Summoners are Busted

Summoners in Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones are busted, and here's why.
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[@defritos]

Just wanted to publicly say thanks to Mekkah for giving me the opportunity to edit this video for him. This video became my personal passion project over the past several weeks and I had a ton of fun making it; and I'm glad to see it finally shared with the rest of the community.

[@Brawlfan98]

It looks amazing man, I can tell you put time into it!

[@ratafresca7506]

Amazing editing man, congrats.

[@Chadius]

*Incredible* editing!

[@lightbrand_]

You made amazing work man, it’s true eye candy, love your editing ❤️

[@metak4428]

👍

[@someguy6281]

That intro is like if fire emblem sacred stone had writing like fire emblem fate

[@koly318]

Now imagine if FE4 had Fates writing. "IT WAS I LOPTOUS ALL ALONG BWAHAHAHAHA." "I will never forgive you Loptous! You took everyone away from me!" "Brother... My father sent me a letter, explaining that it's not Deirdre that's my mother, it's some other Naga blooded woman that is actually ultimately irrelevant to the plot!"

[@domicraft6341]

@@koly318 So that's why they dropped the idea to marry Julia to Seliph in chapter 7...

[@Gerd0]

That wasn't a just a scene taken directly from Sacred Stones?

[@morigranate]

*"Not Disgusting."* -Corrin

[@l.n.3372]

@@koly318 FE4 does have writing like Fates at times. You don't need to be hypocritical to bash Fates to acknowledge where FE4 is flawed Sigurd/Deirdre fall in love instantly, Romeo and Juliet style. No support conversations to build up, just instantly he sees her and loves her. And Manfroy isn't much better than Iago: even if Loptyr people were persecuted, there's no good Loptyr cult member in Genealogy to sympathize with and learn from. It's just Manfroy and the cult trying to end the world and feed children to a dark God.

[@GreatBigHill]

Alternative title, "WAIFU: Phantom" EDIT: I posted this before watching the whole video.

[@abcdefg98765]

Fun fact: the summoning skill isn't bound to the Necromancer class, but to Lyon himself. If you use cheats to make someone else a Necromancer, they won't be able to summon.

[@Adrian-bt8oi]

So if i make Lyon a priest he will be capable of summon?

[@Kevin-lv8wv]

Adrian in theory yes

[@acsm9436]

Iirc Summon is linked to Knoll and Ewan too, and only shows up if they're Summoners (or Necromancers). If you change Lyon's class to anything else besides Summoner, he won't be able to summon.

[@Kevin-lv8wv]

Adrián Colis San Martín that would explain why in randomizers, Lyon never has the summon ability

[@MrMarket1987]

Was that from personal testing? I used Codebreaker a while back on VBA and managed to get Knoll to Summon just fine as a Necromancer(because Lyon's sprite model looks similar to how Knoll looks overall with the purple hair and stuff to not make it look out of place, and by all accounts he should have similar skills in the Dark Arts as a Royal Mage, just not have Formortiis' soul). Never had issues with that as far as I can recall.

[@waves2198]

They capped def and res. They must be good

[@danielshepard3067]

Yeah but since they're capped, there's no reason to use them anymore (sarcasm)

[@emadkhatri]

Yeah absolutely no reason, they just steal xp and they dont even have animations

[@butteredsalmonella]

@Wil E you just made me almost choke on my drink lmao

[@rydrake9509]

they're only good to save a unit's life and trap your opponnets

[@M0D776]

@@rydrake9509 this whole comment was a joke, along with the replies

[@Flarezetta]

Who ever edited this did a absolutely stunning job.

[@benzoFE88]

Zetta Flare How ironic your name is with the music played here,,,

[@FFKonoko]

deFritos did excellent.

[@silvertipstudio9622]

Look at the top of the comment section

[@nerdy_crawfish]

Grinding -> shows tower Stat boost -> shows speed wings Plain good luck -> shows Mangs Can't say I disagree.

[@TheSamuraiGoomba]

Any time you can direct the AI in a strategy video game in a 100% reproducible and predictable way, that's extremely powerful.

[@C20521]

That is why "follow me" and redirecting abilities like lightning rod and storm drain are useful in pokemon (double battles of course)

[@cosmictraveler1146]

@@C20521 With Ally switch just straight up breaks the game. With a lot of weird things getting it if you get caught off guard with it the game is over.

[@VolnuttPWNS]

The editing's so good, the Bravely Default music is dang nice, and the info is as fascinating as ever. I don't know why it's so satisfying to listen to you talk about FE, but it always manages to be a fun ride. Thanks for the video!

[@lagrelex]

Because of his knowledge and passion for FE, and his charming voice too!😂

[@BowandSvent]

OH GOD I SUMMONED A COMMENT AND IT HAS A DEVIL AXE SOMEONE HELP M-

[@TheChannelTroll]

Perish, fool.

[@TheValiantBob]

I remember one time I summoned a phantom, and it got hit with berserk. It then proceeded to crit and one shot Rennac. Oops.

[@Not_Alanius]

Oops.

[@nacoto180]

So basically Knoll is not in Heroes because Kiran is afraid they'll get replaced if they ever summon him.

[@gman4490]

Well this aged well

[@applepopapplerancher3211]

@@gman4490 Ikr? Lmao

[@Shazam1998]

Summoners were always an incredibly interesting concept to me. I really hope they bring them back in some form or another in the next FE.

[@garbageman9999]

They kinda returned in echoes with the invoke spell even though they functioned a lot differently

[@TragGaming]

@@garbageman9999 Tanith in Radiant Dawn was same way.

[@felixmartinez1100]

@@TragGaming but that is reinforces

[@guimon78]

Maybe the next one

[@thepotato513]

Ooh, this is some *clean* editing

[@iColm]

I feel like it might have been important to mention that the final boss of this game will always target the summoned unit. Summoner trivializes SS more than grind tower.

[@AuraMasterUmi]

7:07 Thats some neat editing right there. Give deFritos a raise, that was beautiful.

[@henryreturns1397]

"Druid , Mage Knights , and Sages are better than Summoners" Mekkah : "I am about to end this man's whole career with facts and logic"

[@h0m3st4r]

Sages and mage knights are kind of iffy overall, and druids are worthless.

[@madmaxiemartialartsnerd485]

@@h0m3st4r mages knights and valkys are honestly the worse mages in the game, its why L archel is honestly a shitty unit, cause unlike natasha/artur/moulder who can become one shotting demon nightmares, larchel is just stuck with a horse thats not as good as paladins and shitty offense stats lol Which is such a shame for is honestly the best personality wise.

[@redknight5974]

great intro. and props to the editor.

[@kiwi_inc2843]

I thought this was a new Troll Emblem episode and I was confused for a moment...

[@B_A-tr]

Thats at least two moments less of confusion than i had

[@myhobby3376]

Ha! Here I thought it was a new Echoes episode, because... you know, it's still true.

[@edgar2810]

Yea me too

[@Mangs1337]

I can't believe Moulder wasn't in range to heal Colm. This makes me think Sacred Stones is a great Fire Emblem game for some reason.

[@gratedshtick]

Take that, Chaz

[@edgar2810]

Sad chase noises

[@MetaDash]

Okay I need Chaz context lol

[@grimrapper5202]

@@MetaDash kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5qaloCFosxgoZo

[@Itzfinnic]

Mangs I... I’m sticking with you what you did was wrong but I can’t just leave you helped me get through a very difficult time and I’ll always cherish you for that I can’t forget but if you can sort things out I will forgive you Stay safe mangs

[@edgelord8337]

That intro....... But the summoner class is really op thanks to the ai attacking phantoms. Amazing editing too.

[@lpfan4491]

Ephraim and Eirika:"Who in the world is this guy!?"

[@farstox4656]

Based Mekkah preventing the royal genes from stagnating.

[@cultist_npc]

😭

[@Lisa_Minci96]

Just say no chromo, it'll be fine

[@Kolinichu]

Okay, deFritos is a god at editing, this video presentation is so clean and smooth. It's simply a pleasure to watch.

[@ZackYXW]

"Why Summoner is good in Iron Man."

[@cursedswiss522]

tfw I have no idea what a Fire Emblem is but so far the video kept me interested.

[@presussy]

Wait, how tf did you find this channel then? Or is this some hard to read sarcasm?

[@adachichungus]

@@pokkiheart thats a reach

[@cursedswiss522]

Oarack Bbama it got recommended to my feed I guess because I began watching Dragon Quest videos and I’m not a big Rpg player

[@cursedswiss522]

shane francis I don’t know the series actually lol I don’t really play games from Nintendo since I play more on PC but the series seems fun like the classic Final Fantasy games which are the only rpgs I played

[@ReisRBedir]

Cursed Swiss you can emulate the older ones on PC quite easily if you you liked the look of the game! Fire Emblem fans are very passionate about about the franchise so we’re always happy with new players!

[@marcosgonzalez7042]

I see what you did there with Colm and Moulder. You couldn't heal Colm, Unlike Chaz.

[@mr.sandstorm]

The editing on this video was amazing, goof job deFritos. I think it's a shame that fe8 is so easy because there are less situations where a phantom is needed/useful. Sophia could be a decent unit if she had the ability to become a summoner in fe6.

[@lagrelex]

Yeah, there'd be an actual reason to train her. Sadly, she can't. But I still enjoy training her sometimes, even if it's a pain in the A

[@fakesmile172]

I can't wait to get Knoll in my 0% growths run, I think he's going to be important as a summoner. Also, wow, the editing is really good.

[@TenshiPrime]

How did your run go?

[@fakesmile172]

@@TenshiPrime I haven't touched it in a while, but if I remember, I'm on chapter 17 right now.

[@maltheopia]

@@fakesmile172 I gave 0% growths a whirl on Eirika route, I have Ewan right now and I am strongly considering grinding him up to a Summoner just because there's only so much Gerik/Innes/Seth/Saleh can do. Gerik and Seth are the only ones who can take a hit or three.

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

@@fakesmile172 ok, how bout now?

[@Easssae]

Having disposable units just breaks the game. It's like casual mode without the shame

[@gameboyn64]

Case and point: mangs' shadow dragon iron man.

[@seafoam6119]

gameboyn64 unil is a g

[@maltheopia]

Excelblem's FE11 Iron Man shows just how far you can take the concept.

[@DrickRT]

Dang you really have to put it that way...

[@corentinc.948]

You really are the type of person who loves to punish yourself in those games, lol :p

[@CyclonSilver]

I can't deal with that much Bravely Default! Really nice video, Mekkah Really showcases the power of a dedicated editor, but the script is top notch too.

[@Exalosia]

the editing in this is amazing... also I love the bravely music.

[@UnlimitedMrX]

Summoners are probably the single coolest thing in FE8 to me. It's on my list of cool stuff I wish they'd bring back in a future game, along with Crossbows and bonus EXP. Yes, my favorite game is FE10, how could you tell?

[@thedreambirds]

I absolutely lost it when I heard bravely default music. Great video thank you deFritos for editing this good job to both you and Mekkah!

[@dylanferguson64]

Well that intro was... interesting...

[@overlorddystroy4044]

This is honestly one of the best Mekkah videos ever made.

[@Halberdier-pasha]

1:34 gotta appreciate the bravely default music

[@Dylankeahi]

I was hoping you'd address this topic in a Q&A or something. Didn't think you'd make a 17 minute long video about it. 10/10

[@GenoGar]

The editing is great, video quality standards are rising in the community.

[@grit1]

The summary of the class is that it's just free real estate

[@spacedoyster7686]

Well, consider me motivated to give Sacred Stones another shot with an emphasis on the Summoners! One other interesting thing about Lyon, unless my memory is lying to me again, is that he has a Hammerne staff, giving you two. This allows you to infinitely repair weapons and the other staff, assuming they work on each other.

[@LeapyLad]

they don't work on each other

[@sirpig7141]

An incredible video with absolutely superb editing and information to match! Your scripted content is some of the best gameplay analysis inside the FE community and probably is better than most outside of it as well!

[@CormagTheCorman]

Just need a hack that's Knoll, Ewan, and Lyon as the protag! FE8: Phantom Journey!

[@IDESTROYER236]

FE8: The Phantom Menace/Pain/Blood.

[@peterlindstrom4233]

Honestly this video is amazingly edited, the best edited one i´ve seen from your channel by far. Shoutout to deFritos!

[@abosikay5952]

What is this, a mekkah video with high quality editing? Never thought I'd see the day.

[@dragonarrow5525]

I would love to see a video of you looking at the usefulness of this kind of effect in Path of Radiance and Gaiden/Echoes with Tanith and the clerics (but mainly Genny) I've seen that you and BisMix have mixed opinions about Genny's summoning and I would like to see your final thoughts on after going for the Blitzkrieg achievement, and there are plenty of situations, especially in Maniac, where Reinforce makes some chapters much easier that I would love to see you analyze.

[@ironpage]

Seriously love how the quality of your content keeps increasing over time. Been following for a while and your channel was one of the main reasons I started playing Fire Emblem. Keep up the quality. Once I have enough spending money I'm definitely going to become a Patreon because you deserve to make a living out of these videos.

[@maniacallyhappy]

Dude, this video looks amazing, excellent job with the editing and the assets that were created! Defritos killed it, good on you mate!

[@Hanesboi]

Holy mother of Naga! Mekkah this video's editing is absolutely stellar! deFritos deserves your utmost thanks.

[@naivepotatoking]

Big props to the editor Really loved the inclusion of Bravely music

[@Acrnavy]

Why is this video so gorgeous? Since when did Mekkah quality surpass Mangs quality

[@stuff1487]

Cover the unique Sister class in Fe5 that Linoan and Sara are in 🦀

[@maltheopia]

Ephraim, Corrin, and Eldigan: Yes. Do so.

[@wowallthosemovies]

I love the editing on this video, it's really well done! (And Mekkah did great too) Hopefully we'll see more of this collaboration!

[@jacewarbeck9684]

6:40 - 12 Tiles. You walk 6, you summon in a direction (an extra tile) then the phantom walks 5.

[@justsomejojo]

I remember I used Knoll in one of my very first playthroughs as a summoner and really liking it. Ever since then though, I always manage to get him killed by accident and the desert map is such a slog, I never restart for him. Might have to rethink that now. I didn't know phantoms always get attacked first for instance. That's insanely helpful.

[@wolfbear320]

Video aka: “Waifu: Knoll”

[@MrThespyman]

Can we just take a moment at how nice the editing is? Seriously your editor is doing God's Work.

[@VictoryStar908026]

You got a like alone for using the bravely default music. All the good knowledge and the video was great too!

[@michaelhayes1609]

This new style of video is great Mekkah (and editing by DeFritos)

[@rathknight0361]

That bravely default music brought chills down my spine. Either way, nice video man! I really learnt alot from this, thanks!

[@bryanwu6973]

I don't know how true the S-rank misconception is for Lyon. IIRC when I played vanilla FE 8 years ago, I was able to use Latona with Lyon.

[@corgipuss7468]

Damn, I wish there was at least a minor quip about the Clerics from SoV's summon skills. Genny being able to summon like 5+ phantoms in 1 turn really early on is so broken that I'm not sure how people say Celica route is harder. Good video, Summoner class is awesome.

[@littleduck3686]

First off you cannot control the mist soldiers. This makes them more difficult to use. Second SoV infantry units have very low mov being only 4 till they reach some of their final classes. Combine that with heavy terrain and narrow corridors they can sometimes clog up your other units. Lastly Celica maps are brimming with desert and swamps that kill your movement so Genny's invoke soldiers are tedious to use. Although Slique and Tatiana have more solid ground and summon pegs knights and dread fighters making them very good

[@SweetSylvie]

@@littleduck3686 You make some good points, but it's important to note that by far the most useful aspect of phantoms/mist soldiers are that they distract the enemy on enemy phase, protecting your weaker units while doing chip damage. You don't really want them to be all powerful, because then they're just stealing exp from other units

[@vannisy7971]

I love these musics from Bravely Default. They are sooo good!

[@anondev5679]

the editing on this is amazing, great work!

[@louisbowels6858]

If it's one thing Sacred Stones did really well, it was promotion splits. Early promoted mage knight Lute fucking roasted enemies

[@heroicvileplume7184]

Mekkkah, you seem to use a lot of Bravely/Octopath music. Would you ever consider making videos about them?

[@defritos]

This was my choice as the editor to use the Bravely music. I'm not sure if Mekkah has even played those games (but he should!)

[@LedYouAshtray]

That editing though, I'm impressed with this editing

[@weastkorea]

The production quality on this is incredible. Keep up the great content!

[@nolanbrewer898]

That bravely default in the background. Perfect 👌

[@bones9964]

deFritos did awesome at editing this video. It looks so good!

[@Jazzthemann]

10/10 editing, thought I was watching a Chaz video for a second

[@randyfool2065]

Great video, Mekkah. Love this fancy editing of WAIFU Phantoms! Will get Phantoms whenever I play FE8.

[@tannenboom]

This editing is amazing.

[@michaellane9702]

This is by far my favorite mekkah video to watch due to the editing and I also love any sacred stones content. Keep it up man.

[@InternetPeopleAreNotReal]

One of your best videos to date. Narration, Editing, Content, Sacred Stones, all perfect. Keep it up, Mekkah!

[@Blightblues7]

I hope we see a more balanced version of the summoner in future games, it's a very fun class in concept and gives a nice variety from current classes.

[@vanjagalovic3621]

Didn't we have a similar class in Fates that creates replicas? Also Genny can also summon in Echoes

[@mauwus4322]

@@vanjagalovic3621 Replicas share health with their original summoner so if 1 dies so does the other, besides they come rather late and on a class that's otherwise worse than it's counterparts. Invoke is a cool spell in echoes on the units that get it and it also breaks AI but then again it's Echoes and that game does a lot of weird things.

[@MinniMaster]

This was secretly a way for Mekkah to make a Why Ewan is bad in Druid video

[@alvis6970]

Nice Bravely Default music in the background

[@TeeGee3]

What an opening

[@PownzerX]

Was going to say that at 1:26 you ERRORNIOUSLY say "Any successful attack will destroy a phantom" BUT if a phantom is stading on a gate or throne and an enemy with 0 str and a slim sword attacks the phantom will not be destroyed due to terrain bonuses (+3 defense). But phantoms are fliers which dont get terrain bonuses. So imma just post for the algo to pick up the vid. good vid

[@MorgsFELH]

The phantom drop is based on a sequential scan of the map that starts in the top left corner and travels right along the grid, then resets to the farthest left point based on the grid overflow. So it seems like its prioritizing up-left-right-down, and in practice generally is, but you can game it a bit.

[@Aarzak97]

The combined range of the summoner/phantom combo is 13 or 12 depends on how you see it, not 11. Let's say Summ starts on tile 0, then moves to 6, summons to 7, then phantom moves 5 tiles so 12 and can attack on 13. The editing was insanely good on this vid Meqqah, great vid !

[@dikzak7551]

Dude this has got to be your best video yet. Lovely commentary with amazing editing. Wow.

[@imnotnarcian]

Give your editor a raise. Some of the cleanest editing I have seen, not just on a fire emblem video but from a video on youtube.

[@RASHIDOOOOO]

In my FE8 Randomizer run I specifically never lost a unit in the Demon King fight because of summons, it was probably dumb luck but I'm glad someone showcases how useful these guys are. If you're wondering, my summoner was Garcia.

[@LeonisBraefer]

I'm glad you have made a video about this. I have always gone with summoners in Sacred Stone. Just having a unit that can tank an attack to save anyone of your units was such a nice thing to have, especially if you make the occasional mistake here and there.

[@Artemas_16]

Great information, Mekkah. And editing is breathtaking.

[@devanthompson482]

Wow this video looked amazing, huge props to the editor!

[@Swordsmaster]

I can see why they took these classes out. Wish they could be brought back though.

[@lagrelex]

Echoes Invoke is kinda similar but you can't control them and can be more harm than help in some situations.

[@SteadyTokai]

I honestly never knew that they could take and drop. It never occurred to me at all through all the ironman randomizers I have been doing. And I have had at least 3 at one point in a play through. Though when you don't have people who can rescue people who end up with about 14 or greater con and no flyer or mounted units I wouldn't have gotten to see that.

[@rydenhope3602]

When I got scared stones as a kid when it came out, I was eager to try the new classes and I ended up going the 2 summoner route you recommend. It was a lot of fun to have 2 phantoms on the field at all times, the only drawback at all was if they accidentally killed stuff with loot I couldn't trade it back, and I remember being frustrated as a kid when that would happen. Great video, and i really loved the editing, the guy you hired did a fantastic job playing around with the 2D Sprite work and I hope to see more of defritos work on your channel in the future!

[@garrettmarzo7858]

Hot damn the editing this time is incredible! Whoever did is great at it.

[@QuickSmasherEXE]

I did a Sacred Stones ironman where the Chapter 15 Devil Axe berserker attacked my phantom and killed himself. The phantom received the axe as spoils and used it to attack once for massive damage before being one shot. That was also the run where Knoll got crit to death by a Purge bishop. Honestly, the summoner class is probably the coolest thing in Sacred Stones, I wish that it was more prominent or that we'd gotten it in more games.

[@schul9169]

Great video as always mekkkah but I'd like to make one correction. Lyon is capable of having S in Dark magic and S in staves. I've only ever played on an og cartridge so it's not hacked or anything. If you meant Lyon can't have S in Anima or Light then yes, you're correct.

[@shabbas8792]

When I first played FE8 summoner was my favorite class! I’m glad to see you give them some love Mekkah. Also S tier video quality 👌 amazing job editing deFrito

[@Chook181]

The editing in this video is amazing. Keep it up DeFritos!

[@sunbleachedfly2]

the quality and effort put into this video is 10/10. props to everyone who made it

[@nova338]

I love the Bravely Default music!!

[@rpgnerd7610]

I really like how the video was made. With the sprites, portraits were angled looked very nice.

[@Carobou_]

Someone really loved the Bravely Default soundtrack, and i'm loving it too c: