Summit grills NA CSGO Teams

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Summit (summit1g) speaking the brutal hardcore truth on NA (north american) csgo teams.
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[@onionboy5673]

We all know the reason he doesn't want to talk about female teams is because he'd get shit on for telling the truth.

[@ghostmalones]

What is the "truth" about female teams? That any pro guy can put on a wig like Juana man and own the entire league?

[@onionboy5673]

The truth is they're getting paid for doing shit all and getting rekt by Tier 100 male teams

[@ghostmalones]

So yeah, pretty much being not as useful when a guy can just put on a wig and outplay everyone.

[@gawdstockton483]

It's called Gynocentrism.

[@Xipingu]

Wruce Bayne Watching how they play, I agree. It is sadly the truth.

[@bishwhat6554]

look at olofmeister for an example, he eats, lives and breathes counterstrike.

[@SCORPAIN88isme]

+Huey Yang and he gets pooped on in FPL

[@mattthetruthsefo7651]

+The iPaytonian but wins every title there is + beinbg the number 1 player in the world when it comes to lan/online official matches... FPL is just like a pug but with pros that dont troll and actually play serious... thats all

[@BenterKoux]

People are so stupid. You should watch him more than once. You can actually see him being as impactful as he is on LAN and other matches often. It is just that he doesnt play his role. He often plays with awp and tries out new stuff. so pls

[@jmanj0sh]

+Ta Ziel Yeah, he's definitely trying to improve on the roles he isn't already good enough on. Olof isn't the best in the world at any particular role, there is very few people better with rifles, WAY better awpers, etc etc etc. Olof is just good at everything though, and way more knowledgeable about the game.

[@SCORPAIN88isme]

I wasn't saying he's bad based on online matches I was just saying he goes through the online beatings to get better and learn more about the game

[@jhodess]

the fact that he can concentrate at his plays and talk sensitive shit is beyond me.

[@frieddayfriday]

+Jonathan Hodes well he's been doing this for a long time.

[@kalin962]

+Jonathan Hodes well he is playing esea so no rush :D

[@jungle_cs]

I wouldn't call this a roast.... I'd say that he is 100% right, it is their job as professional players and for them to lose so much is kinda dumb

[@notimportant9137]

+James Murray more so a rant if anything.

[@juxtin8802]

Even though summit has a history in the competitive scene, as of right now he streams a variety of games 40+hrs a week and still can compete with these salary pros in fpl

[@marcomedicates5798]

NA teams just don't care enough to get better or try harder

[@awfulaim912]

+Justain Collazo "b-b-but I play worse when i play more cs!" that's because NA attention spans are shit, and they start to lose focus after 5 pugs. They never realize that they can actually condition themselves to train 8 hours a day. Mentally they're out of shape and that imo is the biggest reason why they're still so far behind. The lazy get lazier.

[@several.]

+Justain Collazo A salary pro wtf XD

[@KARUMAcsgo]

wow, summit doesnt stream 4 hrs a day, he streams 8 hrs! Wow! i can do that ez, would be a dream. i enjoy games with a shitty pc, 10 hours everyday. Imagine wiith a monster like his.

[@banterking8973]

THIS MAN. THIS MAN IS 27 YEARS OLD, A FORMER CS PROFESSIONAL AND FULL-TIME STREAMER. This man speaks the truth about why NA are literally a joke and I don't even mean that in a hateful way, NA teams have so much potential which is just wasted.

[@MoofyDoof]

Guess NA will always be trash at everything :(

[@banterking8973]

+Alex .C (Cold424) in terms of esports (-Dota2 EG) yes. They need a bit of motivation

[@lunox4083]

+Alex .C (Cold424) Only thing we're good at Is Console eSports. Call of Duty and Halo we're the top at, but that's because those NA pros actually grind the game at least 8 hours a day, minimum 6 days a week. NA CS could be the same, but they don't.

[@banterking8973]

+Lunox ahem, Evil Geniuses DotA 2. That's about it though.

[@banterking8973]

+SpikyTortoise Thats a fair statement but think about the reality. Summit could probably compete AND still perform better than most NA teams. It's a pretty method for NA teams and that's if you aren't giving your 100% into a game, you can't expect to beat a Tier 1 EU team e.g. Fnatic, Natus Vincere

[@PuttiaMDotADayS]

Summ1t mentioned that automatic one of the best players back in March. And now he is MVP of ESL season 4.

[@spuddie]

Павел Гатилов yeah liek the asian duo is op now

[@GameVids321]

Павел Гатилов Yeah I was just about to say how good Autimatic has became

[@MebremHD]

nice. ( sorry about my english )

[@honeybonnney]

dude

[@halfofakebab1659]

suh

[@theoneandonly1euro.727]

*It's okay.

[@crashingcrows5939]

Torq MB you're good (sorry about my English)

[@IglooCrafter1]

k (sorry bad Russian)

[@ludvighallstrom5585]

summit streams 8 hours a day and is able to compete vs the fulltime pros (in fpl) ...

[@SCORPAIN88isme]

+Ludvig Hällström *N/A fulltime pros

[@giopi8900]

+The iPaytonian nope both he's actually really good

[@ZakLobos]

+Lanesh Not applicablePewPew

[@MichaelBrown-th2hk]

Good doesn't lose a 1 v 0

[@daarmy1]

"Summit grills NA CSGO Teams" now: Summit went pro and grilled himself

[@seanmacnamara4049]

Hiko is another good example. Runs his stream and plays while team pracing and getting better

[@NickandStuff]

"They're not playing enough counterstrike" something that I wish my mom would say

[@rikolash8755]

+ItsNickkk Why, are you a pro? And why do you wish your Mom wants pro cs players to play more CS?

[@NickandStuff]

Who r u talking to

[@NickandStuff]

I can't see other posts ;-;

[@Agentchow99]

I bet a lot on CSGO, and one thing of the main things we look for is how much a team has practiced. Summit is on point with his emphasis on practice

[@craigbeade8654]

7:50 Stew is looking pretty buff...

[@einaraglen]

+Greg Erble HAHHA

[@notjackiechan2848]

+Greg Erble sgares BODY OP

[@crashingcrows5939]

Greg Erble Hahaha didn't even notice that!!

[@nick851]

Its kinda true the female league is a joke and so are the players they are like novas

[@speedweedw]

+AGNick novas xd

[@nick851]

+Caden Burke yup and sadly their pay =/= skill.

[@JoeBonny9]

actually I play a 1v1 server and there is nearly always this female pro going 30-0 with godly aim

[@nick851]

+roSayy * lol funny + 1v1 dont mean anything in always 1st arena its easy

[@KillcamCinemasHD]

sexist............

[@ethangrant114]

He's 100% right

[@ScrewFearMe]

i would love to play against pros just to feel how bad i am at the game :P and maybe get some good pointers from them

[@simoneuboldi9702]

I agree

[@ScrewFearMe]

***** north american team so people from america

[@dmontillalee]

channel is amazing

[@mohaed96]

"Treat your full time job as a full time job" It's that simple...

[@frittatasTV]

oh wow, summit is a good speaker. Have seen him speak out in other videos too, he has tons of valid points

[@sakumayb9304]

you should learn english before you make video, its GIRLS not grills

[@Tramah]

+SaQ#10 sorry non englishy, j'mapple fromage.

[@sakumayb9304]

Tramah jk

[@aydenmonday1]

+SaQ#10 you obvs not familiar with twitch chat hahaha

[@MinecraftAlgeria03]

+Tramah Lool

[@DragonBallStrike]

+Tramah haha nicely done

[@josephBo]

LMAO when Stewie was cropped in that picture of C9 doing a team picture HAHAHAHAHA

[@plummyplumfer9272]

+Kai You so fany dude lol ! ! ! OLO ! ! !

[@josephBo]

+pain without love Quit being sarcastic

[@Agrestic]

+Kai You XD JEJ LOL

[@josephBo]

+The Serb Kek

[@rsim]

+Kai You Fuuuck I wish I saw the pic in the video before scrolling down to read the comment, cause that shit woulda been even funnier hahaha

[@WireShark]

And all that FPL play ended up Summit going full NA and doing the flame dance of death on match point :)

[@MrYEAUWISH]

+WireShark Hes not meant to be a pro player hes good really good actually but far from the actual "pro scene". But what he said about the real pro players out there lacking practice is true imagine n0thing stepping up practicing nonstop i swear to god he would be a beast. Same with alot of players out there atm !

[@customersupport1790]

I'm an Asian player but when the time comes, my rise will began to grow. Sum1tG speaks the truth. You need to eat, breath, and live Counter-Strike. Olofmeister is the BEST example of true grit and determination in practicing. He never surrenders and look what happens on his fruits of labor. It blossomed like a cake.

[@slumberingpierrot2967]

+Customer Support Your words are as dysfunctional as my boner.

[@customersupport1790]

Slumbering Pierrot Ah yes. The truth hurts, no? If yes, then why bother watching? Why bother commenting?

[@marxman863]

Customer Support He's saying your sentence structure is atrocious.

[@nobodyknowsimgay]

What's FPL?

[@Tramah]

+Eric Christiansen FaceIt Pro League

[@nobodyknowsimgay]

Thanks!

[@dag_the_pimple3859]

+Eric Christiansen no problem

[@eutalyx]

+Dag_the_nipple Dafuq you didn't even answer the dude?

[@dag_the_pimple3859]

***** thats what i want you to think.

[@InfraR3DEyes]

Lol, this video title is now too ironic xDDD

[@xXTrYhArrdXx]

Swag, Dazed, and steel, are like constantly consistent, I think that because they're banned, they want nothing more than to play. Swag, hasn't played professionally for a while right, but he is arguably still the best in na (fpl) without team practice he truly loves csgo you can just tell by the way he takes everything so seriously and the decisions in game and, he is never looked at as a weak link people look forward to having him on the team more so than probably anybody.

[@rse617]

+Tim Joe Yeah i think swag deserves to be unbanned, DaZed and steel not so much.

[@thekamotodragon]

+OZDropBear you don't think they deserve it because of their personalities tho, which obviously you can't judge them on CS wise

[@rse617]

thekamotodragon No its because they still to this day don't seem to understand the severeness of there actions, They play it off like it was no big deal and they copped a raw deal. swag on the other hand could be a great asset to NA cs and understands what he did was wrong and is extremely remorseful for it. He may be younger but hes more mature about it than DaZeD and steel combined.

[@thekamotodragon]

OZDropBear i mean tbh i don't care they did it, nor do i think it's worth a perma-ban, they should all have the opportunity to get back but valve fucked them over one mistake that they all made TOGETHER, so to say they deserve it is imo wrong, and to say one deserves an unban while others don't is also imo wrong, they all regret what they did equally, and they only regret it at all in the first place because they got caught, look at skadoodle he doesn't say anything about it, not even sorry, even though he got lucky he didn't actually get the skins for his throw and therefore didn't get banned for throwing, also im curious how you see dazed and Steel as more conceited than Swag as they all clearly regret their actions deeply, everytime they talk about it on stream you can feel the regret from all 3, and they are all still dedicated to the game and determined to be good even when banned, i mean all 3 have been #1 Fpl at one point or another, so i just don't see how your selective unbanning isn't about your dislike for Dazed/Steel personalities

[@TheWP120]

iBP is the only hope for NA

[@orehult8625]

sure

[@TheWP120]

Yeah s1mple really carried them xD jk but Liquid will never be an all amarican team they'll bring in Pimp and the have peacemaker.

[@TheWP120]

and sure Liquid might become a fantastic team, but what about Cloud9, opTic or TSM? What I'm saying is that one team isn't enough to represent ALL of NA

[@meowmeowmoogabenrules4854]

EleGiggle

[@NightReaperGaming]

+VvultasS doesnt matter that they arent full na, they represent na.

[@cg4059]

"I only know 1 smoke on mirage." - shroud in 2016

[@Damingo54]

Streaming is a big issue. The majority of the NA players stream 90% more then the EU pros. They might make a ton more money in the long run from streaming but when it comes to winning tourneys it hurts them.

[@glhf8756]

i just noticed they cut off seans head and just stuck stew on there.

[@wakegaming8210]

Shroud and s1mple are two great examples of NA players that put in the work. S1mple, for instance, put in 150 hours playing csgo in two weeks to prepare for the major

[@wayup8122]

And it shows

[@nqqbix6128]

How is shroud doing good when he knows 1 smoke on mirage ? It takes like 10 mins to check on yt all the smokes and than repeat them daily during 1 week and ba ba ! You know at least 20 smokes !

[@opnop6881]

I totally agree with you, but if you think about it he only needs to know one. Especially when you expect to be playing with either the same 5 guys or some of the highest tier players in the world. Regardless its easy to learn that stuff... its kinda sad he only knows one as a pro player

[@vZEskimo]

+nQQbiX When was the last time you ever saw C9 play a professional game on Mirage? They always ban it lol. He has no need to learn the smokes.

[@julianmanuel14]

+vZEskimo Your totally correct!! another example is navi. Do Navi have to know every cache smoke? in my opinion even 1 when they literally perm ban that map and the only time they play it is when a online league says you have to play this map, every other time its gone. just pointless to know a smoke on a map that you rarely play.

[@glimpsy4028]

+nQQbiX what does knowing smokes have to do with overall skill? and to add on, why learn a smoke on a map he never even plays on?

[@nqqbix6128]

ItsGlimpsy Yea smokes are pretty useless shit in this game, why should u even be using them if u can just go for aim duel everywhere, right ? 2nd one makes some sense (:

[@ThePowerOfScience]

Getting my bachelors in music education, the most important thing I learned from my professors is to get the trade.

[@slumberingpierrot2967]

+Mexie : D Never die alone

[@100eyez4]

since he is back on pro scene lets see how he does

[@AOGxproductionz]

Looks like summit was the one who got grilled :D

[@Shadowsphere1]

I've met and talked to the manager for C9's DOTA 2 team and the upper management relationship between their CSGO team and their DOTA team. Of course, in terms of players, the upper guys don't seem to have anything to do with the players on a more intimate level, though the manager I met was walking around a lot and I didn't see him with the team much (unless in a locker room where I couldn't get into). The guys in suits are more or less the ones who probably set up schedules of events and deal with finances if the team places. But I'm not an expert on the management of eSports, and I didn't inquire C9's manager about their practice methodology or off-time activities, so I could be talking out my ass here. I've only met and chatted with a single manager of a single team (and the DOTA 2 C9 isn't NA, soooo...).

[@robbiem8482]

he streams over 8 hours, yet still walked through fire. Just saying. But no, in all seriousness dude is right, NA players get paid too much and just don't care. Optic and liquid have done well recently and both had to get a European player to do so, probably not a coincidence

[@jambott5520]

the difference between EU and NA is so extreme, i played in america for a week and i ranked up 3 times from mge to lem...

[@thekjellar]

the top tier team in leauge of legends put in 10-12 hours of practice btw.

[@lorriereyes9836]

I feel like if summit hadnt walked through that fire he wouldve been great for Splyce

[@mars4386]

The fact tht I can go to school have sports practice and still play and prac with my team 5-6 hours a day

[@SomeOne-ex7hk]

Most League pros actually play around 10 to 12 hours a day, most of them have stated. They have scrims against rival teams for like six hours to eight hours and then they do strategy meetings, and -then- they que up to play. That's a lot of effort to put in, more than most regular jobs. I'd be dead on my ass after that.

[@WhyDidYoutubeDoThis]

Still rings true today. That's why optic and c9 are out of Dallas and North and G2 are advancing higher than NA teams

[@SlickDPS]

Maybe in Sports they don't play in the off season, in CS pros play all around.

[@LOLWTF611]

NA: didn't win a major, still got paid, feels good man.

[@LOLWTF611]

wait wut, so you say they need sponsors to win? or am i just taking that comment wrong?

[@LOLWTF611]

hahah

[@BrayPlays]

The way I have been going, I should be a pro in the next 2 or 3 years.

[@wadenurminen6236]

"hang around the beatch" with freakazoid innit just cracked me. FeelsBadMan

[@pfowler92]

After watching Optic completely choke two games they should have won last night, this seems like a fairly accurate representation of NA CS teams. I don't know about how much all players actually play, but the gap between the top EU and top NA teams is pretty sizeable, and that can't be just all about pure skill.

[@abc123number1america]

in starcraft 2 the players play for up to 16 hours a day. thats real dedication

[@TacticalBluez]

Ska is actually on point usually mid-top fragging.

[@Dyonvdm]

Summit is totally fucking right about NA teams, he litteraly spoke my mind in this video. And what he said about league teams its so fucking true, League is a bit different maybe but still. League teams put in 8+ hrs in soloQ on no practice days and even on practice days they do play it to stay sharp and just keep up to date and shit.

[@aquaticIntrovert]

Plus they have coaches, analysts, and a whole support staff whose job is to be on top of the meta, know what priority to have going into pick/ban, and relay all that to the players. It's getting closer and closer to "real" sports level of commitment now that there's enough money. Maybe with Majors being worth more things can start changing for CS as well.

[@atom1ix508]

A good example is Stewie, for me he seems like the type of guy that wouldn't enjoy playing counter strike until he's at the top.

[@bishwhat6554]

The only NA team that I respect is Luminosity Gaming. Fer, FalleN, FNX, Taco, and Coldera spend countless hours playing Counter-strike. They are working really hard compared to the lazy ass North American Teams. If you watch the Luminosity games, you can notice how strategic they play Counter-Strike. On the other hand, other NA teams just run around looking for aim duels instead of playing as a team. I am pretty sure teams like Cloud 9, CLG, Liquid and TSM do not even know the amount of smokes/flashes/mollies compared to Luminosity. But the number one reason why my favorite player is FalleN because he is a really nice guy and an amazing In Game Leader. He even used his own salary to get people from Brazil to join Tempo Storm. Which is not really heard of in E-Sports and in regular sports.

[@REZREZ1699]

+Huey Yang LG is not NA.

[@XxASBURYxX]

+Oliver Rez Whilst they are not from NA, they're a NA team, as thats where they play from !

[@nelaf]

+Huey Yang Sad thing is the best NA teams are from SA D:

[@REZREZ1699]

+Reece Asbury (IReeceI) Such a shit logic. they are from BR, that's why they are BR. If C9 moved to Poland, they aren't a polish team. is dupreeh a swedish player since he plays in Sweden?

[@that_imi_guy]

+Oliver Rez LG play in NA leagues = NA team

[@MrOwnage124]

Feed me my princess.

[@DemoNC]

I'm a silver and I probably spend more time in CS than these pros do. Whenever I get on my PC I go right on to CS or watch demos of Pros or demos of my games to see what I can fix. Or I watch winoutpro videos to learn about new smokes or strats. I'm considering joining Games Academy. That's just me though.

[@Projectpompeii]

hmu sometime.

[@ducks4798]

You're silver. Don't get ahead of yourself

[@DuMbSteP-rn2cd]

+Ducks what are you like pls dont say you are mg or nova its not much

[@Projectpompeii]

+::.DuMb.:: .::SteP::. I'm lem

[@DuMbSteP-rn2cd]

+Pompeii -Minecraft i didnt replay to you

[@socrattt]

"In real sports, they make you know your smokes and flashes." - NA CS:GO

[@kylepoper1352]

I feel the only people that try in NA are hiko and Sean Gares. While some disagree on Sean he was dming researching and making strats. Then hiko. No explanation needed

[@Moseshypnosis]

+kyle poper You can't say they're the only ones in NA trying. There's definitely others but they're stuck on shitty teams (roca from compLexity for example).

[@jmanj0sh]

+kyle poper Hiko doesn't play as much as he used to. You're obviously right about sg@res, that's the reason he left c9, he was the only one researching stuff about other teams. I think players like shroud put in alot of time into individual play, but not as much team stuff.

[@Moseshypnosis]

josh hamilton Well the only reason why shroud plays so much is because he streams; he plays hours upon hours for entertainment and for his own practice. However, since he is streaming, he might not be as serious and doesn't actually learn tactics.

[@jmanj0sh]

Nishanth Moses Yea, I know. Still playing/improving more than everyone else on c9

[@Moseshypnosis]

josh hamilton Yeah. Such a shame how bad N0thing's gotten. Like I understand he's the IGL but he still tries to play the lurker role, which he sucks at. Freak and Ska kind of struggle too.

[@lukerapley9053]

Now majors are 1Mill, that salary is nothing and the sticker money will not add up to what winning a major will give you.

[@kiroppi6687]

Look how on point Summit was in this video. Sick and Autimatic are two of the best players on arguably the best team in NA at the moment. It's because they practiced nonstop.

[@billylappin7020]

summit is right bet here is a better analogy :) playing pro matches is like taking a test in school then team practices is like IN CLASS review u kinda gotta go then fpl is like a after school study group playing counter strike and practicing is on ur own studying you should be on aim maps and learning smokes and flashes then applying them in all of what i have stated, fpl team practices and then pro matches you need alot of all of these to be the best in cs, just like u need to study in a group and by urself then go to the review in class to pass the test with not just good grades but the best grades in the class.

[@goat1760]

All of this is actually true, and the truth is what hurts the most.

[@iVollux]

He makes so many valid points in this video.

[@akeaek21]

Just a thing I was thinking the other day, you know that Skadoodle doesn't play 10 man's, he plays other games while not practicing. And he still rocks at cs go

[@ChickenButterAgent]

+Alex Rak He's been in a slump though quite recently. He's worse than he was in 2015

[@akeaek21]

For the past 3 weeks he can be named best awper atm in na

[@ChickenButterAgent]

Just because he had some good performances in online matches doesn't mean he is the best awper in na atm. Jdm has been in a bit of a slump but i still consider him to be the best awper in NA because he has been very consistently been topfragging in CLG. By your logic someone like f0rest could be the better awper than GuardiaN if f0rest was playing really good for a week and GuardiaN played like shit for a week

[@akeaek21]

+ChickenbusMC nah dude, you are saying about jdm about how he is constantly top fraging, do you even check the scoreboard of cloud 9 lately?

[@ChickenButterAgent]

It's mostly shroud from what i have seen but topfragging in a few online games does not make you the best awper in NA

[@j0rdeh]

Despite how true everything he said was, he can't expect to not get any backlash from saying all that

[@Brrrrrt]

Well, he got no backlash.

[@VelaSwift]

THANK you Tramah for putting this up. So much truth.

[@watson498]

But my question is this: If you play 40 hours a week minimum, how do you stay in shape? How do you stay fit? If you sit on a computer 40 hours a week MINIMUM, you're not going to get the necessary exercise to stay healthy. I mean, I get it that they're pro players and all, and that it's a full time job, but how do they expect to stay in shape?

[@F1r3GamingHD]

+So_Swag - Much_Wow 24 hours a day, 40 hrs=5 days of work. 2 days of rest (if 40 is minimum). KennyS practices 5-7 hours with the team and also plays mm/fpl. Its like people having full time jobs but how do they still exercise, cook, etc.. well they manage.

[@Arcky-ykcrA]

u know what i m saying?

[@roflbbqlolhs]

Love your videos, keep them up

[@FreshChasiubao]

+Tramah Looking to see some more 'Tramah' from you bro

[@jakubszanser3064]

For example AGG/ ex-vexed is a 2/3 tier . Their salary is shiet they get money when they win . But they are from Poland not from NA.

[@BM24DK]

Summit is like the Godfather of gaming... He speaks the truth

[@criticaldoza]

one word - professionalism.

[@polostone8876]

"you know what I mean/'m saying ?" YEAH Summit, WE KNOW

[@inorka907]

Practice does not make perfect. Perfect Practice makes perfect. Practice only makes you good.

[@narutofan9127]

Anthony Dibble no one is perfect

[@mowie1182]

im not even a pro and ive played 70 hours of csgo in the past two weeks. playing as much as i have ive gone from nova 1 to mge in 5 months.

[@duncangilbert622]

Yeah there just needs to be a shift towards complete professionalism.

[@LadyLucyna]

There's NA players. They think it's enough to just do team practice and then play with m0e. Then there's EU players. They literally play this game the whole day, trying to improve somehow, trying to get even better map knowledge and just learning from different situations. That's the big difference between NA and EU currently, that's why NA CS gets so much shit.

[@LFA3895]

I mean we saw what happened when s1mple came to NA he practiced non stop and was prob best "NA" player

[@BLTspace]

Great clip. Freakazoids recent interview with Thorin he said the same exact thing. NA players really just want to become pro, get the money, stream followers etc. They don't really care about beating the best in the world at cs. I like C9 and I remember Jordan saying a long time ago that you pretty much just maintain your aim and skills etc at that level. I get that to a point but that's kind of saying you can't get any better? Idk I feel like c9 is the poster boy for this.

[@안녕하세요-w3g]

thanks for uploading^^

[@Mehmet-uy8cr]

He has a big point. Compare JW with Skadoodle. Skadoodle cant rifle shit while JW has also great rifling skills. It is just a pain in the ass seeing the guy going glass cannon everytime when he has 5k money and skipping all utility putting his team down.

[@sidewaysfcs0718]

back in 1.6 mTw were known to parctice 2-3 hours a day, sometimes only 3 days a week, and they were the most consistent team from 2008 till 2011 making pretty much every top5 placing in every tournament. so the ammount of CS isn't the reason NA teams suck, it's personality, intellect, dedication and patience they lack.

[@joshuadmarion]

Back then there wasn't even competition lol

[@asiankid300]

You know what I'm saying?

[@jakecox1686]

i saw a comment in the twitch chat and it said thank god shrouds Canadian lmao Canada is considered North America

[@louee6675]

Most NA players don't treat it as their job but there is a select few that do.

[@yannasylvester4533]

what i don't get is you cant just play the game and be top level after all you can take a page from flusha's book and get a aimlock key

[@eliassimon7636]

Ska is like the best NA, obvious he should play fpl, just saying he's fucking insane

[@greatpradeep2307]

Have you seen his games lately rofl he plays 55 hours for 2 weeks lmao

[@elderbob4852]

+Pradeep Krishnan yea, ska doesn't play cs go that much, but is still a god at cs go

[@frousti3149]

+Elias Simon Yeah... c9 is losing all of their games and they play MM strats all the time and still they get a lot of money

[@nanoooooo]

less pugs, more pracc

[@flamingaroow59]

+Elias Simon He hasn't been performing at all recently. Sure he was really good during the summer but ever since fall hit he started to fall off. Now he sometime bottom frags on c9 who've completely fallen off except for Shroud.

[@pornhubhatesme]

It's so true, i feel people join NA teams to just get paid a lot for little work. And they are cocky enough to say they are better then EU

[@russian3783]

C9 fan, i'm telling you. Preach.

[@vertsabre]

this, 10,000%. If you want to be an e-sports player you should expect to work as hard as a traditional sports player. Annoys me like crazy.

[@avo4mole507]

There are League players who practice 11h day...

[@letsgokevsto]

Meanwhile people like Dev1ce rarely play CS outside of team practice.

[@inermoen]

some would say he grilled himself

[@dpon_7874]

i think a good example of player who just plays cs within team prac and occasional fpl would be ska. I never seem him playing fpl but maybe in a blue moon. This time last year i feel like he was a absolute monster against eu teams. Now its just kinda meh at the moment. Some say he's an awper so he cant really get better b/c his job is to just get pics off bombsites lol. imo of your not the number one awper in the world you always have time to deathmatch or atleast FPL. Just my opinion tho.

[@Brrrrrt]

Yeah, seems he lost a bit of motivation to play and get better

[@nitrored8207]

I agree I always hear shroud say in his streams that he is playing nhl

[@FlashFast07]

Yeah shroud said he rarely plays Cs outside team practice and matches

[@lassepleb3258]

I feel like Summit got some good points, but also some where he dont know what hes talking about. Cloud9 was not performing due to bad team chemistry. Look at them now, with their new roster, they are the bomb.

[@ConeTheBoss559]

You just fucked yourself, if the chemistry and everything was good there wouldn't be a new roster.

[@lassepleb3258]

Read what I wrote again please :)

[@ConeTheBoss559]

They weren't preforming bad cuz of their team chemistry, and look at them now with their new roster? What am i missing?

[@greysonsmith2054]

people should also realise summit also went on a rant about the fact that NA players have the best individual skill and potential but the team play sucks

[@RenixGames]

great analysis honestly, true words.

[@jianhonglin4294]

I'm sure there is a difference between 4 hours of concentration and 8 hour streams of shits and giggles. Not being one myself, but I can conservatively say that improving as a pro isn't solely bases on the quantity of time, but the quality of the practice. But of course, it isn't quality practice if you only spend 2 seconds when the pro standard of your competitors is 8 hours. Then you're toast.

[@gytisdramblewolfskis8521]

dude talk when u watch at least half of tthe video btw summit is not pro hes youtuber/streamer

[@jianhonglin4294]

I know that, I watch his streams and I'm a fan of his work, I can still agree or disagree with his opinions.

[@jianhonglin4294]

how can people on KZbin really tell how much of a video a certain viewer has watched when they make that comment?

[@Stefan0v1]

+jianhong lin "how can people on KZbin really tell how much of a video a certain viewer has watched when they make that comment?" Because you didn't have the same conclusion,he made a wild guess you didn't watch the whole video... Quality over quantity?If they practice 4-5h a day instead of 8h. I am 100% with you.. Where are the results?They don't have any. If you don't have any results,what do you need to do?You need to improve. How can you improve? Practice more. If the majoriy of NA sucks penis at CSGO with only 4-5h quality over quantity practice,they should increase the number of hours played so that they can bring success. SO: It all goes down too. Eu(plays more)>>>>>>Na(plays less).

[@gytisdramblewolfskis8521]

jianhong lin ,,I know that, I watch his streams and I'm a fan of his work, I can still agree or disagree with his opinions.,, you did not disagree with his opinions you just repeated the same shit in a way that looks like you're thinking hes a pro and as if you want him to play csgo seriously which he does not need cuz he is not a PRO

[@TheFippe]

summit is really on point here.

[@Barticus_]

I actually find this as an inspirational speech. Ya dun good Summit1G