SUPER EASY!! DIY Power Station Battery Capacity Expansion / Charger

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@Ken2ndAmendment
@Ken2ndAmendment 3 ай бұрын
You could also run thr batteries in series with a 2nd LiPho4 battery to reach 24V.
@raymccormick545
@raymccormick545 Жыл бұрын
Great information for those of us that dabble in DIY efforts. Thank you
@kuhrd
@kuhrd Жыл бұрын
One thing that may be beneficial if the specific power station can use a much higher input voltage is finding a boost converter with an output voltage just a bit under (5-10% or so) the max recommended solar input voltage or get one with adjustable output voltage range and just make sure you are not going over the max wattage rating of the boost converter or battery you are connecting to. This will allow higher input wattages for the power stations that support faster solar charging. Many of the portable power stations are limited in charging wattage due to the size of the solar charge controller they use so if they support a higher voltage that can sometimes yield a higher input rate till you hit the max rate of the internal solar charge controller. One other thing to mention about those boost converters is that they tend to want forced air cooling if you drive them much over their rating for any length of time.
@mehameha4453
@mehameha4453 Жыл бұрын
You’re always thinking, and we are blessed. Thanks again. It may come in very handy one day.
@anthonypalermo967
@anthonypalermo967 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for tips, I bought a stepup 12->24v 250W unit. (< $20) I plugged into my ecoflow 1280w station and with a 100ah battery it does 100 watts without stepup, 195watts with stepup. Thanks again.
@oskosh50
@oskosh50 Жыл бұрын
My Baldr power station has an MPPT controller built in to it. It limits input wattage to 65 watts. This is a great alternative to buying expensive add on battery’s. Thanks for the info.
@smoke5620
@smoke5620 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Happy New Year to you and your family. You have a great show and I enjoy everyone of them. Did you happen to try the diy expansion (12 to 24v) battery with any of the “ToGo” power stations? Great idea by the way!!
@LiquidTurbo
@LiquidTurbo Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks and exactly what I needed!
@davidlynnprepperprincipal3540
@davidlynnprepperprincipal3540 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Big thumbs up. Blessings 👍🏼
@The_Good_Life_starts_today
@The_Good_Life_starts_today Жыл бұрын
Good, informative video. Thanks!
@mrwonderfullgj
@mrwonderfullgj Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input. ( Pun Intended) Helpful video for apartment dwellers like myself that might lose grid power and have no yard to utilize my Solar Panels.
@krzjim
@krzjim Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of this type of addition because I can keep the power station topped up at night then charge the secondary battery with solar any time the power usage is light
@davidbrady9686
@davidbrady9686 Жыл бұрын
I added a 12 to 24 converter but at 10 amps to my Anker 757. I wired it into my larger solar bank system. Works great and chargers about 220 watts. Great video.
@EasyyokeFilms
@EasyyokeFilms Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for the converter please
@roadless_wanderers
@roadless_wanderers 7 ай бұрын
Im interested too in the converter. Did u find it?
@erichollis2568
@erichollis2568 Жыл бұрын
Nice idea. I’ve been planning to get a 24v-12v stepdown converter on a 100w solar panel output to run my fridge by the pool this summer. Maybe you could do a video running things off a solar panel with a converter instead of a battery. I know I’d be interested.
@googletitsfost
@googletitsfost Жыл бұрын
An mppt solar charge controller is basically a smart DC to DC converter which will do exactly what you are asking. Or go for a pwm controller if you want cheaper (£10 or so) but at a risk of less efficiency. The cheap pwm ones typically don't even need a battery.
@dystoniaify
@dystoniaify 11 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks for the tip. I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to try this, but it doesn't look too hard....For others not as poor as me, the delta 2 with the extra battery is only $1049 until July 54th.
@emmanuelfarrath6154
@emmanuelfarrath6154 5 ай бұрын
As always you create very informative and educational reviews on your channel and I bought the Vtoman Flashpeed 1500 thanks to your reviews as wells as the BougeRv 37 qt fridge , so my questions are the following. Can you use this step up with the Vtoman Fashspeed 1500 ? And what voltage on solar panels besides the 48v can be used to charge the unit?
@thefpvlife7785
@thefpvlife7785 Жыл бұрын
I simply have my Power Queen 12v 200ah battery with a NOCO connector on it and charge my EcoFlow Delta 2 plugged into the 12v cigarette to xt60 at slightly over 100w. A trickle charging under load is said to extend your LifePo4 life.
@selmopt
@selmopt 3 ай бұрын
how do you charge the battery?
@thefpvlife7785
@thefpvlife7785 3 ай бұрын
@@selmoptYou can charge the battery via solar or quicker yet with a LifPo4 charger. It's simple with no worries.
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP Ай бұрын
@@selmopt With solar or AC wall charger.
@bdmenne
@bdmenne 18 күн бұрын
You think this configuration would work for EF River 2 Pro. I was thinking 200ah would make it a beast in my small camper van. I didn’t to to lug around my heavier delta 2 max
@jonbrown6316
@jonbrown6316 10 ай бұрын
Worked When I Needed It
@si12volt1
@si12volt1 11 ай бұрын
XT60i connectors not the a xt60 but the xt60i like the one that comes with the Delta max for solar hook up and others units have an additional pin that would give more wattage into your eco flow unit from what I'm told I'm about to do a similar setup as this with possibly a 12v 48v 10a step up to hopefully get 480w input I hear these step up units can run hot
@whochecksthis
@whochecksthis Жыл бұрын
I recommend you install a fuse on the input side of your converter.
@jwrhynejr.6689
@jwrhynejr.6689 Жыл бұрын
great education, thank you so much for your input.
@michael.w.salter
@michael.w.salter 10 ай бұрын
I have an EB3A that i connect via cig lighter cable to 2 100ah AGM in parallel. They are charged via 300w of solar. Dont have a heavy load on the EB3A yet, but I'm optimistic. My pellet stove draws about 150w, and the AGMs will run it all night.
@randyfontaine1301
@randyfontaine1301 Жыл бұрын
This is great info. Do you think it would work with the Oupes 2400w Power station you reviewed a short while ago?
@bru_haha
@bru_haha Жыл бұрын
Good idea for a low price expansion. Another downside is the low efficiency and the extra cycles put onto the main battery. These small power stations take 15-20% more than rated capacity to charge, even over DC (512Wh capacity takes over 620Wh of input to charge), plus the 12 to 24V boost converter loss of 5-10%. Then you lose another 15-20% from the typical inefficiency of the power station when using the inverter/regulated DC. So if you do the math for something like the Ecoflow River 2 Max with 512Wh and a 1280Wh external battery, you are getting ~415Wh (original output capacity) plus just ~785Wh AC output capacity from dumping the 1280Wh into the unit and taking it out. The loss is much greater than compared to if you just hooked up an inverter to the external battery and used it that way, plus you effectively put 2 extra cycles of wear on the internal battery of the power station by dumping in the 1280Wh.
@206deeznutz
@206deeznutz Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking.
@LiquidTurbo
@LiquidTurbo Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the thought provoking comment.
@ItsEverythingElse
@ItsEverythingElse Жыл бұрын
Well any expansion battery is going to have that issue. Always buy the largest battery you can get away with.
@ItsEverythingElse
@ItsEverythingElse Жыл бұрын
Inverters aren't 100% efficient either. And you're now going from 12VDC to 120VAC and back to 12VDC. I don't see how that is better than 12 to 24 to 12.
@ItsEverythingElse
@ItsEverythingElse Жыл бұрын
How could you be putting two extra charge cycles in?? lol. Where is all that wasted energy going? When you recharge from solar are you also wasting two extra cycles?
@krisperkreme6021
@krisperkreme6021 7 ай бұрын
Great video. Would a 48v battery work better for a 48v power station expansion?
@rosalieroku3818
@rosalieroku3818 9 ай бұрын
You mention this as an expansion battery. Will your power station charge it? Or do you need another device to charge it?
@dquam3885
@dquam3885 2 ай бұрын
I don't think most power stations would charge the expansion battery. It would require connecting either a 120 volt charger or a 12 volt charge controller. 12 volt charge controller assumes the power station has 12 volt output.
@Evirthewarrior
@Evirthewarrior Жыл бұрын
A DIY to make a similar expansion battery to a Ecoflow, Bluette or Pecron, would be nice, all in one box that has similar capabilities to theirs and you can use it for multiple solar generators to recharge them, and recharge the battery somehow using the solar generator in some way.
@TheMarroush
@TheMarroush Ай бұрын
Great video, is it possible to use 2 12v lithium batteries in series to get 24v and no longer need the step up converter and at the same time increase the capacity even more?
@ciprianoprimicias4622
@ciprianoprimicias4622 Жыл бұрын
I've seen another channel where they combined 2 step up converters (12-36v, 5a) in parallel to achieve 36v at 10 amps to get 360 watts! Perfect for larger power stations like my Ecoflow Delta Max 😀
@si12volt1
@si12volt1 11 ай бұрын
yea i was watching that vid also he also added a fan and fuse holder ...I found a 12v 48v 10a hoping to get 480 as advertised on the units info amazon has them
@kablammy7
@kablammy7 9 ай бұрын
@@si12volt1 I was looking for something like that on amazon and the only thing I found close was 12v to 24v @ 20 amps - that is good but my solar input only allows 12 amp and 60v max .
@ceasalitoescobar5431
@ceasalitoescobar5431 Жыл бұрын
When you used the EB3A the wierd sound you mentioned. Was it like the slow winding up sound from the fans?
@desertdan100
@desertdan100 6 ай бұрын
The advantage of the more expensive add on units the much higher watt throughput. If you don't need the max wattage for extended periods of time I could see this method working out okay. If you need to run high drain loads , it won't help much. If you run any kind of heating load very long it will show up quickly. If all you are running is led lighting and small electronic rechargers, this will work well.
@puffyd58
@puffyd58 4 ай бұрын
Excellent, informative video. Unfortunately the ONE power station you said might not be a good option for this is the Eb3a . . . the one I have. LOL Looks like I'll need to find another way to increase capacity. Again, great video. Thanks.
@justinvardas8654
@justinvardas8654 3 ай бұрын
Same here. Did you end up finding a way?
@puffyd58
@puffyd58 3 ай бұрын
@@justinvardas8654 not really. But I do have a separate battery and solar panel. So I can get more power . . . just not in combination with the Bluetti.
@justinvardas8654
@justinvardas8654 3 ай бұрын
@puffyd58 I think I’ll end up trying the combination of an 8mm barrel plug pigtail connected to ring terminals to the expansion battery. No step up/boost converter for me though. I’m ok with the slower charge. My biggest concern was charging the expansion battery without “shore power”. I’m going to try the method recommended by reeway outdoors and plug a battery charger into the AC on my eb3a going to the expansion battery. I’m in the city so solar isn’t really an option for me. The way i described seems pretty simple with minimal DIY setup. We shall see
@bared60
@bared60 Жыл бұрын
great video ❤thanks, wish it worked for my eb3a, wonder if i use a 12v 50ah without a booster ,if that would do it
@board083
@board083 Жыл бұрын
You certainly can. I have this setup. You can bypass the booster, no problem. Plus you can always combine two 12V 50ah & get 24 (actually bit more, like 25.6 Volts) should you need the extra boost. I rather have two batteries, cheaper too for some reason, at 50ah than 100ah with a booster. Food for thought.
@hugofig31
@hugofig31 9 ай бұрын
I get 180-190 watts to my eco flow delta 2 using an xt60i cable hooked directly to a 100ah lifepo4 battery. No convertor needed.
@af1023
@af1023 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video, I have followed this path. While I was experimenting with my Ecoflow power stations and a Power Queen 100Ah battery, I built 2 10AWG cables from the battery to the Ecoflow unit. One cable had the regular yellow XT60 female connector, the second cable uses a XT60i orange female connector. The XT60 cable consistently delivered 102-105 watts to both the Delta Mini and River 2 Pro The XT60i cable delivered 168 watts to both units. I hope this helps, thank you very much.
@reese9276
@reese9276 7 ай бұрын
Your connection was directly from that battery to the River 2 Pro without the transformer? So this acts like "Pass Through" charging. As long as the output from the main battery doesn't exceed the incoming power, the main battery "remains" charged except for inverter loss? (YES...l'm a "Newbie")
@af1023
@af1023 7 ай бұрын
@@reese9276 Hi, the connection is directly from the battery to the Ecoflow units without a transformer, it is pass-through. I have tried a 12v-24v step up transformer and that yields better results but I'm always concerned about the heat buildup in the transformer, even of the transformer is rated for 20Amps. To avoid the power loss issues, my 12v batteries are configured for 24v output and also bought a 24v-50Ah QWW battery that offers excellent performance, I always use the XT60i connector. I hope this helps!
@reese9276
@reese9276 7 ай бұрын
@@af1023 Absolutely it helps. Thank YOU!
@josephmurolo5656
@josephmurolo5656 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Looking forward to using this technique with my Pecron E600 that’s currently in the mail! As you know it has a 1200 watt inverter but only a 600 watt battery. Adding a second battery might be ideal! So I guess I pickup a charge controller to harvest from my Pecron 300 solar panel (also in the mail) and use a voltage step-up to dump into the E600. Thanks!
@AdamNicholasSievers
@AdamNicholasSievers 11 ай бұрын
I have a power wheels adapter for my Bosch drill batteries, and use them to expand the capacity of my smaller solar gen in a pinch.
@NeoVdV
@NeoVdV Жыл бұрын
As for the Delta2, can't you do a DIY using the special port connection foreseen for extra battery ??
@elielavignedescoteaux7568
@elielavignedescoteaux7568 Жыл бұрын
I like this idea, would this work with 2 100ah battery, and let's say I want to charge the other way around , let say my power station is full , and want to top up my auxiliary battery, what would be the best way ...smart battery charger plug into the AC of the power station? Thinking to get the ac200p and add 2 of these 100 ah lithium.. any ideas would be great ...
@beachykeen95
@beachykeen95 Жыл бұрын
very interesting
@freelyroaming
@freelyroaming Жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting video.
@ReeWrayOutdoors
@ReeWrayOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Hey man! Your channel name piqued my interest so clicked on it to see if you post any content... Looks like we work with many of the same brands and you seem to have a TON of great content! I just subbed so I can remember to check some of your stuff out when I get a chance. There's another channel I've come across (Jasonoid) that did something very similar, but it seemed more complicated and I wanted to show something that did basically the same thing but less complicated. And pretty much within minutes of posting this video, it occurred to me (after someone raised a question about it) that there's an even easier way to do this using a 12V car socket - though it undoubtedly will produce a bit lower watt input in some power stations. I might need to do a part 2. :-/
@freelyroaming
@freelyroaming Жыл бұрын
@@ReeWrayOutdoors depends on the power station, just using a 12v socket won't limit the current and may overheat the wires or start melting the plastic. Using a current limited boost converter is safer and doesn't cost much more.
@aussiebillp
@aussiebillp 8 ай бұрын
Hey @reewray , I just purchased this battery and have ordered the Pecron 1500. Can I charge this battery from the dc outputs of the Pecron? Trying to avoid having to buy a 120v AC LifePO4 charger.
@PartyUpLive
@PartyUpLive 7 ай бұрын
Interesting idea. I'm currently trying to decide if I want to get the expansion battery for my Vtomam 1500Wh battery, or use my 500wh Blueitti to top, it off if/when I need to, since my 500wh battery can be charged easier while driving or via solar panels. My usage is either 3/4 day weekend road trips, and in the future, maybe 5/6 day trips/car camping.
@scottmurphy4946
@scottmurphy4946 6 ай бұрын
Damn VTOMAN external battery almost costs the same as the unit...
@franchellevanheerden
@franchellevanheerden Жыл бұрын
One thing i can't find on youtube is , can we have the (Kettle Cord) which comes from the wall plugged in along with this connector which is attached to battery? I want to expand the battery while it being plugged into the wall socket. Will it charge the extended battery? and will it automatically switch over from Wall socket input to Extended battery input?
@Frenchcrop
@Frenchcrop Жыл бұрын
Great idea. Presumably those units are relatively efficient, in terms of power losses, I wonder…
@kuhrd
@kuhrd Жыл бұрын
Efficiency claims on most of these units are around 95% which is probably close to correct from 20-95% load. It is hard to tell for sure without putting a few through some testing.
@jimm2442
@jimm2442 8 ай бұрын
How much current does it draw from the 12 volt source? Do you suppose that connecting the 24 volt output of this device to the input of a MPPT solar charge controller would work to charge a battery connected to the MPPT controller? I am thinking that this may be a way to charge my home built solar generators while driving via the cars 12 volt power socket. What are your thoughts? Thank you.
@JonathanYankovich
@JonathanYankovich Жыл бұрын
The ecoflow river’s battery expansion pack will both charge and discharge via the ecoflow. Everything I’ve seen with these addon is that they’re not automatically recharging, as with an internal addon battery. Is it possible to set it up so the river will charge the external when it’s attached to A/C, and discharge it when A/C is not connected?
@emonty62
@emonty62 Жыл бұрын
fricking cool!!!
@thehobotographer6860
@thehobotographer6860 Жыл бұрын
I have the delta pro , if I used the uxcell New Big-Size Waterproof DC 12V Step-Up to DC 48V 8A 384W Car Power Supply Module Voltage Booster Converter Regulator would it increase the input amount ? the Deltapro says it has a 1600 w input peak. Also I have two 205ah renogy batteries if I build two of those units and put one one each battery can I “Y” connect both of them to double the input amount?
@CMDRTeklow82
@CMDRTeklow82 5 ай бұрын
could you use two back up 12v Batteries connected to that step up converter? trying to maximize keeping a portable fridge going and some small fans while camping. but also this seems like alot less wires needed to be made then other DIY power stations
@truesight91
@truesight91 9 ай бұрын
I have a Bluetti eb55 but I am thinking about getting a 100Ah battery and 1000w power inverter so I can charge it while driving then use the stored power to charge my bluetti when needed through the AC charger which is fast and can dual charge with solar. Is this all I need or do I need something else? Excuse my lack of knowledge I am new to this. So wouldn't a power inverter make a dc charger obsolete in this case? or what is main differences? Thanks
@daviddrury9869
@daviddrury9869 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@ainttakenanyshit
@ainttakenanyshit 11 ай бұрын
Since you have a Vtoman Jump 1000 that uses this "same" VT60 connector for their external battery, have your tried to input the Jump 1000 external battery jack using the XT60 connector and see if you are able to use your own battery - 25.8 Volts - input to the Jump???? Thanks in advance for your testing this theory....
@xjidanx
@xjidanx 7 ай бұрын
i would of liked to see how much the power stations input wattage was without the step up converter. im guessing the river 2 is going to be about the same.
@MisterPikol
@MisterPikol 8 ай бұрын
What settings did you use for the vitoman ? Oh here's my concept idea, i dont wanma overvolt my vitoman, which can go upto 30v, not sure about amperage, no less than 7.5. Can i use this device directly with solar panels that will have a voltage in 50volts and about 9amps ?
@slavaartyukh4075
@slavaartyukh4075 8 ай бұрын
So with 12v Battery you need that converter . What happens if you use 24V 100Ah battery, do you need any devises in between battery and power station to regulate Amps or V, or you just plug it straight to battery?(I got vtoman jump 1800)
@ruudfalun
@ruudfalun 8 ай бұрын
Relatively cheap and easy expansion, thanks for the tip! One question though: How do you prevent the LFP battery from being fully emptied? The (solar) input port on the power station will allow current coming in until the voltage drops to below minimum, but with the step-up converter that results in
@ReeWrayOutdoors
@ReeWrayOutdoors 8 ай бұрын
This setup relies on the battery's BMS to cutoff discharge at the appropriate voltage. Some of these batteries even have Bluetooth and a mobile app that gives you some control over that cutoff threshold. But even without that, the standard BMS protection is usually just fine.
@ruudfalun
@ruudfalun 8 ай бұрын
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Even though BMS will protect the battery, you'll need to 'kickstart' it to come back online. Is there no relay that can switch of just before BMS does?
@googletitsfost
@googletitsfost Жыл бұрын
The first thing I thought of that you didn't mention was that if the power bank supports charging from 11v up why even use the converter? Just connect the battery as is. I've done that with my ups and it works fine. In fact the ups even charges the external battery when connected to the mains.
@archstone4622
@archstone4622 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Just connect the battery to the DC input and the time remaining jumps up due to the extra battery. That way you eliminate any power loss from the step- up device.
@MichaelAngeloTech
@MichaelAngeloTech 11 ай бұрын
The intelligent power stations will limit the 12V input because they have to assume the voltage is coming from a cigarette adapter like in your vehicle which are limited to 10amps. This would charge the power station very slowly at around 120 watts. If the voltage is “boosted” to 24volts or any higher voltage battery is used, the power station will sense the input and assume it is something like a solar panel and increase the allowed input current so you will charge the station much more quickly.
@Westcoastrocksduh
@Westcoastrocksduh 8 ай бұрын
@@MichaelAngeloTechthis depends on the system. I have a jackery and all dc inputs are the same. It guesses by the incoming watts what the source is and lights up the icon. It doesn’t regulate car adaptor vs solar etc…. I know this because I used a dc to dc to increase car charging.
@hugs_nicolle7263
@hugs_nicolle7263 4 ай бұрын
@@WestcoastrocksduhTy for the tips!
@hugs_nicolle7263
@hugs_nicolle7263 4 ай бұрын
@@MichaelAngeloTechTy very helpful!
@crissgen
@crissgen Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I have a bluetti eb55 with a 200 watts solar panel , I would like on day time ,to charge my lithium 12 volt battery, to use it as a backup
@ricardoh.3947
@ricardoh.3947 Жыл бұрын
love your videos, keep up the good work.
@ReeWrayOutdoors
@ReeWrayOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chrisandrews7518
@chrisandrews7518 12 күн бұрын
Have you consider using an ebike battery to charge these stations? I have a 52v 20ah battery with the xt60 connections.
@ff-mu6cc
@ff-mu6cc 6 ай бұрын
cool!
@chrislincoln489
@chrislincoln489 7 ай бұрын
Just watched your video now I have a question. I have two Marine 12 volt batteries can I use them to add power also.
@chadrogers3161
@chadrogers3161 Жыл бұрын
What would happen if you connected this to car battery in a car then started the car or used while car running? Is there any increase in voltage out of this device?
@enigmascape
@enigmascape 5 ай бұрын
The main advantage of the expansion battery on units that support them is that they are also charged off the same internal charger and solar panels. This idea is fine if you only need power to flow in 1 direction, otherwise you will need some method of charging the external battery either with seperate solar panels and an MPPT charge controller or some other external battery charger. I suppose you could connect a wall powered lifepo4 battery charger into the power station to keep the external battery charged up using the a/c output of the power station, or some sort of dc-dc charger that is under 10a running out of the cigarette lighter adapter on the power station. I might have to play with that and see what happens.
@justinvardas8654
@justinvardas8654 3 ай бұрын
This has been what I’ve been considering doing but haven’t found much information about it. Charging the expansion battery with a battery charger plugged into my power station that is plugged into the car cig charger. It seems like it would work but it’s hard to say. I do drive a lot too so even if it were slow charging I would be ok with it. I’m going to try it pretty soon. If you’ve tried it let me know what you’ve found please.
@nicolaihel9165
@nicolaihel9165 Жыл бұрын
I recently acquired a Pecron E2000 (LiFePo) and was looking at the larger Power Queen as an option for expansion instead of Pecrons new purpose made expansion batteries. It seems they still need to work out some glitches when using more than one of their batteries in series. Pecron has a dedicated, but somewhat proprietary connector for its expansion cable. Would really be interested in getting another set of eyes on a potential solution.
@garretthoefer3989
@garretthoefer3989 11 ай бұрын
I have the same question
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins 6 ай бұрын
The plug is not proprietary, it's 5 pin aviation IIRC.
@jeffmcclain
@jeffmcclain 7 ай бұрын
Just curious, but why wouldn't you just connect the 12v LiFePO4 directly to the XT-60i (for example) solar input on the Ecoflow (12.8v typical on these are well within the 11-60V)? Other than getting better charging watts from the higher voltage at 24V (or even 36-60V would be better), it should still charge quite well at around the 180W you are getting out of that boost converter (make SURE you use the ORANGE colored solar input XT-60i so it doesn't clamp you at the "car charger" 7A max). It would be much better to simply put 2 or 3 of these batteries in series to charge and get the full 500W (for the Ecoflow Delta 2) at any voltage >33v (other chargers may have a higher MPPT max current that could benefit more from 48v). Honestly, these DC boost converters tend to waste a lot of switching power in heat and even putting just two batteries in series (to operate at 24V) would be dramatically more efficient and faster on charging current and avoid one more complication. ?
@ursodermatt8809
@ursodermatt8809 7 ай бұрын
because it only put half the energy into the power station. they are limited by amps, so you get twice the energy if you double the voltage.
@jeffmcclain
@jeffmcclain 7 ай бұрын
@@ursodermatt8809Understood, but 12v @ the 15A of XT-60i is 180W, which is much more than the 125-150W from the boost converter (plus you lose soo much in heat doing the boost). And just putting two 12v batteries in series (or better 3 or a 48v server rack battery) would easily be far more current than those DC-DC boost and much much more efficient. That was all I simply don't understand why folks are spending money on very limited and inefficient converters when they could do it simpler.
@p.b.7861
@p.b.7861 6 ай бұрын
You are exactly correct. Much easier and cheaper do away with Just a cable with XT-60i to 12v-100Ah lithium lifepo4 battery is all you need ! No 12-24 booster needed at all. I have tested it last night. The Ecoflow Delta 2 would automatically takes a constant 15 amp incoming my was 173 out of 205watts( with 84% efficiency) with no heat loss but use 10 AWG will eliminate the heat loss and voltage drop from 12 awg Ecoflow cable.
@TravelwithDaySack
@TravelwithDaySack Ай бұрын
I have a Delta 2, if i get this setup, can i charge both batteries with the solar panel (229w)?
@MrKinser01
@MrKinser01 Жыл бұрын
i bought a vtoman 1400 for my daughter because of your recommendations the additional battery is more than the unit why do i need to step up the voltage can't i just Y the extra battery into the solar input .
@slytoes8023
@slytoes8023 6 ай бұрын
Hey man, I have an Iforway T-Rex HS2000 power station. It came without the internal swappable battery.. could I use this method to gain full functionality of the unit? It is rated 2000w with a peak of 4000w output. Is it feasible to utilize all those watts from externally set up batteries in the fashion you've shown in the video? Or would it only be able to consider the charge which is going into it? Could you make a video or explain how I could get my Iforway T-Rex HS2000 power station to utilize the power from external batteries without needing to purchase the branded ones? (Manufacturer is very difficult to communicate)
@takenusername
@takenusername 11 ай бұрын
Can you wire two of those batteries in series instead of using that other contraption? You’ll get 25v and won’t be limited to 120 watts.
@mggallerysansebastianshowr4693
@mggallerysansebastianshowr4693 Жыл бұрын
Wow. That's interesting to know. Just one question. Can I recharge this battery as well with any of my solar stations? 🤔 Thank you so much for all you do. Hugs from Spain
@ReeWrayOutdoors
@ReeWrayOutdoors Жыл бұрын
You can. The best way though is to get a LiFePO4 charger and plug it direct into your power station. This will ensure that your LiFePO4 battery can be charged fully (provided your Power Station has sufficient capacity) and is not over-charged. I'm actually starting work on a DIY video soon to show how you can build an inexpensive 'DC module' to attach to any 12V/24V battery and directly power DC devices (USB and 12V car connector) as well as add solar charging direct to your battery. Stay tuned for that. :)
@davelynn4993
@davelynn4993 Жыл бұрын
Would any of the power units take a charge directly from the 12V battery at a full 100A charge rate? What if you substituted a (higher priced) 24V PowerQueen battery and forego the step-up convertor? I would like to have longer run-time (at rated output) (something that the external vendor units provide. However, what you have set up is amazing and very useful. Thanks!
@ItsEverythingElse
@ItsEverythingElse Жыл бұрын
Only pretty large power stations can accept 1200W of DC input. And yes, a 24V Power Queen with 2560Wh would work very well with no converter!
@jeffmcclain
@jeffmcclain 7 ай бұрын
Most of the MPPT solar chargers are limited on power. The Ecoflow Delta 2, for example, is limited to a max of 500W (even though it is also rated at 60V @ 15A max, you are ALSO limited to 500W, not the 900W that 60v/15A would suggest).
@ilrichiamodellazolla
@ilrichiamodellazolla Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong. Your LifePO4 battery should have a floating voltage of 14.4V and powerstations usually require an input voltage of between 12V and 30V, so the DC-DC regulator should be something like this '8-40V to 13.8V 25A', as it slightly reduces the LifePO4 battery voltage to match the input voltage range of your powerstation. The DC-DC regulator you are using does not seem suitable.
@whatmattersmost6725
@whatmattersmost6725 Жыл бұрын
These are a DC-AC-DC inverter that takes a DC power and chops it up and then back to DC out. I expect on the power station is this device does not make a pure sine wave but modified sign wave that can cause issues.
@anthonyglaser929
@anthonyglaser929 12 күн бұрын
so if all of those power stations had a minimum of 12 volts do you really need the step up converter to 24 volts? And if you have 2 of those 12.8 volt batteries and you run them in series that would work as well right? or one 24 volt battery would work just as well?
@johnturner9561
@johnturner9561 4 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed your work, I came across your video the bluetti ac180 a short time ago on this system and purchased one. A great mid size unit,and after watching your video on using a 100ah battery to increase capacity I do have a question. Should I use a capacitor to perchance the ac180 before plugging in the cable to prevent the end rush voltage or will it be safe.
@smaxinfo
@smaxinfo 2 ай бұрын
Конденсаторы используются в преобразователях dc/dc. Они там уже есть в схеме. Мне известно что в bluetti в схемах внутри есть интеграция "медленный старт", по этому, вам ничего дополнительно придумывать не надо.
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 9 күн бұрын
No.
@analynquitolim9285
@analynquitolim9285 Жыл бұрын
I am planning to do this to my ac200p but one question what is the best charger for the battery
@Electronzap
@Electronzap Жыл бұрын
Yeah, should definitely use the solar power station as a starting point, then add capacity with battery banks and keep adding your options from there.
@blackimaje
@blackimaje Ай бұрын
could you use the 12-24 volt 20 amp 480 watt version for the delta ? wouldn't that drastically increase your input wattage for improved charging time? not sure why you would only use a 3 amp charger
@djr13099
@djr13099 Жыл бұрын
I have a 12v lithium ion phosphate battery and just with wiring and no step up, I can get 78 watts into my powerstation which has a 24v battery system inside. Just an fyi if going camping and trying to avoid all the extra pieces like a step up converter.
@Carlos-jh5tb
@Carlos-jh5tb Ай бұрын
Shouldn’t you add a relay and switch and a fuse? Does the dc/dc consume even while not plugged into the Blueetti?
@CraigslistResponse-zr9bd
@CraigslistResponse-zr9bd 3 ай бұрын
A few comments say hook up 2 batteries in series and on the ecoflow should get 360 watts, right? What about 3 batteries in series for 36v and get full 500w into delta 2?
@JustaCuriousity
@JustaCuriousity Жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for the information, i really need the cheaper expansion option. I wonder if i can use 100ah 48v lifepo4 for delta pro expansion?
@ReeWrayOutdoors
@ReeWrayOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Just looking at the Delta Pro Solar (DC) input specs, it shows 11-150V @ 15A. So I'd think as long as you put a 15A or 20A fuse on the POS lead between the 48V battery and the Delta Pro connection, it should work.
@surfx4804
@surfx4804 Жыл бұрын
I get 160w into my EB3A using this method, and the I used source is a cheap power station. I did have to put the EB3A in standard charge mode and the noise is the fan that comes on.
@ReeWrayOutdoors
@ReeWrayOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Nice! It actuality never occurred to me to check the charge mode on the EB3A! Good catch!
@bdmenne
@bdmenne 18 күн бұрын
QUESTION: How would I get 200 watts or more through same system, but for a medium Station like River 2 Pro (NO expansion battery for it)? Would a 200ah Battery deliver this? On the solar max wattage for it is 220 so. It can also handle 800 AC charging. Thanks
@anderspettersson4171
@anderspettersson4171 3 ай бұрын
I came across this while thinking of a UPS for my home server and finding out how expensive things from APC are while comparing capacity while a portable power station can double as a camping powerbank, a APC does not suit for that. Any idea of how to also combine the charging part of the expansion battery?
@gde-to-kogda-to6130
@gde-to-kogda-to6130 5 ай бұрын
Can i use 24 v battery directly on my power station, will be any harm ? thanks
@themachine8427
@themachine8427 9 ай бұрын
Can you not connect the battery to the expansion slot on the power station?
@Whillerz25
@Whillerz25 13 күн бұрын
Nice... I have a question, how would you prevent or monitor the discharge of the external battery? Is it safe to let it fully discharge?
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 9 күн бұрын
Buy one of the batteries that have Bluetooth.
@nunyabusinessfriend
@nunyabusinessfriend 8 ай бұрын
Is there a reason not to use a larger capacity version of the converter in this video to help with a faster charge? Thanks for this content!
@ReeWrayOutdoors
@ReeWrayOutdoors 8 ай бұрын
Not as long as the step up voltage does not exceed the input max on your power station's DC input spec.
@jeffmcclain
@jeffmcclain 7 ай бұрын
...you mean like just directly connecting the LiFePO4 battery to the solar inputs? Better, put 4 of the batteries in 48V config and direct connect.
@smarties2k
@smarties2k 6 ай бұрын
Can I use 12V TO 24V 15a 360W DC-DC Step Up DC Converter on Ecoflow River 2 Pro?
@sgtusmcarch
@sgtusmcarch 10 ай бұрын
can I charge the battery with an MPPT controller using solar, while the power station is hooked up to it?
@pierrebonin5384
@pierrebonin5384 9 ай бұрын
😅that's a great idea. The fact is that I know nothing about batteries....so my question is; how can I recharge the expansive batterie? Thank you for your answers.
@thecaribbean8615
@thecaribbean8615 24 күн бұрын
Two 12V batteries in series instead - less lossy? fuse?
@M9A1MAN
@M9A1MAN Жыл бұрын
Just curious why couldn’t you just go straight from 12v battery to the generator if it’s meant to take in 12v? Why the need for step up? Thanks
@Pessel-99
@Pessel-99 12 сағат бұрын
Is a 3 amp converter enough for this?
@douglaswindsor120
@douglaswindsor120 Жыл бұрын
This battery would work great with the natures generator solar generator. I would love to see someone do a proper review of nature's generator just think a 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter for under two thousand dollars
@asabatelli1
@asabatelli1 7 ай бұрын
I set up everything exactly as you did with my EcoFlow Delta 2 and KiloVault lifepo4 battery. It went from 73% to 94% at just over 200 watts. Then it stopped. I discharged the EcoFlow 2 to 39% and tried again, but nothing. I put a little charge on the KiloVault battery in case the BMS had shut it down. Rechecked all connections but still nothing. Is it possible the 12-24 unit just died? It was fairly warm when it was working. Any thoughts appreciated. I may also try with a 12 to 36 or 48v, since it has a 60v max for solar input. Any thoughts appreciated.
@ReeWrayOutdoors
@ReeWrayOutdoors 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I'd check the output on that step-up converter with a multi-meter and see if it is working or not.
@commodore1979
@commodore1979 Күн бұрын
My power stations dc input states 12 to 60 volts so I should be able to use a 12v to 48v step up yea?
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