Suffolk dialect with Charlie Haylock

Dialect coach Charlie Haylock talks us through some of the words and phrases we use in Suffolk

[@donaldedgar1004]

Haven’t we got a brilliant English language so full of history bravo 👏

[@longbennyred1201]

I met Charlie in a Beccles bookshop 11 years ago, when he did a book signing. He signed my copy of his first book “do yew keep a troshin” and I went on to buy several more of his books. A wonderful man and historian, and a caretaker of the East Anglian dialects

[@Laura-qb1ov]

I remember once at school a new kid who'd come from Kent made fun of me for saying shew and we had a huge row about it. I was telling her "showed isn't a real word it's shew!" I was baffled when the dictionary didn't agree with me 🤣

[@Christopher-ii6tr]

T' heck with modern dictionaries and keep ye dialect and accent alive. If people don't like the way a proper Norfolk or Suffolk lass or lad speaks then that's their personal problem. By the way I am American born and raised but my mountain folk had a lot of East Anglian dialect in our speech as well Scots-Irish and so forth.

[@acidcat2354]

Exactly same thing happened to me as a kid with my step brother from Essex😂

[@tobeytransport2802]

The other odd thing is that Kentish people often have accents that aren’t conventional English too, especially older people. My family is always told we sound like farmers and essentially the difference is that most peoples accents have been affected by the London influence but some people still retain an old south east accent that was once common from Norfolk all the way to Kent, with differences of course.

[@kevingirling8129]

I’ve lived in Suffolk all my life, I have a Broadlands dialect. It’s amazing how many people ask me if I am from Australia…..most odd

[@jayaitch2194]

Spent many years of my young life in Norfolk, love East Anglian accents x

[@PiousMoltar]

This guy has so much knowledge. Linguistical and more so.

[@Grim1of2]

When I was but a boy, I stayed with my old Grandma on many occasions in Clare, Suffolk. She was born in Poslingford. On one occasion we were out & about in Clare, and I was watching a couple of girls across the the street, she said to me "yew garpin' at the mawthers, boi?". I dont think I'll ever forget that.

[@007jerkins]

I've watched a talk he gave in our village - not only is he brilliant with words, he's amazing at recognising accents. I spoke just a couple of sentences to him, and he said "You're from Swansea aren't you, or maybe Neath?"... perfectly accurate. Not bad, recognising my (by now) very faint Welsh accent, and getting the locality correct!

[@nickyork8901]

Professor Henry 'Iggins?

[@monyana9620]

This is absolutely brilliant. My Nana was as Suffolk as they come, if she was still here she would of loved to hear this, you don't hear old Suffolk very often anymore. Absolutely wonderful.

[@johnnycombs6570]

He's from Essex, not a Suffolk original!!!

[@joalexsg9741]

I'm glad you mentioned Scots, sir, cause I feel this dialect still has some influence of the Northumbrian dialects up north, which I believe are legitimate regional languages derived from Old Northumbrian or the true language of the Angles. No wonder the region is called East Anglia! You're a living cultural treasure yourself, sir. What a delightful and truly educational video, thank you so much!🙏🙏🙏

[@DarrenBigDazRobertson1873]

I could listen to this man all day long. I’m actually researching the Suffolk accent for a theatrical role, and I’m Scottish, however I got carried away listening to him. I’ve always been fascinated with different dialects and accents, and where words derive from, so I’m absolutely delighted to have found this.

[@jusele-ox9rc]

We say as a greeting Oroight buh. Your welcome

[@winterroadspokenword4681]

Can put you in touch with some people to speak to if you wanna. They are from Essex but have almost the same accent along the border.

[@DarrenBigDazRobertson1873]

@@winterroadspokenword4681 thank you for the offer but I never got the part.

[@pokepals4840]

Lovely. My old step dad used to say there was four types of 'boats'... boats that you put on your feet, boats that float on water, boats on the back of cars and boats the chemist's 😄

[@therian_forever12]

I remember my Nan telling us 'Come on, get yer boats on'!

[@stevetilk4926]

I’m American and we always called the see-saw a teeter totter. I always wondered how it got its name. Thanks for sharing. By the way, there’s a pod cast called History of English that talks about the origin of certain words and phrases. It’s fascinating when you learn the back story of our language.

[@lordeden2732]

You can thank the founding fathers or families for that who brought it a words like fall for Autum which comes from Lincolnshire and Norfolk

[@dalemarsh357]

This is me. It's my history, it's in my blood and these words are the ones that my forebears used every day. I weep because it's now history and is dying out. I try my hardest to keep it going and speak in this way to keep it alive. It's me. Uss roit buh.

[@andrewhirst8403]

Same here, in Yorkshire. My grandma used to tell me many words we've already lost (and I wished I'd written down), and there are many we commonly used, as kids, which wouldn't be recognised, now. 😕

[@gaius_enceladus]

@@andrewhirst8403 - I *love* the Yorkshire accent! I love all of the UK accents but I think the Yorkshire one is my favourite! "Aye - trouble a' t'mill........ " ;)

[@Grim1of2]

Same here, I feel sometimes, sadly that dialectically, we're the last of a dying breed, our lovely dialect being constantly bombarded and polluted with estuary English and American influence via the internet and tv.

[@onlinemusiclessonsadamphil4677]

I really enjoyed this video Charlie. In the north east of Scotland, we speak Doric which shares a lot of words with Cumbrian and Geordie dialects. We also say 'That'll learn ye' ! With a rolled rrrrr. Our dialect is very germanic in nature and often people will say it's sloppy speech but your video disproved that so thank you

[@PiousMoltar]

It astounds me how some of these I never even considered local. I thought everyone said "on the drag"...

[@albionmyl7735]

Suffolk =Südvolk...... Norfolk =Nordvolk that's old Saxon and Angles legacy...... I am a native Saxon from Westphalia northwest Germany and a great adorer of England..... our closest in this world..... ❤

[@Poorlybobsdad]

I have spent quite a bit of time working in Germany and we are very similar indeed. If we stand in a room together we have speak before it’s clear where we are from 👍🏻

[@albionmyl7735]

@@Poorlybobsdad yes.... Indeed... I've been many times in England.... it's like a second home for me.... we have many things in common..... we are connected with our DNA and ancestry ♥️

[@jemmajames6719]

Throughly enjoyed this, what a knowledgeable man.

[@TheCaptain64]

I live about a mile n half from the Haylock's farm on the Suffolk Cambridgeshire border near Haverhill earliest memories in the 60s being on that farm hearing the Suffolk twang and old man Haylock probably Charlies father or uncle, as London lad, when dad rewired the farm .

[@ChoppyChof]

Haylocks rings a bell now you mention Haverhill. I lived in Sturmer, Steeple Bumpsted and Haverhill many years ago.

[@hayley8715]

'Alright boh' I remember my Grandad always said this, he was from Bedingfield in Suffolk and was part of The Old Hat, a group of performers from Suffolk. I used to love the summers when the peas were ready....not the same from Tesco, we had them straight from field, keeping a look out for the farm owner....i remember his name for sure!

[@gaius_enceladus]

"That'll larn yer!" Great! I love the West Country accent too, as shown by Phil Harding in "Time Team". "'Ere's LOADS of arrrrrchaeology there, look!" I'm a NZer and I *love* the wonderful accents in the UK!

[@kathrynhobbs8874]

My dad spent his young days in Essex always called a seesaw a teeter totter.

[@lordeden2732]

Which was taken over to America bÿ the founding fathers. They also call seesaws that on the east coast

[@PortmanRd]

Grew up in Bramford Suffolk as a child and even after living in Essex for 40 years people still pick up on my Suffolk accent. But if I go back to Suffolk to visit family.. They say I sound like cockney. Alright Buh! Classic. Don't matter how old you are. Walk into your local and its "You 'right buh?" =' Are you OK mate?'

[@PortmanRd]

The old primary school next to the church was closed. A new school was built in Duckamere close. We lived there with my Mums Grandad until she got her first house in Flindell drive.

[@davidbloomfield7433]

Utterly fascinating and what an engaging man Charlie is.

[@1414141x]

What a rich tapestry the English language is. So much history is contained in our words. Words we use without thinking about. Even the names of many of our villages, towns and cities have the language of history embedded in them.

[@nadinestapler3881]

This is brilliant, very interesting. I could listen to this man all day.

[@steveknight878]

Fascinating - I love different dialects, and especially how they came about.

[@Sam-cz2bz]

What an interesting and fascinating man. I could sit and listen to him for hours.

[@AndalusianIrish]

In Northern Ireland we also say 'That'll learn ye' and 'Haul yer horses'.

[@2doright647]

My dad says that also from the deep south in America!

[@AndalusianIrish]

@@2doright647 is he Scots Irish?

[@corrinenolan344]

@AndalusianIrish the whole south is influenced by the Scots, the Irish, ulster Scots and brits so much that even those without the ancestry say things the same but with that souther accent. The accent sounds different but so many things come from there. The north also does but differently. We say "aboot" instead of about. Or "doont" for don't. Very scottosh sounding but most just do not realize it. We say "woorsh" but the o is really annunciated. Where as a scot would say it gently like "woresh" it's pretty interesting. It's over 100 years for some ancestors voyages here but they're still a huge part of the States.

[@Martin-tn5lm]

I was born in rural Midwest Ireland in the 1950s. Many of the old folks used the term "That'll Larn Ya/Ye" when they admonished/punished subordinates, children etc.

[@lordeden2732]

That comes from the English Archers who came from Norfolk and Suffolk to try to put down Strong Bow and his Rebels the stay on to settle in Ireland

[@birdie1585]

I am from Colchester, my father's family were Colchester-bred through and through and through. Quite a few of these words were totally normal in use in Colchester, amongst locals, amnongst my local family, when I was living there (until 25 years ago, or so). Like so much of the area within commuting distance of London, all manner of non-locals are now living there in large numbers, so the local dialect and accent is being lost. On the drag, on the huh, over Will's (or Wilf's) mother's, load of squit, potchet were all in regular use when and as required. What most people regard as an Essex accent, not least comedians, isn't, it is over-spill London accent, so called estuary English. The actual Essex accent is a less broad Suffolk accent, as Norfolk is a broader sounding Suffolk accent.

[@thebritishteacup8677]

I’m from Suffolk and I knew the ‘on the drag’ one and ‘shew’ which is weird because I feel like I should know more but I don’t, so this has been so insightful!

[@MrMassivefavour]

This reminds me a little of Ewan MacColls wonderful "Radio Ballads" Before MacColl, who had already revolutionised British Playwright/production and Folk Music, the voices, accents of the rural, working class were never heard. He invented a radio documentary style which included musical interjections. He featured, the railways, the travelling community, the miners and in "singing the fishing" he featured the wonderful East Anglia, scottish and south Welsh voices of the once mighty fishing fleet. The Fisherman and heavily broad spoken Sam Larner was featured for his tales and songs. He became a reluctant star on the Folk scene during the MacColl lead 'revival' of the 50s 60s. It was wonderful. From that production came songs like "sholes of herring" "North Sea holes" which later became Folk standards for a generation

[@proberttemporum4542]

What an amazing chap. What a captivating lesson on the origins of words and phrases embedded the English language . What a brilliant reminder of the richness of English culture. Let’s never forget where we came from. Let’s never allow the currently fashionable suppression of Englishness to prevail. Let’s be proud of who we are, not be made to feel ashamed of our own diverse history in the rush to celebrate the diversity of other cultures.

[@susanjohn6506]

Fascinating. I could listen to him forever.

[@andyalder7910]

Ipswich may be in Suffolk but the dialect is different; born there but never heard "together" at the end of a sentence until i visited my nana in Stoneham.

[@kevingirling8129]

They say mount-in as a 2 syllable word for Mountain, and row-ed for road in Ipswich……

[@RSLtreecare]

Love it. I come from Essex. I crew up on a farm. 1956-72 then moved to Norfolk. I have heard lots of these words. I working in London was a little odd at the start. I keeped a link with several smallholdings.

[@theNeathBoy]

Love this. I always enjoy learning the derivation and origin of words and phrases, and I do to some extent lament the loss of these small differences in speech and phrases across regions of the UK.

[@brandendeysel6506]

I recognised words that we use when speaking Afrikaans today. The meanings also match.

[@kymvalleygardensdesign5350]

My dad used to say Crinkle Crankle and the weathers bad over wills mother's way! However, I wished I had taped my grandad and his brother talking to each other.

[@themediaman100]

Haha, great. I can remember the older ones saying "It's looking a bit black over Uncle Will's pig sty" when it was looking like rain was immenent. It always raised a laugh. The East Anglia accent is one of the finest and very melodic. Such a shame that it has largely disappeard.

[@grendel_nz]

Lovely to see you again. I miss the Laxfield singing afternoons :)

[@karamia1392]

My granddad was from Ipswich. He died years before I was born. It’s nice to know how few might have sounded. ❤

[@alloneword7427]

I'm from Notts, and we say 'It's black oar Bills' but will use it to say rain on the horizon from whatever direction it's from, not just the East. Loved this video.

[@stevepayne5965]

I'm just down the road in Leicestershire, and for that phenomenon we - older people in particular, but not exclusively; I don't think I'm that old! - say: "It's black uvver Bill's mother's", where mother rhymes with bother.

[@ozalba]

Dad, a West Bridgford man, used "that'll larn you", but probably didn't realise the derivation; he also used "black ovva Bill's mothers" (which I used today when I spotted the dark clouds not far away) with the 'o' in "mother's" sounded like the 'o' in "moth". And I was introduced to "shew" by my Saxmundham-born old boss; I eventually got used to it...

[@mrsrjlupin3650]

My mother uses Black over back of Bill's mother and she was from Birmingham, which doesn't seem to be a Brummie phrase. Anyone heard of a "Bobowler" for a moth?

[@lorrainegeraghty9670]

What a interesting video and I could listen to him all night ,great

[@andrewbenson4439]

Fascinating. Shew makes so much sense now.

[@pda3095]

I love watching these videos about local dialects, my grandad was from Kent but sounded just like Charlie, thanks mate, we need to protect our language and dialects by keeping them in use. Love from Wiltshire.

[@ajadrew]

I recognise many of these having lived at Chilton Hall Stowmarket & Ipswich as a child 60 odd years back. And I've a funny feeling I've met this fellow through The Ryes at Sudbury?

[@bruceknights8330]

My late mother, born and bred in Holborn, central London, used to say a long thing or journey as I bin all round Will's Mum. Also she'd refer to a mess as a Bear Garden

[@sylviamills631]

I have used this word,(A load of squit) so beautiful

[@Bazrad68]

I found this fascinating. Never been to the UK but it’s on my list😬

[@Jennifer19854]

Absolutely riveting!

[@PoPodkay]

love it

[@kc8wr2bl7x]

I live in the Middle East now but used to put up marquees each summer (age 14-22) for a company in North Essex. We used to do lots of work in Suffolk and this video feels extremely nostalgic to me. Little slice of "home" and happy memories.

[@michaelgodbold6247]

Good to hear someone speaking proper likes what witch i does

[@tobeytransport2802]

Im staying in Suffolk right now and my dad, who is a builder, had to go and have a look at some crinkle crackle walls and was telling me all about them 😅

[@petergaskin1811]

Crinkle Crankle. There's one outside Eye in Suffolk. Serpentine we'd call them in Kent. Cos we're stuck up.

[@tobeytransport2802]

@@petergaskin1811 oh nice I’m from Kent too!

[@gb5uq]

Interestingly many of these words and phrases were commonplace in the small Northamptonshire village I grew up in during the 1950's and early sixties, albeit with some subtle differences in pronunciation. Sadly those words and even the dialect we spoke have gone. The nearest I have heard to my old native dialect is spoken around the area of Peterborough.

[@jesshumphries3745]

So many words my Grandparents used here... 😀

[@goldfish2379]

This is fascinating!

[@AJones-dr5wf]

My mum was from Suffolk. We had budgerigars as pets which she taught to speak - all with a Suffolk accent. 😊

[@lordeden2732]

Nope, Shredded Tweet

[@jhj6636]

Lovely. Thank you for putting this together. I didn't know the origin's of many of these words. My father's family were from Sudbury, Suffolk. I'm a Norfolk man ['...and proud of being so'] but, for me, the Suffolk accent is easier on the ear. If I may add a phrase: "Come you here, or I'll sting your lug." [Come here, or I'll clip your ear.]

[@Nooticus]

This guy is amazing. Amazing video

[@cryoraptora303tm2]

Definitely hearing lots of proto-Australian speak in there, and even a little bit of proto-American. East Anglian dialect has influenced a lot of the common varieties of English now spoken, from Cockney to estuary English to overseas varieties. Those East Anglians get about don't they

[@steveo726]

I often get asked if I’m Australian from foreign people

[@Spotteroo]

We've got two crinklecrankle walls in Pershore

[@rattusnorvegicus4380]

Perfect, heard you loud and clear. My mother was from Norfolk, just over the border from Brandon in Suffolk. I knew a thatcher that went down to that neck of the woods to fetch reed, and he jokingly said, whatever you do, don`t stop to ask the locals for directions, they talk so slowly and deliberately, you`ll be there all day. I knew what he meant, such was the pace of life back then. At Newmarket, a racehorse owner tried to enter his horse as "Norfolk`n`good", but the officials told him to sling his hook.

[@PiousMoltar]

"Norfolk'n'good" I love that. I'm from south west Norfolk / north west Suffolk. Not far from Newmarket. Love a Newmarket Sausage.

[@jamielee9350]

Sorry pal , you are wrong about the horse. The horse in question was called "Norfolk n Chance". It competed in a few Point to Point races, but never anywhere special . There was an incident many years back with a horse called "Wear The Fox Hat", who got as far as the Folkestone racecourse stables for his debut run before it was spotted by an eagle-eyed official. After some hurried paperwork he ran that afternoon as “Noname”.

[@HughGarrette]

This is fantastic-fascinating. I'm from West Yorkshire, but briefly lived in Bury St Edmunds, and could move back. I've family in Norfolk, and the accent here, sounds very similar, to my ears

[@xrotor1966]

Absolutely fascinating.

[@joline2730]

Oh Charlie, please please put some of your wonderful stories on youtube : tissue pappy, darkie, and all the other ones which made me cry with laughter ... 😁💯✔ Love your style.

[@nathanclack720]

This bloke came to my sixth form around 2006/7, he was brilliant and incredibly knowledgeable. He told some of us the origins of our surnames. Can still remember it well now.

[@badkeiser]

I’m from the Black Country. Parts of our dialect go back to Old English and parts go back to Middle English. People think we are getting English wrong bit we’ve just held on to proper English for a very long time. Technically everybody else changed.

[@mrsrjlupin3650]

Barmpot I noticed seems to have been picked up as being a Scots word, but its alive and kicking in the Black Country. The BC accent is one of the closest to old English/Germanic and has been attributed to being very remote in Early Middle Ages (few roads, few rivers, not by the coast) so preserved for longer

[@badkeiser]

@@mrsrjlupin3650 I remember it being on the news that someone did a study and the Dudley accent was the closest to how Shakespeare would have spoken. That’s what they reckoned.

[@robyndalby-stockwell9242]

Thankyou so much, this was so enlightening,, wonderful.

[@mos6146]

Very interesting, enjoyed that !

[@alisonbrowning9620]

his accent reminds me of my grandfather's accent, he was from Bedfordshire, a country man

[@spiderill7791]

Suffolking good buh!

[@sacredgeometry]

This was glorious.

[@nigeldunkley2986]

Absolutely brilliant! A living treasure - it is fascinating to hear the different influences on regional dialects. I am from Perthshire and going to uni in Aberdeen was like linguistically going to a different country! Now living in Berlin (I married one) - same story with the Berlinerisch and Ossisprache alongside Hochdeutsch. Da keekste wa, Kleene?

[@themagicrat8803]

I like old Charlie... he's a rum un.

[@cultfiction3865]

Ive heard a bit of suffolk before. " Ai ruyd muy trackurr ai dew" I wish you all talked like that down there. It would feel like time travel

[@stevestruthers6180]

The way this man says the word 'tide' is exactly the way Newfoundlanders in Canada say it. The Newfoundland dialect is believed to be at least partly influenced by the West Country dialect, and from this video, I'm getting the sense that it might also be influenced by the Suffolk dialect.

[@jontalbot1]

What a relief to find someone on KZbin who a) actually knows things b) doesn’t shout This bloke should be on the Telly. But it’s not likely on account of his not being shouty and being informed

[@PiousMoltar]

"In Australia..." Australian English seems so familiar to me, as an East Anglian. It sounds more familiar than most English accents.

[@hayley8715]

I find the Norfolk accent sounds Austrailian. I'm from Suffolk

[@stevecowham1017]

I heard two girls chatting in a Framlingham Chinese takeaway, I could have sworn they were Aussies. It has always made me wonder how many East Anglians were deported to Australia.

[@theinspector1023]

Very interesting. It's nice to hear proper Suffolk. I live in the West Country and I miss it, although it sounds strangely foreign when I go back there.

[@webbtunes9557]

Yes! Was waiting for coupla three

[@paulbarham1038]

This was enjoyable! My dad was from Framingham. So natural curiosity to know how people talk from where he was raised. The one thing that I remember dad saying which was in the video was "a couple of three" instead of saying six. That was cool to hear!

[@tomjohnson1054]

The phrase is "a couple or three", it means "few", it doesn't mean 6 to me knowledge. Not in my part of Suffolk anyway.

[@paulbarham1038]

@@tomjohnson1054 you know. I was just a little boy at the time. Chances are likely that I misheard him and I may have thot he said "a couple of three" instead of "a couple or three" which makes more sense. Thanx for the correction.

[@tomjohnson1054]

@@paulbarham1038 you may well have heard correctly. Languages and accents evolve. My grandfather born 1915 reckoned he could tell what village someone came from as a boy, such was the fact people moved around so little then in Suffolk.

[@stevecowham1017]

My sister still lives in Fram. We were brought up at Tavern Farm in Bedfield. It's becomming an even smaller world.

[@mrreindeer1844]

​@wiccanwarrior9 we still say '5 and twenty to' the hour. Freaks the young uns out!

[@lordeden2732]

Crinkle crankle walls were all over the country. To save as he claimed bricks. Over time most were pulled down . We presevered ours.

[@splatten8597]

Very clever man!

[@sigil5772]

I was at school in Framlingham, easterly, so definitely 'bor'!

[@garybland782]

A genius

[@andrewhirst8403]

Fascinating to hear some dialect words from another county. I'm from the former West Riding of Yorkshire, and in my ignorance, I thought other dialects had all but died out completely (as have most of our words). I live in the former North Riding, nowadays, and it's interesting to me which surviving dialect words we have which are the same, and which are different (a bit like this chap's Sufflolk and Norfolk variations, I imagine). We also have many old Norse words, as you might expect, in the heart of Danelaw. It's also refreshing to hear someone who knows the difference between a dialect, and these idiots who think an accent is a dialect. 👍

[@georgina3358]

I agree about people who mix up the meanings accent and dialect. Really annoying, grrrr!

[@IridescentEye]

William III wasn't, strictly speaking, a Stuart but his mother was so good enough for me ... brilliant channel by the way. I know a lot of these through my parents, some new ones for me though. This guy is bang on 'Bah' is definitely the Bury pronunciation, however I thought it was short for neighbour, but your argument sounds convincing ... interesting. Crinkle Crankle walls are a fantastic architectural anomaly ... another is Pargeting, mostly Suffolk, some North Essex and I think the North Folk call it Pinking.

[@yesyes1076]

A lot of Suffolk and Norfolk is similar ❤️

[@andybelcher1767]

@yesyes1076 Not really, it depends on the area. The border lands are very similar naturally but North East Suffolk (me) is very different to North West and South Suffolk, and over the border from me, middle of South Norfolk is very different from other areas of Norfolk. I suppose you might say that the dialect and accent changes about every 20 miles.

[@steveo726]

Norfolk language is best spoken with six fingers on each hand

[@user-np8nr5uw3r]

@@steveo726don’t think you’d be saying that if you were from Norfolk.

[@mickhursey947]

My family is from Essex alot of the words and sayings hes coming out with we use in Essex

[@barryfeatherstone1616]

Blast, Tha's a rum 'un....😊👍

[@elliot2582]

very informative! Struggling to hear though, even with my audio on full. thank you for uploading

[@Straight_Outta_Hopton]

Thats 'cos hes not from suffolk.

[@jeremyrichards8327]

My dad used to use "on the huh" ....born in Lowestoft. When we played marbles at school near Norwich " no squit" was a term used.

[@w0033944]

We had most of these in Norfolk, though some are different.

[@jessebarrett6132]

I’m from east Suffolk and it was always hayoroit buh, not questioning his knowledge but thats what that was.

[@michaelwhite8031]

Very interesting

[@ftumschk]

9:05 Interesting that "frawn" is similar to German "froren", which, when colloquially shortened to "fror'n" sounds more-or-less the same as the way Mr Haylock pronounced "frawn".

[@steveknight878]

My mother - who was, at one point, from Shudy Camps - used to say things like "it's looking a bit black over by Will's mother". She would also say something like "going all round the Wrekin" for going the long way round, or describing something rather circuitously. Something may be as "black as Dick's hatband".

[@diorsse]

thanks wilbur

[@aliencactus720]

in Norfolk 'Hold you hard' is 'Slow you down' well I guess both exist in both places to a degree