Suikoden Complete Series Retrospective

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@Xygor
@Xygor 2 жыл бұрын
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@omidiartgaming4102
@omidiartgaming4102 Жыл бұрын
I remember when I played this on my bro's old PSX, I thought it was a pita, because of the menu LOL. But the game ultimately was very enjoyable. Suikoden going into 3D space was just a move too soon imo... late 2000s, the combat landscape of JRPG has changed so much, turned based games were just not as interesting anymore in all honesty. I found myself playing more action JRPG than turn based. I think a lot of games just adapted to this a bit late and some just never got a chance.
@tacklebox_82
@tacklebox_82 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden II and IV are my favorite out of the ones I played. I could not get into III due to the separate stories. II was the first one I played and I really enjoyed the ship battles and story of IV.
@AngryCosmonaut
@AngryCosmonaut Жыл бұрын
I order them as 2, 5, 3, 1, 4. I replayed S5 a couple years ago on an emulator and was surprised how well it held up since its release, long prologue and weird 108 stars ending aside. Hopefully we'll get a 3+4+5 remaster (or at least a port) if this collection does well. If they do make a S6 I think I'd like it to be set in Armes rather than Harmonia, I feel like we need just another game or two before reaching Harmonia.
@tacklebox_82
@tacklebox_82 Жыл бұрын
@@AngryCosmonaut I have yet to play 5 but want to. What do you think of eiyuden chronicle?
@AngryCosmonaut
@AngryCosmonaut Жыл бұрын
@@tacklebox_82 Looking forward to it! Kickstarted it, looking forward to it! Looks like we'll be getting Suikoden in Spring and Eiyuden in the Fall/Winter.
@palpitateguy5764
@palpitateguy5764 9 ай бұрын
I came to this video because of the news of Yoshitaka Murayama.. Long live legend of suikoden and eternal thank you for creating this wonderful game!
@TheMiyazakiMan
@TheMiyazakiMan Жыл бұрын
Suikoden changed my life and as a big fan of yours, I am so happy you made this! I watched the Philoharmic Orchestra play a poem to Suikoden Live in October live this year for my birthday. Top 5 moments ever! The music, the characters, the story, just unmatchable! I am hoping 1 day for Suikoden 6. I would love to have you on as a guest on the Miyazaki Man podcast to talk all things games and Suikoden and your channel! Audience of up to 17,000 usually. Keep doing what you're doing, it is great stuff and truly valued!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the praise, and my fingers are crossed with you that there will be a Suikoden VI.
@johndemler838
@johndemler838 Жыл бұрын
I loved 3. The foray into 3D gave it such charm. The music was great, especially rhe victory fanfare. And I love the Trinity System. I'm actually playing this on ps2 today. 2 had the amazing cooking game, and 1 introduced me to exploiting in-game betting mechanisms. 4 & 5 I don't have fond memories of, but are still worthy of a playthrough. If there are more games, I haven't played them!
@HollowRick
@HollowRick Жыл бұрын
5 is definitely worth a playthrough it's the game of thrones of the suikoden series stay away from 4 tho it'd god awful
@Sugatonin
@Sugatonin Жыл бұрын
@@HollowRick agreed on. Suikoden Tierkries was really good too
@zakunick1
@zakunick1 Жыл бұрын
I made it a decent way into Tierkries. As soon as I realized it wasn’t connected to the others, I stopped playing. I bought a DS to play it.
@missingLEGACY
@missingLEGACY Жыл бұрын
If you can find a copy there is Suikoden tactics, which acts as a direct prequel to Suikoden 4. I also really love 3 btw.
@OMGmyFACE
@OMGmyFACE Жыл бұрын
Suikoden really got me into JRPGs and through some tough times, I'm always revisiting the first two _and_ I spent way too much on the Eiyuden kickstarter. I'll forever love this franchise so much.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
You and me both! Can't wait for Eiyuden Chronicle.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
@@doomlordkaka yep, can't wait!
@maldeventre
@maldeventre Жыл бұрын
@@doomlordkaka suikoden 1 & 2 are being remastered?
@ralphdelapaz119
@ralphdelapaz119 Жыл бұрын
Im playing through all the suikodens using emulators in my phone...just finished suikoden tactics and now starting suikoden 5 im currently at rainwall after the fall of falena
@maldeventre
@maldeventre Жыл бұрын
@@doomlordkaka ohh this is some good news thx! You made my day
@randalthor2859
@randalthor2859 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this one honestly. Suikoden 2 is definitely the best of the 3 I've played.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy then!
@gandix5516
@gandix5516 Жыл бұрын
My brother loved 3 the most by a large margin. It might even be his favorite game ever. I loved the story but had it 4th. 2-5-1-3-4. I absolutely loved the story in 5. Fantastic. I spent countless hours reading suikosource in high school n it’s such a shame it ended. I’ve gotten so many people into the series I almost feel guilty 😂
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your memories and glad you love the series too!
@missingLEGACY
@missingLEGACY Жыл бұрын
I've personally always had a hard time getting any of my friends to try it, so I've only gotten like one or two people into the series over the years.
@TheTomtaru
@TheTomtaru Жыл бұрын
they're actually rereleasing Suikoden 1&2 :D
@gandix5516
@gandix5516 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTomtaru I’ve beaten both games so many times, I’d be very interested in that. A small part of me is glad they didn’t continue the series. Once the person who originally had the Vision and story for that world is replaced, it could only lead to disappointing conclusions and many inconsistencies. Perfect example, Star Wars.
@dwyurr
@dwyurr Жыл бұрын
Suikoden 3 is one of my favorite games of all time excited to play 1 & 2 remasters on Switch, hopefully they all get remastered
@thetrustysidekick3013
@thetrustysidekick3013 Жыл бұрын
I don't remember much from when I used to play these games as a kid, but what I do remember is the feeling I felt when I did. I remember Suikoden 2 really making emotional when I finished the game. Ah what a time to be a kid back then.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
It was an emotional ending regardless of which one you got, for sure!
@mister-x2
@mister-x2 Жыл бұрын
Playing Suikoden 1&2 back to back is probably my favorite jRPG experience, and something I did several times because of the games are relatively short. I even tried to play the Suikogaiden visual novels despite not understanding japanese. I have very fond memories of 3 which I found to be very charming, and I liked 4 (despite being probably the lowest rated by fans and me hating maritime settings). By the time I played S5 and Tactics, I was already getting burned out on jRPGs and didn't even finish them. Looking forward to those remasters and Eiyuden.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Those two were indeed such a good back to back experience. Hoping Eiyuden recaptures that magic!
@brothergrok
@brothergrok Жыл бұрын
I burnt out on JRPG's a long time ago, so I feel ya. However, a bit off topic.... if you haven't played Persona 5 Royale, you're missing out! I was hooked. First JRPG i've played in years and I loved it.
@christopherross4763
@christopherross4763 Жыл бұрын
2 gets all the love and for good reason but I still love the protagonist from 1 and the Soul Eater rune.
@darthcravus
@darthcravus Жыл бұрын
And getting tir in your party. Is awesome in 2 and at one point both tenkai stars do a true runic unite
@friednoodle6582
@friednoodle6582 Жыл бұрын
I mean 2 is basically just 1 but better in every aspect of the game, my only disappointment in it is Luca wasn't the main Villain, although recruiting Tir in 2 remedied that for me. Yeah I know I'm contradicting myself.
@brentabel5094
@brentabel5094 Жыл бұрын
Yah but 12 year old me flipped shit when Viktor and flik showed up after I thought they died in the end of one.
@ericschauer5950
@ericschauer5950 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I love 5 it doesn't get enough love
@LEXICON-DEVIL
@LEXICON-DEVIL Жыл бұрын
Can you swap out the main character in your party cus he ugly lookin and everyone else looks so bad assss.
@joshuamcneely3028
@joshuamcneely3028 Жыл бұрын
I remember when the 1st one came out. It's one of my favorite games. I can't wait until the HD remastered games come out.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to try them.
@planescaped
@planescaped Жыл бұрын
I had no idea there was an HD remaster coming. Hell yeah, now I just need Breath of Fire 3 and Wild Arms on my Switch.
@joshuamcneely3028
@joshuamcneely3028 Жыл бұрын
@@planescaped it looks really good.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
@@planescaped Breath of Fire and Wild Arms both have spiritual successors coming too!
@reicherwallace6774
@reicherwallace6774 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden 4 holds a special place in my heart. I absolutely love tropical settings. Something about high sea adventures brightens my adventurous spirit.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Right on, IV was better than a lot of people think!
@reicherwallace6774
@reicherwallace6774 Жыл бұрын
@@Xygor It really is one of the smoother feeling games in the series. I remember my first time ever playing a Suikoden game was the demo for this game. So it actually got me incredibly interested in the series as a whole.
@datadrain6564
@datadrain6564 Жыл бұрын
I like how true rune story really well written in four Also the castle is big ship also a plus
@TheOldest
@TheOldest Жыл бұрын
With how successful Octopath Traveler became recently, it makes me happy that this type of presentation is being accepted and appreciated. I hope that means maybe we can bring back XenoGears and Tales of Phantasia with a similar uplift that keeps a similar presentation. Or just port them.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@MilichOppenheimer
@MilichOppenheimer Жыл бұрын
I just found out about this series maybe a month ago. I finished one and now I'm absolutely enjoying two. I can't wait to see what else this holds! Awesome time on the video drop for me lol
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm jealous you get to experience the series for the first time. A lot of sweet things are in store for you!
@Rangerijo51
@Rangerijo51 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden was the first RPG I've ever played, my childhood friend introduced me the 2nd game. I was hooked by it, played it everytime I was given the chance. that was the only game I played on my PS1 beside Harvest Moon: Back to Nature and Crash Bandicoot. I was in 3rd or 4th grade when it was released I can't remember. until now, Suikoden 2 is my most beloved game, I still played it over and over, and I'm planning to play it again on the remaster or the PS1 version after I finished my final thesis. in my country, the Suikoden fanbase is overshadowed by another J-RPG fanbases, so very few people I could share my thoughts about this franchise. Thank you for making this video! cheers~!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, and for leaving your Suikoden memories here!
@suchendelokidottir5673
@suchendelokidottir5673 Жыл бұрын
This series and Wild Arms are the games that made me a gamer. I wish they would adapt it to Android
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Wild Arms was a great series too...the upcoming spiritual successor to that should be fun too!
@Bonkikavo
@Bonkikavo Жыл бұрын
You can emulate it with some PS1 emulator or RetroArch, on android phone or dedicated handheld device.
@Sir_Moth
@Sir_Moth 11 ай бұрын
the explanations of every suikoden hit home with me 4 didnt deserve the hate 3 wasnt terrible but it lost its roots. I whole heartedly loved the video and i come back often to just listen.
@Xygor
@Xygor 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts! What a great series, huh?
@jonathanpenglase7661
@jonathanpenglase7661 11 ай бұрын
These games were some of my most favorite rpgs by far. I remember playing the first game was I was in my late teens when they first came out. They were also some of the first games I got for my father when I bought him his own PS1. Making memories with him playing those games really made them that much more special.
@Xygor
@Xygor 11 ай бұрын
Great memories! Thanks for sharing.
@FCEngine
@FCEngine Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The music in the Beyond Coast incident at the beginning of "Policenauts" where Jonathan's tether breaks off and he drifts into space is the prototype for the Suikoden battle bgm
@GAMASUTRA_ita
@GAMASUTRA_ita Жыл бұрын
in your retrospective on the Suikoden saga I agree 100% of the concepts you expressed. in my reviews of Suikoden 3, 4 and 5 many of the things you said are things I actually said too. you have all my respect in my opinion you are a true expert admirer of Suikoden (like me 😁)
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this feedback! Glad you enjoyed it.
@planescaped
@planescaped Жыл бұрын
I've read Outlaws of the Marsh a good 3 or 4 times over the years, all because I loved Suikoden so much. Wu Song is a total bro. The soundtrack to the Suikoden series I've always found to be rather forgettable personally despite people often lauding it. Though I do love Exceeding Love.
@Evanz111
@Evanz111 11 ай бұрын
Glad to see you give Suikoden IV some love! It’s my favourite in the series, partly due to the island, pirate and ship-based setting. Wish more RPGs would tackle that! It also had FANTASTIC sound design, I can still distinctly remember so many of the sound effects and the rune spell SFX.
@Xygor
@Xygor 11 ай бұрын
A better game than most people give it credit for!
@jaredadams8069
@jaredadams8069 11 ай бұрын
It's my personal favorite.
@BattleSKY8
@BattleSKY8 2 ай бұрын
Yes! More love for Lazlo!
@Evanz111
@Evanz111 2 ай бұрын
@@BattleSKY8 Medium length hair, bandana and a tattoo on the back of his hand - I love every part of his design ^^
@missingLEGACY
@missingLEGACY Жыл бұрын
On a random note, I have a theory that Jeane the rune sage is the true charm rune personified, kind of like how the Star dragon sword is the personified version of the true night rune, many men in the series become infatuated with her through seemingly no effort of her own, it is stated that one of the other characters saw her in the bath and she has no rune markings on her body, meaning that she is not a wielder of a true rune, and she is in both suikoden 3 and 4, two games that are removed from each other by almost two hundred years, implying that she is immortal.
@BPTNY
@BPTNY Жыл бұрын
My brother and I were very lucky to stumble upon Suikoden I during the magical time of discovery in used game stores before widespread home internet. We were instant fans and I personally remained loyal to the franchse owning all the original release games in the main series. It made me appreciate the shared universe all the more. My favorite is 2. No surprise there with 1 and 5 following. 4 gets a lot of hate but I thought it was really good. The ship setting just felt claustrophobic. The sprawling epic, did a fantastic job of potraying its characters in a politically affected fleshed out multi dimensional manner instead of good guy/bad guy tropes. One of the alltime great JRPG series and one of my favorites. Great work. If it wasnt for the fact that I'm already subscribed, this video would make me hit the button.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Right on! It was so fun to discover the first one, with so little hype, in the days before FF7. Thanks for the praise of the channel!
@altha21
@altha21 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden 4 is my personal favorite, because without it I would have never discovered and played the rest of the series.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Now that's a unique take! But glad to hear that was your starting point.
@nathan3859
@nathan3859 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden 4 was great. I only hated how many random battles there were.
@zakunick1
@zakunick1 Жыл бұрын
I just really like saying “ Lino En Kuldis”.
@RasenRendanX
@RasenRendanX Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Now I understand the Legacy behind this title I heard so much about it over the years but never played but also about the Eiyuden Chronicle trailer I was impressed by when it came dropped
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Can't wait for Eiyuden!
@RasenRendanX
@RasenRendanX Жыл бұрын
@@Xygor I do hope one day you make a video on Falcolm games! The Trails and Ys games in particular!
@DS4__
@DS4__ Жыл бұрын
Great video, I hope the series can keep going strong if the remasters + Eiyuden do well. Been playing through them all for the first time recently and I am loving Suikoden 5 the most while going through it, but 2, 1 & 3 were amazing experiences, especially 2! Don't think 4 is as bad as most people say either (love the music!), and I look forward to giving Tierkreis + Woven web a try one day.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I too hope the remasters and Eiyuden are great. I think there is more momentum for this series to continue now than at any point since it went defunct.
@DS4__
@DS4__ Жыл бұрын
@@Xygor For sure! It was the remaster announcement that caught my eye at first. Them after searching about what Suikoden was, it was the fans of the series putting out great content like yours which made me decide to give it a try and see why these games are so beloved, hope many others do the same!
@Grayald
@Grayald Жыл бұрын
One of my top franchises with the second game commonly holding the spot as my favorite game of all time. I love FF7, and it's also one of my favorites, but I was never a final fantasy fanatic. For me, it was suikoden and wild arms.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Two great series'! I will cover more Wild Arms games soon.
@rickmasten6957
@rickmasten6957 Жыл бұрын
Great content here! Been a long standing fan of the franchise since i was a kid and excited to see a breathe of new life into this series. I rank them as 2,1,5,3,4.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad to hear your feedback! I almost have the same order as you.
@Suikojunkie
@Suikojunkie Жыл бұрын
You always gave Suikoden its flowers that’s what i like about you. You did not wait for the remasters.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
I will still play them!
@ocrawford77
@ocrawford77 Жыл бұрын
They are making remasters?
@Suikojunkie
@Suikojunkie Жыл бұрын
@@ocrawford77 Yes indeed. Rumor has it they will release it March 9
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
@@ocrawford77 yes, I and II remaster is due sometime this year. I cover it toward the end of the video.
@redheero656
@redheero656 Жыл бұрын
I apologize for ending up breaking my original copy of Suikoden II, it was actually played to death.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Now that's a special achievement!
@drewscube
@drewscube Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video , suikoden series holds a special place in my heart ❤️ , and suikoden 5 will always be my favorite 😍
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Likewise in regard to love for the series! Glad you enjoyed it.
@delveling
@delveling Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information about the remaster, it is now on my WISHLIST for 2023!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Right on, mine too! Thanks!
@patrickrobinson545
@patrickrobinson545 5 ай бұрын
Thank you friend , i remember playing this game, number 2 over here in canada when i was a kid, Really cool main character and his main weapon which i didn't know about until i played this game and as a kid looking into what my main guy was using as his weapon!
@shaifs5072
@shaifs5072 Жыл бұрын
With 3 being my favorite, effen ouch. Not many anime stylized games gone into 3D yet and I thought the models were gorgeous. The story was simply epic. My favorite cast. I loved being able to have mounts.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
I still like it too!
@jammanastic
@jammanastic Жыл бұрын
so insane that I randomly found suikoden late 90's at a yardsale and i didnt know what it was but liked the cover so i bought it.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Kind of funny because of how cheesy the case for the first one was!
@jammanastic
@jammanastic Жыл бұрын
@@Xygor i liked it with lots of the characters in the middle
@TheZHMusic
@TheZHMusic Жыл бұрын
This is amazing - thank you so much! Really informative but also really relaxing to watch 🙂 I really like 5 but 1 is my favourite, I play it every year!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@andrewmorden9528
@andrewmorden9528 10 ай бұрын
Here to hoping the remaster of 1-2 sells enough to get this series a new game. I replay these titles at least once every couple years.
@Xygor
@Xygor 10 ай бұрын
Right on, agreed!
@tywentworth4694
@tywentworth4694 14 күн бұрын
I remember playing 4 at my uncle's in middle school on his PS2 and this was a random game he got from his friend. I loved it as soon I started, I remember being stranded on an island and refusing to leave then the characters portraits changed to a notebook looking sketch version of them 😂
@dominikschwarz1200
@dominikschwarz1200 Жыл бұрын
Oh man this brings me back. After 5 minutes of watching i just wnred to play Suikoden once again...
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Great to hear it! So many great memories from it.
@DanielAbarientos
@DanielAbarientos Жыл бұрын
favourite series by far. had to search for years to get a physical copy of 1 & 2. Suikoden 2 still the best in series by far! great job on this
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@Sir_Moth
@Sir_Moth Жыл бұрын
my profile picture says it all 1 resonates with me more than any of the others do. 2 was better for gameplay 3 was a spit in the face with combat 4 made me feel tinglys getting back to the roots and 5 hit hard. tactics was fun but your right on all points.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
I appreciate these memories! Did you shed a tear at Mathiu's fate at the end of Suikoden I?
@jeffjackson9679
@jeffjackson9679 Жыл бұрын
Great summary of the series. Never played the first 2, so i can't comment on those. Agree with you on the main series for the PS2. Could never get into 3. Beat it, but had no desire to replay it, even years later. Game just felt like it dragged on too long. Part 4 (like you said) doesn't deserve all the hate it gets. It was very short, you can get to the final boss within 20 hrs. of gameplay, although you will probably have to grind a bit to beat him, wish they would have fleshed out the MC better, he had the personality of a doorknob, still a solid game, better than 3 IMO. 5 was a masterpiece, one of the best stories in any RPG I've played. Other than the slow starting, and towns that are overly huge without purpose, still a great game. Would disagree with you on Tactics, I have to admit you have to like Strategy JRPGs (like FF Tactics) to like this game, but I thought it was a great game. It IS hard, which may turn off some people used to the ease of getting through the main series of the game, and you will probably have to do some grinding. Yes, the battles are long, but that is the norm for these type of games (same could be said for FF Tactics as well as the Valkyria Chronicles series), but if you want a challenge, this is a good game to pick up. But it's not for everyone.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
I appreciate all these thoughts. Sounds like we agree on a lot. I know a lot of people like Tactics more than I and I respect that.
@dracogeneious8613
@dracogeneious8613 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden 2 is and always will be my favorite video game of all time, It was so formative for me. The ways that it innovated at the time that it did, with the breadth that it had is just so crazy; with all of it's diverging ways to enjoy it and not in a grind your face off way. If I could ever nominate a game to be placed on a shelf next to great works of literature it would absolutely be Suikoden 2, It really is the zeitgeist for the entire series. It's the story they wanted to tell in the first place, and it is so compassionate and real. I could not be any more hyped for Eiyuden, between that, the remasters, Armored Core, and Elden Ring, Finally. Some truly good-for-the-right-reasons games.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Hard to disagree with this take. So many aspects of that game, especially in regard to the characters and story, still stand out.
@densha63
@densha63 Жыл бұрын
Hello and Happy New Year! My all-time and personal fave will always be Suikoden 2 and 5. Suikoden 4 and 5 I think are underrated seeing the sales record, specially 5. Not sure if it's because it was released very late in the PS2 life cycle. In terms of the story, I love all of them. But in terms of the gameplay and battle system, Suikoden 3 felt the weakest for me followed by 4. Moving forward, I am looking forward for Eiyuden Chronicles as well as the Reworked Suiko 1 and 2.
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha Жыл бұрын
The first game is my favorite, can't wait for the remasters to get on steam. At the time I was way more into Western rpgs (Ultima, Wizardry, old Elderscrolls, etc..) but Suikoden blew me away, loved it! I found Suikoden and Vandal Hearts to be my favorite games from the PS1 era :)
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your feedback, it's really hard to beat the first game. So many awesome things about it when there were virtually no RPGs on the PlayStation. I reviewed Vandal Hearts too and the series, check it out!
@MattMundane
@MattMundane Жыл бұрын
Much love. Suikoden 5 was definitely my fav
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
That one is overlooked by a lot of people!
@buddharj
@buddharj Жыл бұрын
Playing Suikoden 1 and 2 back to back is the way to go
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is the best way to dive into the series!
@roninronreacts1870
@roninronreacts1870 Жыл бұрын
I like all of them to a point. Suikoden 1was the first rpg i got for Ps1 and has been my favorite rpg since. I played all 5 again last year. 1, 2 and 5 are amazing. 3 is really fun and vibrant. 4 is a slog and i only like it after about halfway through. Anytime i go to play them again, 4 is the only one i dont look forward to. Great video, love it. Look forward to the remasters and eiyuden.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the praise and your thoughts on the series!
@ianpitkin6324
@ianpitkin6324 Жыл бұрын
That was awesome. Thanks so much. 2 is my favorite but I can't play it through without beating 1!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@JohnOethGuitar
@JohnOethGuitar Жыл бұрын
So excited to watch this. Thanks for the amazing vids!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! Hope you enjoy this one too. Which was your favorite Suikoden game?
@JohnOethGuitar
@JohnOethGuitar Жыл бұрын
@@Xygor 2!
@missingLEGACY
@missingLEGACY Жыл бұрын
I found Suikoden 3 when I was 14 a couple of years after it came out, and fell in love with it. When I became an adult I searched out copies of the remaining numbered titles as well as tactics.
@missingLEGACY
@missingLEGACY Жыл бұрын
After playing all of them 3 is still my favorite, but all except Suikoden 4, and tactics are in my top 10 games of all time.
@missingLEGACY
@missingLEGACY Жыл бұрын
Still love them as well but I don't feel that they live up to the other games in the series.
@mikemccoy1980
@mikemccoy1980 Жыл бұрын
My favorites are always 1 2 5 for me and bro loved this video made my day keep up the great work man I always look forward to these types of videos
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Hope all is well.
@IveBeenWithBruma
@IveBeenWithBruma Жыл бұрын
2 just had one of the greatest villains of all time. Required an ambush 18 of the 108 stars and then a 1v1 against half of a true rune. Even then he allowed himself to die when he still could've killed the hero. Luca Blight was just built different.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Yeah, 2 really did have great villains, and I love how the story narrative spent so much time on them. There aren't many RPGs that actually focus on the villains and I think that's a mistake.
@xainudin108
@xainudin108 8 ай бұрын
Great video! I really enjoyed this comprehensive retrospective on the Suikoden series. It's clear that a lot of effort and passion went into creating this content. As a fan of classic RPGs, I appreciate the in-depth analysis and insights provided. Keep up the fantastic work, looking forward to more content from your channel!
@Xygor
@Xygor 8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bashelbash4697
@bashelbash4697 3 ай бұрын
Love these games. It was all about the story and music for me. Loved 1, 2 and 5 but they all hold fond memories and should be played if you get the opportunity.
@gix47
@gix47 7 ай бұрын
Best game ever, still replay all of them once a year.
@theclimbto1
@theclimbto1 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden was my favorite RPG when I started playing it... and THEN I got a Castle and it became the Best RPG EVER!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Can't beat the castle building, can you?
@aldoushuxleysghost
@aldoushuxleysghost Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite JRPG franchises. It's hard to pick a favorite, but I'd say it's either 2 or 5. I enjoyed all of them, including Suikoden IV and Tactics. Having said that, I still haven't played the Nintendo DS offering. I do have a DS, so I have no reason for missing it, I just never did
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Right on, 2 and 5 are really great! Hope you enjoyed the video.
@featuringdez7456
@featuringdez7456 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see more amazing suikoden videos! 3&2 r my favs although 3 is heavily underrated.Hope more people give it a go. I adored the trinity play style. Offered varying viewpoints to the narrative. Reminds me of a Tarantino film. Plus some of my fav writing in the series. Best writing definitely belongs to 5 which is my 3rd fav.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Never heard it compared to the Tarantino films before, but that makes sense!
@justinm5907
@justinm5907 5 ай бұрын
I discovered 2 by accident and played it first but to this day I love it. Dumping many hours at the time but I found going back to the first one Even at its prime was a struggle and I never got into any of the later games either. 2 will always hold a special place in my heart.
@relaxing6194
@relaxing6194 Жыл бұрын
5 made me realize how much I enjoy Suikoden.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Even though we didn't think it was the end of the mainline series, it was a great game.
@vincea2996
@vincea2996 Жыл бұрын
I remember buying the game at circuit city on clearance when ps one games still came in those huge dvd style boxes lol. I replayed it and finished it like 5-7 times.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
You must have really liked it too!
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 Жыл бұрын
I am glad Suikoden is finally getting a remaster!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Yes, and it looks awesome!
@AirshipFury
@AirshipFury Жыл бұрын
Yuber shakes in his boot when Hai Yo with 3 Killer Runes rocks up. lmao
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Have to respect it!
@teebo5298
@teebo5298 Жыл бұрын
Dam just somehow got recommended here . This was my child hood man . Growing up from ff2 and 3 to chrono trigger secret of mana . Progressing to the ps
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Mine too! Hope you enjoyed it.
@jf4156
@jf4156 Жыл бұрын
your content is incredible, absolutely love it
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Lots more to come.
@joshuaseidnitzer2062
@joshuaseidnitzer2062 Жыл бұрын
Ayeeee like #500! I love the Suikoden series and I can't wait for the future developments!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
There's more promise for the future of Suikoden than any other time since it went defunct I think!
@joshuaseidnitzer2062
@joshuaseidnitzer2062 Жыл бұрын
@Xygor Gaming It truly is an underrated series and even though 1 and 2 may be dated, I've still played them recently and they're still fantastic RPGs, maybe meant for beginners, but fantastic nonetheless
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
@@joshuaseidnitzer2062 yeah, I think I and II have actually held up a lot better over time than some of the games that tried to use 3D from this era though.
@Beodude123
@Beodude123 Жыл бұрын
I played all the mainline games throughout the years, but 4 was the only one I never beat. I'd like to revisit them all some day
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
It's worth revisiting, and held up pretty well!
@walkinzorochi9461
@walkinzorochi9461 Жыл бұрын
I had only played the first 2 and I loved them both, that's why I cant wait for the remaster. If they ever remaster any others I will check them out for sure.
@blob1024
@blob1024 Жыл бұрын
goosebumps hearing the stories explained, thanks for the video :)
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@superblanco444
@superblanco444 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen anyone else have the same pfp. Good taste!
@Sugatonin
@Sugatonin Жыл бұрын
I need a 3 remake. People really underestimate how good that story was, it was life changing for me. Percival has remained a favorite of mine since its release and its to the point I have two copies of the game
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Maybe someday!
@jayti6660
@jayti6660 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden 2 was the best one hands down. It just had a certain charm that made it so fun to play. The other ones were good too, but 2 was by far the best one.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
I tend to agree! Such a classic!
@TheHAMbOYZ
@TheHAMbOYZ Жыл бұрын
Love suikoden!! Arguably my favorite series!!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Wasn't it great?
@nickmussetter9931
@nickmussetter9931 Жыл бұрын
You need to make a video on the original Phantasy Star! Keep on rockin brother! Love the videos🙌
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
I will definitely do Phantasy Star games at some point. I really like 4.
@MrShiki1134
@MrShiki1134 Жыл бұрын
looking forward to the eyuuden chronicles
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
It's going to be lit!
@Henjo29
@Henjo29 10 ай бұрын
Suikoden was one of the first games I bought when I got my PS1 in '97. The game was used, but it was the reason for me to buy the system. Though it might be hard to believe, I was way more invested in the story and characters than FF7. FYI you could run in Suikoden 1 with a character who has the Holy Rune equipped. If Stallion is in your party (he has the True Holy Rune) you can even run on the world map.
@ssaunders1122
@ssaunders1122 Жыл бұрын
So suikoden and I have a rough history but I still absolutely adore the game. For some reason (I think I spilled something on the old one) I didn't have a memory card. I got to either the first or second army battle and lost. It was a bit before I picked it back up. But after I did man what an awesome game. Getting every character was awesome. Can't wait to play it again in 2023.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine playing any RPG without a memory card, haha.
@ssaunders1122
@ssaunders1122 Жыл бұрын
@Xygor Gaming thankfully we don't really have to worry about such things as memory cards or sticks anymore. Hdd/ssd are great things.
@zakunick1
@zakunick1 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden III was my introduction to the series, and will always be special to me. Then I played 2 before 1. So I’m excited for the re-release to play them in order!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Great! The rereleased versions really look like they're going to be great.
@zakunick1
@zakunick1 Жыл бұрын
@@Xygor I can’t really see how they’d manage to mess them up. I hope I don’t eat these words!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
@@zakunick1 Haha, they better not!
@SegaCDUniverse
@SegaCDUniverse Жыл бұрын
Suikoden 1 and 2 were phenomenal, they should be up there in terms of the love Chrono Trigger and FF VI receive.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
They really are of that highest quality. A lot of RPG fans agree with you.
@kidkytes6233
@kidkytes6233 Жыл бұрын
You don't need to have all 108 stars in Suikoden 1 to unlock Tir McDohl in Suikoden 2, you just need to load a file which was saved at the last save point in Gregminster. Having all 108 stars in Suikoden 1 changes which character will be with Tir in Suikoden 2 and includes more bonus scenes to. Great video! Suikoden 3 was never released in Europe so hopefully one day it'll get a HD re-release and I can experience it.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
I actually didn't know that, I thought sure you needed to have all 108 stars. Thanks for letting me know this.
@kidkytes6233
@kidkytes6233 Жыл бұрын
@@Xygor No problem! Not having all 108 stars, Ellie from the inn in Banner Village takes the place of the character we all know and love guarding Tir when he is fishing. It's pretty much her purpose in the game.
@JeremiahEcks777
@JeremiahEcks777 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden 3 was given a UK release on PSN in 2015 and might have been in other EU areas. I know it was in the UK because I have it and still play it.
@NN-xq2by
@NN-xq2by Жыл бұрын
im glad i found you. thank you for the recaps.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Many more to come!
@LucaBlight25
@LucaBlight25 Жыл бұрын
Growing up during the ps1 era, i was more engrossed and captivated with 2d sprite based JRPGs like Suikoden (specifically 2) than the 3D Final Fantasy games that was all the rage at the time. And i think the reason for that was simply because the 3D technology just wasnt there yet, and i loved watching anime back then, so naturally the art style of sprite based games were more appealing to me
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
That was the best way to do that! I think today’s HD2D games are kind of a vindication of that.
@JmoneyCrypto
@JmoneyCrypto 9 ай бұрын
Great video! I know you said 3 was not your Fav game. For me it was. It was the first Suikoden game i played so that is prob why i have a soft spot for it. . For me it goes 3, 5, 2, 1, 4. But i am looking forward to the new remakes and maybe with those it will change my mind! Keep up the great videos!
@Xygor
@Xygor 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, I know a lot of other people who like 3 too! And thank you!
@charles7164
@charles7164 Жыл бұрын
I will never forget how I got this amazing game. Back in the 90s my best friend lend Suikoden for another game to a kid in school. The kid then wouldn't return the other game to my friend. They fought multiple times over this, in the end my friend just gave me Suikoden because his mom was forcing him to return the game even though the other kid "lost" my friends game. I remember looking at the box art and thinking "wow this game looks like trash" how wrong I was.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a total victory for you! Haha.
@charles7164
@charles7164 Жыл бұрын
@@Xygor yeah, amazing memories and an amazing game.
@DavidOConnor44
@DavidOConnor44 Жыл бұрын
Love the longer form content!
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@KabutoRyu
@KabutoRyu Жыл бұрын
I'm NEVER TIRED OF SUIKODEN love the game
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Isn't it an unforgettable series?
@KabutoRyu
@KabutoRyu Жыл бұрын
@@Xygor yes it is, and i will buy it again when S1&S2 remaster on steam got release
@zidanetribale7729
@zidanetribale7729 Жыл бұрын
Suikoden series have the most epic storyline ever in JRPG, i like Suikoden 2, 3 and 5, the story are so heart breaking especially Suikoden 5, such tragic fate for our hero Frey in Suikoden 5
@Phillyphantomx
@Phillyphantomx Жыл бұрын
Yessss Next year something coming out can't wait.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Can't wait!6
@Just_normal_youtube_channel
@Just_normal_youtube_channel Жыл бұрын
“So, you like Suikoden!”
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
I do!
@LeonisRegulus
@LeonisRegulus Жыл бұрын
Suikoden 5 is my favorite
@drokus
@drokus Жыл бұрын
I traded some magic cards for a Playstation and suikoden 2 back in the 90s. Still my favorite game of all time
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you didn't trade Black Lotus!
@reindrops-izm33
@reindrops-izm33 2 ай бұрын
Suikoden 2 was my first rpg back when my family still had a PS1. My bro and his friends defeated the Mist Monster while I couldn't. We even celebrated that we killed the boss and went to Kyaro only to realize our memory card was broken so we couldn't save. Then finished both 1 and 2 emulated on our PSP. I still laugh at how 2 screwed up Tir's name on 2 lmfao.
@mxrocketbeats
@mxrocketbeats Жыл бұрын
i only played the first back in the day, but the 5th one looks fire af might have the check it out
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Give it a try!
@nathanmadden6691
@nathanmadden6691 Жыл бұрын
so cant wait to play the suikoden remaster in a couple months
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that will be great!
@RoseFlavoredLemonade
@RoseFlavoredLemonade Жыл бұрын
Suikoden 3 was my first step into the series since that’s the only one my father had when I was younger. So, while I disagree with 4 being the better title, I will say that it’s probably because I feel a strong sense of nostalgia for 3.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Fair enough, I respect your take! Glad to hear the opinions of fellow fans on the series.
@TMD316
@TMD316 Жыл бұрын
The best Suikoden is objectively 2. But my favorite is 4. So fully underrated.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who agrees with me on 4 being underrated!
@TMD316
@TMD316 Жыл бұрын
@@Xygor it's absolutely fantastic! Soooo much better than 3. Definitely called back to its roots. When you said that I'm the video, I paused to celebrate with my roommate. Lol. 4 had a few shortcomings, but it's SUCH a good game!
@J.O.Double.Z
@J.O.Double.Z Жыл бұрын
it is always nice to hear people praising Suikoden II, one of my top 10 games of all time. I think I totally agree that Suikoden III is the least favorite as I struggled to push myself to complete it. it was boring and I felt disconnected from the main characters. unfortunately, I did not play 5 although hearing that it is one of the best in the franchise.
@Xygor
@Xygor Жыл бұрын
Right on, sounds like we agree on several aspects of the series. It really looks like the upcoming Eiyuden Chronicle will borrow a lot of concepts from II.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 Жыл бұрын
I remember when a teen playing these games when I had the chance to come across them and wondering how Final Fantasy VII seemed to be the only one most people knew. It always felt like people were extremely limited in what RPGs they played or very specific. Aerith hit people hard while Suikoden had a character have to fight and kill his own father and lose friends. Still undecided if it was the mainstream effect or most passed other JRPGs over, but time certainly did show sprites aged the best while early 3D ventures need a full makeover.
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