Sun Stream vs Clearlight: Which Infrared Sauna Is The Best?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

If you're interested in the Sun Stream sauna, head over to: aferg.co/sun and tell them Alex Fergus sent you for a discount. For the Clearlight sauna, follow this link: aferg.co/clearlight Mention Alex Fergus for a discount! 00:17 Intro 01:45 Sun Stream Sauna - Walkthrough 02:02 Clearlight Sauna - Walkthrough 02:17 Materials Used 07:28 Heater Panels 16:40 EMF 25:30 Accessorizes & Features 28:06 Prices 32:23 Warranty & Shipping

[@angelfiremimosa]

Hey Alex. I bought the red light as per your recommendation. Does it come with an Australian plug or will I have to get an adaptor?

[@angelfiremimosa]

Ps I used your ALEX code!!

[@scotthughes7440]

I just called Sunstream on a Sunday and Kevin the owner picked up immediately. I was highly impressed and am going to order the Evolve 10

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Nice enjoy the Sauna. Kevin is a top bloke.

[@savedbyJesus2019]

An amazing honest and informative vid. Thank you so very much!

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Great, thanks so much for your comment! -- Bart from team Alexfergus

[@paulaitken280]

Hi Team Fergus, I have recently purchased the Evolve 30 and are loving it! Thanks for your video review it was helpful in my making my eventual decision. Mark from Sun Stream was also great to deal with.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Thanks so much Paul!! -- Bart from team Alexfergus

[@justbe3925]

Why did you go with evolve 30 vs clearlight is-3? Looking to purchase one this week. I’m torn between sun stream 20 or clearlight premier is-3. Any feedback will be much appreciated. Thanks.

[@paulaitken280]

@@justbe3925 There were a few factors. The 20 is probably hotter and heats quicker but I think two people would be tight and I also wanted to use it with people I train and family members. In terms of the Clearlight Premier 3 it was still more expensive and I couldn’t justify why. There was also a long wait on on delivery which was unacceptable. Likewise, I tried an Evolve 30 and was very happy. Plus I believe they have apparently ironed out their EMF issues with the new model. Plus Mark from Sunstream Aus/NZ was great to deal with. I feel for you because I was in your shoes too only a few months ago. Try them out if you can. You probably won’t go wrong either way. Feel free to ask any specific questions as I feel like my knowledge base has grown in the last 6-12 months! Cheers Paul

[@justbe3925]

Thanks a million. That makes sense. The Sun stream evolve definitely seems like the better product because of the heaters on the door. I followed Matt Justice for a while and could never get a clear answer on why there were no reviews on sun stream saunas. Glad I stumbled across sun stream today. I literally had my credit card in my hand, ready to purchase something else. Clearlight asked me to wait till March for an is-2. Smh!!! Unacceptable. I only considered the is-3 because it’s in stock. Now, I’m leaning heavily towards the 2 person evolve.

[@paulaitken280]

@@justbe3925 Indeed, I would of got the 20 but I just needed more space. Matt Justice used to work for Sun Stream. If you go to his latest 30 Saunas in 30 days he will detail what happened. I have found his content and education to be invaluable. I am very happy with the product and company. Good luck

[@DrSeanReyes]

Thanks for this review I'm definitely grabbing one. Will do stretches/yoga in it. Listen to an audio book. Ideally I want to place the red light panels flush against the glass and let it shine in. If you could test to even see if this setup is plausible it would be much appreciated! Also, which panel do you think would be ideal for this? Meaning, which panel (if any) could deliver the therapeutic irradiance between 100-200mw/cm2 from a distance of ~3-4 feet and does the sauna glass affect this?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, If you want to do stretches and yoga in it you may want to go with Clearlights 5 person Hot Yoga sauna, Sunstream don't have a sauna as big as that Clearlight. My saunas are all in storage at the moment, as we're building a new gym/office, but that should be up in a few weeks and I can do a test for you then. Though 100-200mw/cm2 is extremely high, you would have to have a new BioMax and be within 6 inches to get close to these sort of figures. I'm not sure what glass does to the light (from an irradiance point of view). I will test it for you and get it up next year

[@DrSeanReyes]

@@LightTherapyInsiders I should probably clarify that irradiance, I thought I read somewhere 100-200mw/cm2 was the ideal level but that does seem high. I went through some emails and found where Dr. Lamaro stated regarding his Mitogen panels: Our panels are 100mw/cm2 @ 6”, I recommend using it at 12” though, as you may know, more is not better, and the best clinical results in the literature are found between 5 and 50mw/cm2 applications."

[@mudboyssweden9154]

Can i buy a sunstream to Sweden ? Great video 👍 i am gooing to buy my first sauna

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

You would need to ask the company. They may ship it to Sweden.

[@BEP693]

Perfect, thanks a LOT!

[@maverickreviewed7894]

How does the Sun stream compare to the Radiant sauna? Also, my wife loves her platinumLED as well.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey. I haven't used the Radiant sauna sorry so I can't comment on this. But I do own two Sun Stream saunas and I'm happy with them. I also have 2 mates with Sun Stream and my Sister has one as well. And no one has a bad word to say about the Sun Stream saunas.

[@futbol1972]

How hot do the mini evolve gets?

[@bramarends1759]

Hello and thank you for this comparison. Fortunately/unfortunately I've already purchased the Clearlight outdoor sauna and love it. However I'd like to clarify the use of towels in the sauna and when you talk about 'light'. Can you please clarify where the light is coming from vs the infrared heat. Also if I use a towel over the back rest (which came complimentary with mine) am i blocking heat? Are you also able to provide details on best practice on the temperature and time in the sauna? Sometimes I might have only 30 mins available and do this at a higher temperature. Or am I better waiting till I have more time eg 45 - 60 mins and do at a slightly lower temp. Thank you and love your work.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, so the light is coming from the black panels. It's this light that is creating the heat. Now a thick towel will block the light hitting the body, but you're still getting the systemic full body benefits from the heat in the sauna. Ideally I would minimise towel/clothing that goes in between the body and the heater panels. But it's not end of the world. IR saunas work differently to a steam sauna and dry sauna -where the body responds to the hot/humid environment. IR saunas use Infrared Light which hits the body and heats the body - though at the same time there is a environmental factor as well (i.e. the hotter sauna) but the air temp of a IR Sauna is much lower than a dry sauna. I haven't covered best protocols - I'd recommend looking into the work by Dr Rhonda Patrick - she has a great YT channel and covers this topic far better than I ever could.

[@albertomontelv]

Could you explain why the full spectrum heaters on the clearlight saunas could be damaging for our health? I have a sanctuary clearlight sauna. Thanks. Also, what a your thoughts on the new light therapy that they are selling to be used inside the sauna.?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Some research indicates that excess NIR - such as people working near an open flame all the time in industry - produces skin damage. I don't agree with Alex on that NIR in the Clearlight can be damaging, but, I will say that the case can be made either way, so Alex can turn out right about this. -- Bart from team Alexfergus

[@kdboone04]

My husband is a firefighter and one of our main goals is toxin removal. Is there one over the other that would fit this bill?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

All IR saunas should work great. I suggest he looks into the Niacin Detox Protocol. I touched on it here - www.alexfergus.com/blog/my-experiences-with-the-niacin-infrared-sauna-detox-protocol

[@briechilli4496]

Prices on both saunas websites are way higher than you mentioned.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

What websites did you use? Different geographical areas can have different prices and some sauna companies have different websites for different geographical areas (such as Australia, US, EU, etc). -- Bart from team Alexfergus

[@faschaeffer]

Hi Alex. Thanks for your comparison. I really appreciate your details. Could you comment on the internal dimension of these two saunas. When I see this correctly the clear light is much taller insight than the sun stream by quite a bit. This would mean I could not stand in the clear light. Not sure how tal you are. But could you comment on your experience in this regard.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

The Sun Stream website states that their Evolve 20 sauna is 69 inches high on the inside. The Clearlight website states their sauna is 74 inches high internally. Good question! -- Bart from team Alexfergus

[@faschaeffer]

​@@LightTherapyInsiders Yes, the internal sizing is on the website. Would have been good to hear from Alex, his personal experiences using them. Does he feel the sun stream is big enough for him to sit on the bench sideways etc. ? The image on sun streams website must be very small given how easy she fits in it.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

@@faschaeffer Hey - Alex chipping in here. I get hundreds of emails/comments a week so need to offload some of these to my team. But happy to answer this myself. I just jumped in both saunas to test this out. In the Sunstream my hair is just touching the ceiling if I stand up straight (I'm 178cm or 5'10) In the clearlight I can fit a finger in between the ceiling and my head. So the clearlight has a slightly higher ceiling (no more than an inch). I hope this helps!

[@faschaeffer]

Alex Fergus, thanks for sharing your insights, again much appreciated. Leaning toward the sun stream. Just not yet sure if I take the 2 people evolve you have or the two people supreme. So hard by just reading online. Though blogs and videos like yours really help. :-)

[@094340]

Particle board and plywood are not the same thing. From my understanding, Clearlight uses plywood on top, which, according to them, is non toxic with no formaldehyde.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Thanks for your message! Still, plywood is also produced with tons of adhesives, which can be emitted during heating, so I'd still not opt for that choice :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus.com

[@094340]

@@LightTherapyInsiders According to Clearlight...who I contacted, their plywood is not heated and is only used outside the sauna cabinet. My preference is that they not use plywood at all, but they are adamant in that the plywood they use causes no off gassing, and therefore is not toxic. If you have contrary information please produce it. If not, then I think it's misleading to infer that the plywood presents a hidden danger.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

@@094340 , thanks! If you watch the video, you can see the plywood is on top of the Clearlight sauna, and is technically heated during the process. There's no additional layer between the plywood and the air below. Have you asked them how the plywood is made, if historically, glue is used to hold the layers of wood together? -- Team Alexfergus.com

[@094340]

@@LightTherapyInsiders "technically heated"? Please clarify because as I stated, I spoke with Clearlight and was told that no heating was used in the processing of the plywood. I was also assured no toxic glues were applied. Look, I'm not here to give you a hard time, but these are your videos, and the information you're putting out there is questionable, at least as it concerns Clearlight saunas. It's apparent that you are unsure of the facts regarding their saunas, that's why I have been asking you to unequivocally confirm the information in your videos. You don't seem able to do that. I've been researching extensively prior to making a decision on which brand of sauna to purchase, so having accurate information is essential. If you cannot provide 100% proof of the information you've provided on their saunas, then I have to wonder why you make them at all.

[@ajeckler]

⁠@@094340you’re 100% wrong. I was just at a Clearlight showroom and the salesperson there talked about the space above the sauna and the importance of venting the top of the sauna (we’re building a sauna room) for any heat or moisture. You’ve clearly got your own bias, so what more evidence do you want? Video is just saying an all wood construction for a sauna that gets warm is preferable to plywood (which does use glues and adhesives). He’s not saying Clearlight isn’t safe… he’s sharing his preference. You’ve got a bias that seems greater than the people working for the company.

[@futbol1972]

Iam debating between the premire is-1 clearlight one persona and the sunstream mini evolve??

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, I love my mini. It's great value as well

[@kdboone04]

Also- If you don't have a separate NIR/light therapy is it better to get the clearlight that has both?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

It's up to you and what your goals (and budget) are. I use my SunStream alongside my PlatinumLED Red Light Panels

[@PenquinGurl]

Hi Alex - do you know if any Sun Stream saunas are for outdoor use?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

I don't believe so no. I think you may be able to get an outdoor weather proof cover for them, but it's not something I know much about sorry. Flick them an email or a phone call and I'm sure they'll be able to help you

[@k1chko]

I don't have space indoors, is there an outdoor equivalent of the Sun Stream?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hi Lee! I'd call with Sun Stream and ask them what's possible. Moreover, we're also publishing a review on infrared blankets soon that are perfect for people who have little space in their houses! So stay tuned!! -- Bart from team Alexfergus

[@mashiachadonai]

EXCELLENT!

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Many thanks!

[@JMast]

How long does it take these to fully heat up?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, about 10-25mins depending on the sauna and the temperature of the room. I think I do the test in this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6C7aYpjaNJpeaM

[@scottreaves6931]

How hot did these get?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Raising the air temperature is not the main mechanism by which an infrared sauna works. Instead, the infrared penetrates into your body and heats you from the inside. So the principle with infrared saunas is unlike regular saunas that DO heat the air around you. :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus

[@justbe3925]

Which one gets hot faster?

[@loreboto5116]

Can you buy the Sun Stream in the US?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Sure can! They're based in the US :)

[@cristinacamero3733]

Do they sell sauna for women?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Men and Woman can use the same saunas :)

[@Elizabeth-uq2ll]

I noticed that too Cristina 😂

[@arieswaters]

He is wrong here women cannot use saunas . They should never use them. That is a scientific fact

[@popokatapetl6995]

Any link for one person saunas comparing

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Sorry? Check this out - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYSUc6B3lq2iq5Y

[@Elizabeth-qm2vf]

what evolve number is this one?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Good question! Sun Stream Evolve 20 EHS. -- Bart from team Alexfergus

[@LiMi4IT]

You need to fix the caption for each sauna 2:00

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Hey, very good catch! You're very attentive! We hadn't caught that mistake when initially editing the video and it's impossible to turn it back right now (as we'd have to delete the video and lose all likes and views). BUT: thank you very much for the correction! :) -- Bart from team Alexfergus

[@fionalewis3121]

Hi, are you a kiwi and in NZ?

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Yes and yes. I live in rural Taranaki :)

[@wiegraf9009]

I have a bad cedar allergy so a full cedar sauna sounds like my worst nightmare!

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Eeek yeah not a good idea. SunStream saunas also do a non-cedar sauna. In fact I think it's a bit cheaper.

[@woodbutcherjc]

Not particle board. Plywood is what that looks like.

[@LightTherapyInsiders]

Some saunas have particle board underneath and up top.