Shadowlands Should You Main An Arms Warrior!?

[@yoelcabrera2126]

For me warrior is one of those classes that feels through your veins, you feel identified with it when you have played it for a while

[@cDisturbed.]

I’ve mained warrior for years, don’t enjoy any other class

[@morningstar7726]

I have played Warrior for years and I couldn't agree more.

[@anlkaya]

playing wow since start of the cata and cant play anything since.

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

@@cDisturbed. Every time I think I can main something else, I pickup warrior for an hour, and I'm immediately pulled back in

[@Jbeasty1990]

Started as a warrior in BC, still sits at the top of my list (even on character screen) ever since. Now that I have tusks, warrior could be the most dogshit class and I'd still feel obligated to start/main it every expac lol. Just hope it at least is mid pack for SL.

[@ishi91]

once a warrior, always a warrior.

[@actavisprime514]

I only play warrior. Why would I play shadow priest when I can hit things with big ass swords . A philosophy I held when I was 12 and it still holds up today.

[@ObliviousApple]

if stormbolt was baseline, impending victory+the conduit would be sick

[@derekbush6239]

Storm Bolt should absolutely be baseline at this point, no questions asked. Making Impending Victory baseline as the "new Victory Rush" would also be extremely welcome.

[@eznex5249]

whenever i play any other class besides warrior it doesnt feel as fullfilling as playing my warrior even if they're in a bad state cant wait to crush

[@fozgoth]

You're not quite right on the way Overwatch works. The buff will last for 5 seconds and then disappear once a spell gets reflected, it won't block more than one spell. It's literally just Spell Reflection on a teammate.

[@galdrek7600]

I Wish they bring back old deep wounds sound.. :(

[@battleworn4847]

I love your videos Supatease, but please don't make it seem like Arms is so insane and can pick any comp they want and will be meta. Rage generation is still terrible, especially with Lucid Dreams going away. We have to talent into our only stun. We have many abilities have protect others but not ourselves. You have to sit in D stance the whole game bc you are always the target. Ignore Pain is not a MASSIVE shield like people make it out to be, it absorbs like one TV and it's gone. You get slowed the whole game and can't do anything without a healer. Even though it's always been like this, that doesn't mean it should be. I'm glad we get more mobility with leaper and shorter CD on DBTS, but the talent tree system and actual class issues are what always keep it from being meta or at least on par with classes like Monks and Rogues. Literally every class counters Warrior. I'm optimistic about Shadowlands and that warriors may be better, but I'm just focusing on what is wrong right now and what really needs changed. I, like many others, predict another caster expansion. Spell Reflect being nerfed was the least of warrior's problems. Anyway, great vid Supa. Love your content man.

[@meddik1618]

Well i mean, its a casual pvpr theorycrafting so take it with a grain of salt.

[@battleworn4847]

@@meddik1618 Yeah I get it I was just stating my thoughts like he encourages in the video.

[@789v4]

Is it better to level in Shadowlands as arms or fury?

[@dannymoontattoos]

as someone who mained war for years now, I never really found any significant difference. If youre new to the game and i mean literally shit for brains new to the game then fury for easier sustainability but if you know how to play wow just stick with arms and master your rotation to be quick on your feet and battle ready for gearing at max level/end game

[@Ernestas23]

I've been a warrior main since WoD, I hated every second playing warrior for the last 3 expansions, but now, it seems to be perfect, we have everything I wanted, at this point even self-healing is not longer required. Warriors have a lot of tools to deal with a lot of different situations and it feels super good.

[@meddik1618]

Aside from the rework ARMS has needed since wrath, still they cant decide on its mastery, resource, dmg mitigation and utility

[@jamesdiato]

Except for dot damage. That shit eats us alive.

[@Eckbet]

everytime i put youtube i´m wishing for a new Supatease video, entertainment and educational.

[@relaist]

I think you misunderstand how the % on stuff works. The intimidating fear w/e it's called. It's 80% more than base damage. So, if the base is 1K damage, it's now 1.8k damage, which does not make it at stun as you say.

[@dend1]

Because in addition to everything else, I like solo battlegrounds so I went sub rogue

[@FractalityX]

GOOD THING ITS A BLOODY MMO MATE

[@horyzons91]

Man, I just wanna say the words you use, your tone etc is super on point. It feels energized without being fake as shit. Love it

[@IFArakash]

Of course u should! After a 2 year break from Retail I've leveld a DK to 50 last week so i could unlock the Vulpera, bcuz what's funnier in PvP than chasing your opponents as a little fox with a huge Zweihänder on ur back? 😂

[@godlike4031]

For pve is good too with Skullsplitter + Deadly Calm if you are Venthur and Dreadnaught

[@slamjamtime202]

I'm a Fury Warrior main and obviously am not too stoked on how they're looking in shadowlands, so that legendary that gives you recklessness can let me get a little bit of that fury flavor so I can be happy with arms.

[@Ghostface4k]

@Jiminy Christmas Great in what? In PvE their at the bottom of the dps list and in PvP they're exactly like they were in BFA.

[@treevsgtar]

my man, i was literally just watching a diff vid of yours about to look for vids on arms, good timing!

[@zombyroid]

Warrior is always solid. They are seldom over or under tuned. They are consistent and reliable every season. The “Old Faithful,” of WoW. Warrior mains don’t need to be told if their class is good. They’ll play it either way.

[@peterkarlsson9053]

What spell would you chose if you ONLY cared about 2v2 with a resto druid? I will have an arms warrior alt just to do 2v2 arenas with my friend and the other ppl in our guild do 0 pvp so i'm not that interested in 3v3

[@Grotfang]

I rolled a sub rogue and i love it....that said...I will always wonder how warrior plays out.

[@grimmjow4784]

What do you think of a KFC comp with Survival and Discipline?

[@AvantVFX]

Ty for making another supatease video

[@medicah]

That language on overwatch is not new. It’s been there for a little bit because the wording tripped me out when I was really high. I don’t know the exact timeline

[@chill9871]

wait, did they remove that conduit that reduces the cd of die by the sword ?

[@medicah]

Because you to chill

[@Caspian1234]

Thanks so much for all the videos man. Very much looking to swap from prot pve to arms PvP. Love your content 💗 wouldn't mind some rotation / tips and tricks / macros

[@R1Looter]

What about the %chance to hit mortal strike twice. Why do you pick the overpower talent over that?

[@lnz3257]

i think because it´s more reliable overall dmg and has good synergie with the overpower talent in the last row. you also have 2 stacks of op more often so your ms also deals more dmg. Another thing to keep in mind is, that OP cant be doged blocked or parried.

[@sadcasterminion915]

If Arms isn't rage starved in SL I'd consider playing it. A class/specs NEED to feel smooth to play. If they'd fix SB/DT tier I'd main warrior in general tho.

[@metalicrenegade]

For arms warrior whats the perks of using a 2 handed weapon vs a sword&board and vice versa? I’ve been a tank playing PVE in the BFA and I’m looking to get into DPS as an alt during shadowlands

[@Flowerz__]

More dmg with 2 gander obviously. Shield potentially hood against other melee back in the day ppl used to have macros to equip a sword and shield during combat so u can shield block n stuff so that may be back a little bit now with arms.

[@metalicrenegade]

Ty for the reply. Thats exactly what I needed to know

[@Nascarsoccer]

Thanks for all the info!

[@bi0lizard1]

Supa....I know you did a video and in you said DH would be ‘fine’. But trust me...it’s not. The problem is what in practice amounts to a double hit!!!!! Here is what I mean....while other classes got back abilities, DH LOST vital survivability abilities. Even if the DH had back all their BFA abilities things would still be somewhat grim, based solely on the fact that other classes got back so much.

[@Ghostface4k]

Don't get me wrong Arms feels really fun to play right now. But i like to play solo PvP and i'm not much into arenas. So in solo and 1v1 Fury is still better because of the self healing. With Arms you're basicaly a sitting duck out there for all other classes... Not that Fury is way better, warriors generaly suck without a healer. But you can survive longer in fights, and recover if you fall back.

[@emjaythegreat22]

I Main is rogue in bFA and he was 130ilv my warrior was alt in bfa so he is only 105ilv I decided not to play rogue first I know sub is insane right now I pvp a lot with it in prepatch lol instant KO kills. I’ve been doing dungeons in shadowlands and I’m lowest I’ll of my guild and arms is pumping doing 2k+ single target already and some 4-5k burst aoe. And he’s not geared dreadnaught cleave aspect is insane and having two charges of overpower you always have rage and don’t feel starved anymore. With kyrian convenient you can do a big aoe with smash spear and whirlwind and cleave after your aoe is insane !!

[@orewaescanoresamada5740]

Am hard stuck hesitating between Arms and WW to main for PVP rated arena , any advices ?

[@ziggs123]

Warrior is better and easier to play. You can play with any comp while as ww you are limited and need 700 iq to survive in higher rating. But ww is without any doubt the most fun meele spec and rewarding when you master it.

[@orewaescanoresamada5740]

@@ziggs123 But whats more viable and reliable to push 2.4+ in SL ? And which spec is safer from nerfs ...

[@ziggs123]

@@orewaescanoresamada5740 100% warrior to push 2.4 but might get nerved in pvp. I highly doubt they will nerv monk, since the spec always does bad in pve

[@vincenzomusella3029]

@@ziggs123 warrior is even worse than monk in pve, wtf are you talking about

[@Flowerz__]

Dude I really want to get leaper... is it trash?

[@soufian2170]

Its actually really good for pvp. Makes us more mobile than DH lol.

[@henrydulonhernandez8043]

I know is not a popular choice but i use Skullsplitter in the first talent row, it helps with the rage problem. And for pve i like how cleaves works more than warbreaker i think a would definitely will main arms for pvp and pve but might change to fury in pve if i cant make it work with arms

[@lnz3257]

Sudden death is for the suprising burst and hard to calculate. it also giving you 20 rage back if the target isnt dying. when the healer think his teammate is safe because he was able to heal his mate all game but out of nowhere you get some lucky execute procs and they get into trouble combined with sharpend blade.

[@mtgrabbitwizard1679]

random battle grounds really makes it hard... are they good in that?

[@alexanderartemenko8597]

No lol

[@Rich-in6ds]

My issue with warrior is they are TERRIBLE in BGs. They’re amazing in arena but utterly useless when they don’t have a good healer with them. I absolutely destroy arms 1v1 on pretty much every class I play.

[@Crobian]

Lol I logged on warrior just to get the scourge event stuff after not playing it for 2 expansions and was like wait...why is this fun now!? Then this video comes up.

[@paigekahill3674]

necrolord because,the fuck if i wont get 2800 rating the armor is sick af lol

[@t1m0tee54]

Hi Supa, thanks for the great content. What do you think about the general legendary "Judgement of the Arbiter" in PvP (especially for arms)?

[@alexanderartemenko8597]

Its funny because I played a warrior for awhile and I know it's gonna be easy glad for me but the skillcapp is high. I think some people are gonna be surprised if they think they get a free ride.

[@Kohbra22]

I don't believe you. I've played this spec since release and you keep saying they are good for pvp, they are not. They are good in an arena group focused on them. If you're leveling up or world pvp or solo bging, the spec is subpar. Thats it.

[@didnthurt4077]

Yea i have seen a few reviews that state the same. Then when looking at the current dps chart they are mediocre. Im a warrior at heart, but i think i will pass this expansion. Also, i have a feeling warrior class in general is rage starved.. just doesnt play as fluid.

[@treevsgtar]

is rend still the way to go in arena?

[@dannymoontattoos]

always use rend, alwayssss

[@Ghostface4k]

Yes rend is the way in PvP in general!

[@AmazinglyGayPhil]

No massacre.

[@Ghostface4k]

@@AmazinglyGayPhil Actually massacre works fine too. If you pick massacre you'll go with Avatar and Dreadnaught. If you pick rend you switch to In for the Kill and Anger Management. Those are two build you can play. They are both pretty viable.

[@Cheekijake9]

I’m loving the arms warrior and want to pvp but I had to choose venthyr I love the execute damage and the overall look I couldn’t pick bastion even if bis but I feel like I can still perform with condemn

[@justinsandvig3181]

Condemm is less dmg then execute fyi

[@ricknewton459]

really, your videos have been more enjoyable to watch, as pvp is my interest only in this SL XP. I have made choices based off of your videos. SO far I am stuck choosing ARMS warrior or Feral Druid with healer in 2v2 arena. Thanks for the videos.!

[@swaff666]

Arms will be great for a month. Then the nerfs will come again like always... I have jumped ship from my arms warrior after 6 years.

[@alexanderartemenko8597]

They won't nerf utility

[@NoobGamer-di1dw]

@@alexanderartemenko8597 Yeah they’ll still be solid even if they get a damage nerf

[@Westesto]

Utility is what makes them great, not anything of common nerfs like “damage reduction”. They can’t just take abilities away.

[@Classiccolin]

stat prio ?

[@boubacorp]

Mortal Combo ....... feel more useful than piercing verdict in my opinion. Chance to trigger a second MS ? Damn thats strong. 4 sec Cd on the ms, don't forget that :)

[@IanWrigleyNZ]

With the Unhinged wrists that can proc on your two extra MS while bladestorming. It's some Windfury light burst.

[@ProtossOP]

How can you not main Arms? Well cause Fury is just better in everything but pvp.

[@SQLdb]

Arms warrior since vanilla. The spec has not been this much fun since Wrath.

[@celikblack]

@ I was thinking the same. MoP warrior was the beast!!

[@kizzaurey123]

Mop warrior was awesome!

[@SQLdb]

never enjoyed mop in general due to the slow pace, heavy cc meta.

[@Fliigh7z]

@@SQLdb But arms was the most oppressive. How could you not like it? Silence on Pummel and Heroic Throw, 3 different stuns with no DR + fear early on while being nearly unkillable because of Defensive Stance and Second Wind. Got redesigned fairly early on but Taste for Blood system was also broken. A lot of classes were OP but arms was one of the few classes I considered broken besides the 2 DPS druid specs because of HotW and Ele/BM because of burst.

[@kizzaurey123]

@@SQLdbI personally felt like MoP was the pinnacle of pvp 👍

[@laggy231]

So am I a huge idiot to level and pvp Prot?

[@vincenzomusella3029]

Yes.

[@Starplaya]

@Supatease bro I’m still going to main my ret , even if that means sticking to 2400 and not higher Question please answer: you talked about 2 ways of playing ret. Single target and AoE build which is more exotic with DS Would you still recommend this after the patch updates ? I’m scared they nerf it hard when it gets too popular. And advice is appreciated Ty for everything - a big time fan of yours

[@tonyngo1885]

The short answer is no because it plays like shit and the non-sarcastic answer is play what you find fun because it's your sub and you should enjoy your time with WoW.

[@BL4CKSTEEL]

Shit will get nerfed like it always does.

[@fungiferous404]

Yes. Yes I should ^_^ Been a warrior since TBC. Good to see us coming in hot.

[@HawkNocturnal]

I think I need to alt arms! But 2 mages and a warrior.. I have to no life.

[@Jkg71]

Do you Need to talent into avatar to take full advantage of Signet of tormented kings?

[@fungiferous404]

Supa, but whats the best teammates to find for 2s/3s for Arms? ;D

[@MY-ul3tj]

check skill capped wow channel recent videos

[@donwooss]

In 2s rdruid is best In 3s it works with evertything really

[@MY-ul3tj]

shammy is also a great option for more aggressive comp.

[@MarekVychodil]

Hello, what would you recommend to a someone starting with pvp (pvp noob), Arms or Retribution? In other video you mentioned that hybrid cleave will be strong. Arms seems pretty straightforward with being aggressive while soaking others damage. Thank you

[@Nr1Suchti]

If you are new, I would recommend you to go arms, because you can do well in the lower brackets (0-2000) without using the full toolkit. As ret its more important to use the whole toolkit to really be of use like BoP, Sanc, Offheals etc and tbh ret will always be more frustrating to play than warr. There are very good reasons, why ret has the stigma of a wheelchair class, a big issue stilk is mobility. Also warr has higher skill cap ceiling, you can refine, outplay and get deeper into the toolkit as you get to know your warr and pvp in general. In the end I still think you can habe a lot of fun with both and you should play what you are drawn to the most. We put our lifetime into the game, it should be fun. :) Have a good one !

[@EduardoCadena1]

Well if you want gameplay to be fun play arms. If you want to smash the same 3 buttons play ret

[@_Malvar]

if you want to full immunity bubble, stun them, and do big dick smash for a short time, play ret. if you want to do good sustain dmg ,good burst, and always get targeted by frost mages, play arms

[@MarekVychodil]

Thank you guys, that's what I thought.

[@raphael.portela]

great vid!! war or dk??

[@19krychu08]

is arms really that bad in pve?

[@Ghostface4k]

Yes both Warrior specs suck in PvE right now. They're at the bottom of the list.

[@dusk1947]

Because Druid is still a class in WoW... Duh?

[@timperley69]

Been a warrior from day 1 in my wow adventure 14 years ago, just cant shake the class, and dont want to.

[@FightinTheGorlax]

What happens if you use ring of peace on units trapped by spear of bastion?

[@henrydulonhernandez8043]

I dont know but i want to try that 😄

[@piercetheheavens]

If my buddy is going rogue is arms a wise choice for 2s?

[@jmo5954]

Arms Main (2,2k+) here. Before i play that comp id rather only gain rage by stepping on lego for the rest of the exp. But your personal taste might differ

[@_Malvar]

no. arms falls over without a healer. but if arms has a healer its S tier in pvp.

[@vincenzomusella3029]

Go mage easy

[@piercesnyder739]

stuck between rogue and warrior, played warrior for years but i wanted to try something new. I keep seeing good things about warriors but it seems like rogue is the fotm on xpac :S what do you guys think?

[@zepho100]

Warrior is the most fun, in my opinion. Though I have bias from being a warrior main since vanilla.

[@mike4088]

Kelade hates it lol

[@luke2929]

Simple. I am the Hunter.

[@anacronrealz]

I pvp with arm's. I Know is not good dps for pve. But fury is not good for pve?

[@vincenzomusella3029]

No

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

My wife doesn't want me to play Arms b/c she hates chasing me around arenas and BGs LOL

[@rhythmicvibes7916]

Tell her you chased her IRL until she was yours so it's only fair 🤣

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

@@rhythmicvibes7916 LOL fair

[@vincenzomusella3029]

What a dumb perspective

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

@@vincenzomusella3029 I mean she’s not wrong, I tend to yolo in pretty hard in bgs 🤣

[@yaroslavfilippov1276]

Is there any double dps warrior can somewhat play

[@Faxy95]

Turbo 2s, they used to also go good with a mage but we will see about that one soon.

[@robinkamaji5559]

Im main war arms and that kind of video is starting to make me want to play a other class.

[@masacar1193]

Why so?

[@iMemoacebo]

my guild is making me go venthyr :((((... arms warrior with venthyr. is it a good move for raids? ik its not the best for pvp

If your guild is “making you” go something, it’s time to find another guild

[@iMemoacebo]

@ its not easy to leave, man. ive been with these guys since wod. i prefer meeting halfway and trying/testing venthyr for progress raiding only

[@fungiferous404]

Venthyr is still very good option. I'd pick it over Kyrian any day. The higher executes and damage prevented is strong, especially because well, Warrior and all.

[@Supatease]

I think you can get glad as venthyr its huge damage I'd suggest the exploiter legendary instead.

[@iMemoacebo]

@@fungiferous404 yea, im researching and it looks like a solid option as well

[@Ryforge]

Thoughts on War getting a 10% nerf within PVP in the first tuning pass, might happen might not? Wonder how impactful this might be.

[@lemur808]

@supatease help me out! I love the content, been watching for the last few weeks. I’m stuck between ww and arms. Both seem great- do you have an opinion? Do you think one will be more resilient to nerfs?

[@Ares51815]

If you got friends warrior if solo ww but bear in mind monks tend to scale badly so I would still lean towards war as they tend to get stronger and stronger as gear gets better

[@honorevoisin1014]

is fury viable too? :)

[@_Malvar]

not even close sadly

[@honorevoisin1014]

@@_Malvar oh ok, that s very disapointing :( I mma just play rogue/demo so

[@fozgoth]

Fury is never really "viable" in PvP. The way that they want Fury to play will never work well in pvp unless they give it crazy burst like we had in Legion (from Odyn's Fury + CD macroing). Even with all that burst it's not great, but it at least fills some kind of niche.

[@GenericName007]

I wish I was hearing better things about Warrior tank spec, I like to have a tank spec in my back pocket but seems prot is not thought of too kindly at the moment. Not that it's bad, just not really worth it over most other tanks in its current iteration. I don't tend to like to cross my fingers and hope that's one of the specs blizz decides to bless with their attention. I enjoy arms PvP and Fury PvE but I like to have a solid tank spec at hand to avoid long queue times. :)

[@ag0n1an]

Still *the worst* spec for duels/ WPVP...

[@zepho100]

It has been since Vanilla. That doesn’t turn many people off.

[@VISOVNI]

There's no incentive for this sort of PvP besides fun. So the only ones who participate are the strong 1v1 classes just to shit on people.

[@zepho100]

@@VISOVNI or for rogues to gank you at 30% HP

[@Faxy95]

@@zepho100 Not rly, ex glad warr here, we could do really good by ourselves all the way through BUT it required a very high skill cap to do so in a manner that is to your benefit. Most will die under pressure but good warriors would not die often. There's a lot of examples and back prior to legion we could heal a lot more also. As Supa said, it's easy to start arms but hard to master it and if you play it right you are a powerhouse and top tier in PvP of any kind. Just my 2 cents from experience.

[@zepho100]

@@Faxy95 my experience of a warrior is Vanilla through TBC. Was the most fun class to play. I’m going to give Shadowlands a go.

[@stevewalker6340]

Warrior is going to be god tier in pvp. Double melee comps are going to dominate s1 arena

[@mick977]

I've played most of the classes in prepatch (after returning, not having played since WoD) and arms warrior just feels great. I'm partial to my boomkin for PvE, but in PvP warrior is way more fun. Enjoying your videos a lot, you're very easy to listen to.

[@DuoSpear]

One reason why i dont play arms warriors that... there are much better mmorpg / rpg games with better swordsman with action filled gameplay than this dull sword swinging class.

[@blakerroni95]

I just lost to you in a 3s game. Completely star struck

[@Baylo]

anyone in the same boat as me??? I have no clue what to fucking main ahwjfkdhahehfj ..... gg. Thinking MM hunter or feral maybe even dk I have no clue might just go play fortnite

[@driiifter]

Arcane Mage is too good right now not to play, I was lvling a Warrior for Arms though, so my third choice still.

[@Whirrun]

Is arcane good in Shadowlands pvp ?

[@bmcash09]

Because Shadow Priest.

[@Evadooker]

arms warrior pvp main for 6 years, nightfae will be best mark my words. people getting gaslight by kyrian

[@donwooss]

Kyrian is crazy insane for melee cleaves NF puts everyone on stun dr. It sucks.

[@fozgoth]

I don't see how you wouldn't go with Venthyr. Not only does it do more damage but it also has a defensive aspect to it, it's tailor made for Arms.

[@vincenzomusella3029]

@@donwooss he said it’s on its own dr

[@Fintusius]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@Vampembrace]

Spoiler Alert:.................. No, no you should not.

[@DavidD-lz7gu]

Nope - have never played warrior or rogue - hate them.

[@vincenzomusella3029]

@@_Malvar hes talking playstyle obviously you pepega

[@scottfaith9759]

totally biased

[@apointtomake1517]

Spoiler Alert... Arms is dogshit, especially trying to kill Torghast bosses. You bleed like hell, and the damage is just not there. A 200K HP boss, will have you dead before you can get it to 50%.

[@nemeanlioness]

same as always then

[@phunkym8]

pvp focused, YAWN

[@Ohmagawdjr]

Because it sucks for anything other than arenas

[@GoonGamer_]

Not if u want to die to me 90% of the time

[@Stalkingwolf]

Warrior the most common and boring class in a fantasy game ... thats why.

[@Javier-il1xi]

Maybe for you 😊