Sully's doghouse: Service or post-service addition??

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Buffalo and Erie County Naval & Military Park

Buffalo and Erie County Naval & Military Park

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@roberthilton5328
@roberthilton5328 4 ай бұрын
Shane, it's great to see the follow-up video and confirmation it was added after the Sullivans came to Buffalo. Thanks!
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
You're welcome Robert! Happy to do it, and thanks for your continued contributions!
@jeffgrier8488
@jeffgrier8488 4 ай бұрын
That's why it's so great to have photographic evidence! Thanks Shane!
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, Jeff! So important to have this evidence!
@BryceKant
@BryceKant 4 ай бұрын
I remember visiting the ship as a teenager in the late 90s and wondering why there would be a non-watertight door leading outside on the main deck, when there was a hatch and door inside and close by. It never made sense to me and I remembering wondering why the Navy would do such a thing. Question answered (in part)! An answer 20-something years in the making! Thanks for the follow-up Shane! I really enjoy and love how you guys interact with the viewers and members and go out of your way to show we are really being listened to. I guess the question is now: Who the heck put it there and why?
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Bryce, thank you for your comment and your compliment of our interactions! It's appreciated. Yeah, it was a weather protector no doubt...when the hatch was open (which would have been whenever visitors were on board, the weather would go down into the aft fire room, where that hatch leads. Think of it as a large steel umbrella for the deck opening. I'd like to remove it, and bring some more authenticity back! Appreciate it as always!
@rclooking99
@rclooking99 4 ай бұрын
Excellent (and fast) detective work! This brings up a general question: how do you "mark" post service additions so that when our grandchildren are taking a tour, they can understand that the "doghouse" came into existance after the ship had been converted to a museum?
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Great question, rclooking99! We haven't been great on indexing museum ship additions, but I will be working to correct that over the next couple of years! Appreciate it as always!
@kennethhummel4409
@kennethhummel4409 4 ай бұрын
Thought so. I’ve seen that kind of addition done to other museum ships to try and keep foul weather out of a moored vessel. Does that quarter face a direction that a lot of wind, rain and snow comes from in Buffalo?
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Great thought, kenneth! You are correct - that is the weather side...especially when the ships were bow to stern. It got the full brunt of the weather. Now, there is some protection with Little Rock nested outboard of it. No doubt it was for weather protection!
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts 4 ай бұрын
Looking good Shane ship is looking better every time.
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much as always, Jaysqualityparts! Appreciate your continued support!
@ghost307
@ghost307 4 ай бұрын
One look at the hinges and the hole for the doorknob tells me that it was unlikely to be there when the ship was in service. That doesn't look like the way that the Navy does things on deck.
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Agreed...first glance says "No way"...but, it's always better to have evidence to back it up...for example, it could have been built yard workers when Sully had her last dry dock in March, 1965. Thankfully the evidence shows no!
@-Cece
@-Cece 4 ай бұрын
Video idea.... Do a "prep for drydocking" series. Quick segments on all the moving pieces (pun intended) before USS The Sullivans and USS Croaker move out of the Buffalo River.
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Great idea, Cece. Steven and I have talked about this...doing like a "behind the scenes" - kinda like what football and hockey teams put out during draft time...the conversations, meetings, et cetera! Thank you!!
@garywayne6083
@garywayne6083 4 ай бұрын
Very cool! Keeps the rain out so you don't have to latch the watertight door
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Very true! that hatch leads to the aft fire room, which before the sinking was on the tour route, so it would have been open all day for visitors no matter the weather. There is the original shield, but it was expanded out. Thanks again as always, Gary!
@stevenedington6265
@stevenedington6265 4 ай бұрын
If that was to have been added after it was a museum ship then it was most certainly not there when the Sullivans was in mothballs in the 70’s. I remember being mored just aft of the Sullivans in the back basin of the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in 75 or 76. We tried our best to perpetuate the ghosts stories about The Sullivans.
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Agreed and thanks for continuing the story of "Spooky Sully"!
@justgetitthere
@justgetitthere 4 ай бұрын
How doing a video on the pt boat ????
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Here you go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJaqopSBp9WDjZI kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXOkcpWdr6mZfpo kzbin.info/www/bejne/a57Pi2OcfNerhKc
@SamuelJKatt99
@SamuelJKatt99 4 ай бұрын
Just a question- if you find something like this which was added after the ship was in service, do you mark it as such so visitors and museum staff know?
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, but we haven't been very good at that index. I'm hopeful with our KZbin documentation this is the beginning of me creating that index...and maybe over the winter I will be doing this in earnest! Thanks for your support!
@jwilder47
@jwilder47 4 ай бұрын
Any clue why the museum would have built the doghouse over the original WTD?
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
The deck hatch right there was open because before the sinking that part of the ship (aft fire room) was on the tour route, so the deck hatch was open every time visitors were on board - from March to November. So, they probably found that it was allowing weather to go into the hatch and down into that space. So, it was for weather protection. Now that those areas are not on the tour route, i would like to revisit this, and remove it! Thanks for watching!
@keithrosenberg5486
@keithrosenberg5486 4 ай бұрын
Why would the 'dog house' have been added? Speculate please.
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
For weather to protect the hatch when it was open, which it was all the time because of our tour route prior to our sinking. That deck hatch was always open when visitors were on board and it probably took the brunt of the weather, and weather - whatever it was would go down the hatch into the aft fire room.
@jbellos1
@jbellos1 4 ай бұрын
How does that structure fall into your interpretation year - 1962, correct? Why was it presumably needed? What is it's purpose today? If it is not needed you should consider having it removed, it's ugly.
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
jbellos1, thanks as always for your support! It doesn't fall into our interpretive year is the best and easiest way of describing it. There is an original shield outboard of the doghouse, so I am looking to have the rest of it removed, possibly during dry dock!
@jbellos1
@jbellos1 4 ай бұрын
@@BuffaloNavalParkthanks! It's removal is warranted for many reasons and as a small side project during her dock period makes sense.
@TimNesSmith
@TimNesSmith 4 ай бұрын
Why is it called "the dog house?"
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Your handle picture says it all, TimNesSmith! : ) Anyway...a doghouse is slang for an addition to give added headroom near a hatch. We also have two doghouses on the fantail of USS Little Rock that protect the hatch and the prevent weather incursions. Hope this helps!!
@ghost307
@ghost307 4 ай бұрын
@@BuffaloNavalPark Probably more acceptable than calling it a cat house. 🤣
@MrJeep75
@MrJeep75 4 ай бұрын
Time to remove it and make it back original
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
Agreed! Thanks MrJeep75! This can be a project during dry dock!
@stevenedington6265
@stevenedington6265 4 ай бұрын
If that was to have been added after it was a museum ship then it was most certainly not there when the Sullivans was in mothballs in the 70’s. I remember being mored just aft of the Sullivans in the back basin of the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in 75 or 76. We tried our best to perpetuate the ghosts stories about The Sullivans.
@BuffaloNavalPark
@BuffaloNavalPark 4 ай бұрын
You're correct stevenedington6265! It was added post-1986! Thanks for watching!
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