It would be great if this format could be brought back. It would be so cool to shoot something and project the film with sound after it was developed.
@SonofFrenzi2 жыл бұрын
Ah - Super 8 sound and being able to dub extra audio on the 2nd stripe - I remember it well and shot quite a lot of Super 8 sound from 82-85. Great medium.
@jeffreysnow2640 Жыл бұрын
While I was filming on super silent film, I recorded the sound on cassette tape, sent the film out to be sound striped, I think it was 3 cents a foot. Then I would hook the cassette player up to the movie projector and sync the sound up. I was doing this at 15 years old
@atariboy772 жыл бұрын
I Just Ordered a Sankyo Sound 700 Projector on ebay. I cannot wait to project my Tom and Jerry Films and set up my own little vintage home cinema.
@davidperalta-torres33712 жыл бұрын
I remember buying some of the last Super 8 sound cartridges around 2001 from an obscure online camera shop in Georgia and using it on my Minolta sound camera. I wish it was still around
@animaToy2 жыл бұрын
What actually makes me crazy is Fujica ZS400, single8 camera with ability to record sound optically. I wish I could get one of those
@danielmoljr40902 жыл бұрын
I would love to see it make a comeback. Do you think Kodak would start it back if enough people wrote and showed interest?
@FilmPhotographyProject2 жыл бұрын
I don't. Kodak still hasn't introduced their "all new" Super 8 camera - www.kodak.com/en/motion/page/super-8-camera - it's been many years since the announce.
@danielmoljr40902 жыл бұрын
@@FilmPhotographyProject Now I remember, that was a long time ago. I wonder what happened? I am just grateful they are still making motion picture film.
@1987VCRProductions2 жыл бұрын
@@danielmoljr4090 All I know is that the expected price of that camera has been increasing to the point where I’d say “why bother?”
@mumiemonstret5 күн бұрын
3:29 Give the VFX guy a raise and the SFX guy the boot... 😄 I saw a video on how this amazing VFX was done. Unfortunately this trick is unavailable in modern filmmaking...
@proudtobeautistic9 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly the sound super 8 cartridges remained in production until 1997 or 1998.
@nicholassheffo5723 Жыл бұрын
Michael, Though no new Super 8 sound cartridges are available to buy, many unopened ones do turn up and sometimes for too much money. Kodachrome 40 (though you cannot get color developing for it anymore) and Ektachrome 160 are the most common, along with 7242 (all have fading issues) and 7244 Supermatic (hard to get results from age) color films, all issued in 50ft sound cartridges and all but the 160 issued in 200ft cartridges for special cameras that can handle them. Those 200ft cartridges always land up in bidding wars. Add Sakurachrome 40 and 160 and those are all the color Super 8 films that use the older chemicals no longer made. Fortunately, Agfa made sound cartridges that use current E6 chemicals under the Moviechrome name and are better to try out if you can get them cheap. The 1970s cartridges use their own older chemicals and the Moviechrome from 1980 to about 1986 with the thin font labels tend to have yellow calcium and mold, so try for later ones. Overseas, Perutz did relabeled Agfa sound cartridges until Agfa stopped making them outright, Revue did them with 3M/Ferrania (our of production chemistry) & Agfa film and Porst did sound cartridges using Sakura film to 1983, the Agfa until 1990. Finally, some cartridges were made for silent cartridges with magnetic striping so you could add sound later when the film came back from lab, like Agfa Super 8 PLUS (older 1970s developers), Revuechrome Ton (aka tone, meaning sound) and Revue Superchrome striped films. Though the tracks can warp, I have hardly ever seen any cases where the magnetic oxide was flaking off of a Super 8 film of any kind for whatever reasons.
@socialist01892 жыл бұрын
You can still do post sound stripe though so it's not completely dead. There's also a lot of old expired sound film that you can use to play with.
@FilmPhotographyProject2 жыл бұрын
The develop process for "old new stock" of Ektachrome 160 Type G or A no longer exists. Only one lab (Spectra in the US) will process it (and its cost prohibitive).
@socialist01892 жыл бұрын
@@FilmPhotographyProject, I know that but I personally think it's worth it for sound film.
@42ndStreetMatthew Жыл бұрын
Would love to see your student films, Michael!
@FilmPhotographyProject Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKXEi4R8iJaIoqs Thanks for asking - Mike
@jeffreysnow26402 жыл бұрын
You were also able to shoot silent super 8mm film and send it out to have sound stripes put on the film. I used to record the sound on a cassette tape recorder and then sync it up and record it onto the film with my projector. I was doing this at 15 years old in 1979 :)
@socialist01892 жыл бұрын
You can still do so. There's fipra, ffr film, andec film and a place in Italy that do post sound striping. You can even do it yourself with for example a bolex weberling sound striper.
@Vahmrick60 Жыл бұрын
I have also found that the best projectors for lower cost were the Elmo, Eumig and Bauer lines, unless you can afford something like the Beaulieu 708 EL. Stay away from the Kodak models, the inside parts are cheap neoprene. I've had a few Chinon projectors, they're OK, but they have cheap parts that wear quickly too. If you're into this stuff, it pays to either be a bit of a tech, or know someone who is. You might try checking around the cinemas and see if there are any old projectionist techs still living that like to tinker with this stuff.
@timothylarson35582 жыл бұрын
Very cool, Mike! I have a Super sound camera in a drawer right behind me!
@atariboy772 жыл бұрын
Hey, I was just wondering if you can show American (NTSC) films on a European (PAL) projector and vice versa? I'm just looking into buying a rare print of a film from America and I was thinking someone might know. Thanks
@FilmPhotographyProject2 жыл бұрын
NTSC, PAL and SECAM are ntsc video format standards only. Does not apply film prints.
@atariboy772 жыл бұрын
@@FilmPhotographyProject Thank you! I thought as such, just wanted to make sure before buying that print
@kelleebolden79362 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike do you remember all of the Super 8 sound full length features you could order from Blackhawk Films?
@FilmPhotographyProject2 жыл бұрын
I sure do! I personally own a full length copt of GREASE in Super 8 sound! - Mike
@jeffreysnow26402 жыл бұрын
BlackHawk Films were great !!! Along with Castle/Universal 8 and Ken Films. I have hundreds of these !!!
@kelleebolden79362 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreysnow2640 That's awesome!!
@socialist01892 жыл бұрын
Some people have thought over the years to bring back super8 sound film. One more recent example with success was revelado reviseble in Spain with carosound in super8 and single8 sound carts. But the whole thing died with the Ektachrome apocalypse back in 2013 and the steep price (70 euro including development back in 2011/2012). Still some people have plans to bring it back but because of various reasons plans always never go further than the drawing board.
@FilmPhotographyProject2 жыл бұрын
It's cheaper and easier to shoot fresh Super 8, record wild sound on your phone and edit digitally. Short video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIiYfZSohr1rsLc
@socialist01892 жыл бұрын
@@FilmPhotographyProject, I do wild sync and add sound to my movies after getting the edited version sound striped. But from time to time I also throw some expired sound film in.
@aengusmacnaughton13752 жыл бұрын
Mike!!! What date/volume of Famous Monsters magazine had you in it???? I need to find it and buy it before the price skyrockets!!!!
@FilmPhotographyProject2 жыл бұрын
FM #116 1975 - the year of the BIG Famous Monsters Con in NYC!
@aengusmacnaughton13752 жыл бұрын
@@FilmPhotographyProject AHA! Just found a bunch on eBay and ordered a copy for $300!!!! 😃 Just kidding about the price. Cool!
@Vahmrick60 Жыл бұрын
The XXX lesbian short looks intriguing. One thing I strongly recommend if you want to project super 8 films in a traditional projector. Replace the incandescent lamp house with an LED fixture. The old incandescent lamps can be dangerous and they are very expensive these days to replace. Also, invest in film cleaner, a good, soft cleaning cloth, a small set of brushes and canned air. Obviously, you want to bring the film projectors out on special nights. They're not for everyday use because each showing adds wear on the film, every tiny piece of dust and dirt is a potential scratch. There is a good reason why this form of showing movies went obsolete. Storage conditions are key for both picture and sound. Colour dyes fade, it's hard to find prints that haven't gone magenta and those mag stripes are subject to all kinds of damage that happens over time from oxide particles dropping off to magnetic fields around stereo speakers and radio towers wiping out part or all of a reel's soundtrack.
@aengusmacnaughton13752 жыл бұрын
I would *PAY* to have you add sound effects and sound bites to lots of modern films and TV shows! Can you imagine Raiders Of The Lost Ark with patented Raso-Sound?!?!?!?!
@RobMoses2 жыл бұрын
Another good video.
@fredfunk40492 ай бұрын
Have a Chinton super 8 projector. And working. Sound.
@Steaphany Жыл бұрын
I have several animated shorts and movie digests, Star Wars & Close Encounters, that have sound
@bobratynski93462 жыл бұрын
I did a lot of super 8 stuff, including sound.....still have my old Elmo sound projector.....quite a few people I knew worked in super 8 before doing 16mm, and sone actually preferred super 8.....the 200 ft film cartridges never quite worked well for me---too much jamming.
@RedStarRogue Жыл бұрын
I have an 18 minute reel of The Dirty Dozen on super 8 with the magnetic soundtrack. Would you guys be legally allowed to scan that? lol
@FilmPhotographyProject Жыл бұрын
Hi Tyson. Yes. (As long as its for your private use.) FPP scanning services - filmphotographystore.com/collections/fpp-scanning-services/products/film-scanning-services-super-8-regular-8mm
@RedStarRogue Жыл бұрын
@@FilmPhotographyProject Ok thanks
@user-ff6pq1eg8x5 ай бұрын
A mistake to stop making sound film. Bring sound film back.
@bnrynlds2 жыл бұрын
Hey Michael, do you also scan 16mm sound film?
@FilmPhotographyProject2 жыл бұрын
We sure do! Magnetic or Optical track! filmphotographystore.com/collections/fpp-scanning-services/products/film-scanning-services-16mm-100-ft-rolls
@linkinthedescription1132 жыл бұрын
Hey mike has the ffp ever considered bringing back super 8 sound film like you have reintroducing regular 8 film? Cheers mate
@FilmPhotographyProject2 жыл бұрын
We're focused on Regular 8mm and 16mm. Pro 8 our of Burbank focuses on Super 8 and special editions (like Double-X Super 8). Sadly, with a much more narrow option of sound cameras, I doubt that NEW Super 8 sound film is a viable option.
@linkinthedescription1132 жыл бұрын
@@FilmPhotographyProject very fair point, I was lucky enough to come by an Elmo sound. A man can only dream Kodak releases their super 8 camera and the market becomes competitive again for super 8.
@bestmoviesever12 жыл бұрын
@@FilmPhotographyProject I would buy it if it were available.