SUMMONERS WAR : How To Rune TWINS (Chakram Dancer & Boomerang Warrior)

TLDR is at beginning, we look at each individually after that, as well as looking at g3/legend player examples.

[@FahimBhai37]

Shaina 3:56 Talia 5:23 Melissa 5:51 Deva 7:20 Belita 8:05 Maruna 8:42 Sabrina 9:37 Zenobia 10:20 Bailey 12:57 Martina 14:00 There you go!

[@adriangheorghe656]

Thank you!

[@briand5379]

Thanks

[@triratna1397]

Does tarq,raoq, icaru team attack trigger dancer team to attack? sorry i'm 2 years retired now. Very curious about this.

[@youtubeonly2231]

Triratna yes

[@siegeslied844]

Thank you

[@mikesheppard2305]

I thought this was going to be a 4 second video where you just stare at the camera and say "violent"

[@Kleano52]

I am mid game. I am still unsure of a lot of things about the game. What I should focus on, what runes are best on who, etc. So thank you so much. This helped me tremendously.

[@andyhelmn]

Mr Bagel, I cannot thank you enough for this video. Not because of the characters in question, but because of the Rune "flashcard" you did. This means I can watch the whole video, and then when I forget what you said early on, I can come back and find the desired stats easily. Awesome, thankyou.

[@chrissabal7937]

As Childish would say, stats over sets.

[@RWxSama]

Despite having almost no utility (by that i mean debuffs in general), Talia compensates in damage and OH BOY she hurts A LOT. She has her own cleanse + attack buff + additional turn, and just for herself, but it's still amazing, since she can wind up her third skill faster becaus of that She's a amazing DD for both PVE and PVP, i love using her on siege against Garo comps along with sabrina.

[@jonnyupchurch7283]

Just got dark chakram, I’m so happy!

[@pattt6532]

Gz

[@mouachongchue1295]

Gz (even tho this was a year ago lol

[@affanhossain3973]

How do u get it???

[@jonnyupchurch7283]

Sorry its random luck

[@izmar]

I feel compelled to mention that my guild fought yours yesterday (global), and I attacked you knowing full well I would lose. I regret nothing.

[@izumichen3413]

lmaooooooooooo

[@joncassidy2280]

it has been three years and still my kin and I sing songs of your bravery.

[@RWxSama]

Btw, i think they could buff Deva to have a chance to ignore defense on enemies either disbled AND imune to disables. She would be a even more fun unit and more of a flexible pick. Increase her ignore def chance wouldn't be fair since it's a passive, and units like Fei or Bethony have the same effect, with the same chance to trigger it, but its on a regular ability, not on a passive.

[@MultiJellybones]

TY for TLDR. I still watched the whole thing cos I like to hear the rest lol

[@airkami]

Thank you for making this video and including the short and sweet first part of the video and diving deeper into the think tank through the rest of the video.

[@antonklopper1265]

"She needs speed,.,.,because she's a stripper" xD

[@jesparza602]

i can't even get a 6 slot atk% rune. So theres that.

[@davefontanilla3703]

NOT-A-ROLE-MODEL 5 star good sub will do

[@Snarky4]

no it wont... unless its like 25 spd even then %12 less attack is too much to ignore.

[@yashbachu6562]

I know a lot of people don’t like this music, but u should put the playlist on the description

[@IceSlash]

Same opinion, need playlist link xd

[@Geomlord]

I barely hear it. XD if you didn't say it, I wouldn't notice

[@IceSlash]

@Pawel Dudzinski i listened to ncs a lot, but some songs i dont recognise cause they are rly silent

[@leostein5178]

I use Shaina and Bailey, and I have pretty solid runes on them. I build them for Siege, but they also turned out to be very good in TOA and Arena. I think super fast Bailey is ok, but should pare with a faster Shaina, since she does the aoe amor break and Bailey does good aoe damage. But the main problem for the twins is that the boomerang always moves first in their combos no matter whos turn it is, so Shaina cannot do her amour break first and then the whatever boomerang do damage as expected.

[@luiseduardomestreangelone8040]

Finally Jew the Video we all have Been waiting!! Thanks!!!! I was whit huge doubts on my comps whit Twins Just got wind, fire shak, and Water, fire boom.

[@erichorne8294]

This is amazing because I literally just pulled Shaina and maruna from toa scrolls

[@BunnyB00B00]

I needed this video omgg thank you Jewbagel!! I just got wind twins and I have a water chakram and got the transmogs for them..ty ty

[@Anonnpc]

Yesss. I just got the fire Chac and water boom and made them 5* , thank you!

[@fishontheinternetz3641]

I belong to the crowd that just returned from a super long hiatus (about 1 year) in which Twins were released in. I am 1 week back in business but still super early game (pre-GB10 for 4 years, rip) and i did recently pull a Wind Chakram Warrior from scrolls. Still need a Boomerang Twin and having too many projects all over the place seems weird too me but this is gonna be helpful sometime later when i am stable.

[@fishontheinternetz3641]

@gustian putra I will keep that in mind.

[@redstar151]

That Giana WTF dude 30k hp 2.1k atk 1.2k def 292 spd 91 acc... Holy smoke that might be one of the best runed monster in Summoners war

[@RamenLlama]

Just a little bug that needs to be addressed, idk if anyone else is having the same issue. Sometimes when Maruna + [Chakram] attack with Maruna's last skill, the Chakram doesn't stun them, even though it's supposed to be a guaranteed stun. It obviously doesn't go through Will runes nor will it stun bosses or enemies who can't be stunned. Idk why this glitch is happening but it's fucking annoying. It's happened three times in the past 4 days.

[@risk4485]

It can be resisted.. What they meant by guaranteed is probably 100%.. With enemy on high resistance, there is a chance of not stunning them. Especially if enemy is water

[@andrewwoode]

@@risk4485 guaranteed stun. Unless they have a passive that is inability immunity, what op said is true - a glitch. I run maruna + chaks, never resisted or not stunned Edit: Not 100 chance to stun. With a chak, it *will* stun despite resistance stat or accuracy.

[@guyonthecouchb5082]

I think it happens when chakram glancing hits and it is a glitch and it's really annoying

[@Asphyx123]

I use Shaina, Martina, Bernard a lot in Arena. Switching out slot 4 between khmun, jeanne and racuni with racuni speed synced with the twins so i can have another try with martina if she fails to steal immunity or shields. Usually brings me into conqueror ranks end of the week without too much effort.

[@tokutakutoys5626]

Question to anybody who has the twin under Violent/Revenge. Such if Shaina got attacked and the counterattack got activated. Does only Shaina counterattack or the Boomerang Warrior counterattacks in same time as twin?

[@AndrewEwing1995]

No it doesn't. My sabrina is on violent revenge and whenever she revenge proc only she is attacking the unit not as a pair.

[@lordrichard8184]

Thanks for the video!! This was exactly what I needed. I’m one of the players that used to play. Then took a long break from the game. And came back. It also seems like you’ve changed your channel format. Classic jewbagel would be like a 20-30 minute intro and then getting into the content. ;p

[@Rhynova]

I have 2 boomerangs but no chakram

[@claudiusindilar484]

got all elemental twins no shaina RIP

[@eaf5445]

GicuTsu got all elements twins but no maruna lol

[@RathSoul]

4 shainas no sabrinas :'p

[@Bit_Ky]

I have 2 shaina but no boomerangs

[@thatoneguyjr818]

I have 2 boomerang and a shaina

[@cerusa827]

I have one of all of the elemental boom and chak. I need to build wind chak...I think she could be an amazing Helphas counter.

[@dejanstekovic5523]

Fire twins and LD ones vio is a must but water ones shines on rage tbh tried both builds and they have way better results on rage while 2nd set is optimal :) Great video cheers!

[@hotrosenpai9042]

4:36 the most wanted and i got her as my first twin i am so lucky

[@obliviousgear6463]

hey Jb, its been a long time since but would you be able to do a update on how to rune the Epikion Priests by any chance? been trying different sets to get my Rasheed and Iona fast and tanky but i might be missing some combos

[@mdl1402]

is it worth to keep a second Chakram Dancer or Boomerang Warrior of each element or should i use them as skill up?

[@2legit324]

ty very much for this, ill be sure to come back when i get one. com2us hates the idea of me having twins so much they gave me a perna , teshar, zinc, dark tao, 3 blue boomerang, one red boomerang, and enough fodder 2 6 star everything...and all i wanted was a chakram.(thats all in november, i summoned...)

[@zacharysutton9758]

Here's a question I have one fire one water and one wind. Would it be a good idea to go with spd atk atk or spd cr/cd atk with acc subs for all three? I just ran pvp with just the three and loved it.

[@Teeleer]

so glad i got Shaina in the exclusive summons this week

[@Justin-wh3ot]

I’ve got 2 chakram and 1 boomerang I like to have my boomerang violent, but keep one of my chakram rage for dungeons and rifts. Mainly in my necro she moves last. Also if you’re endgame or even mid game speed on slot 2 is pointless just get +60 or higher in subs

[@LuzMcFly]

Oh, this is the video I needed. Thank you bagelito ♥ Cheers from Argentina!

[@shushu8811]

Why would you go for vio on Martina too? :/ cauz she still so don't want to proc after stilling I guess stripper are not build vio am I right Mine is on fatal spd/cd/atk speed tune with shaina at +85and +83 for db10 and arena/gwo

[@MrHirntoeter]

if u use a boom with shaina u need acc for the reduction effekt 2. bec she geht the same reduction passive as shaina

[@cherriagana]

For Deva, does the groggy state of rift beasts count as inability? I presume not but haven't build her yet so wondering.

[@cameronhollingsworth5934]

*CORRECTION* Belita does not need accuracy for her 3rd skill Moonlight blow. She is my first LD lightning and 6☆. I believe she is underated as a twin and as solid nuker .

[@kakitayuri]

For anyone new watching, if you get a second Shaina, don't eat her. There are plenty of times you like a second one. Best Nat5 in the game, like he says, keep a dupe :)

[@colinhazel5140]

I got a Talia who I want to build soon so this was informative. Now I rly want Sabrina since I do like matching pairs (which is why I rarely run broken sets which I discovered it lowers my monsters' potential) 😝

[@noctiscaelum9845]

Thanks this is a helpful video, Im waiting to get Talia from the event, I got Hellea so far

[@flamursyla8756]

Atk/spd, CR, ATK. Runeset doesnt matter. Saved you 30 minutes.

[@trarusnorton7099]

Question I have the fire Chakram dancer, but no boomerang warrior. Is it still worth to use her or just keep in storage until I pull a boomerang?

[@yunusgardash2858]

im new to summoners war and just got dark chakram dancer so do i need dark boomerang girl with her or doesnt matter? also is she worth using if you dont have both of them yet?

[@avamatthews1459]

Is there/has there been a boomerang hall of heroes? My talia is lonely

[@adanedsstudio]

I've all there boomerangs and 2 chakrams per common element except Shaina. I need her so bad. Hopefully, the scam stone rotation will help me with that. I actually use them in dungeons (except DB10) and Rift Beasts and they are beasts on their own

[@cindyjuarez4111]

I wish he would have shown some runes and idk if he said certain runes I couldn't rlly hear

[@aldenwitcher1332]

@Schizophrenic Gamer Does twins revenge sets work ? Like when one of them revenge would one of them bring both together to hit ?

[@GangstaGoz]

Nope, sadly not, when they revenge only the one that was hit, hits back, the other watches.

[@NocToreGaming]

Would verde, galleon, Martina (dark boom), Sabrina (water boom), shaina (fire chakram) be a good db10 team? I think of building it, but am not sure of what the optimal turn order would be.

[@Majindestruction]

galleon -> SABRINA -> shaina -> martina > verde

[@Tigrika16]

I've been playing for almost as long as this game has been around. I think I joined about 6 months after it started. And I STILL have no clue how to effectively rune anyone. I've only recently started looking up summoner videos to see if I can learn anything.

[@MsBiiann96]

Same here hahaaa

[@sammino5]

Who to skillup first mostly for pve between shaina and talia? i been told talia because it helps her do even more dmg?

[@pikachu3145]

Have pulled four Sabrina's but no Zenobia or maruna. Tried to summon both via stones, fail...

[@youknowwho257]

"How to" every mob: If you need more speed put more speed. Damage kinda low ? Put more damage. That one is dying more than it should? Add more "tankability" stats or/and decrease / eliminate "that gap" between turns in your monsters so they are not intercepted and can rotate skills correctly. Don't know exactly a good rune combo /stats to aim ? Go : Arena > Ranking > Search a well know high ranked player and look for the mob on theyr acc, same for World Boss, there u should find more PVE players than PVP players, but they're mixed all over the place in WB ranking. The problem with youtubers doing videos about "HOW TO RUNE" etc etc, is that no one really teaches how YOU can learn "how to rune" alone. This has built a weak community when it comes to general knowledge. To this day I see people with accs with more than 1000 days who simply do not know how to set up an arena team, but know everything what this or that youtuber said. .. How they say, teach how to fish ... do not give the fish.... you will spend your life handing over fish.

[@Geomlord]

I think you should organize this so it's easier to read and understand, I mean just put a bit of spaces in between QnA

[@FabioPCarvalho]

I do agree with you! Also, when someone ask me if a mob isd good, first I think: Can I kill you? than, after taking a deep breath I say: Read it's skills, understand the use, from there you'll know if the mob is good and how you should rune it...

[@reecedactyl]

to his day i still see people who don't realise that you can quit and your "days played" clock up

[@thomaspham6814]

I have both fire charkram and boomerang how much acc and spd would be optimum ? still doing pve content trying to rerune mons for speed db10

[@cobaltssfans]

My Shaina rune is Violent+Blade spd/cd/atk, Zenobia is Fatal+blade atk/cd/atk and Maruna is Vampire+Blade atk/cd/atk. They're so amazing and saved me a lot of time in dragons and necro. Pulled Shaina from compensation scrolls a while ago when other players got nat5s, but I'm okay with it :)

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

What if I give both of them despair? It it any useful? Seems like it could stun a lot

[@darylarcher3712]

Damn! I tried to play summoners war on PC via Nox app player.. And I've just got virus on my PC. Guys, please be careful and do not use unreliable apps cause it may result in huge problems. Thank god I've done antivirus scan so my data remains in safety.

[@kryde101]

What if i'm only have 2 fire boomer and 1 shakram. Of water i only have 1 water shakram. So i can't build team of water boomer and fire shakram. Is that bad? also have wind boomer

[@utilae1]

For the fire twins, and Sabrina, it's better to have 180+ speed speed/cd/atk, for complete lock down so enemy never gets a turn.

[@GOD_DID]

Thanks so much jewbagel! after i watched this video i realised that i need better runes for them!

[@Diamant_pony]

Why revenge tho? I have most of mine On! Rev but don't have the feeling as if it would do much...

[@darkice5990]

Just got boomerang warrior rn. Should i evolve it or wait until i get the other twin?

[@Pienimusta]

How viable 2+2 twins are still for gb/db/nb10 after nerf? Better just run 2 (fire chak, water boom)?

[@almostcalm1275]

For early game:does swift blade work?

[@BisyBackson365]

Are any of the twins WORTH the devilmons? yes they are 4* but, as an example, many ppl say Lushen is worth the devil mon or chasun ect. Maybe Shiana and Dark Boom(martina i think)?

[@theera5145]

It is less viable to devilmon them because their skillups come for free and you will eventually get them if you play long enough. Devilmon makes them better but are they neccessary like galleon? probably not.

[@BisyBackson365]

@@theera5145 Thx for the reply. I myself am not using devil to skill them up, I have been lucky to summon 7 nat 5 in the last year. BUT i thought, given their large PVE dominance, that it was a question that I should ask the public.

[@twixdog3316]

Hey JewBagel, ever think of a team like this: Shaina(L), Tiana, nuke nuke. With Shaina you won't get cut in and her speed lead helps Tiana's low base speed.

[@TheDESTROYRR95]

Too bad twins cant attack separate monsters at the same time

[@michaelmurray8195]

for those slow twins, maybe slow shield will cleave?

[@jj_1167]

Is it worth using the sister? Only have Light boomerang and water chakram

[@stagaz45]

Anyone knows the song at 22:42 ?

[@DeltaTried]

Am I the only one that wonders why Melissa is the only chacram with a different 2nd skill?

[@cherriagana]

So what did we learn today: Strippers need speed.

[@mattywalsh11]

Just started playing the game again and I have wind chakram and boomerang. Are they good and worth building or will I wait for other ones

[@Siegram999]

tldr all the elemental twins are good but for PvE in general Water boom and fire chakra are the best combo but all of the none ld twins are decent/good with water chakram as exception

[@cosmickirby4793]

Matty Walsh Wind boomerang extends how many turns a debuff last. Imagine a four turn slow debuff on necro boss. Any debuff can be extended I think even inability effects too but I’m not certain. Wind boomerang I don’t know but it’s better to use two than one.

[@pojangy6634]

What is considered early game, mid game and late game? I want to see what stage of the game I'm in

[@bintivu5944]

Josh Koh imo: early: until you can nearly clear all rune dungeons mid: spd up ur rune dungeons and clearing every other pve content late: you are starting putting ur best runes on all ur pvp teams and ur rune dungeon teams are stillf safe and fast on tier 2 or left over runes

[@socoblue1988]

Still waiting for Shaina on my main...have Maruna and Melissa (wind chak) but Maruna + Shaina would be so much better. Or the water ones.

[@FinHorrill]

just got shaina so happy u released this shit!!!!!

[@Endrahill]

Hi Schizophrenic Gamer i have dark boomerang and white chakram dancer. Can you give me some advice ? With what unit Can i use they together in guild wars? ( sorry for my bad language ) :D

[@Krueck33]

RIP Shaina Sabrina

[@ksk-berdush3195]

was hoping at the end for some rift showcase

[@Thinkerbelle486]

Where to get these chakram dancer?

[@Parkjoonho18]

Really good idea for video. They are new 4star version of wind joker or water pirate or wind dancer because so much place to be usedful. Fire version that passibe is one i say is devilmin able. I think early player when they get monster as wind joker or fire passibe version of these should devilmon. Second one maked not so much to use devilmon.

[@SB-kz9mq]

this is a very well set up video, thank you for this one jewby

[@grobertoac2430]

But the real question is : *how to get shakrams/boomerangs?*

[@tenatactics4503]

Dear Mr. Bagel I own a Vivachel since about 1 year ago and I don´t have any fucking idea of how to use it... it is a big disgrace since she looks soo good and is the only nat 5 L&D unit that I have... I will really apreciate a video obout how to rune her, speed tune her and teams compositions with her

[@olimkd4938]

which elements is the best for fast gb10 team

[@LveparodieGoP]

These twin combos are OP AF

[@CuddleUTube]

Player versus Environment? i mean yea its true but i always used it as Player vs. Engine xD made sence for me

[@mouachongchue1295]

I used Vamp (set4 ~set6) and revenge (Set1 ~ Set2)

[@matthewbesherse7001]

How do you rune the new druid girls?

[@Azombiebaby]

I use Shaina in Toah and especially the 100 floor, I did Toah 100 female rotation the other day, I combo'd her with Sabrina and they nuked down two Junos before they made their first move. Shaina though, I never found did much damage and she kept dying against the male boss so I have her on Spd/Crtd/Hp% and now she's much safer to use even in PVP. I have her around 170/180spd and she works fine. Sabrina though, I took off Violent and gave her broken runes high damage att/crtd/att at around 150/160spd

[@utilae1]

I used Baretta, Shaina, Sabrina, Chasun, Kroa - full attack bar reduction, so the boss never gets a turn. All on 180+ speed.

[@multirider049]

I think some of those twins could be for labyrinth

[@andrewevans3913]

Tell me that Giana was not on violent please. Apart from that, I think the most deadly combos are Maruna-Deva and Shaina-Bailey. Nice stuff, Bagel. We need more of that. What about "How to build a team around... x monster" videos?

[@andrewevans3913]

Oh another thing, i don't think revenge is a good set in most of them cause they dont team up in revenges, they need to actually take a turn.

[@whydoyouexist9721]

@@andrewevans3913 Another crazy combo is Shaina-Martina-Talia they turn DB10 into a complete joke

[@andrewevans3913]

@@whydoyouexist9721 Uh, i wasnt thinking about farming, but you're right, that's a pretty deadly combo, even if i think Shaina-Martina-Sabrina is a safer and stronger combo. My two combos from above were about guild wars/guild siege btw.

[@alexandercruz924]

I’ve been waiting for this video! Bless up daddy Jew

[@cindylin3579]

The weird thing is that I have 4 Shanias and 2 boomerangs.

[@Treyzony]

Actually, I don't like revenge on them, but with shield / fight, i can live with

[@ottonormalverbraucher5411]

Wanted shaina skillups from scam stones this week got woosa not disappointed

[@DMpyro3]

Wanted a shaina, pulled a fake 5 zenobia, very disappointed

[@ericsonbernabe7987]

i keep on getting boomerangs ihave them all except for the ld

[@shohintour200]

Hey guys how do you play the game on computer?