Sun Yat-sen - A Killing in Hong Kong - Part 1 - Extra History

[@extrahistory]

Sun Yat-sen was a dangerous man. The Qing were right to fear him. After all, he’d bring 2,000 years of imperial rule crashing down. bit.ly/EHPatreon

[@pyeitme508]

Please do a video about the Division 2?

[@TheRid16]

A typo in the thumbnail. It written Hong Hong. Hope I helped.

[@SqurtieMan]

Says Hong Hong in the thumbnail

[@tobigrussia1372]

Pls do the philipines liberation and evry momment

[@theresahall8206]

From the sounds of it it was only a matter of time before the people scream bloody murder! They were pretty ticked at that point.

[@unclebilly6364]

Thank you for doing a series on this. Most people I know, including me, don't know nearly enough about China, a country which influences us so much today. Glad Chinese history is getting more attention!

[@Haannibal777]

Uncle Billy I am from Hong Kong but I probably don't know about this in enough details.😭 I remember studying this in school when Hong Kong was still a colony but they didn't go into the specifics. Keep up the good work!

[@Coffee_paradox]

Haannibal777 How so? I’m pretty sure that I was taught when in comes to Sun: how they based they operation in HK,The number of times where he failed to overthrow the government, how he fled to japan, the idea of 「三民」the three principles of the people, and how the national party fight against the communist one.

[@ghostdukevladamir5101]

I have done research on China 1900 to 1950 but I don't know enough about SunYatSen so this is good

[@marcc1830]

@@Haannibal777 For good reasons. The general policy in answering elective question in HKG public exam is to avoid any questions about modern China because you don't know which way the teacher that is going to mark your exam would lean towards :p

[@skeletonwizard708]

I can already tell this is gonna be the coolest shit

[@Trolligarch]

I've never been so excited for a KZbin series ngl. Sun Yat-sen was such a legendary figure that both the Communists (in China) and the Nationalists (in Taiwan) revel him as a hero of China. Not many figures can be so acclaimed.

[@purocatio8457]

"flooding the market with cheap, mass produced goods" ironic

[@moviefan005]

Guess who CCP learned their arts from?

[@dragatus]

The Chinese learned and remembered.

[@thomasemond2173]

China's ways are totally illegitimate.

[@merrittanimation7721]

They'd know better than anyone how effective it is.

[@unifieddynasty]

@@thomasemond2173 China's making up for the century of humiliation. Everything that China currently does was done to them by Westerners in the 1800s, and even worse things.

[@mikecheng6010]

As a Chinese, I am so grateful for this excellent episode for Chinese history. Thank you for your video. As a fellow Cantonese, I am so proud of my countryman receiving tremendous respects from all of Chinese people, domestic and abroad.

[@SupercellularChaos]

Don’t judge

[@SupercellularChaos]

I mean to say that to other people

[@XYZ19856]

I'm curious. what do most people in China think about Sun Yat-Sen?

[@gr33nmantis99]

My great grandpa knew him when he immigrated to HK

[@nitpickersheadliceremoval3805]

Coooooool (slowly backs away)

[@yg6484]

Man. Seems your blood has quite a history. No matter how involved he was.

[@LeviBostianswag]

🧢

[@charlstanly4637]

My great grandma sucked his wee when he came to work

[@xtimes3952]

I live in hongkong

[@squashgoogolplex9392]

Seeing the flag they used made me go, "Isn't that the thing in the top left-hand corner of Taiwan's fla- Oh." _"Oh"_

[@henryficklin7176]

Yep

[@Thomas-gx3md]

Reminds me of when I was in High School and I had a similar reaction to finding out Taiwan is the Republic of China.

[@HaloFTW55]

It’s why I refuse to call Taiwan “Taiwan” but “The Republic”, “The Other China”, and “ROC”. Both countries are two not-that-unlike sides of the same coin that is China.

[@neilisbored2177]

@@HaloFTW55 China 2: Electric Boogaloo

[@frenchfrete]

How I wish it was the Republic of China that won the civil war

[@abcdef27669]

“Coming up: A Kidnapping in London”. Totally a noir movie title.

[@CornishCreamtea07]

Or a pulp novel from the early 1900s

[@tec-jones5445]

How about all of the above?

[@asalways1504]

Would totally see that in the theatre.

[@elhombredeoro955]

Kidnapping in Canada

[@paradox_1729]

Kidnapped in London is the name of a book Sun yat-sen wrote.

[@DavidChipman]

Good grief, EH! That cliff-hanger! Looking forward to more!

[@RealHipHoManiac]

A lot of people in the West do not know of this legendary man, good on Extra Credits for covering him!

[@nobblkpraetorian5623]

His revolution was overshadowed by Mao and the rise of communism.

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

Sun Yat-Sen, my literal role model. Passionate, determined, charismatic, open minded, and the Founder of Modern China

[@Madhattersinjeans]

I'm skeptical of just about everything I hear of Eastern countries, I just don't know if their historians have an agenda or not. Also skeptical of a lot of older events that occur in Western countries as well but after about 1800s it starts to get a bit better in terms of reliability (knowing if a battle actually happened). Of course the smaller details will always elude us in terms of reliability.

[@joezhou622]

@@constipatedwonka8061 No actually, Sun Yat-Sen is very well known in China, both mainland and Taiwan, praised by both the CCP and the KMT as the first to tear down the imperial rule and the founder of modern China, whatever you see that is. Both the Communists and the Nationalists revered him as a hero, one of the few things CCP and KMT could agree on.

[@SupposeKennethed]

@@constipatedwonka8061 mao legitimacy as the leader is derived from sun as he claimed to be the true successor to father of the nation. sun's portrait still stands in tiananmen square infront of mao's portrait. if i remember correctly, back when i lived there, the first salute of the flag raiser during public events goes to sun's portrait, and the second one goes to mao's. whether if it's political decision or they truly revered him back during the civil war, it's irrelevant, as today, sun's more respectable than even mao for both the political class and the general public.

[@DragoniteSpam]

2:30 Guess times have changed a bit?

[@PilkScientist]

oh how the turns have tabled

[@luqcrusher]

This is China’s revenge.

[@chrisq.6976]

Haha I was thinking that too

[@LeonaPrime]

Yeah... bout that...

[@Edax_Royeaux]

The country with the factories always outcompetes the counties without the factories. Back then China wasn't industalized. Nowadays the US doesn't bother with factories because the US workers wanted a decent living. In a global economy, desperate workers outcompete everyone else.

[@HyperventilatingHylian]

I never knew Chinese history could be so fascinating. You guys have a special way of fixing my attention on topics I normally wouldn’t be interested in.

[@WildBillCox13]

I've read Sun Yat Sen's "Kidnapped in London". It's well written, easy to read, and a rollicking good adventure. Far better than Doyle's or Rohmer's best.

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

You know, it's funny, I've known this guy's name fo years and years, but never had any idea who he was.

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

Lmao

[@euansmith3699]

I know what you mean. I'd gotten him mixed up in my head with Chiang Kai-shek.

[@jaychung1380]

Looks like 350 ppl felt the same.

[@BHuang92]

A very important man in the history of modern China. Too bad other guys like Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong overshadowed his legacy. His idea of a stabilized government is yet to be realized.........

[@rodi8206]

@@euansmith3699 Dang, me too...

[@the_changerang]

Yahooooo!!!! Thank you so much! I've been waiting until you guys did a series on him! You guys are amazing!

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

Wansui Zhonghua Minguo!

[@marooneer8470]

It's 中华民国万岁

[@HaloFTW55]

How about just leaving it as simply “中國”. Arguing won’t get you anywhere, just look at the millions already dead.

[@Kabutoes]

Thank you for doing this, Sun Yat Sun was an underrated figure in human history

[@guibin]

"flooding China with cheap manufactured goods" how ironic...

[@Justaguy852]

Now it's the opposite

[@lapz78]

I hate you

[@Brandonhayhew]

China never forgot

[@njord3582]

The Sun has finally set on the Chinese empire.

[@zomgitskai]

Wow took me a second... Brilliant! :P

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

Lol Sun Zhongshan/Sun Yat-Sen was a great man. He was, but also still is. Though dead, his spirit and ideas are still influential

[@robertwalpole360]

The Mandate of Heaven has fallen to the schism of men.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

The sun still shines on the Republic of China.

[@mrpellagra2730]

Yeah.

[@Achillez098]

FINALLY!!! A series about my idol Dr. Sun Yat Sen I am eternally grateful :D

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

Same here!

[@zhaohuideng8836]

2:24 That is not a proper map. In 1879, Qing dynasty Still ruled over Taiwan Island, Hainan Island, and whole Mongolia. Before that, in 1842, when Britain got Hong Kong, Qing dynasty still ruled over Amur River region, Sakhalin island, Almaty region and eastern part of Kyrgyzstan.

[@taptiotrevizo9415]

Ok paytron user

[@polandballhistorian8537]

wow ur so smart it’s not like literally everyone knows that

[@fawwazn.1244]

@@polandballhistorian8537 probably only the hardcore EU4/VC2 player knows that information

[@johnbecker3116]

This episode of extra history lies

[@aoli8142]

@@fawwazn.1244 Or the Chinese student XD

[@mlovecraftr]

Thank you for making this but please revise your maps!

[@TheVoiceOfReason93]

It's almost heartbreaking to watch Sun Yat-Sen's story, to know the story of a great man who dreamed of bringing his country and his people to a good future, knowing where this would all ultimately lead to...

[@condor2347]

I love this channel, purely because of the amount work that goes into these videos and the amount of different and some would say obscure topics covered in each of the extra history videos ❤️ keep up the good work

[@gac-berry3596]

I love how you guys open anew extra history series with a cold opening to make you want to watch more!

[@amyreynolds7244]

This is amazing! I feel like it's one thing for me to not know the early history of a country like China (which I still want to learn more about!) but the fact that I've never heard of anything you're talking about in this video--stuff that shaped the modern country that's still around in tangible ways--is huge!

[@elijahjames7267]

How has no one made a movie about this? This is badass!

[@taylorhancock5834]

Wow, this looks amazing. I never knew anything about Sun Yat-Sen aside from his name and his overthrow of China, but now I can't wait to see and learn more. Great video guys!

[@KASA852]

I teach in a primary school... And I love sharing your videos to my students. Seriously one of my favourite channels on KZbin. You guys are amazing. Thank you

[@Tido0903]

Nicely done. Just to point out one inaccuracy. At 5:55 you guys said that China lost Vietnam to France, implied that Vietnam belonged to China before the French took over. In fact, Vietnam was its own independent country until the late 19th century when the French colonized Indochina. The last time China ever occupied Vietnam before then was in the early 15th century when we promptly kicked them off.

[@jansenjunaedi4926]

Vietnam was China's tributary.

[@Tido0903]

@@jansenjunaedi4926 every country around China was its tributary at one point or another. It doesn't mean China owned Vietnam.

[@kaiyuzuki3418]

who is we

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

@@TTminh-wh8me no. Vietnam (champa kingdom) are in alliance with Majapahit (indonesia kingdom) through marriages and trade, and together we made genkhis khan and the Xing emperor runs for his money :v

[@OliBolivia]

Maybe: China lost "control" over Vientam to France would be clearer

[@leoncheng6768]

Thank you so much for doing this. This topic was the only thing me and my dad had in common when I was a kid.

[@cheese3284]

Wow, honestly, that was way better than I expected. Amazing job.

[@deefergy]

I love it/ hate it when you post new series, because they’re so good that I just want to watch the whole story at once!

[@yakuzabalooza450]

I love how this channel keeps getting better and better! I like the nice art in this video along with the coloring! Keep it up guys!

[@thegeneral2982]

I was hoping you would do a series on Dr. Sun, he was such world changing man, too bad the revolution ended how it ended and now we are with two Chinas. Amazing video, im excited for the next one!

[@eruyommo]

2:30 So today we're seeing China's revenge?

[@yolandacui2571]

Erómeon I knew someone would have brought that up. No we don’t revenge, just karma. ;)

[@htoodoh5770]

Yolanda Cui Karma is shit

[@htoodoh5770]

Ok

[@yolandacui2571]

Htoo Doh yeah karma sucks when it’s your turn to take it. Lol

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

Yeah, lmao

[@ashleyhyatt6319]

Glad to see this! I hope we get more Chinese history. I loved the series on The First Opium War! I'm currently reading Imperial Twilight by Stephen R. Platt. It's great!

[@subtotalaljar3620]

Gotta admit less than 5:00 minutes in and I already like this guy.

[@ozapy]

The more series you make, the more I realize how important the Opium Wars were

[@aai4644]

God that shot where the kid realized that his dad was dead fucking crushed me.

[@aeronjamessalvatierra9138]

Tbh, since the departure of the last narrator, this video brought me back. I am sooo exited for the next one

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

Same here. Best part is that Sun Zhongshan is my idol

[@TheKalihiMan]

Here in Hawaiʻi, we still celebrate Sun Yat Sen’s legacy, as it was his time in the Kingdom of Hawaiʻi that shaped his revolutionary values. Ironically, many in the US try to claim responsibility for his contributions, completely ignoring the fact that the Chinese Exclusion Act that was enforced at the time, as well as the Kingdom of Hawaiʻi’s sovereignty, would have prevented this.

[@graceneilitz7661]

Much of his schooling was American focused, and he was in Hawaii in the late 70s- early 80s when Americans had a huge influence in Hawaii. There is a reason why it was so easy for the Hawaiian government to be overthrown. Also the Chinese exclusion act was passed in 1882, less than a year before Sun Yat-sen went back to China. You can criticize the US all you want, but get your facts straight at least.

[@TheRoseFrontier]

Once again, Extra Credits throws this story out to me, a supposed history nerd, and I'm like 'wait, that was a thing?' I love it; this series is great! :)

[@d.d8486]

You made me like learning

[@PoseidonXIII]

One of my favorite time periods in history to learn about!! Thanks. :D

[@robrot404]

"cheap foreign goods flooded the chinese market" well well, how the tables have turned...

[@jamesfung3347]

My wife's great grandfather was a revolutionary comrade of Sun Yat-Sen in Macau and was the manager of the Pharmacy there. He was poisoned by the Qing agents after lured back to his village in China.

[@忠龙者]

He deserved it.

[@Kurotaisa]

Sun Yat-Sen: "Trust me, I'm a doctor"

[@brycevo]

From what my Grandfather told me, it was around either this time or around the revolution that my great grandparents came to Hawai'i

[@wugabriel3465]

How about straight after this series, you guys do the Chinese civil war or the Up rising of Mao. That'd be really epic

[@noahapa4054]

Hey guys love your channel, so informational! After watching this episode, I was hoping if you guys would continue the Hawaiian monarchy episodes. Aloha from Hawaii!

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

I thank Hawaii and its people for their support of Sun Yat-Sen and applaud their continual remembrance of such a great man and my personal hero/idol such as the Dr. Sun Yat-Sen Hawaii Foundation

[@romannasuti25]

Yep, all of us that came from Iolani are fairly familiar with him :) We still have a statue of him in front of Castle Building, and I think Punahou still has some memorial of him too. He went to Iolani for grade school and attended Punahou for his first semester of college (back when they were one).

[@Pikachu0071000CS]

Finally, this story. Sun Yat-Sen studied in our school when he was in Hong Kong (for less than a year before he went to a different school, the precursor for Queens College) and we have a statue of him in our school.

[@leOldGuard18]

DBS?

[@leOldGuard18]

Same bro

[@DuclosDocuments]

I just binged so many of these and now that I’m up to date it feels weird to wait

[@thevioletskull8158]

So we are get going to ignore that poor kid?

[@KevinMcScrooge]

Yes.

[@arandomyoutubeaccount3166]

No.

[@sutapapawar4686]

Finally! Thank You so much!

[@The24thPegasus]

This looks like a pretty great series. I don't know nearly enough about China, especially in the 19th/20th centuries, so this is promising to be quite enlightening. But you know what I'd really like to see a series on? The Able Archer wargames of 1983. Behind the Cuban Missile Crisis, it was probably the closest NATO and the USSR came to a nuclear war, and nobody knows about it. And if covering the Able Archer wargames isn't interesting enough, you should definitely look at Stanislav Petrov for one of your "Notable Figures in History" miniseries you occasionally do. The fate of the entire world rested on the decisions of one man, and he saved the world from nuclear armageddon. Surely he deserves a spot in an Extra History video at some point in the future.

[@eror5341]

This is still my favorite extra history series

[@emPtysp4ce]

Not gonna lie, at first I thought this was about current events in Hong Kong.

[@jackmarrowmapping1176]

Very nice topic to end 2018 on. I cannot wait to see where this series takes us and I wish you guys luck for all of your 2019 series's as well!

[@underconstruction6436]

Chinese history is filled with so many interesting stories and events glad they’re being covered here.

[@sharadowasdr]

This channel always finds a way to surprise with focussing on lesser known parts of history. Well done !

[@eyuin5716]

Will you ever do a series on Chandragupta Maurya?

[@adityaraman8901]

They had it in the polls multiple times. Genghis Khan defeated it by a narrow margin of 4-5 votes and recently it was defeated by Majapahit by a wide margin.

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

Chandragupta (321-298 BCE) or Chandragupta I (319-350 CE)

[@yashbisht33]

Chandragupta, the pre-CE one.

[@grlt23]

yes - we can make a religion out of it!

[@eldermoose7938]

That sounds awesome actually detailed India history is so hard to find

[@asalways1504]

Extra Credits, you've done it again! The suspense is killing me!

[@michaelfreeman8835]

1:02 Y'all can't just hit me with these feels out of nowhere, man!

[@Imboredlol]

You always make amazing cliffhangers. Can't wait to see the next episode.

[@itsjustaclint8404]

Sun Yat-Sen is a school. Not only there but here in my country.

[@alexanderkorol677]

2:44 look at all that detail! You guys get better every new series!

[@autofire55555]

"And they chose a day... October 26th..." Hey, my birthday!

[@splorfinatorjones2465]

I can’t wait for the next installment. This is really exciting, and I definitely should know more things about China’s complicated backstory.

[@Tosei0816]

Lol, Guan Yu is used as Triad symbol. I guess it's accurate, family loyalty and what not.

[@shinsenshogun900]

Jamie Lin Three Kingdoms = Triads?

[@SantomPh]

He is the patron god of organizations and brotherhoods. Even companies have him on the wall.

[@Tosei0816]

Spartacist Deutschland Guan Yu is worshiped as a war saint since he embodied the idea of loyalty, humility and discipline lay out in the art of war. It is common to see him in military bases, but of course Triad and Police love putting him around as well even in modern day Taiwan. Triad likes his Loyalty i guess and Police like his uncorruptable discipline. China is atheist now, so I can't be sure.

[@hcrdfju4954]

Spartacist Deutschland no

[@jiahangwu2975]

Even restaurants sometimes have a shrine, what do u think

[@TheNetherlandDwarf]

Thank you so much for this. It's something I studied and it was frustrating not to be able to discuss it with people in England as easily as, say, parts of the history of japan or India. Will you do other episodes on modern Chinese history? Or South East Asia? Even just on the evolution of western perception and how they constructed views of the region as despotic monarchies to theatre states and modern states; or on the dynamicism of religion in the region; if you needed to be more focused. It's all so interesting and so untouched in the western education system.

[@VealDeal]

Where are my fellow Hong Kongers?

[@jasmineyu493]

🙋

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

Wansui Zhonghua Minguo!

[@vuldrae1638]

Nei ho!!! (Hey) 😂

[@trolloftime5340]

Nei ho, Heung Kwong hing tai!

[@fakestupid4631]

Dim sin, C hing. 😁

[@NICKForTheWIN]

Always click on the notification for these, can't wait to see the video!

[@Talimara1]

“Opium still ravaged the country.” Me (ripping a packed bowl of Space Candy): Wack.

[@TheCreepypro]

oh my I can't wait to hear more this will finally fill the gap in modern chinese history that I longed for

[@DaRealRessonance]

Yong:Everything is gonna be alright Gangsters:(Triple knock) FBI OPEN UP!

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

*Yeung

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

Yeung

[@PsychShrew]

@@GeneralLiuofBoston1911 I think I know you from somewhere

[@jansenjunaedi4926]

Qing officials open up!! LOL

[@Marylandbrony]

Sun yat sen: (Looking at lewd pictures of Peni Parker) Yenug: Yenug open up!

[@samcheng5914]

Extra Credits keep on going!! You teach Chinese history much better than my teachers back in the day when I was a junior secondary student in Hong Kong

[@yulinfu860]

In mainland China, Sun is regarded as"the father of republic". A major university is named after him. And we display a giant painting of him at Tiananmen Square on special days.

[@jasoncarrillo5230]

HELL YEAH IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A SUN YAT SEN EPISODE

[@liam-ethanwallis4924]

2:29 Oh my god the irony

[@angusyang5917]

YESSSSS!!!! My country's founder, Sun Yat-sen, has finally made to Extra History!

[@Dragons_Armory]

Ahhhh, Empress Cixi...... Yep, heartburn's back. 😡

[@MomentsInTrading]

This series is off to a great start. I know nothing about the coming into this series. Interesting stuff 👍🏻

[@eduardoramirezjr4403]

Honolulu has always been a hot bed for revolution: Don Ho, Gidget goes Hawaiian, Tiki Culture, Hawaii 5-0, From Here To Eternity, Surfing, Duke Kahanamuko, Mai Tai and Blue Hawaii.

[@nooneinparticular5256]

Not to mention, it's also the same island as Pearl Harbor, Oahu. *The Gathering Place*

[@SVASH-hz5ji]

I'm from Taiwan and you guys taught me more about our founding father than my teacher did!

[@rebecapalacios643]

1:01 - 1:12 that part literally looked like a movie scene

[@nooneinparticular5256]

Chinese Batman

[@adamchen5936]

IT'S FINALLY HERE!

[@thatsaverygoodquestion856]

There's a school on Philippines named Sun Yat-Sen. I dunno why

[@GeneralLiuofBoston1911]

It was founded in dedication to Sun Yat-Sen by Chinese Filipinos after his death in 1925

[@AnimaRandom]

there are chinese here who fled from china to phil.

[@SupposeKennethed]

the dude is actually quite respected among other asians before he was even overthrew qing, as he travelled often to give lectures and build rapport with many different foreign powers, japan was a primary host for sun.

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

Even indonesia that had been frenemies with china PRC, adored Mr Sun.

[@octonomer]

I was just binging the channel and didn't realize this was a new video! I was in search for the next episode until I realized lmao

[@alexanderrodriguezygibson7418]

So Sun is like bolivar, he is very charismatic and is replacing a monarchy with a democracy.

[@TheDolphinator8]

This was really awesome, can’t wait to see more! Just wondering, where has the original host gone? Not that there is any problem with the current one.

[@angusyang5917]

At 3:00, it's a bit wrong. Manchus did not force the Chinese to adopt their culture, rather, the Manchus assimilated themselves into Chinese culture. In fact, at the height of the Qing dynasty, more Manchus had lost their native language in favor of Chinese, much to the disapproval of the emperors. It was only at that time, when the Qing government was struggling to assert their control, that Chinese people suddenly remembered that their emperor was a Manchu, and turned against them.

[@alicekim2201]

As having origin in Hong Kong and China I appreciate this series.

[@molihua354]

3:06 The map should include Mongolia as part of the Great Qing Empire.

[@camerongrow6426]

Another Extra history episode about a Legend I've never heard about but will respect and admire by the end.

[@UNION_JACK_THE_RIPPER]

sees this just as ive stopped playing the chinese civil war mod for company of heroes 2. Now i want to go continue playing

[@echoambiance4470]

OH YES I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

[@c0mpl3x1ty7]

2:00 some great borders right there

[@kingsofserbiangameplay1623]

I just can't wait for the next episode

[@vuldrae1638]

So glad you guys are making a video about this important man, so important that he is considered a forefather of China as we know it today. But for those of you who don't know what happens to Dr. Sun yat sen, it's not a happy ending, and even more sad if you're from Taiwan or even from Hong Kong and Macau because Communism sucks...

[@Marween]

Nooo. It’s getting interesting. Can’t wait for the next episode!