings, but after asking local sim community about it everyone said it was quite common for those pedals.

[@SugarHillMotorsports]

No way this is real, bro has a brake toggle switch

[@ghyslaingagnon302]

How do you show the live brake/throttle traces ?

[@KarolSadowski0]

SimHub. im trying to get it to work and i came to the comments for help lol

[@Sickling3]

im trying to follow in ur footsteps and im brand new to this stuff (just the natural knack/love for racing like every other guy) and going from 630s on nordschliefe on a thrustmaster tmx pro entry level setup all the way down to a 610.

[@McWorky]

this finally clicked for me, thank you

[@penapvp2230]

I have no idea if this comment will reach you but I’ve been playing GT7 and I got really good on controller however I suck on the wheel. Could you help me translate my controller driving to wheel?

[@nathancad]

what car is he in?

[@blure434]

My guess is that: he accelerates while there is still breaking, its like writing while still erasing Edit: so wow totally not what i guessed, but a good point, sometimes we need 80 sometimes 75, i also change depending on corners how quickly i release the break

[@UnicornBikes]

I'm top 1% and I still feel like I use brake and throttle as a switch. There's so much you can gain by braking properly. Are there any practice tools out there? Like an app that just rapidly gives you brake percentages that you need to hit?

[@JTheraos]

If you use brake and throttle like a switch, it's impossible to be top 1%. I don't think you understand percentages or statistics.

[@UnicornBikes]

@@JTheraos I understand my elo and the elo distribution graph on lfm tho

[@damiendegrasse]

​@@UnicornBikesACC tolerates bad braking habits a LOT more.

[@CynRacing]

Does this cross over to other sims? ACC likes 100% brakes

[@tomsterbg8130]

So that's what they mean by being smooth, wow! Sadly as a keyboard player i never get to experience that. I've driven karts and even though my time seemed pretty fast it was still some seconds off the top times and i am making the mistake of this guy where i know about trail braking and i kinda do it, but there's like a 90 degree corner after a fast straight which in a kart you can just use 20% brakes and i was thinking if i use full brakes and then use them to turn me in, that'd be faster, unfortunately it was not and i always fear that corner, happily i've never crashed or spun it despite hitting the walls which probably means i am not finding the limit, but i do feel the limit in a different way through the tires since it's irl.

[@TheMineA7]

Would love to see a Suellio and Jarno Opmeer collab. Any pro would be so cool

[@AL.farmlife]

that it fffff setup the load cell to low will make this mistake happen again and again .Thanks

[@skyrim3454]

Thank you, saved me 20 seconds in spa! 🔥🔥 Thank you suelo armadillo ♈♈♈♈

[@skyrim3454]

Omg this guy is so cool fr

[@combatmedic007]

Question for chat Am new to Iracing. Am getting 90-70 rating per race should i grind rating now while am new ? Will sucha huge gains stop after some time ? Or is it based purely on performance.

[@Turbonuotti]

It will get harder to gain as your rating goes up. I am at 3800 and i will usually lose rating if i don't finish top 4 at least. Anything above 2,5k will get you in top split, at least in rookie mx5, have fun! 🎉

[@combatmedic007]

@@Turbonuotti Thank you

[@imeatingnemo4412]

Just upload torontos race 🙏🙏🙏

[@johnsoto7112]

It’s hard to believe he drives like this… There are tons of videos and articles on trail braking.

[@jesper.ordrup]

Pure gold !