Suffer Less by Eliminating 'Meta Suffering' | Bernardo Kastrup PhD, shares his personal story

[@bendybruce]

Amazing conversation. Shortly after the pandemic I was diagnosed with late-stage glaucoma and my eyesight literally started to fall off a cliff. My specialist was scared to operate because my optic nerves were in such bad shape so he tried everything including a number of different laser procedures. In the end nothing would work and I was waking up each morning with my sight being notably worse than it was the day before. It literally felt like my life was over. I had to leave my job I had a battle in front of me with an insurance company and every aspect of my life felt like it had come crashing down all around me. I would go to bed at night fantasizing about ways to end it and hoping I wouldn't wake up in the morning. But even at my darkest place I just couldn't make myself do it. Eventually I was operated on as a last ditch attempt to save what was still left. It was quite the journey. I wake up each morning now just grateful I can still use my computer and pursue a new set of goals in my life. No matter how dark things get, the human spirit has a remarkable talent for finding its way back. I don't see very much anymore but what I still see I hold the deepest gratitude for.

[@Jonte70]

Wow, you’re an inspiration. It really is incredible what the human spirit can manage to go through.

[@Pilgrimsrummet]

Thank you for this testimony.

[@ShirleyMcalpine]

Thank you for your authenticity!😮 I'm inspired!😊

[@MrBendybruce]

@@ShirleyMcalpine I genuinely appreciate the compliment. fyi this is the real me speaking :)

[@ShirleyMcalpine]

@MrBendybruce 🤔💕

[@juliannefetheryarn]

Dear Bernardo, you are no coward, this generous honest video is the evidence. I am so pleased that you have found peace. I greatly appreciate your work, your foundation is changing lives.

[@daviddeida]

Just ask him about Trump and see how peaceful he is.The man censors others with a different opinion,hes a hypocrite

[@ninaallchurch3101]

Dear Bernardo, I am so sorry to hear about your suffering and thanks for your brave testimony and guidance here.

[@Joseph-jj7bw]

My audiologist told me to make peace with my tinnitus and I’m still grappling with what she said. I thought at the time that it’d be impossible. But learning that Bernardo could gives me some confidence. Thank you for this video, Essentia

[@ashberrychapman7117]

I have mild tinnitus (managed increasingly well via shungite and yoga and meditation, running, diet, and working on peace and a better human planet for our children) and several years deep lived experience in suicide (many aspects of education, awareness, attempt survival, coaching others, treatment/recovery innovation, etc). This video is a powerful inspirational example of reinvention of self with a new purpose. Everything is for a reason. Tinnitus is not a life-sentence. It is a bridge to a new life-phase. I love the idea of 'a new silence'. Love and gratitude to you both, Alan Chapman

[@MJ-ml8db]

I live with severe tinnitus since almost ten years. It’s my life companion now, like my heart beat and my breath. When I will stop hearing it, it will mean I am dead so I better do with it. It’s possible like you say to completely forget it. Thanks for all the mind opening teaching.

[@sunild200]

@@MJ-ml8db T can be silenced. Use earmuffs 23dB or more(not earplugs) and cotton inside ears, keep away from electrical devices, ignore looking at ears, focus on TMJ area 4-5 days to shift tinnitus. Do NoT use masking devices as they keep T alive.

[@celesteschacht8996]

Blessings on you Bernardo ❤❤❤

[@stephenallen224]

As a Tinnitus sufferer myself, this is heartening to hear - this personal story of Bernardo's!

[@angiehewerdine]

Non stop ringing since 2012. I get it. 😢

[@stephenallen224]

@@angiehewerdine Mine sounds like I'm constantly trapped in the engine room of an alien spaceship 😂

[@angiehewerdine]

@stephenallen224 Mine as well. I hear various tones coming in and out all the time but the base tone never stops.

[@ahklys1321]

it's one of the most miserable things. Even if you turn up volume on things, it's still there, high pitched white noise (for me). If you can overcome that, you can overcome anything imo

[@dannydreadnought-xk4qx]

I'm so curious as to how tinnitus came to afflict you, if you wouldn't mind sharing?

[@DhavalJadhav2411]

So fortunate to have got essentia foundation channel ❤

[@nicolacroucher2280]

This is a Divine unfolding, Grace is moving through you , you are an inspiring human on many levels, i try to think 'why not me' when life takes a turn, many prayers and Blessings for your continued healing Bernardo

[@Pilgrimsrummet]

Grace indeed.

[@stephenjpreston7509]

Thank you for sharing so openly. You are an inspiration.

[@hawkarae]

There is a valve on humanity: acute/prolonged suffering blocks hippocampus function. Compassion, creativity, agency...we "lose" access to, and even memory of, our essential being which knows what the hell we're supposed to do: Be. Brain damage is another topic we're gonna wish we hadn't overlooked...

[@dhammaboy1203]

The Cure! Very cool Kastrup - stick around and continue to share your unique way of thinking! I can relate a lot to this conversation - I have both chronic pain & autism and Buddhist meditation has helped me cope with both for a similar reason - seeing through the belief & attachment to self reduces suffering. I honestly don't mind that I'm in frequent pain. The first 2 years where hardest but then you adjust. I'm doing a PhD in philosophy of mind & love my work, I love my meditation & I feel grateful for the many good things in my life. It's worth sticking around - even when we're faced with challenges. You never know where life will take you next!

[@greg442-u4n]

Bernardo's experience mirrors my own. I have had chronic pain since age 36 and anxiety since before that. Overwhelmed by living with the pain and anxiety for the last 5 years, the thought of spending the rest of my life in that condition was very intimidating. I didn't understand why these things were happening to me... isn't life supposed to be enjoyable? I was just treading water, trying to stay afloat. As part of my awakening in the last 9 months, I realized that so much of my suffering, almost all of it, was a result of identifying with the condition of the body and my negative thoughts and beliefs. One such belief was that this shouldn't be happening to me. Like Bernardo, I hardly notice the pain anymore. It is just a sensation, and it doesn't have to be anything more than that. I am happier than I've ever been in my adult life and I don't give a second thought to spending the rest of my life with pain and anxiety. I feel so free. My challenges are gifts that allow me to know my essentially unlimited nature.

[@grantlawrence611]

Wonderful story of insight and courage.

[@hawkarae]

I resonate with this and salute Bernardo and his better angels ❤❤❤

[@mjsunnyskies]

Thank you for sharing this deeply personal experience 🙏

[@auntiethetical]

What I believe I have noticed in Bernardo recently is the growth of an encompassing personal peace. I speculate that this is the result of recognizing that he is fulfilling the role for which he was intended. In continually and generously sharing his knowledge of the nature of reality he is performing an invaluable service to the rest of humanity. What more could be asked of one brief, fragile human lifetime?

[@RafiDude]

To many of us, it is only in throws of despair life presents us with a purpose much bigger than ourselves. Those who take it could end up changing the world. Dear Bernardo you are a Hero.

[@Belgium_citizen]

Your deep intellectual gaze is much needed in these times of superficiality. TNX for your endurance. Wish that you may receive relief of tinnitus.

[@RVEEATOR]

Awesome honesty..great job😊

[@wighatsuperreggie]

This is really an incredible story

[@tarasopanasiuk6164]

Your channel is amazing, so much insights. Thank you for doing this

[@ruthlewis673]

Marion Woodman wrote about a profound encounter with tinnitus. Her book, Dancing in the flame" It was a case of take this or take me. The energy then turned to metaphor and transformation ensued. We are beings if energy, metaphor supplies the bridge.

[@Hermitose]

The Cure! I relate to you Bernardo even more!

[@divinewind7405]

Acceptance is everything 🙏🏻💫✨

[@deanchovan6604]

So it would seem----

[@CGMaat]

Thank god , bernardo - you didnt have guts - it was divine providence - divine interception - you are needed for all of us….

[@adalbertoruiz7651]

This resounds a lot with Advaita Vedanta and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It's always nice to see how different approaches (spiritual, psychological, scientific etc.) end up with the same conclusions, because that deepens that sense of "life is not about me", since many of us at some point have the idea that we're absolutely right about our conclusions. And if we analyze our experiences more objectively, we'll really see how life simply flows and happens, we're just a part of it, and whatever happens to others can also happen to us.

[@LizLondonWWA]

What helps me with tinnitus is to merge with the sound and let it become an internal sound of AUM (OM) or AIM (eeem). Breathing in unison with each tone also helps.

[@artoffighting06]

Wow, ..what a story / development, and (lived) message as well. All the best (even though that's not necessarily what it's about) to you, and the foundation. I'm "dealing" with an autoimmune conditions, ..for almost 20 years now, it has kicked me out of my planned tracks, completely. Yet, my wounded ego is still putting up a fight ..still stuck in a way. Haven't been able to transmute my suffering into something 'other or bigger'. But the possibility is there.. no shortage of meta suffering 'my' life.. (un)fortunately. Cheers

[@brivetti]

thank you and your friend ( and your tinnitus) for creating this amazing foundation. i have tinnitus and unfortunately my life just went on an opposite direction, but that's me and my fears. hugs from brazil 😅

[@markcounseling]

It is totally understandable to want Tinnitus to go away, but paradoxically, the way to help it go away is to not believe that it is real -- that it is physical and that you are damaged. It is created and intensified by the nervous system's response to itself. The more there is fear about it in the nervous system, the more the nervous system will focus on it, and therefore it will become louder. The more we practice not caring about it, the easier it is for the nervous system to stop focusing on it -- and it can start to tune it out, just like if you live by an airport and you stop hearing the planes going by. At that point, if you really tune in, you might be able to hear it, but you can spend great stretches of time being blissfully unaware of it. This was my experience. At some point, as Bernardo commented, it really is not a problem anymore, as bizarre as that sounds given where we start.

[@deanchovan6604]

@@markcounseling Thank you Mark. I think that your observation about the nervous system responding to it's self (with being the key) is true)

[@MA-ResearchEdu-e9l]

This is my favourite video yet from this wonderful channel.

[@sergiobaptista7441]

Obrigado

[@grzegorz4636]

Great examples of this are songs released just today by The Cure: ‘All I Ever Am’ and ‘Endsong’ from their new album. Nothing is everything, emptiness is form, death is life ❤🙏

[@alicethemadrabbit1842]

I understand the tinitus driving someone to want to so that...!! Most of my life I could not breathe through my nose and as that got worse and worse, brain fog, no sleeping, can't exercise properly, narcolepsy.... the suffering wasn't worth it. I can breathe now and now I know just how badly I was suffering and no one can really understand..... It's hell to not be able to breathe.

[@VitorSantos-ib5dn]

I believe that Bernardo is sincere and that he is convinced of everything he says here in this video. I admire Bernardo's intelligence, great capacity for expression, and great work capacity. But I can't understand that a person can motivate himself by telling himself that life is not about himself. We all know that we are going to die, so if there is a goal for life, it couldn't be about the person we are (Vítor, in my case). But if there is no individual thing that survives death, we are just postponed corpses (this individual something is not the person we are, it will be the spectator of the subjective experience, but it is correlated with the person we are, the part whole, as Faggin says ). And procreating would be putting more corpses in this crazy world. I would feel guilty about having fathered my children. Analytical idealism, as I understand from what Bernardo says, does not seem to me to give more meaning to life than metaphysical materialism. What's the point of an arm that is going to be cut off "thinking" that it is part of a body that is much more than itself? Knowing that he will be cut off definitively without hope of any form of survival, may even give him the peace of "thinking" that the suffering has a guaranteed end, but it can also motivate the suffering of the lack of reason to be alive and/or even suicide. Either I don't understand what Bernardo says (that's probably it), or, for me, analytical idealism doesn't give me motivation to live.

[@laurisolups6563]

I agree with you. Just said the following on another video: I don't see how loss of individuality is a boon. It's separation that enables relationships - the very juice of existence. Every self is precious and lovable, look at how we value each other in this life, the specialness of each of us. And then somehow it's ok if all that goes up in smoke?

[@xMaGiiSK]

God I love this man

[@pass1onfru1t]

So beautiful. Thank you for sharing! Also… I can’t help but tell you about Stephen Porges, neuroscientist, who has tinnitus and takes a big dose of omega 3 every day which manages his symptoms like nothing else.

[@koldourrutia]

Reminds me Echard Tolle s Turn of Life...-like many others enligthened

[@steffenkarl7967]

When we teach little humans to talk to themselves and others we bestow a super power on them that let's them go from infancy to eventual certain death without much fuss. This is flabbergasting. Handing over a well digested copy of our life experience from conception until death at the moment of death will go a long way to soften the blow. Who will be be able to hold one's shape with no content? One will😊❤ Apparently even a. Copy of every dream is required

[@ferkinskin]

"Thus conscience does make cowards of us all; And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o’er with the pale cast of thought; And enterprises of great pith and moment, With this regard, their currents turn awry, And lose the name of action."

[@grzegorz4636]

if I interpret it right, Eckhart Tolle calls it ‘observing the thinker’ instead of ‘being the thinker’

[@haze1123]

My tinnitus got much worse after the vaccination. It took about a year to go back to a mild level. It can be maddening indeed.

[@sunild200]

@MJ-ml8db T can be silenced. Use earmuffs 23dB or more(not earplugs) and cotton inside ears, keep away from electrical devices, ignore looking at ears, focus on TMJ area 4-5 days to shift tinnitus. Do NoT use masking devices as they keep T alive.

[@xMaGiiSK]

Finally he's honest 😊

[@whoaitstiger]

Well said. There is a level of bliss way beyond happiness and comfort. Those are contingent, transient states. There is a place where a human being can be at peace while literally being on fire.

[@deanchovan6604]

The peace that passeth all understanding??

[@tanned06]

Is he practicing some sort of Buddhist mindfulness meditation that teaches that suffering should be watched over as it is and not to be reacted towards to aggravate it further?

[@abcabc9893]

Meta positions is what I specialise in in psychotherapy and utilise it to resolve many problems....it accelerates the process maximally.....that couple with other techniques readily enables complete revealing of the programming underlying addictive acting out patterns...thus resolving alcohol, cocaine, sex addictions very quickly ....about 10 to 15 hours usually. I've developed this in the last ten years after 15 years working in dual diagnosis and using psychedelics. It's a natural extension of the psychedelics without the clumsy side of their application.

[@SolaceEasy]

Ring the bells that still will ring. Forget your perfect offering. There's a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. - Leonard Cohen

[@tamaslaszlo1745]

This nicely alligns with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and the work put into undertanding (actually realizing the ignorance, the not understanding) into our perception, cognition, metaphysics, promotes the “defusion”. Of course, we could use other lingo for the same age old trick.

[@Ajith-c2h]

The real trick is to eliminate meta-meta-suffering

[@translinearlight6132]

and that is?

[@Ajith-c2h]

@@translinearlight6132 there's no end if you keep looking in that direction - each meta adds a different layer of suffering, albeit more subtle. Admittedly it takes skill to suppress an immediate physical problem using a broader reference frame to nullify the narrative. Good for him, deserves credit.

[@SoyOtroTu]

"The Totality of Existence IS The Universal Mind asking: 'ARE YOU ANOTHER ME?'. Your answer determines your reality. 'No' brings suffering, 'Yes, I AM ANOTHER YOU!' reveals Cosmic Love. This is the ONLY real Freedom: choose your answer and live the consequences. THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO KNOW. Suffer or be happy."

[@sunild200]

Tinnitus can be silenced. Use earmuffs 23-dB or more(not earplugs) and cotton inside ears, keep away from electrical devices, ignore looking at ears, focus on TMJ area for 4-5 days to shift tinnitus. Do NoT use masking devices as they keep T alive.

[@chrisdaniels4420]

Thank you for sharing this

[@CharissaW]

This morning, I came across this video and watched it right away. Then, I moved on to an "Awakening Mind" video, where Bernardo appeared again with the same message about meta suffering. It’s great to see his insights included in an "Awakening Mind" production! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXbUcqePeseIa7M

[@DenianArcoleo]

Interesting that a philosopher felt the need for a comprehensive home security system at home involving cctv, sirens etc.

[@Pilgrimsrummet]

Can someone explain what he means when he says he understood it is not about him, not about his pleasure etc? Thank you.

[@gjkoolen]

I think he meant he detached his awareness from his body, and not "be" the suffering, but merely observe the suffering. And accept the suffering without identifying with it. This creates new freedom. Hope this makes sense.

[@adalbertoruiz7651]

He noticed that the suffering came from non-acceptance of the fact and that it would continue whether he accepted it or not. So it wasn't about him, life doesn't care if he accepts it or not, the tinnitus would still be there. So it not being about him or his desires, giving up on them was the key to not suffer. The same applies to happiness, because "life" didn't make a commitment on making people happy, it's people that create this expectation. So by giving up on it too, he's open to whatever happens, instead of resisting to things he can't change.

[@mRrDejwy]

You know, if you ever have the time and space, you might try to get the Gene keys book and read the 47th Gene Key. It relates to this and more. I think the work of Richard Rudd would resonate with you strongly and honestly I wish to see you two to sit and talk in front of a camera, because it would be a joining of two great souls. And I believe you would have a lot to say to each other, I see your works as extremely complementary.

[@xMaGiiSK]

U felt the end TbT

[@aethelierproductions]

Dear Bernardo. Maybe this comment would come of as laughable at best to someone as intelligent as you but please don't you ever think of yourself as being a coward for sparing your own life. I believe our lives are sacred and valuable gifts. Always remember that. I think of reality as something not that is out there but something that is experienced by being alive. Without you there would be one reality less to be experienced and interpreted. Thank you for bringing this idea of meta suffering to us and i am so glad you came to such realization, even though i can imagine having 2 dental doctors drilling in your ears constantly can be a drag. But maybe it is there to help you work with your inner focus better? I don't know.. what do you think? :)

[@gordoncaldwell5597]

Excuse me for acting as a physician but I have personal experience with tinnitus. One can reduce or eliminate tinnitus by cut out ALL salt and avoiding NSAIDs. Other medications may increase tinnitus such as antidepressants. The causes of tinnitus vary but the continuation of tinnitus can be reduced by eliminating all salt…..it may take up to six weeks. The modern diet is full of salt so one would need to cook for one self or control the preparation of food. Of course one must eat many vegetables to supply the necessary elements and vitamins.

[@PetraKann]

Meta-love

[@gabydareau]

When you’ve fully relinquished all attachment to the suffering, you can also let go of the limiting belief that healing is not possible.

[@sunild200]

I can relate to what you say abt tinnitus and contemplation of suicde there is a way to silence T if u communicate with me

[@Wesinhuman]

Profound truth here! Alpha lipoic acid fixed my year long tinnitus, it was truly hell and I consider myself fortunate. >< I’m sure glad he was a “coward” because he’s saving lives daily!

[@angiehewerdine]

I'm going to try it. Thanks!

[@tylermoore4429]

The design of the security system is bollocks. The siren is loud enough to cause ear damage? That is an obvious danger, not just to intruders, but to the residents of the house. The tinnitus story is pretty horrific, though it appears over time Bernardo's brain has learned to tune out the sound in a top-down fashion. I understand the slant of this video is psychological/spiritual, but I wonder what Bernardo's medical journey was like treating the problem.

[@GenesisReveal]

True, and every intruder can't be assumed to be a burglar. Of course, blaming others also leads to suffering.

[@TheKetsa]

I m quite happy my tinnitus isn't that strong and annoying...

[@Amanda1234-nqc]

Same. He's got good taste in music. Does music not help? Sound healing? Out of tune?

[@TheStarAndTheDespot]

House alarms cause more harm to owners and neighbours than burglars…

[@ZBB0001]

And he's wearing a Cure shirt ....

[@OscarGolph]

A new silence lol, i make new tunes with my tinnitus

[@peopleschoice1457]

I didn't understand a single word! If anyone can explain it in simple plain words ??

[@RaviBajnath]

“Who is the one that suffers?” When you identify as consciousness (as such under Idealism), external fear, uncertainty, and doubt fade.

[@alicethemadrabbit1842]

Nothing about choosing to or not going through with suicide makes someone a coward.... That's nobody's first choice.

[@xMaGiiSK]

The interviewer i❤s no great

[@HantonSacu]

some buddha level insights here

[@sugarfree1894]

indeed

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[@MichaelJones-ek3vx]

Idealism at its core is isomorphic to Buddhism.

[@raresmircea]

Except buddhism isn’t isomorphic with buddhism… Many different buddhist branches growing in different directions

[@GenesisReveal]

I think you mean the essence of Buddhism because isomorphic is a science term. I could argue that Jesus' teachings on non-judgment, gratitude, and resignation to the will of a benevolent Creator also solve the same problem.

[@sugarfree1894]

Suffering of suffering. Why me? This shouldn't be happening to me. I shouldn't be suffering like this. That is suffering of suffering. Take the self out of the equation and there is more peace.

[@GenesisReveal]

Isn't this the story of everyone who has learned to live with extreme, chronic suffering? Accept it and then life becomes bearable. Doesn't the same principle apply to emotional suffering? Still, there is so much ignorance regarding this, and therefore so little optimism among those who start to experience extreme physical or emotional pain.

[@ThoArtOne]

The idealism is sinking in Bernardo somewhat one-sided and superficial, he cries about his cat but doesn't care what humanity do to animals, just hypocritical empathy and self pity.

[@xMaGiiSK]

But no

[@PetraKann]

Some sort of pseudo-quasi-Stoicism

[@Jukau]

some sort of meta-arrogance

[@PetraKann]

@ all responses are “meta”

[@Jukau]

@@PetraKann you must be meta fun at partys