Super Amy: Let The Girl Glow

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Game Apologist

Game Apologist

10 ай бұрын

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Amy Rose has been overlooked for a long time in the Sonic series, but now she finally is playable in the classic games! ...but do they let her go super? We discuss why a silly little glow matters so much.
Props to @ChannelPup for editing the video. You can go to his channel to blame him for the milk.

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@GameApologist
@GameApologist 10 ай бұрын
I AM AWARE THEY NEVER SAY HYPER IN THE GAME! That was a big woops on my part! I'll talk about it in an Origins Plus video!
@sandudelcea6707
@sandudelcea6707 10 ай бұрын
They don't say ANYTHING in the those classic games ! It's all in the manuals and HUD !
@EliteOcto
@EliteOcto 10 ай бұрын
@@sandudelcea6707 you know what he meant bro.
@sandudelcea6707
@sandudelcea6707 10 ай бұрын
@@EliteOcto actually i don't.
@EliteOcto
@EliteOcto 10 ай бұрын
@@sandudelcea6707 When you get all the super emeralds its typically caption with "(Character) can now turn into Hyper (Character)" it doesn't say that with amy
@sandudelcea6707
@sandudelcea6707 10 ай бұрын
@@EliteOcto do the hyper emeralds still show up ?
@SqueakerBunny
@SqueakerBunny 10 ай бұрын
The hammer multiplication of Hyper Amy reminds me of how her hammer worked on Sonic X, where she could just summon a new one on her hand at will.
@rainpooper7088
@rainpooper7088 10 ай бұрын
That was probably my favorite joke in that whole show.
@Planag7
@Planag7 10 ай бұрын
Heck yeah lol "more hammers than a hardware store!"
@tylermorrison1363
@tylermorrison1363 10 ай бұрын
She would make the Hammer Bros from Mario jealous.
@joechristo2
@joechristo2 10 ай бұрын
it’s called hammer space, look it up
@LimaBr_
@LimaBr_ 10 ай бұрын
Still love that moment even today
@MrNeedleM0use
@MrNeedleM0use 10 ай бұрын
I’m so happy to see that SEGA no longer has that stupid mandate about only male hedgehogs being able to go super. Maybe Amy will even go super in Superstars too!
@epicgamer-ny4fj
@epicgamer-ny4fj 10 ай бұрын
Or tails! Give the fox a bone
@Gerik75
@Gerik75 10 ай бұрын
It look like this mandate only matter for the Modern setting, not the Classic because Tails and Knuckles can have super form there and only have a yellow shield in Sonic Heroes.
@Milonoto
@Milonoto 10 ай бұрын
​@@Gerik75Sonic Frontiers made Super Knuckles Canon.
@maverick12070
@maverick12070 10 ай бұрын
Still miss the golden glow but I know thats a very small nitpick xD
@Gerik75
@Gerik75 10 ай бұрын
@@Milonoto It would only matter for me if we saw it, not just says it in a dialogue who can be invented from the english script.
@AngelPerez-tu1nk
@AngelPerez-tu1nk 10 ай бұрын
To see Amy get this bloom in popularity, attention and respect makes me happy beyond words. Our little rose deserves it and I hope it only gets better from here. PS: Quick detour but personally I could have called her Super form "Radiant Rose".
@supermariohack3218
@supermariohack3218 10 ай бұрын
Would be odd if Amy's super form had it's own prefix considering transformations like that only get a different prefix, when they're achived with something other than the Chaos Emeralds like Burning Blaze or Darkspine Sonic.
@amandaslough125
@amandaslough125 10 ай бұрын
@@supermariohack3218 Doesn't mean she can't get an alternate "Radiant Rose" down the line.
@AngelPerez-tu1nk
@AngelPerez-tu1nk 10 ай бұрын
@@supermariohack3218 Ok point taken.
@crimsonzone8984
@crimsonzone8984 10 ай бұрын
@@supermariohack3218 what if it's something that doesn't require collecting any items?
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
Well ain't that just an awesome concept!!!
@WildSableye
@WildSableye 10 ай бұрын
Amy has a character in the Adventure Games! She's kind and empathetic, but impulsive and gets in way over her head. She loves deeply, but sometimes too deeply, which is where her infatuation for Sonic turns obsessive. But in scenarios like protecting Birdie, its her greatest asset. She likes shopping, because she cares about her fashion. She has a life outside of adventuring unlike Sonic & co., having her own place of which she's seen getting groceries for in the first minute of the game - it's a unique aspect to her that no other character shares. She's a city girl, not hunkered in a workshop, stuck on a floating island, or aimlessly exploring the world. But as she states in her opening, she does long for that adventure. It's part of why she loves Sonic so much - he can give her excitement. She has a snippy side! She gets angry when Sonic doesn't listen to her. And at the badniks throughout the game. It's a part of her emotional nature. And again, it's not solely a flaw. Her sticking up for Gamma is an example of that. And that was enough to get Sonic to not hurt him. I think dismissing her as having "no personality" isn't really fair. Especially when you praise Fleetway Amy who, let's face it, has very little going on in terms of distinction. She's a "nice, level-headed" Sonic, and that's it. Honestly I think the reason people do like Fleetway Amy more is because...she's not feminine. I do feel like a lot of people mistake "tomboy" for "complex female character". When Amy is plenty complex! As complex as any of the characters in the Adventure era. She just leans toward the feminine side. And that's okay.
@Sfyft
@Sfyft 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention that she was also the most broken character in the SA2 Battle multiplayer.
@kyloren1420
@kyloren1420 10 ай бұрын
Completely agreed. ppl don't seem to really understand her at all & then go on to call SEGA of japan as "sexist" wit no grounds for such a claim. Nobody seems to actually think bout Y these R the way they R
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
Which you can say that Classic Amy is pretty bland, like it seems like they are two different characters.
@stratospherica
@stratospherica 10 ай бұрын
I think you've hit on something really important, which is that Amy is an unapologetically feminine character both in appearance and exhibiting typically feminine traits, but still gets to play the hero, play the same game as the boys and keep them on their toes, and that's why I love her as a character and why I want her to be a playable character in the core cast. Little girls (and indeed, little boys too!) deserve to know that femininity isn't weakness, nor is it inferior to masculinity, and that feminine people can be strong and resilient and heroic the same way masculine people can. Having said that I also do like Fleetway Amy, and I like plenty of tomboy characters too, but they're so often compared favourably to the "vapid" and "weak" feminine character.
@fayev1360
@fayev1360 10 ай бұрын
That part of the video was mostly addressing variations on classic amy tho? Like he goes through archie and fleetway classic amy
@NightFuryLover31
@NightFuryLover31 10 ай бұрын
This truly is the year of Amy! Being playable in three games, her getting her own anniversary issue in the fall, and even her fortune cards are getting printed! She's finally getting the recognition she deserves! I think the comics have been doing her some good justice in the last few years, but it's great that other forms of media are as well.
@murderman7265
@murderman7265 10 ай бұрын
It's the same with Peach and Daisy too. Nintendo and Sega finally giving their girls the attention they deserve.
@Couch_Banana
@Couch_Banana 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget TMOSTH being all about her birthday party.
@CottageDreams23
@CottageDreams23 4 ай бұрын
Finally they treating her character with respect!
@pancakericeP
@pancakericeP 10 ай бұрын
I think amy should’ve had that golden glow the other hedgehogs have. If not like a rose-gold that leans more toward gold, since it falls in line with the hedgehogs having different shades of gold.
@lightmaker5648
@lightmaker5648 10 ай бұрын
Regretably only 'Adult Male Headgehogs' get the true golden glow that doesn't simply flash in and out.
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
That actually would've been nice to see! Unfortunately (I don't know how true this is), it seems as if that golden glow is only for the chosen ones!
@artistanthony1007
@artistanthony1007 10 ай бұрын
She doesn't need Gold, she just needs a different coloration because Super Knuckles looks exactly like her.
@mistermann4163
@mistermann4163 10 ай бұрын
Every time I hear about this I'm just reminded that Blaze exists given that she has the Sol Emeralds which she can utilize to have a super form of her own on top of her fire abilities. And if we look at the movies version she would turn Super Emerald like Eggman that seems to have no difference to Super Hedgehog mode aside from the Master Emerald giving anyone access to that reality warping power.
@meggubravo8373
@meggubravo8373 10 ай бұрын
​@@lightmaker5648Wow . So the powerful Chaos Emeralds are sexist then
@haonneogip4740
@haonneogip4740 10 ай бұрын
The hammer tossing ability is actually a reference to Sonic the Fighters: When she activates her Hyper mode, her Hammer Throw attack gets upgraded so that she throws a whole bunch in rapid succession instead of just one.
@PikangsFutaba
@PikangsFutaba 10 ай бұрын
It can destroy breakable walls that are NOT involving Knuckles' route, and also makes a certain Death Egg Zone boss a joke as you can ignore the gimmick of the fight with that move.
@GatorOne-in7hk
@GatorOne-in7hk 10 ай бұрын
@@PikangsFutaba Oh my gosh, REALLY?! Dude I freaking hate Death Ball, Amy is now my favorite character to play as by a long shot.
@greenknight9000
@greenknight9000 10 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD SO IT'S A PUN??? THAT'S AMAZING
@MattAnd
@MattAnd 10 ай бұрын
I’m going to be honest, I think the outcry against the Sonic friends is what truly caused the dip in the franchise’s quality (there were other factors but please hear me out) All Sonic games kept having the problem of “Sonic games don’t last long enough, we need to add some gimmick to stretch out game time” (Unleased) or that didn’t happen and games were really short (Colours) - which always confused me because they already had the solution of other characters! They didn’t even have to come up with new move sets. But because some people thought the friends were the cause of problems rather than a symptom, they all get removed. It’s a shame really
@lynxfresh5214
@lynxfresh5214 10 ай бұрын
Ditto!
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
Same! And it peeves me off that SEGA decided to market for the wrong crowd when they can just take the gameplay of Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) to expand and improve upon it, not drop it in the void.
@moosesues8887
@moosesues8887 10 ай бұрын
@@mazkeraid4039but it’s sonic 06
@Blanktester685
@Blanktester685 10 ай бұрын
Which could have been good had they executed the ideas better.
@_G.C
@_G.C 10 ай бұрын
People just saw games like sonic heroes and 06 and made them out to be the be all end all of the series, where if you feature more than one character at a time you would end up complicating everything (even though it didn't). I don't even think sonic is a series you can overcomplicate to begin with since all it entails is just "guy runs fast, saves the day" and you can just use that however you want, with whoever you want.
@livliveart
@livliveart 9 ай бұрын
Amy means so much to me. A girly girl who is capable and heroic... These aren't mutually-exclusive, but femininity is often looked down upon in that way. Amy is a reminder that, well, heroes can wear skirts, y’know? I appreciate that more than I can express. ❤
@marceljankowski5469
@marceljankowski5469 10 ай бұрын
The hammer drop dash thing for Amy kind of fits her personality. Because she always wants to keep up with Sonic she has to develop some similar abilities.
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
You make a pretty good point there!
@marceljankowski5469
@marceljankowski5469 10 ай бұрын
@@anricquet thank you.
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
@@marceljankowski5469 ... Absolutely!... Awesome observation!!!
@greenknight9000
@greenknight9000 10 ай бұрын
I...actually like that! It actually makes me appreciate the move a little more
@RadikAlice
@RadikAlice 10 ай бұрын
That "Leaning into the pink of all of it. She's a little girl, and that's okay!" means a lot more than you think Honestly, I think her evolution isn't just about her, but a microcosm of how female characters in games are starting to given the respect they deserve. As biased as it is, I'd say she's the face of it
@parnash
@parnash 10 ай бұрын
Okay, but Amy's Hammer Drop Dash animation is REALLY CUTE.
@Magicghost23
@Magicghost23 10 ай бұрын
It’s hammer time,
@DLOFT002
@DLOFT002 10 ай бұрын
WHY THE HELL DID I NOT THINK OF THAT JOKE!?
@littleguystar
@littleguystar 10 ай бұрын
The only thing I’m disappointed about is that she didn’t get a type of yellow to go along the rest of the hedgehogs. Glad she has a Super form in the first place though
@The1andonlysharpshooter
@The1andonlysharpshooter 10 ай бұрын
Damn im on the complete opposite side. I was stoked seeing hers as unique and fit her colour pallet and style a lot to me. Yellow would be too clashy in my opinion (both in modern and class designs)
@keelanbarron928
@keelanbarron928 10 ай бұрын
Ehh, having her be yellow would be weird.
@Vegetafan756
@Vegetafan756 10 ай бұрын
i really dislike it when all that changes about them is that they glow slightly… Super Sonic is so iconic and unique (hides a picture of Super Saiyan Goku behind my back), and it’s a real bummer when all that changes about a character is their brightness. Knuckles at least turns pink in Super/Hyper Tails is already yellow, not much you can do there, but when he’s in Hyper (yes, Origins makes it so that Tails now can use the Chaos Emeralds, meaning we now have Hyper Tails) he gets the flickies. same with mighty, ray, and Amy. It doesn’t feel like they gained their own Super/Hyper forms, they just are using the Emeralds as a battery. Like pseudo super saiyan, in a way. The worst part is that only Super Sonic ever hovers or flies in their normal animations. Everyone else gets a reskin, and Sonic literally flies. It feels like a lot more effort went into designing Super Sonic than any other classic Super character.
@mayconlcruz
@mayconlcruz 10 ай бұрын
I mean, the fact that Sonic is the only one to change color in his super form comes from technical limitations of Mega Grive/Genesis, and the second character to change color in a transformation was Shadow in Sonic Adventure 2. But it really needs more personalized transformations for the rest of the cast.
@xxsegaxx
@xxsegaxx 10 ай бұрын
I feel like all hedgehogs should canonically get golden fur I mean... Why should only the male hedgehogs get it?Sonic gets it,Shadow,Silver they all get it so why not the females damn it
@TapDat52K
@TapDat52K 10 ай бұрын
EDIT: Amy Rose matters cause she is the OG Sonic fan before the internet unleashed their obsession with Sonic. She has grown SOO much into the hammer wielding ally that has learned to stand on her own 2 feet.
@dragondelsur5156
@dragondelsur5156 10 ай бұрын
This girl always loved with all her heart, it was finally time she received the same love she gave.
@dingola_
@dingola_ 7 ай бұрын
And now shes way more... stable then before, shes relationship with sonic can finaly grow more naturaly. It kinda remembers me of eileen and rigby relationship from regular show
@000Dragon50000
@000Dragon50000 10 ай бұрын
The hammer vault has to be the coolest damn movement mechanic in SA1 and that's competing with ACTUAL FLIGHT.
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
... Well I don't know about that one, now!... You lost me on comparing it against flight though!!!
@necroleis
@necroleis 10 ай бұрын
I like to think that classic Amy having a weirder move set ties into her learning to hold her own. The advance series moveset is more refined in my opinion and it looks like she really mastered her usage with the hammer by that time. So her looking a little janky in the older titles makes a bit of sense to me since she's a newb.
@comicfan1324
@comicfan1324 10 ай бұрын
My only issue with super Amy is that the game never directly calls that “Super Amy” (same applies for Hyper Amy). I mean, it clearly is a super form, in the same way, tails and knuckles have their super forms. But the game just says “Amy has all the chaos emeralds“ and when the trailer showed off super Amy, it just said “play a SUPERPOWERED Amy Rose“ Like come on, we all know it’s a super form just say it. But for what it’s worth, I’m just happy that she got one at all.
@Majin_151
@Majin_151 10 ай бұрын
The game says now amy can be super amy In sonic 3 and knuckles if you collect the super emeralds
@true-dark-mind9681
@true-dark-mind9681 10 ай бұрын
@@Majin_151 That's because it's a modded ROM hack, not an original game with no additions to it
@sonicdml4175
@sonicdml4175 10 ай бұрын
It might be a lore thing, they might still not be allowed to make others go into actual super forms, so they just went as close as possible.
@mattheworabone1317
@mattheworabone1317 10 ай бұрын
@@true-dark-mind9681 No, @Majin_151 is correct. Sonic 3 & Knuckles in Sonic Origins Plus says now Amy can be Super Amy when you collect all of the Super Emeralds.
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely... some things ya just can't change!!!
@bobbovine
@bobbovine 10 ай бұрын
Technically, Amy has the original Tails situation in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, where getting the Super Emeralds makes her Super Amy. Her form when she gets the Chaos Emeralds goes unnamed.
@harrybest2041
@harrybest2041 10 ай бұрын
Could this be a bug? Tails only had one super form in the original Sonic 3, but Amy has two in Sonic Origins like the rest of the characters. There's no way this could be intentional.
@bobbovine
@bobbovine 10 ай бұрын
@@harrybest2041 In the launch trailer, they called her "superpowered Amy" rather than just saying Super Amy, so I think it was on purpose
@kingofflames738
@kingofflames738 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I really like the old design of Amy. I wasn't around when she was first introduced, instead I saw that design for the first time long after the other hedgehogs were introduced. With all the hedgehogs lined up she really doesn't look like "Sonic but pink and female" since Sonic's base silhouette is the core of ALL of them so she looks just as unique as Shadow and Silver. I'd say her getup makes her stand out even more amongst all the hedgehogs.
@Py687
@Py687 10 ай бұрын
I'm actually puzzled why the video argues she wasn't unique in the original art, because at the time she was the only clothed character in the series (besides Eggman).
@rossjones8656
@rossjones8656 10 ай бұрын
I got to say it... when I learned Amy has a super form I genuinely was happy.
@AnnamatopoeiaArt
@AnnamatopoeiaArt 10 ай бұрын
Amy fans, let's GO! I loved her as a kid (Thank you Sonic X) I'm glad that she's gotten so much love and development in the last couple years.
@TM_Em0lga
@TM_Em0lga 10 ай бұрын
Except in Free riders
@theking8347
@theking8347 9 ай бұрын
Amy being way younger than Sonic was the case in the games too. In her debut in Sonic CD, Amy was 8 years old. When Sonic Adventure came around, they retconned Amy's age to 12, making the age gap only three years
@matthewwylie2735
@matthewwylie2735 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty darn hopeful for Sonic (and by extension Amy). While Sega's been trying to clean up the mess that has been this franchise, they've been steadily trying new things and listening to fans (Frontiers having a more ambitious story, listening to fans with the updates, adding in a bunch of new content), and giving importance to Amy (classic Amy even) feels like a big step. It's all far from perfect, but even if they're baby steps, they're still steps in the right direction.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
Pssh, more like doing damage control. Honestly, they could’ve at least tried to improve and stick to what was done before, rather than altering the gameplay mechanics.
@moosesues8887
@moosesues8887 10 ай бұрын
You so odd
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
Boooooooooy, you deserve a very great Amen for that one!!!
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
@@mazkeraid4039 Well, I guess I understand where you're comin' from, though!
@paigeturner7513
@paigeturner7513 10 ай бұрын
@matthewwylie2735 with Amy having super forms, super human strength and super speed, she can now go around and save the world. This could give Sonic the vacation he deserves and relax more; So Sonic could consider it. For the record, since IDW has Amy a calm and assertive leader, Sonic could be preparing her to lead the team from now on. That's possibly why he's grooming her with training battles and getting stronger. For Amy this will be the most exciting thing she ever wanted. Since she become a hero in Sonic Adventure, SEGA has been wanting to do this for quite some time.
@Timmothy_plays
@Timmothy_plays 10 ай бұрын
Sonic and Mario fans are being fed good this year with Classic Amy and Daisy being playable in the newest 2d games :D
@Oceane1803
@Oceane1803 10 ай бұрын
I think I said it before under one of your videos, but I'm gonna say it again, I really love Amy in Advance because playing as her isn't as easy as playing as Sonic. Just jumping isn't enough to eliminate enemies for example. Amy in Advance isn't as strong as Sonic, and yet, she still goes after Eggman on her own if you pick her. And I think it's admirable and depicts her as a strong woman, who isn't afraid to go on adventures like Sonic despite being less powerful than he is. I respect her for that.
@ashmander3465
@ashmander3465 10 ай бұрын
The best dream Amy has. Here's hoping for canon super Amy in superstars they have to give knux and tails superforms for that game too.
@antrox2346
@antrox2346 10 ай бұрын
It doesn't have much to do with the topic, but I would like to see a unique transformation for Amy that has relation with magic or mystical things. I think it's more interesting when a character has something unique and different than following the same path as everyone else. Plus it fits her character very well. Just saying.
@technoguyx
@technoguyx 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, more effort needs to be put into giving her (and more characters) an unique characterization and personality. She's been into tarot and mysticism since the Sonic CD days, they've been bringing that back lately for merch so why not incorporate it into the plot. Her transformation/abilities could also involve some kind of connection to Flickies and nature, referencing Adventure.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
Problem: Tarot Cards are not magical items contrary to popular’s belief.
@antrox2346
@antrox2346 10 ай бұрын
@@mazkeraid4039 True, but that's a start, isn't it? I always saw it as a wasted potential.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
@@antrox2346 Mhm. To be honest, Tarot Cards are more of a hobby than an ability.
@antrox2346
@antrox2346 10 ай бұрын
@@mazkeraid4039 Yeah, but a hobby can become an indispensable part of you if you develop it more, besides it doesn't necessarily have to be tarot cards, magic and mysticism have many things in which it can be used.
@Cloke100
@Cloke100 10 ай бұрын
We love Amy appreciation in this house
@pixelluka888
@pixelluka888 10 ай бұрын
Sir this is youtube
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
@@pixelluka888 ÀAAAAHHHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAA!!!
@prplzbr
@prplzbr 10 ай бұрын
StC Amy is the best depiction of Amy and that is *because* she was different to the games. She was (mostly, if you ignore her introduction) written with way more respect - even the weapon Sega gave her is a TOY squeaky hammer. She is a LOT of fun to play in Origins though. It may kind of be easy mode, but she's great for just smashing through the enemies in new ways.
@Gerik75
@Gerik75 10 ай бұрын
Do you imagine if in the next Amy 30th anniversary comic book, they managed to show Super Amy in there? Or even she just imagine herself to be like that? I think that even just depicting it still would be another victory for her.
@Demondaythedemon
@Demondaythedemon 10 ай бұрын
I remember seeing that in some older games Amy’s name was Rosie the Rascal and I used to call her that for fun and I still do. However I looked her up more info and her name apparently is Amelia Rose..? Idk, but I do know for certain her name was Rosy the Rascal at one point before officially changing it. I also love how the made it the name for Anti Amy in the comics :3
@Lexi_Zone
@Lexi_Zone 10 ай бұрын
The Japanese manual for Sonic CD calls her Rosie the Rascal, but also specifies that her real name is Amy Rose. So the term has always been with her!
@Demondaythedemon
@Demondaythedemon 10 ай бұрын
@@Lexi_Zone I see. Well the more you know. I guess that’s why her name was changed in other old games too like Sonic the fighters
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
@@Lexi_Zone ... Great piece of information there, bud, thanks!!!
@jeremiahbaugh8195
@jeremiahbaugh8195 8 ай бұрын
I will never get over the "gimme a boost response". It's just too fucking cute.
@mushroomfusion245
@mushroomfusion245 10 ай бұрын
I’m so glad I’m not the only one spending hours ranting about how it should’ve been the Advance moveset.
@heroicgangster9981
@heroicgangster9981 10 ай бұрын
Simps are underrated characters when they are given the chance to be written more than their initial character. I always jive with characters that have a single desire mainly a person and then it develops into something more!
@essycogany2738
@essycogany2738 10 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree more.
@adamptb1240
@adamptb1240 10 ай бұрын
The thing I was looking forward to the most about Origins plus was actually getting to see a cool Super form for Amy Shame they didn't even try
@keelanbarron928
@keelanbarron928 10 ай бұрын
Well, what would you have wanted? (Because making her yellow would be boring and lame.)
@adamptb1240
@adamptb1240 10 ай бұрын
@@keelanbarron928 it's better than just making her glow
@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171
@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 10 ай бұрын
​@@adamptb1240They made Tails and Knuckles glow. I have a theory that only male hedgehogs have a gene that allows them to change their fur tone when given the Emeralds' power.
@Majin_151
@Majin_151 10 ай бұрын
​@@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 I think the reason why tails and knuckles only glow In the original was due to not having enough space for two entirely new sprite sheets just for unique looks for super tails and super knuckles and used the glow method as a way to give them both supers with tails getting the birds to give super tails something offensive with his form otherwise it would just be invincibility and a speed boost And they just used the glow method for the other playable additions ie mighty,ray and Amy is due to having to come up with a super sprite sheet for them which with how strict the time they usually give the devs I don't see having enough time to implement unique looks for those three
@bilbobaggins9167
@bilbobaggins9167 10 ай бұрын
@@keelanbarron928 I disagree. Turning gold would be more interesting than just flashing white, especially if her quills were more spiked up like Sonic's. They could have at least given her hyper form afterimages like every other character has...
@ralonnetaph6450
@ralonnetaph6450 9 ай бұрын
I feel like a big part of the reason Amy never spindashed starts with the fact that the first main game she's playable in is Adventure. In Sonic3 and Knuckles and such, all three characters have to progress through the same kind of levels, ones built around Sonic's ability to go fast with many spots requiring spindash for the speed boost if you lose your momentum or you can't run up the rampwall.Knuckles and Tails, while having alternative tools, could potentially end up in a situation where they could not progress if there was a dev oversight, so they changed the color of the ball and let them spindash. Adventure on the other hand, each character had their own levels, designed just for them. In that case the appeal was having all the different playstyles of all the different characters, so making them all be able to spindash would take away from that by making them same-ey by all sharing an ability, and then all the levels would be designed accounting for that ability instead, thus making all the different characters levels feel a bit more like the same kind of gameplay. So, Amy didn't get spindash because she didn't need it because the levels were designed around her NOT playing like Sonic. It was likely the fact that she couldn't spindash in Adventure that she wasn't given it in future games, because in trying to make her not play like Sonic, they accidentally cemented the idea that she simply could not do it. She should have been given spindash by Sonic Advance though. Anyway if you made it this far, hi, I'm Ralon, and I'm salty we didn't get rose gold super Amy.
@BlackFlash09
@BlackFlash09 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'm cool with Super Amy being a brighter pink with a white glow. Maybe she's actually a hot magenta in published illustrations. Though, I wouldn't have minded a Fleetway hairstyle reference. Maybe even her clothes changing colors as well. Also consider this... Team Yellow: Super Sonic, Super Tails, Super Ray Team Pink: Super Knuckles, Super Mighty, Super Amy
@oranjaglad8648
@oranjaglad8648 10 ай бұрын
I’m happy to see Amy finally shine!
@altermike3197
@altermike3197 10 ай бұрын
I really love Amy, she's really cute! And it's great to see her fight for herself every now and then
@LannyLeArtist
@LannyLeArtist 10 ай бұрын
Yeah!
@crazyfire9470
@crazyfire9470 4 ай бұрын
She has been since adventure…
@arktype586
@arktype586 10 ай бұрын
the part of amy being able to vote now killed me hahahaha
@elliotgandersen
@elliotgandersen 10 ай бұрын
I really enjoy Amy (and the other none hedgehog characters) getting a super form, because the chaos energy affects all. If anything Knuckles should have a better form then Sonic, as he was the guardian and studier of the emeralds, while Sonic just found them.
@shortbreadhead
@shortbreadhead 10 ай бұрын
I just wish they'd bring back Honey the Cat. I know she was based on a character from Fightin Vipers but they took her further in the comics. I just think she has such a cool design and got totally neglected. Would be so cool to see them bring her back because she stands out, whereas the other forgotten characters from fighters are similar to others already being used every now and then. The things that could be...
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
Or they can make a replacement for Honey the Cat and let’s be frank, she has no more else going on than even Cream the cutesy Rabbit outside being an anthro version of actual Honey.
@remix7345
@remix7345 10 ай бұрын
another neat quirk of amy's drop dash is that it's the same speed no matter how you hit the ground, so in some cases it's faster and others slower. it's a surprisingly technical move and i think that deserves credit.
@rickshabusky4553
@rickshabusky4553 10 ай бұрын
The old Amy childish love for Sonic personality was way better
@nic1234t_reborn
@nic1234t_reborn 10 ай бұрын
True
@TheSwordsman100
@TheSwordsman100 10 ай бұрын
I've always been conflicted with Amy, on one hand I feel she (during the modern age) should replace Knuckles as the power member of the trio, as for Knuckles is tied to Angel Island and breaking him away from it and the ME leads to his character decay. On the other hand she has this whole normal mobian citizen vibe that not only offers a brand new perspective but by her being not as skilled as a result led to her having a style solely her own. Which is why I'm also disappointed by Amy in Origins being Sonic but a girl with a stronger insta shield and drop dash instead of her Advance moveset. However, I don't want it to be retconed that she had her own adventures in 1,2 and 3 and do think her younger self does need to be used sparingly as if she is used too much it would utterly ruin the arc she would have in the Adventure era. (thus denying her growth) On the super forms though? Amy, Knuckles and Tails ALL need canon unique designed super forms for sure, they just need some thought put into their placement. While Tails and especially Amy need to wait for the Modern era to capitalize on their growth as characters, Super and Hyper Knuckles are shoe ins for appearing in the Classic era. Heck while it would be scummy, SEGA could make a profit off a Origins ++ if it included a new canon and uniquely designed Hyper Knuckles vs Super Mecha Sonic fight alone.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
Same, although it makes more sense for Sonic alone and I think that he wears that namesake better than anyone else. How about this? Knuckles takes Master Emerald, finds a new home as the island itself is now vacant, and dug it underneath so nobody, but himself can find it where it is going to be. This proves my point why Amy had been handed anything on a silver platter because they tend to give her the easy way out, rather than hard.
@TheSwordsman100
@TheSwordsman100 10 ай бұрын
@@mazkeraid4039 I have to disagree, IMO it makes no sense at all in universe for Sonic to be the only one to get a real super form, given whats been shown and said about the emeralds. Either way though that ship has already sailed thanks to Shadow and Silver, its just a matter of at least getting Knuckles a form. That wouldn't work because emerald radar is a thing in the setting. (its how Sonic and Tails found Angel Island) However by restoring Knuckles Chaotix back to being canon you could have the guardian duties go to Mighty and Ray, which would also explain where they have been. The only issue with my idea is that Chaos would need to meet Mighty but that could be set up in IDW. As for Amy yeah you're right, I can only hope Game Apologist doesn't get the Classic retcons he wants, Amy going from yearning to rejoin Sonic out of a sense of adventure and then training herself, getting better bit by bit each game in the Adventure Era was truly special.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
@@TheSwordsman100 Oh, that’s right. I meant to say that super makes more sense for Sonic namesake wise, not the transformation itself. Last I checked, Angel Island remains grounded even with the master emerald restored in Sonic Adventure and now that Tikal and Chaos warped away, we don’t see the island rising up again. Of course, she was special in Adventure 1, Adventure 2 did little with her as you can easily write the story without her, Heroes’ portrayal of Amy was kind of… resettled if that makes sense.
@TheSwordsman100
@TheSwordsman100 10 ай бұрын
@@mazkeraid4039 It didn't stay grounded after SA1, with it being a focus for several of the GBA games and Tikal and Chaos came back later. (you can even see both in the canon Sonic Frontiers Knuckles animated short) Chaos in particular tried to help out in the Emeral crisis (which is why it was playable in Battle) and according to Ian was holding the Earth's water together in Unleashed. I also have to disagree with SA2, here Amy is slowly accepted as a actual part of the group and is the catalyst for redeeming Shadow. With Heroes....yeah though she is better in the dialogue in the stages.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
@@TheSwordsman100 Sure, sure, but you can have Tails releasing Sonic from prison and Rouge coming to terms that she does find something worth more than just getting a jewel when you have save a sea turtle which should’ve fleshed her out further. That way, you can have the events play out similarly, because most of the scene ignores Amy’s presence and you even see Sonic handing out the inhibitor ring to Rouge, slowly but surely have that sort of feeling that she’s reeling back her own flaw. You may as well wonder how on earth did she get up on that platform this high. Boat would be likely, if it’s not too low. Uh no, for story purposes, they did not comeback. Chaos may be back for Sonic Battle, but Tikal is barely seen.
@mechashadow
@mechashadow 10 ай бұрын
12:00 I think it's just they wanted to make her moveset consistent with Sonic Superstars and the rest of the series. Sometimes, it's the simplest explanation.
@HectorCotto97
@HectorCotto97 10 ай бұрын
I've never seen a problem with Amy not being on the same level as Sonic and the others since to me it kinda made sense. If Sonic Adventure, Sonic Forces and to a lesser extent Who Murdered Sonic the Hedgehog are anything to go by, Sonic and his friends are sorta an exception even within their own universe. Not all Hedgehogs can run as fast as Sonic or turn into a ball like he can, Sonic and his friends are special cases. To me Amy despite being one of Sonic's friends has always fallen more into the category of civilian then the rest of her friends. While someone like Tails lives in the middle of nowhere in a small home and Knuckles lives in a floating island in the middle of the ocean, someone like Amy is just casually going out shopping for groceries or hanging out with friends like a normal person. To me Amy has always been sorta an in between of a normal civilian and one of the special people, someone who fits in with normal society while also being capable enough to go out on Adventures like Sonic and friends. To me Amy being one of the weakest of her friends made sense, HOWEVER I also think that since it's been years and Amy has been on enough Adventures that I think that at the very least she deserves an expanded moveset to match her years of experience (sorta like what they did with her for Project 06). The one thing I DON'T think they should do is just allow Amy to turn Super out of nowhere, as far as I'm aware Amy has never been shown to even know how the emeralds work much less know how to draw out their power. Of course I'm not saying I'm entirely against the idea of Amy going Super (I like her Super fan arts too), I just think that if they ever do it that they should treat it like a special event and treat it with the respect it deserves as a big character building moment. (Maybe give her her own game or something to expand on her character and by the end she transforms into her Super form to show the pinical of her growth as a character, or something like that.)
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
Even though Amy is a anthro hedgehog who can roll into a ball, not a human. I don’t care that she is a Sonic clone, she’s meant to be a feminine version of Sonic with none of the crazy abilities. Also, I noticed that she just got more push than other characters who happened to be female and I detested it more and more. It doesn’t help that with Origins, she just crowbars into the main cast unceremoniously to make you think that she had the importance from the very start, when it doesn’t be the case originally. Also, in my opinion, all the hedgehogs should roll into a ball. There is no excuse for this.
@soya_kitchens
@soya_kitchens 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely seconded to all of this. I feel like everyone's sort of just getting caught in the whirlwind of playable/"Super" Amy while also completely disregarding her actual character, traits, and ironically, "origins". Adding onto thatーI was surprised that Nick didn't mention this at all, especially when raving about her design, that of which her character and design are made up of elements that Naoto Ohshima and Kazuyuki Hoshino (and apparently other staff) found desirable in girls at the time, which taking into account Japan's culture at the time, completely makes sense. Amy is meant to be the heart of the team! She's supposed to be strong in her own way! ("Ways" when taking the Magic Hammer into account!) Making her just another fighter (and especially an Easy-Mode Sonic) is lame! And lastly, NO!! Retconning her whole story just for the sake of a dumb character add-on DLC ISN'T cool! Although I'm fairly certain that Twitter video Nick brought up is meant to just be a joke, not them actually saying she went back in time and changed the history of the games. Her routes are going to be just as canon as Knuckles in Sonic 1 (That is to say, not at all). I wish people would just sit and think before going so crazy about all of this. Not that whatever I say will matter in this discussion, I'm one of the guys who actually liked Amy's Sonic-obsession character trait... Also, don't knock on Burning Blaze, Nick! She's awesome!!
@dragondelsur5156
@dragondelsur5156 10 ай бұрын
​@@soya_kitchens Why are you taking a stupid collection adding Amy as a retcon? Amy's origins remain unchanged until Sega says otherwise, most likely they heard the unpleased crowd of people that hated Amy was skipped in Mania and served as compensation for them, it's not as deep as you think it is, it's as deep as a puddle. Not to mention, Amy is supposed to improve at some point before SA1, she knew shit when that game came out.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
@@soya_kitchens Except, it was played to death. You can replace her with any other character that doesn’t have artificial character growth.
@dragondelsur5156
@dragondelsur5156 9 ай бұрын
​@@mazkeraid4039 -N word- just admit you don't want Amy to get anything good, how hard is it?
@treena9930
@treena9930 10 ай бұрын
I love that Amy FINALLY feels like part of the core 4. Before. She really felt like she had about as much importance as the Chaotix or Silver. Still a fan favorite and part of stories. Not really anything special. It really felt like they put her in games in the most minuscule role possible. Just because "It's Amy" but not really caring about her. She should have been playable in Mania. She should have had larger roles in games she's appeared in. She was done dirty so often, and I'm glad she gets the respect she deserves. She's not my personal favorite, but I still like her as a character. It's also why. While I would love a Chaotix spinoff game. Amy herself deserves a the time in the Spotlight having her own adventure first.
@CometX-ing
@CometX-ing 10 ай бұрын
I agree that its good that Classic Amy gets more attention in the modern era, but I disagree that her characterization in the past was an issue. If anything it was purely a matter of utilization because her story in Adventure wouldn't have mattered for her character if she was always in the thick of it with everyone else. I think her dynamic with Sonic allowed her to stand out where making her as rough and tumble as the boys just left her feeling less unique (for the time Fleetway was more standout but nowadays not so much.) Still, putting Amy as an extra playable character in the classic is pretty much a no brainer and having her as a fourth playable character in Superstars in a natural step for her. I also don't mind her Super form being similar to other non-Sonic classic super forms, because as long it doesn't as long as Tails and Knuckles are stuck with it it doesn't feel like she was purposely made less than the boys. I still think her best gameplay style was the Amy Mania character mod, so what she's got in Origins seems a bit underwhelming by comparison.
@bebopknux5857
@bebopknux5857 10 ай бұрын
tbh considering how fans have interpreted classic amy's moveset in sonic 1 reborn and the like, it really wouldn't hurt for her to have her hammer jump since it can easily keep momentum( though maybe in the fastest levels like chemical plant the jump would be too ridiculous) But I too am glad that Girls are now properly able to play the Original sonic games, as while I am myself a classic amy fan I feel for too long most sonic games (due to what they are) don't allow for girls to enjoy it if they don't like playing a cool, witty hedgehog. After all as eggman once said " You know what they say, the more the merrier!"
@isaacargesmith8217
@isaacargesmith8217 10 ай бұрын
Honestly one thing thats kind of interesting about fleetway amy is that some of the comic's creators collabed with a fan comic to sort of end the comic on their own terms since they didnt get the chance to while it was officially running, and they made her in a lesbian relationship with Tekno. While not TECHINCALLY canon, it's got that sort of authorial intent from several creators of of the official fleetway canon and lets be fair there probably isnt going to be a more "official" ending anyways so this is the closest its probably getting. Its kinda interesting seeing amy not actually end up in a sonic relationship in one of the side canons on a technicallity sorta.
@Lexi_Zone
@Lexi_Zone 10 ай бұрын
I only just learned about this! She and Tekno even have a son, and Sonic is the godfather! 🏳️‍🌈 What a way to end pride month.
@DreadtheMadSmith
@DreadtheMadSmith 10 ай бұрын
It's nice that she's finally grown as a character, both as actually being a "real" playable core character and that the writers are actually showing some love. As well as sortal being the only character with development. This as someone who used to hate the very concept of this character.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
I stopped caring about her considering that they just shoehorn her in Origins thanks to that one error in the profile. She had the Piko-Piko out of nowhere and suddenly becomes a fighter in Origins just because when she wasn’t meant to be originally.
@antrox2346
@antrox2346 10 ай бұрын
Grown?
@meleeludens
@meleeludens 10 ай бұрын
@@mazkeraid4039 pariah695 fan
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
@@meleeludens I stopped watching his contents, that’s just how I feel.
@prototypex28
@prototypex28 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, even an unlockable Arcade Mode that just let's you play as the other characters would be fine to me. Something like that "Sonic Worlds" fan game does. I always thought it could be cool to go through all the levels and bosses in frontiers as the other characters. It doesnt need to follow the story, they could just disable the story segments if we were playing as another character besides the blue blur himself, and let us go through the stages one after another without interruptions. But hey amy, tails and knuckles are getting their own stories in frontiers so that's cool, I hope there's more to it than just being for a tiny portion of the game.
@ArcadianLegend
@ArcadianLegend 10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention Amy's playable appearances in the classic era like Sonic Drift 1/2 where she drove a sentient car, Sonic the Fighters which introduced her Piko Piko Hammer and Sonic R.
@TheYellowShyGuy
@TheYellowShyGuy 10 ай бұрын
He did though.
@ant445
@ant445 10 ай бұрын
"only male hedgehogs can go super" my ass
@Sonicmid
@Sonicmid 10 ай бұрын
That mandate died the moment frontiers came out.
@Fi___
@Fi___ 10 ай бұрын
Only male hedgehogs turn yellow*
@finalhazard247
@finalhazard247 10 ай бұрын
@@SonicmidI feel like Amy, Knuckles, and Tails have more of a super state than a super transformation.
@justan324
@justan324 10 ай бұрын
plus look at how dragon ball turned that around too XD
@kyloren1420
@kyloren1420 10 ай бұрын
that waa a mosunderstandin. suprt forms don't work based on species or sex that's retarded
@Crow_Rising
@Crow_Rising 10 ай бұрын
Sonic having one of the few unique Super form designs is honestly just one thing in a much bigger list of things that makes him an anomaly in his own universe. Dude has a history of doing things, beating things, and being immune to things that nobody should be capable of, and no real concrete backstory. It happens so much that I find it unlikely to just be standard plot armor, it's as though there's some hidden lore point about him that they've been keeping secret for decades. It feels too purposeful in the writing for Sonic to be somehow special in a really big way.
@DarkFrozenDepths
@DarkFrozenDepths 10 ай бұрын
3:07 missed opportunity for the "WHAT ARE THOSE?!" meme..... But yes, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Mighty, Ray, Shadow, Silver, and even technically Blaze and Mecha Sonic (that robot from Sonic and Knuckles) all had super forms. Amy long deserved one.
@baval5
@baval5 10 ай бұрын
Ive been playing Sonic 1 Forever which has Amy playable in it with a moveset similar to Advance and I have to say it has really made me appreciate the classic Amy design. Ive never been a fan of Amys redesign, but neither was I a fan of the original since she was barely a character. But playing an entire playthrough of Sonic 1 as her made me appreciate how expressive and fun she can be. A big reason I played the mod instead of the official game is because I read in reviews on steam that Amy was just "Sonic with a hammer" in Origins Plus which didnt interest me, so I hope Sega can take the hint and make her more unique in the future like this mod.
@Lexi_Zone
@Lexi_Zone 10 ай бұрын
I love Amy. I was so happy as a kid when I saw a Dreamcast demo set up at Toys 'R' Us and saw you could play as her in Sonic Adventure. And she got her own stories in Sonic the Comic, which as a UK girl, I bought all the time! So, so glad to see her finally getting more love, and I'm so happy to see Classic Amy playable in my favorite Mega Drive games! Officially, I mean. I played as her in those games plenty in fan mods...! In which she had her Sonic Advance movesets, which made the Mega Drive games _really_ interesting. So I'm a _little_ disappointed her Origins moveset is so simple by comparison, but maybe it's to keep her in line with how she'll play in Sonic Superstars? So maybe it'll make sense in the long run.
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust 10 ай бұрын
I love how Amys drop dash actually has a taller hitbox then Sonics dash. It makes sense and i can imagine her rushing forward swinging it wildly like a madwoman.
@addictedtochocolate920
@addictedtochocolate920 10 ай бұрын
Odin: are you Amy: Goddess of hammers? Hyper Amy: *Yes*
@agentomecha634
@agentomecha634 10 ай бұрын
I’m happy to see Amy being pushed as an important member of the Sonic cast again with her being playable in Origins Plus, the upcoming Sonic Frontiers DLC Update 3, and in the upcoming Sonic Superstars. It’s nice to see her get more attention and recognition over the recent years. Plus, maybe that stupid “Only male hedgehogs can turn Super” mandate is finally being removed.
@kyloren1420
@kyloren1420 10 ай бұрын
that was a misunderstandin they only meant the ones that alr exist. It's not based on species or sex
@nightwish1453
@nightwish1453 10 ай бұрын
Think Amy has been pushed as an important sonic character , not payable but she was always there she is like the 2nd or 3rd character that sega would include much like tails, knuckles and shadow . Other characters it’s sometimes a miracle they are even in the game in the first place like silver being in forces
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 10 ай бұрын
Amy's playstyle in SA1 was so underrated, really is a shame she only got 3 stages instead of the 5 that half the cast got.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
At least it justifies here as opposed to what she had in Adventure 2, 2006, Unleashed, Colors, need I go on?
@anricquet
@anricquet 10 ай бұрын
@@mazkeraid4039 ... You know what I'm sayin', though?!!!
@milestheprower8583
@milestheprower8583 10 ай бұрын
Even this small mention of Rosy the Rascal made me so happy, like way happier then it should have, she needs more love
@victoriouswinner7745
@victoriouswinner7745 10 ай бұрын
Haven’t watched the video yet, just came to say I love your content. It’s great to listen to while I draw (:
@Unkn0wn.m3
@Unkn0wn.m3 10 ай бұрын
It’s crazy, for my whole life I always had love for Amy rose as a character, but this year I came to the conclusion that Amy rose is actually my favourite sonic character and I’m glad that sega is finally giving her the love she deserves ❤️
@jvts8916
@jvts8916 10 ай бұрын
In general, a lot of early Sega ideas were made to stick it to Nintendo. For example, back in the original release of Sonic CD, the only one of Eggman's boss machines with a proper name was the first one, the Egg HVC 001. It was named after the Famicom and made the a pathetic boss (though I think this is kind of a fruitless taunt given you can't really see their name while you fight it and the rest of the non-Metal Sonic fights weren't that impressive either even for puzzle boss standards). I assume Amy was added to CD specifically to show how Sonic differentiates from Mario by portraying him as not interested in the damsel in distress.
@kyloren1420
@kyloren1420 10 ай бұрын
correct
@anonbefallen4807
@anonbefallen4807 10 ай бұрын
I never liked seeing Amy show up, not because I hated her as a character but because as someone who grew up with the 3d games, (06 coming out the year I was born) she never really had a character. If she was ever even in the game, she was a side side character like Blaze and Silver in Colors, just standard issue "I love Sonic!", or filling whatever hole the writers needed, like in forces, which was a slight I found particularly offensive as a long time Sally Acorn fan. I like that she's showing up more main stream and I like what they did with her characterization in Frontiers, I can now say for the first time, I'm looking forward to seeing more of Amy!
@TurnaboutAkamia
@TurnaboutAkamia 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I didn't like Amy for years, even after she became playable. It was mostly to do with her characterization. It wasn't until somewhere within the last 5-7 years or so that I started taking her seriously as a character. I'm glad she's getting more to do, and overall she's being better-written. And I'm sure I'll love her new playable appearances. Despite what I thought of her characterization for most of her existence, her playable outings were honestly pretty neat IMO, regardless of what individual games we're looking at.
@winnerthecoolguy2009
@winnerthecoolguy2009 10 ай бұрын
I really wish we got to see more of little planet
@GamerGuyd7Aces
@GamerGuyd7Aces 10 ай бұрын
Super Amy DOES Matter after all
@HedgehogY2K
@HedgehogY2K 9 ай бұрын
Hehehe. Amy spamming her mallet is a hilarious reference to Sonic X.
@midimaggie
@midimaggie 9 ай бұрын
as a girl who grew up with sonic adventure and adventure 2 and loved amy simply because she was the token girl character i can't tell you how cathartic this amy appreciation era has been. i really hope some day we get back to her adventure gameplay, it's so fun and acrobatic and DIFFERENT and the feeling of running fast enough to get that hammer launch, especially off a high surface, is unparalleled in any of the games since. i could do without the being chased part though lmao. here's hoping the frontiers dlc takes us back to that!
@MrGamer07100
@MrGamer07100 10 ай бұрын
They probably didn’t give her a roll jump spin dash in Advance 1 or Adventure to make her standout from the rest. And it wouldn’t be super in character for her to do is how I always interpreted.
@kyloren1420
@kyloren1420 10 ай бұрын
agreed
@Retrblu
@Retrblu 10 ай бұрын
Love seeing you do these types of videos, they are really enjoyable and your videos on hyper sonic, super Tails and hyper knuckles as well as your sonic 3 and knuckles video happened to be one of the things that got me back into the franchise
@inDN
@inDN 10 ай бұрын
I just picked up the Origins Plus DLC yesterday and the first thing I did was play Sonic CD as Amy. I remembered your channel and your amazing video on Hyper Sonic, and sure enough, I just stumbled upon this one. Great content as always!
@eeveekid2331
@eeveekid2331 2 ай бұрын
"Oops I spilled my milk" Bro you CAME on that picture
@YisehakKebedqethefirst
@YisehakKebedqethefirst 10 ай бұрын
I did not know Amy had a super form but she definitely deserved it because sonic, tails, and knuckles got one so it only fair
@nightwish1453
@nightwish1453 10 ай бұрын
This is technically the first official appearance of Amy in a super form though I am not sure if super Amy will just be locked to the classic style games with tails and knuckles who after 3 never shown their super forms in later entires going as far to state only male hedgehogs have the power to be a super through the chaos emeralds which has always been portrayed like this in the modern style. Super amy could be in the modern style but I think they would have to be an extreme push to do so and how much they will use Amy in the future in the new era of sonic because after 06 she was mainly fortunate appearing in most of the meta era because she is considered a classic character and they feel obliged to put her in there but not playable which did happen with tails and knuckles for a bit meanwhile you get silver, blaze etc not always appear because they don’t have that leverage as the older characters do, only shadow has managed to peak to appear as frequently as the main 4
@jasam01
@jasam01 10 ай бұрын
@@nightwish1453 ...Pritty sure Tails and Knuckles were last super in heros.
@nightwish1453
@nightwish1453 10 ай бұрын
@@jasam01 not exactly, when you look at heroes it ends up being super sonic with his 2 friends whom he gave them forcefield balls to float in, they don't have any physical change unlike sonic. the devs most likely were lazy giving them actual models for the super forms of them and instead gave them "golde energy shields". 06 does retcon super tails and super knuckles completely as the hedgehog trio end up doing a similar thing in heroes but shadow and silver very clearly had their super forms so it just doesn't mesh well when put together as if those forms no longer exist and that's not a good sign for super tails and super knuckles
@gregtom3272
@gregtom3272 10 ай бұрын
also i think there might be a reason why super forms are not given properly to other characters and instead give them a white glow or a sheild in sonic heroes , which has to do with that not every character is supposed to be able to control chaos energy , as in sonic adventure 2 , as the whole point of project shadow is to figure out how to make a being that is able to control the power of the chaos emeralds to help to find a cure to maria by analysing that being , as his capability to control that power which can do so much could help figure a cure to her , as well that they made a big deal out of shadow becoming super , at the transformation cut scene of sonic adventure 2 , so tails and knuckles' transformations in sonic 3 and knuckles were probably for game play reasons , and that could explain why they did not had proper ones , or why they had those golden sheilds in sonic heroes , as for sonic , there is probably something special about him regarding his capability of controling chaos emeralds power , and gerald tried to replicate that with shadow probably thanks to discovering about prophecies regarding sonic like in hidden palace zone , which is a theory , but that's all i have of ideas regarding why other characters don't have proper super forms
@kyloren1420
@kyloren1420 10 ай бұрын
that's correct & there is an answer
@mistersp3753
@mistersp3753 10 ай бұрын
22:40 Look, I already changed my PSA a few days ago to honor Sonic's birthday. If anyone is curious, it reads: 'Sonic 1 was released on the solstice, so Sonic's birthday is literally the Door Into Summer'. Which isn't even true because the internet lied to me! The solstice is actually on June 21st.
@Lexi_Zone
@Lexi_Zone 10 ай бұрын
Amy is canonically 8-years-old in Sonic CD and 12-years-old with her Sonic Adventure redesign, at least according to Japan, so Sonic's disinterest in her is because of that. It's kind of like Dipper and Wendy from Galaxy Falls--the Precocious Crush trope. So Archie's initial interpretation of her was absolutely correct. The UK comics seemed to make her the same age as Sonic instead, but despite the lack of Princess Sally, they never got together, and she eventually seemed to lose all interest in him. Edited after checking the Japanese manual for Sonic CD, which gives her original age. I think that's important to know because it explains a lot about what sort of character they intended her to be: not a true love interest, but a kid with a crush.
@dragondelsur5156
@dragondelsur5156 10 ай бұрын
🤓
@Retrblu
@Retrblu 10 ай бұрын
Always enjoy these types of videos from, and finally getting to play the classics as Amy was a very fun experience
@dabluepittoo-aqua4213
@dabluepittoo-aqua4213 10 ай бұрын
Just gonna say this, us Amy fans are eating WELL this year
@supercloudreed
@supercloudreed 8 ай бұрын
you forgot about the one comic where they hand Amy turn from young to say now-end-days Amy by using a wish to age up to the same age as Sonic.
@etepapu8276
@etepapu8276 10 ай бұрын
20:26 For some reason, I prefer Amy and Tails as a duo instead of Sonic and Tails, it feels more natural to me for some reason (and they are my favorite characters, literally, I find both of them adorable which is something I would NEVER say about any other videogame character.)
@Blaze4ification
@Blaze4ification 10 ай бұрын
Amy can turn into a ball in Advance 2 and 3, though 3 she needs to be paired up with the right character, I know Sonic allows her, can't remember who else, or if anyone else does.
@MattAnd
@MattAnd 10 ай бұрын
I’m happy that Amy is getting all this love. I wasn’t keen on her as a little kid, but you’re right it’s purely because of how she was presented rather than the character herself. Advance was the first time I really enjoyed Amy’s presence (I never had the Adventure games growing up), and since then she’s been one of my favourites from the series. What I’m most glad for is that she seems to be presented as one of the main 4 in recent years, which I never felt was the case in the late 00s early 10s
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 10 ай бұрын
She wasn’t all that prominent in the 90s either (barring Sonic Adventure) mainly because she is just there as a fill-in. I do have an idea how she properly grows as a character, but first they have to reboot her to be part of Tails’ generation considering that they had similar bonds with the blue hedgehog rather than above it. That is, if SEGA would be able to do something like that.
@variumi
@variumi 10 ай бұрын
All this new Amy content definitely makes me think that we’ll be seeing her in the third sonic movie, alongside shadow and (maybe) rouge
@TronicSSJ07
@TronicSSJ07 10 ай бұрын
1:33 version 1 of Unknown from M.E. for risqué moments 30 seconds ago. 1:03 version 2 for rap moments
@bigmacsama
@bigmacsama 10 ай бұрын
Dude, that was amazing! I hope you get to do an Hyper Amy video next~!
@AprilTheGOAT
@AprilTheGOAT 10 ай бұрын
Im saying it: Amy needs her own game
@sora543
@sora543 10 ай бұрын
after the event is frontirer i think that is what thery were setting up
@Tacom4ster
@Tacom4ster 10 ай бұрын
It's bizarre Amy didn't get her own game before Zelda and Peach, I like the hammer mechanics too
@GoodGirlPeruru
@GoodGirlPeruru 10 ай бұрын
These comments make me happy. :) Sometimes I forget that, for the majority of the public (especially men) femininity isn’t desirable in characters and often characters are praised undeservedly (or at least, no *more* deservedly) when they don’t represent that directly. Seeing *so many* people be so vocal about their support of Amy and classic Amy’s recent direction as an outwardly feminine character people should respect is not something I expected to see today but it’s pleasant nevertheless~
@viruschris3160
@viruschris3160 10 ай бұрын
Even fans had a better Super Amy design and I LOVE they were allowed to be creative with the other characters' Super Form. Apparently Iizuka or someone on Sonic Team/SEGA mentioned only "MALE Hedgehogs can go Super" so in other words only Male Hedgehogs get unique Super Forms... which is STUPID. At least Amy had something better than what they did to Super Tails and Super Knuckles in Sonic Heroes. I will NEVER forget how disappointed when I saw the gold bubbles and hated that SEGA wouldn't like the old Super Forms return. Also, were you not aware that Amy Rose's design was actually inspired and based off Minnie Mouse? I could've swore you did research on it and that's why you brought up the Minnie Mouse comparison in the early part of the video, but no it looks like you weren't aware. Amy's design, like Sonic, is based off old cartoons and Minnie was picked to be the "girlfriend" of Sonic like how Minnie was for Micky with Minnie's dress and bow. Or headband in Amy's case. I always loved Amy and it's nice to see her being more loved. Though I will say, Amy from Sonic Advance still has the best gameplay. Apparently Amy is even FASTER than Sonic in Advance 1 if you know how to use her abilities right and clears stages the fastest.
@sytbaconman
@sytbaconman 10 ай бұрын
When does Eggman get a super and hyper form
@John-mp4qc
@John-mp4qc 10 ай бұрын
probably he’s moustache will go super saiyain - shadow
@EvilMariobot
@EvilMariobot 9 ай бұрын
It's not just the fanart; but also the romhacks and custom spritesheets of playable Amy. Playable Amy has been a hope of mine since Origins was announced. Now that I recently finished my playthrough of all the games with her, I feel such a sense of satisfaction at how fun she was to play as. No, I'm not going to hold my breath they'll add her to Mania, but with her now in 3&K, it widens the once narrow lead that game had over Mania in my book.
@Crow_Rising
@Crow_Rising 10 ай бұрын
Amy actually has a pre-existing lorepoint explaining why she would be having adventures in each of the games, and it gets brought up in the video: She's a diehard fangirl of Sonic who's head over heels for him. Origins itself shows off her chasing after Sonic in CD, so that's the obvious thing she's doing in general. She's chasing Sonic. The only real argument for her not being canon I can think of is in regards to CD considering she gets kidnapped, but Knuckles should be guarding the Master Emerald in Sonic 1-2 so it's not like the pieces ever fit into place super well to begin with.
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