Super 32 qualifier- Brooke’s 3rd place match

[@shadboy]

Tuff match.

[@jameshamilton1135]

There are people commenting about girl versus boy....that's two girls wrestling

[@shadboy]

Hello-wrestler in RED is a GIRL--anyhow is ISRAEL women fight along side the men--So maybe my point is in the usa we need to Keep our boys/men TOUGH period end of sentence *****--& there are some girls/women that are VERY STRONG/TOUGH also.

[@tedhicks5431]

That was a girl in red?

[@genghiskhan7041]

They have Super 32 qualifiers?? I thought it was just a top notch invitational open to anybody.

[@TheEzzieboy]

If that was a boy in the red, he needs to move away. His life will be hell. If that is a girl, nice match.

[@Angrypokagon]

Being humiliated by a girl is not the experience any boy wants to have in their childhood. That is why its better to forfeit.

[@keegangold9765]

Or change society so that women are seen as valuable enough to lose to. The whole “beat by a girl” thing is exactly the issue. That and the idea that because you don’t want to lose to a female, you would deny them the same experiences you get as a wrestler is just selfish.

[@Angrypokagon]

@keegangold9765 it's not that simple to use the "equality" card here. Males are typically stronger than females, which is why many sports have men's and women's divisions. A lot of girl wrestlers are forced to compete against boys because there are often not enough girls competing to create a girls wrestling team. Men are predominantly protectors of women. This is why it's humiliation to lose to a girl in a sport based on physical strength.

[@keegangold9765]

@@Angrypokagon you’re putting culture above biology. Our current science shows we have vastly underestimated women throughout time. Women, for example, were once told (in the 60s and 70s!) that they couldn’t run. Now women dominate in ultra-endurance sports. What science told us is continually being disproven with new science. Current science stands at this: pound for pound muscle (male or female) acts pretty much exactly the same. Men’s muscle has more fast twitch (so they can sprint better). Women’s muscle has more long twitch (so they have raw strength). But put two people with the same muscle mass together and they’ll be similar. Your culture has told you women cannot be strong and it was wrong. Your culture told you men protect women, but in my experience as a woman, I’ve saved my past boyfriends and husband more than they ever saved me, lol. I’m usually the calm on in a situation of chaos. Why? Because i wasn’t raised to think that “men are protectors.” If we keep raising girls to think that they can’t do things guess what? They will continue to meet your low expectations.

[@ZenithalPoint]

​@@keegangold9765 Actually, you are the one who put your wrong personal belief(="culture") over proven basic human biology, not him. I'm not even sure what you are referring to by "ultra-endurance sports" because every endurance-related sports (or, any physical sport for that matter that is not traditionally accepted as women's field, or gender neutral) in world games are literally dominated by male, not female, like swimming, marathons, tri, holding breath, etc etc. And when a transgender female(born male) enters a competition with females they almost always take the winner-prizes so easily, that makes female athletes complain about how they are being allowed in the female competition. That pretty much tells all about it by itself. So what is this ultra-endurance sport that is dominated by women? I am genuinely interested in it so tell me about it. Your pound/muscle logic(I'm not even sure if that is right or not but let's just say it is right) is irrelevant in the subject here also because what really makes male stronger than female is how their hormones work, not about having a "better muscle" Male hormones inherently promote muscle growth and maintain it far better than females, while female hormones actually act antagonistic toward muscle growth and actively demote its development. That is why it is usually considered an utter joke to competing trained adult individuals of the opposite gender because while male is already about 30% stronger than female by default, if they both start to work out their muscle, the difference becomes so severe if they are adult(or, just past adolescence in most case). Another big problem with your "pound for pound muscle" logic is your lack of understanding of male being larger and heavier than female as a gender-specific perk of male. In every corner of the world, males are about 13% taller and 20% heavier than females in general. You can literally check that right away from any demo STR, like WFB or ES. That is also a power of male hormones(and also the reason why female bodybuilder uses male hormone drug), because much of androgen is metabolic in nature, which in effect, makes the body bigger. So in truth, if you really want to put "same tier of boy and girl" in competing, 120 lb girls will be fighting against 144 lb boy, NOT 120 lb. If you know why there are weight classes in the sports game, you will know what that means. As for the "protector" thing, there are many studies on various societies (especially on native tribes of Africa and aboriginal people of South Asia) available that shine a light on why males are protectors of female, not the other way around. I'll give you a little spoiler: If any society makes female a fighter instead of male, that is literal suicide on so many levels for that society, and that includes their lack of physical prowess as one of the reasons. That can be interpreted as "if a normal male assaults a normal female, it takes another male to save the female", in modern countries which rightfully makes males "protector".

[@ZenithalPoint]

@@keegangold9765 I would like to address a lengthy comment about how it is a "personal computer" movement that makes the illusion of "female can be equal with a male in the physical area", NOT a "new science", but youtube really hates such comment and blind it in instance so I'll just pass on that here. I'll just add some notes for the record. 1. You portrayed yourself as a strong and capable woman. While nobody would believe what a random person on youtube/internet saying as a truth without proof, I'll give you that I have no reason to NOT believe you on that either. There are indeed such capable women, but that just means you are uncommon individuals, not making it a "normal". General rules are as I said in the previous comments and that is the fact, not hypothetical subject. 2. I actually agree with what you said in the very first comment. Girl fighters at this age are indeed legit-enough competitors for boy and they shouldn't be ashamed when defeated by girl. But at the same time, you also have to admit that there is almost always unjust pressure on the boy's shoulder who fights against girl, which is often described by boy themselves as a "lose-lose" situation. You don't even need to go far to confirm that. Just look at the videos of girls winning over boys and listen closely to how spectators react to the match. This wrong belief about "males should be stronger than females at all times, no matter what" will not go away that easily, and that's probably what OP is trying to say.