Should You Main Retribution Paladin in Shadowlands?

[@andrewpaul8732]

Your approach to your character and all the systems in place have to offer is really great. So many youtubers are just reading tool tips. I really appreciate the feedback and perspective you give on what i guess is your favorite toon.

[@mike4088]

I leveled up a ret pally the other day and loved it. It's a lot of fun. It actually feels like you are wielding a two hander and hitting hard.

[@josh14789632]

C'mon man just let us be a fun class for at least a patch. There's no need for this spotlight on pallys for a nerf :(

[@Oplix]

I love how Ret paladins look in SL but I really wish that Blizzard would introduce a completely seperate thematic set of spell animations for every class as something you can grind for. All classes need a second set of thematic spell animations.

[@masacar1193]

So true,those wings of angel looking weird on trolladin

[@Starplaya]

trolladin alone is a crime :D isnt there a Glyph I think for other wings? I have one

[@anthonyvasquez8842]

DUDE DON'T. We already went over this. Everything you touch gets nerfed.

[@mrboomlazer1570]

ToO LaTe!

[@lw-tv2496]

I’m not trying to be negative but I LOVE(D) ret.. Back in the day. SL isn’t making it anything exciting. The auras were already baseline and now they are a gcd and you can only use one, sac doesn’t really help because you’ll be the kill target the majority of the time since pally is still so bubble reliant with it on such a long cd. Still no change or understanding from blizz to bring back long arm of the law. Nerf to wake of ashes holy power generation is just not there. I’ve mained ret for 12 years and there’s nothing really great about it other than you can throw 10 hours of footage into a cool 6 min highlight reel with one off one shots. But that’s just my feedback on SL ret, nothing against your video. ❤️

[@stevecarruthers4240]

You're so right man... ret players didn't want our auras unpruned at all they were already baseline... we wanted shadow, frost and fire auras back. As for PvP ret burst dmg is easily avoidable, if dmg is nerfed because people don't have the skill to cc the pally when they see hammer of reckoning coming down (or dispell it) they deserve to be one shot. Nerfing dmg will leave rets exactly where they were all BFA... immobile and hitting like a wet paper bag outside of cds.

[@faithdimmer4034]

Who here knows they are gonna nerf Ret's burst, it turns to shit, and prot pulls ahead in top tier play because of its utility and control?

[@phugindomas]

Pally won't pull ahead in utility and control. Its mid tier with both of those. Its ahead rn because of dmg. Nerf that and it has almost nothing

[@caleb4015]

It needs to be nerfed. Its absolutely broken rn. In PvP if you don't have a hard immune against Ret you will die 100%

[@guyharvey1487]

only reason to play ret pali shadow priest they flavor of the week classes once they get nerfed people will get bord and find the next high dps toon for the next week

[@noahmullis626]

@@caleb4015 what about PVE they aren’t top in pve not even close so u nerf them in pvp it’s also gonna get nerfed in pve witch will destroy the class if u want to pve

[@Tyelkormoko]

Thanks for the video, but it is so nerve wrecking not knowing what will change in a week after choosing a covenant and going all in on specific legendaries.

[@odinmaveth6224]

I want to main retri, hope they are good in raids. Hope they boost pve damage.

[@monta1lol]

Holy Moley Supatease! I was thinking about Kyrian over Night Fae as well and you made my decision. I have another Paladin I'm gona try Night Fae on but in general I dont feel comfortable with Night Fae and you made Kyrian look great for BGs, Arena and M+ everything I'm aiming for. Thank you very much for the time you spend on beta to show that heavily good content!

[@colin3015]

Trying to main a ret for shadowlands so I’m thankful I found this video!

[@TarlionxD]

Love these ret paladin videos man. keep up the good work

[@OnelastgoTV]

Loving these videos lately, really good info, keep it up Supa!

[@amange2696]

You should add timestamps

[@nickistrauss203]

With the skill that he had, he will not be happy in the raid. One talent is completely useless. The Retri-Pala can provide support, but it doesn't actually use the laying on of hands. There would be the talent with the 4x working of abilities that consume divine power and for this increase the flash of light by 100% and make instant magic more useful. In addition, the magic is not very expensive, if necessary a word of glory will do. But the Retri is not there to heal, but to cause damage. I'm sticking to my skill, which I already used for BfA, you can't go wrong with that. At level 60 I have to see if I have to change anything in the 50 series.

[@Guelicious]

great stuff, thanks for the work you put in! :) could you plz explain why you don't like the Venthyr Ret Palys? i didn't catch that in your video :)

[@dend1]

Question is it still worth if the numbers are nerfed. If no, then no

[@Sarge_72]

All the choices that have to be made are great for toon development - the work a player has to put in to make it all happen gets wasted if they Nerf any spec too much however. Hopefully there will be a reset/refund mechanic in place for when the nerfs come ...

[@Rizzardkingasta]

Ight yea you’re definitely trying to get ret nerfed confirmed xD

[@matthewjohnson3524]

And it worked they just got nerfed

[@agatha.passani]

mages are fine... they should nerf hunters, mages being nerfed for weeks in a row

[@rickdiculous5655]

@@agatha.passani nerf mages to the ground!

[@TheFallingFlamingo]

@@agatha.passani How tf are mages fine? They need a nerf like I need an attitude adjustment. Fuck you.

[@LeJulles]

Would it not be cool as ret to gave night fae buffs in general as cool game buff mechanic? Is it fun?

[@calebhendo]

as someone who still wants to play ret is this guide still relevant after ret nerfs and pelegos nerfs? torn on what covenant i should look into for pvp.

[@Starplaya]

no, find a newer one, some things have changed , or spam supatease to release an updated version for ret

[@calebhendo]

@@Starplaya I just went Night Fae and living my best life lol

[@sauroncro]

The answer is simple. If you are casual palyer yes sure, paladin is fun to play. But if you are competitive pve palyer and want to go m+, dont even try to go with retribution cause he cant keep up with top tier dps.

[@reaperoes9545]

As someone who has played ret only since i started playing wow in mists ima say that ret is an awesome and fun class. However mobility has been needed for so long and ive grown tired of having to use this shitty horse against basically any ranged class. Even most melee classes can just outmaneuver our class and theres no outplay in alot of instances. If you want to play ret strictly for pve youll have a great time in mythic + and certain cleave raid fights , but i wish the 35 talent tree would replace unbreakable spirit and eye for an eye with mobility abilities. Like a falling sword from diablo , or a tyreal charged ult from heroes of the storm. This would make it way more fun to swap off targets and not feel like shit for getting off the main target. It would also solve their problem in pvp, but as it stands even with cool new abilities like final reckoning i feel my love for the class dull. From boring legendaries to uninspired covenent abilities (im talking to you vanquishers hammer (maldraxxus)). I saw a legendary for hunter that makes flare light your oil trap on fire and i thought man that is just too fucking cool even if its bad. I want stuff like that.

[@reaperoes9545]

legion ret was also my favorite version, i loved having a dot on wake of ashes and ashbringers auto break cc hidden passive was sick.

[@berndschwaiger6194]

many thanks for the great explanation. i love these movies. now I'm super insecure meanwhile have paladin and hunter at lvl 50 lvl. I have a lot of fun with both of them. (just not that much to play both :)) what makes more sense for shadowlands? what is more solid. with a focus on mytic + and pvp. is there a recommendation for this? (I am absolutely not a professional)

[@sametkucukcolak4157]

I ll go with my ret but cant choose the race. I wanna be a zandalari but their barefoot and combat animations so suck. I am a tauren now

[@mariannovobilsky644]

Hey there , like your videos. I just wana know your opinion if classes are tied to specific covenant to be playable in arena. I realy don like the idea to be pushed to play certain covenant . Thx keep up the great work .

[@Pilek01]

i hope Ret is for a while good in Shadowlands. We were almost on the bottom of the dps rankings for more than a year now. When was the last time Ret was in the top 5 dps???

[@danielleach1565]

Videos are great! Keep up the good work. Any thoughts on best covenant for a hybrid paladin? I will be actively playing all 3 specs in SL, Night Fae maybe? Like the possibilities with that and wanting to push arena this expansion

[@edbruce5046]

Keep up the great work Sup love the content keep the info coming...... if this your alt what is your main?.

[@seanspecie]

These videos have been super helpful to watch. Returning player. Haven’t played much since BC. Been having fun leveling a prot pally since I have short lengths of time to play. What should I do for gear if I can only play in bursts of 30 mins at a time randomly?

[@Supatease]

Likely m+ keys or 2v2 arena

[@adomingues00]

I realy like your content, just wanted to see some actual gameplay about the abilities you are talking about while you talk about stuff. Preferably in-dungeon or in-pvp, but at least on dummies would go a long way.

[@kingofnamek]

Do you think I'd still see success as Venthyr Prot? Divine Toll seems good and fub, but my heart is with Venthyr.

[@marinjaverzat8729]

As long as you're not a pro player trying to push +30 key there should be no problem.

[@brandonboss6868]

I personally don't like how slow ret paladins are now. Arms is the slow, heavy hitter. I'm not sure why they want to make ret as such. Yes, with good RNG it can be fast. But I have the worst RNG ever.

[@Smolder09]

Do you think you'll see ret played in the awc or mdi at all?

[@ziggs123]

If they stay like this it might be the most played spec

[@stevecarruthers4240]

NO... Dmg is easily avoidable or dispellable... People at 1700+ should have no problems countering them in arena once they get a hand on how to.

[@teeorr7880]

shoutout to the hyperspeed listening peeps

[@JonnieGrooms]

I switched from Mage to Rogue for SL looks like my ret pally will be my back up

[@takatakiful]

I’ll switch from rogue to mage and have ret as back up 🙃

[@chuff008]

Great Video.

[@brettkelley1574]

That's gonna be a no from Blizzard

[@TheSaltiePlays]

Hey supa can we get a refreshed frost mage one bud

[@modernpoet3997]

Cara is gonna have a good time in shadowlands lol.

[@ArronRatliff]

I've had a Ret Paladin as my main since vanilla. There is nothing i am looking forward to for the spec in this expansion. I dont pvp or do mythics or raid any more. WotLK broke me of wanting to raid or join a guild. I only do dungeons if i absolutely have to to finish a quest chain. Otherwise i avoid group content like its a sexually transmitted disease. BFA was fun for casual solo players we could get stuff done an still have fun. Other than parts of Torgast shadowlands looks like its going to be the exact opposite of that. It looks like its gonna be a long slow grind to get things done. Sigh.

[@benjaminbryant973]

ez answer..if ur not playing rogue in shadowlands pvp there is no point in playing.....

[@MR.Gramkow]

iam gonna main ret, so blz goooood make a guide if they gonna nerf or buff the soulbinds or legendary ex. Love the vid :)

[@betahumanx]

With the Night Fae base ability youre not such a wheelchair so yeah, Retribution much be more interesting.

[@Tangakkai]

Pssst, not too loud or you'll nerf us!

[@cschrsore]

Wanna try this build :-)

[@ultra2019]

Nice.

[@vincenthammons6705]

I am going prot paladin its more fun imo with instant invites

[@patrickgrun4562]

Supa playing Tank in PvP for decades and giving everyone cancer in the Community. He is getting laughed at

[@Lyachos]

Feral next please!

[@GTJW22409]

Now remake this video please with update, and speak on raiding please

[@thedrunkmanga4610]

Please do frost mage

[@ruimteschipYT]

good evening :)

[@zomgpeoplestolemname]

Except Ret is still just a worse version of what it was from Wrath-WoD

[@bullseye608]

Ret has the worst dps rotation of any class in the game imo. It's just spamming 3 single target generators on cooldown, and then spending the power on a single target finisher or an aoe finisher. Cleave feels bad, the cooldowns feel bad, and it just seems like half of the rotation is missing. Definitely needs a rework.

[@Kikkanone]

I hope they nerf sentence and final reckoning so they can actually buff sustained. This burst is definitely gonna get nerfed

[@ign0bilium]

No

[@Damingo54]

Arms warrior pve is going to be god awful. Better stay away boys

[@bi0lizard1]

Main a RET pally if think being in a wheelchair is ‘fun’.

[@hobbes3380]

Answer: No.

[@rodrigofreitas1316]

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