Super Electronics Troubleshooter- Working On Hybrid Technology And Not Destroying It

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Mr Carlson's Lab

6 жыл бұрын

In this video, learn how to avoid some traps in troubleshooting that will destroy what you are working on. This is a common mistake that few know about. We will follow the audio signal path through tube and solid state technology together. Lots of tips and tricks along the way as well.

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@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
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@krishna34674
@krishna34674 6 жыл бұрын
why did you delete your reply's to my comment ?
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Omsonic. I could write a book in reply to your original statement, a few words in reply is simply not enough, and could be misleading to others.
@krishna34674
@krishna34674 6 жыл бұрын
Ok yeah fair enough haha, It is a somewhat counter-intuitive phenomenon.
@emilianoromero951
@emilianoromero951 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Carlson can you fix my electronic components please ? I stay in the state of Texas but I can ship them to you no problem just let me know where to ship them to please.
@doubaird7982
@doubaird7982 3 жыл бұрын
I really wish I had discovered your channel sooner, Right now I an on chemo for liver and colon cancer but will survive it if I can do it but nonetheless, will enjoy for now and if I survive will take this part of the hobby up again, Please keep doing wat you are doing and thanks Doug
@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy
@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy 5 жыл бұрын
So great that there are no jump cuts, no crummy background music, just clear patient presentation
@bcarr3116
@bcarr3116 6 жыл бұрын
Special thanks for making this video as I have a Legend 30. It has not work in years. I tried to fix it and gave due to time restrictions. I might after watching this video might try it again. Jeff Healy played this when he was in my studio in Vancouver BC in 1987. So it is special to me. Jeff passed in 2008 but his style of playing lives on in KZbin. Thanks again B
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story!
@RockDrillSuite
@RockDrillSuite 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear a story regarding Jeff playing in your studio. He was an amazing player, just incredible. Thanks
@landonrobinson8223
@landonrobinson8223 4 жыл бұрын
The late Jeffrey Healey was an astounding musician who I feel left us way too soon, although I don't live anywhere near Vancouver B.C. it would be an honor to help you get that amplifier working again.
@knottreel
@knottreel 5 жыл бұрын
You are a natural born teacher. I've been troubleshooting for a lot of years but I always learn something new from your channel.
@beamfinder8336
@beamfinder8336 6 жыл бұрын
never thought of the charge that's kept in the DC blocking caps. now it's so obvious. many thanks from germany!
@233kosta
@233kosta 5 жыл бұрын
I never did either (kind of new to electronics anyway, my main gig is thermo/fluid dynamics), but when I read my scope's user and servicing manuals - there it was in bold letters: "Switching the coupling mode selector to ground will drain the AC coupling capacitor". It even has the resistance and capacitance values printed right on the case, next to each input.
@werner.x
@werner.x 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know either. Or i tend to stop overthinking at some point and just start doing. And the coupling capacitor is one of the small details prone to get overlooked in the big picture. Bang. Things are going Electroboom. Who would have guessed that there may be a need to read the manual on such a simple thing as an analog scope. That's not manly ;)
@audiotechlabs4650
@audiotechlabs4650 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Carlson, I consider you a genius! Your confidence is overwhelming. You are a geek's geek! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. I am in a financially challenged situation and would like to become a patron but cannot. For you to share videos with non-patron viewers is tremendous. Thank you and I will be looking forward to your next KZbin post. I have an 70s Peavey PA head that works but is noisy, crackling and hiss and would like to repair it. Maybe sometime in the future make a video on noisy ICs or transistors and how to repair them. Thanxz
@oldestgamer
@oldestgamer 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, being a tech is a financially-challenged job, just check out Mark @ Blueglow to get another perspective on why there are no techs, and more importantly, why there is no money in fixing electronics!
@oldestgamer
@oldestgamer 4 жыл бұрын
@Dave Micolichek that is true, however I have found on older equipment that just fixing the problem often leads to call backs and the customer wants you to eat that time and cost.
@arsimahmetaj6272
@arsimahmetaj6272 6 жыл бұрын
I am learning so much from your videos , thank you keep them coming , your friends from New York City
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Arsim!
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Carlson makes it so easy to understand!
@ZZTOPSALL
@ZZTOPSALL 5 жыл бұрын
Thanx very much. Have worked in electronics for many years mostly with tv and vcr. The tip you gave about the coupling with the scope is priceless.
@michor10
@michor10 6 жыл бұрын
You bring so much knowledge to the world, Mr. Carlson. I go on a journey on each one of these videos!
@GM-vk8jw
@GM-vk8jw 3 жыл бұрын
It didn’t take me long to subscribe and it didn’t take me long to join your Patreon. I’m learning so much from you and others like you that are sharing skills and knowledge for the price of a cup of coffee. I’m so grateful 🙏
@paulcollins664
@paulcollins664 6 жыл бұрын
That's a great video Paul, I think grounding the probe, is the best bit of advice I've heard in a long time, it's now written on a piece of card above me at the bench, probably just good practice all the time working on any thing, Thank You. Paul
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Paul!
@Jvavolerpareil
@Jvavolerpareil 6 жыл бұрын
On my Tektronix scope, I got a momentary push button on the probes especially to ground the hot lead. Very convenient!
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jvavolerpareil , If you forget to CHECK THE PUSH BUTTON every once in a while, you may regret it! I'm suggesting that you could short out something you really didn't want to short out IF the failure mode was a shorted switch.
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 4 жыл бұрын
@Dave Micolichek . Actually, no. I'm suggesting that you could short out something you really didn't want to short out IF the failure mode was a shorted switch.
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n 6 жыл бұрын
I'm an electrician and have been working in electronics for a while and just recently started repairing tube amps, and hybrid amps, and electric guitars. So this is good stuff! I knew about meters carrying a charge when testing caps, but not tubes. It makes sense that the meter would apply voltage but wow! that's a lot!.
@BetamaxFlippy
@BetamaxFlippy 6 жыл бұрын
Man I'm waiting for you to restore a Hammond organ, I'd LOVE to see you bring one back to life and improved!
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 5 жыл бұрын
Betamax Flippy , Sounds like a project which has a high amount of non-electronics related content... where you have to know some organ theory as well to appreciate the video. Hope to see a video on the subject!
@denniswalsh8476
@denniswalsh8476 4 жыл бұрын
Rebuilding a Hammond tone (wheel) generator and its vibrato scanner is no small task. Lots of info on-line.... but not easy in any way.
@BigLarry1950
@BigLarry1950 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely enjoy your videos. Brings back memories when I worked on aircraft electronics in the US Air Force in the 1970's. Oh yes, some of the technology was vacuum tubes. This was the APN-59 radar systems prior to converting them to solid state circuits.
@MWSRD
@MWSRD 5 жыл бұрын
I now know that it's so important to learn how to read and follow any diagrams you get as it can easily throw you off. I struggle to follow the circuits printed on a page and what it actually looks like. Many thanks love the lab!
@arnoldflippen3250
@arnoldflippen3250 5 жыл бұрын
He is a outstanding teacher. Wish he were my teacher back in the day. Please continue to spread your God given gift.
@kstinson
@kstinson 6 жыл бұрын
I signed up for the Patreon page. Just the tools alone you can build make it worth it. The additional content though is invaluable if you like hobby electronics and repairing older equipment.
@guitarman_3693
@guitarman_3693 2 жыл бұрын
such great knowledge !!! thank you. i have a late 90's Crate amp that sounded great but one day i was playing & the sound volume just started to slowly decrease, just like you was gently turning the vol. pot. to 1. when the volume went low, it didnt go silent, i could hear the guitar, but very faint. now, if i turned the amp mains AC off, and came back later or the next day, it would power up , and play normally . but after about 15 min. the sound would slowly fade, just as before... keep in mind that i love the sound/tone this amp has, so i didnt give up... after checking the fuse had continuity, i came back once a week & would turn it on & try different things ,such as; used a different guitar, cord & played without the onboard DSP , next time i used no Dist/OD. the amp has 3 channels. i would play on each one at different volume levels. i was relentless in my hopes that the amp wasnt ruined & i had lost my $500 investment. after a few months, kinda giving up on it, when the volume faded, i angrily gave the top of the housing a "whack" with the side of my fist.. not real hard . AND the volume instantly resumed . but after 5-10 min. it would fade out again. another fist bump & it worked then fade. after a few times of that, im thinking a loose connection. so i gathers my tools & gently opened it up, visual inspection= no burned componets or PCB's , no swollen or leaking Caps , i made sure all jacks & pots were tightened. what i could see looked ok. but it had ribbon connectors to outboard PCB's and to get to the underside to look for lifted solder pads was gonna be more involved that i felt capable to do. the amp is a Crate GLX212 . i still have it & it will still sound great for 15 min. i stopped the fist bump... i wish you was local & i could afford to pay you to diagnose it & possibly repair.. i think it is fully SS. i didnt see any tubes. sorry for the long comment, i did say i love this amp & i havent found any helpful info until i seen your vid of guitar amps.. thanks again
@VirgilSeaberIII
@VirgilSeaberIII 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Carlson, I'm learning so much from your teaching, especially the "traps", like always discharging your probe before checking an IC. Also, I actually know why I'm building a kit oscilloscope now! Thank You!
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Virgil!
@timthompson468
@timthompson468 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I started in electronics back in 1980 in the USMC. In all these years, I’ve never come across your tip on charging up the probe coupling cap. That was a very interesting demonstration. I’m curious, what is the maximum dc voltage you would measure with a 10x or 1x oscilloscope probe? Do you go strictly by the rating of the probe and scope input? I’m always paranoid about blowing out the input to a scope, so I bought some diff probes (20/200x) and a HV probe (1000x) for working on tube circuits, but I’m thinking that’s probably overkill. My scopes say 300 or 400V peak, but for some reason, I wouldn’t feel comfortable applying that much voltage directly to the inputs.
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Thompson , If it isn't a modern scope, buy new probes to stay safe. The requirements on new gear is tighter for user safety than some old probes.
@johncantrell614
@johncantrell614 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing with us. I am more of an electrician, so these things help me to expand my knowledge in an area that I know a little about, but could use more in. Thanks again!
@billswaim
@billswaim 6 жыл бұрын
Your knowledge and presentation are amazing. As usual, thanks for sharing!! Love the tube amp related videos.
@mariofabrizi5050
@mariofabrizi5050 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the chip you pull at 32:45 is the legendry RC4558 chip used in the first version of the Ibanez TS808 Tube screamer, amazing! The guitar nerds will know what I'm talking about.
@dasworkshop4967
@dasworkshop4967 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual. I f I were to add one thing, that would have been to DC couple the scope and show the AC portion riding atop. Drive it hard and watch how the AC fills more and more of the DC span. Thank you for sharing.
@michaelwolak3098
@michaelwolak3098 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your channel I didn’t know about the hybrid trick of discharging your scope before working on the solid state Mike
@CharlesM-dp4xe
@CharlesM-dp4xe 4 жыл бұрын
Ah Hahhh ... a light at the end of the tunnel ! Very valuable info. All these years and I never knew the probes stored a charge. I feel stupid now but somewhat enlightened. I'm no engineer, no secret there. That little gem is worth a paycheck alone ! Thanks a million.
@DonBonin
@DonBonin 6 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying being a Mr Carlson Patreon! Great content, Paul. I'd recommend others to give it a try - there are various levels you can choose from to fit your needs. Supporting this really awesome channel and teacher has, for me at least, been a wonderful return on investment. Highly recommended!
@sailfishssr5722
@sailfishssr5722 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, Just another epiphany, Destroying components, while troubleshooting.
@YeeThirty
@YeeThirty 6 жыл бұрын
Yo the wood on that cabinet is beautiful! Thanks again for all the tips! The $2 is totally worth it.
@highseassailor
@highseassailor 6 жыл бұрын
Knowledge is most powerful when shared freely. Cheers for the upload, you're a true scholar.
@danielepatane3841
@danielepatane3841 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for your tec tips every video I watch from you is a new lesson thanks for your time!
@myfastcars
@myfastcars 6 жыл бұрын
I admire your knowledge and professionalism! Very nice overview and lesson.
@TheRadioShop
@TheRadioShop 6 жыл бұрын
Another great troubleshooting tip Paul. Thanks for sharing.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by Buddy!
@jameskrivitsky9715
@jameskrivitsky9715 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. You likely will save me and others from ignorantly destroying components. Keep these type of precautions videos coming. J K
@yusdiy
@yusdiy 6 жыл бұрын
I just successfully repaired one amp after blowing up 99 guitar amps prior. I just found out 99 ways how not to repair an amp. Thank you sir. Keep up the good videos.
@oneandonlyescaton9927
@oneandonlyescaton9927 4 жыл бұрын
That's the attitude that leads to success. May I recommend growing weed and killing 99 plants. Meeting 100 people and letting 99 of them down in some way. I do not recommend using this strategy for raising children though. Probably wanna kill 99 health class babies b4 having a kid.
@WV591
@WV591 6 жыл бұрын
Good thing you are honest. I know few techs who would claim the amp couldnt be fixed and it would have to be trashed. They would offer to buy it for parts then fix it and sell it.
@AC9BXEric
@AC9BXEric 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Ah yes, the venerable 4558, those are everywhere, along with younger siblings the 4559 & 4560. Depending on the architecture a solid state amplifier can run full blast into an open. Since they're mainly current amplifiers without a load they don't dissipate much power. As long as it's stable, no oscillations or nonsense, it'll just sit there. Another choice for either glass or silicon is a moderate load. One could test with something like 800 Ohms. With tubes you can drive it a bit harder than into an open but still have decent sensitivity for delicate measurements.
@alfredneumann4692
@alfredneumann4692 5 жыл бұрын
I have found simply wax in many devices against shattering and so. In warm environments works well. And thankyou for bringing back my memory about this discharging the probe before fumbling in the ICs or transistors. In the 80s we hat to look for this. 73 from Germany.
@jeffkablock3229
@jeffkablock3229 Жыл бұрын
My hats of to you sir your are good at electronics i learned from the USCG love the way you work !
@GlennMarshallRocks
@GlennMarshallRocks 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not trained in electronics, but I've been watching your videos, hoping to learn something about how amplifiers and the components within them work, and I'm finding your videos very interesting and informative. I have a question - I've heard you mention how there's a difference between how an electronic technician and a musician look at their amplifiers. The last time I brought my, what I believe is an all-tube amp (a Dean Markley Signature Series CD-60 Combo) to someone for repair, he swapped out the 8 ohm speaker that was in it and put a 16 ohm speaker in it instead. When I asked why he did that when I went to retrieve the amp, I was told because he "liked the way it looked on the scope better". What I have always wondered since then is, is it safe to change back to an 8 ohm speaker (as the speaker output jack is labeled that the amp was designed for), and was this just a case of him looking at the amplifier from a technicians point of view, judging by what his equipment was showing him...? or would the amp, as he claimed, be more "unstable" if I were to put an 8 ohm speaker back in it...? I'd be interested to hear what your thoughts might be on this...
@dougankrum3328
@dougankrum3328 6 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1970's I worked on a lot of TTL logic, no high voltage problems like this, but the TTL was +5V, and there was also + and -15 Volts for Op-Amps...we had these clips you used on the 8-14,16 pin DIPS that looked sort of like a big clothespin...it got the pins spread out and helped prevent shorting when probing around.... When I first started that job-1970, we were still using Simpson 260's but soon progressed to Tek-Tronics scopes ...There was 90 volts and 120 volts DC for the X-Y-Z axis drive motors on the NC machines, but pretty well spaced away from other components...lots of General Electric systems. Still all those voltages appeared on the same PC boards.
@regortex3364
@regortex3364 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Legend amp sitting in storage, can’t wait to go through it. I just sub’d and liked, you have a new fan. 10/10
@inductorbackemf7204
@inductorbackemf7204 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul thanks for the great tips as always! Have a safe and great day friend. Alex.
@233kosta
@233kosta 5 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that on some scopes (such as my Tek 2225) switching the coupling selector to "GND" (which grounds the input) will drain that capacitor (at least according to the manual). Tektronix even had the foresight to put the ground selection between AC and DC coupling on the same switch. Trap for young players I guess
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about scope probes "storing charge". VERY helpful.
@garyeggleton1142
@garyeggleton1142 6 жыл бұрын
The JRC 4558 is the famous tube screamer chip , found in the TS 808 overdrive pedal. Nice video.
@petroldevo9934
@petroldevo9934 6 жыл бұрын
So what he's saying is the quality of a Legend is just a Legend?....
@skycarl
@skycarl 6 жыл бұрын
This is such a good tip. Thanks as always Paul,,, good stuff.
@benperry490
@benperry490 5 жыл бұрын
really am digging your channel, please more musical equipment repairs! As an amateur musician/guitarist and at home recording engineer LOL who isn't these days, right? I use so many electronic devices every day, I am so ready to learn to repair or modify/build my own equipment ( Fender Bassman tube guitar amp clone ;)) last month I took in my guitar effects/amp digital modeling device (helix) for repair and was told the wait was at least two months or longer to get it back if they could find the issue and then get the parts and repair it, that is another reason why I am signing up for your course through patreon but my big issue is I have a condition called essential tremor meaning my hands can shake slightly to very badly when I actively use the muscles which makes fine handwork like soldering nearly impossible at times or using small screwdrivers etc. Do you have any ideas of what I could use to help with this? In my day job, I am an aerospace manufacturing engineer specializing in advanced composite materials I don't have trouble in my work which is mainly on a computer typing albeit slowly and at times not very accurate but I manage to get the work done and still can kick out some jams on my electric guitar
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, and welcome. Resting your hand on a small wooden block (to elevate it) while soldering helps with the shake. So picture holding the iron handle like a pen in your hand, then resting your hand elevated on that block.
@tabaccopuro
@tabaccopuro 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. I might just learn something....
@bergarteric5713
@bergarteric5713 4 жыл бұрын
Mister thanks for the tips !!! oh yeah it's a gold nugget .... Never before i'm hearing that and now i'm sure about AC and DC discharging on the ground by the probe !!! good day for you .... and Happy new year mister Eric from France.
@wadehicks9270
@wadehicks9270 6 жыл бұрын
Your an awesome teacher Sir
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as always...such good information delivered well :) Thank you for all your work & sharing of your skill set.
@mrwebman1
@mrwebman1 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Do you plan on doing a video on troubleshooting a DC coupled guitar amp? Discrete DC coupled bipolar transistor amps are especially difficult to diagnose because an issue in a previous stage can upset a later stage to the point that the later stage will burn out, etc.
@williamarchibald7629
@williamarchibald7629 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your time and sharing of your knowledge.
@Jvavolerpareil
@Jvavolerpareil 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very clear explanation like all your videos! I have a question for you: Sometimes I fix old audio gear. I am thinking about replacing all OP amps with newer ones, especially when the old ones are 741 that where fine in the 70's, but are considered crappy sounding and noisy today. If I look at the data sheets to find OP amps that as a higher slew rate, lower noise and is internally compensated for unity gain, can I be sure that the circuit will not get into oscillation?
@nikoladivic2786
@nikoladivic2786 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you from Croatia, very nice !!!!!
@ignacioanaya3403
@ignacioanaya3403 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, I am going to build the discharge capacitor from patreon now!
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
Great!
@topfuel29channel
@topfuel29channel 6 жыл бұрын
This Channel is "Awesome"!!
@steveseifer6784
@steveseifer6784 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting that the scope probe holds the HV charge from the vacuum tube plate and must be grounded before probing a semi conductor component. Is there that much of a reason to build hybrid circuits in the first place? How old were you when you became interested in electronics. I was about 4 when I stuck a flashlight bulb into a light bulb socket and a big spark turned my fingernail black.
@retrocomputeruser
@retrocomputeruser 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent tutorial and advice Paul. I would like to ask if you forget to ground the probe after checking the V-tube, could this dangerous charge carry to other channels of a scope or are they insulated ?
@gyrgrls
@gyrgrls 6 жыл бұрын
I noticed that spring reverb unit is nearly identical to the ones used in the Hammond console organs - mainly the earlier A, B, and C series models. In fact, it reminds me of my last teardown of a C3G console.
@undercrackers56
@undercrackers56 6 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! I would not want to be sitting in your chair when those shelf brackets give up.
@abscomm
@abscomm 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information Paul, thank you for sharing. Would it be correct to say that it would be a good practice to always ground out your scope probe before putting it to a different point? I know it's not always necessary but if you developed that habit, can you think of a situation where it would NOT be a good thing to do?
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
Hi John. It definitely couldn't hurt.
@paulrs2975
@paulrs2975 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You! I would not have thought of the AC coupled scope
@tsmupdatertsm7633
@tsmupdatertsm7633 6 жыл бұрын
(Golden Nugget Rule) Where gets the charge stored ? In the probes ? Does this always happen ? Should you every time short your probes when you switch from highvoltage to lowvoltage components ? This was a too short explanation. Thank you so much for creating those videos !
@thysonsacclaim
@thysonsacclaim 4 жыл бұрын
It gets stored in a capacitor inside the scope, which is what he said.
@antraciet
@antraciet 6 жыл бұрын
What an interesting video ! Thank you a lot.
@Gordonseries385
@Gordonseries385 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Paul, enjoyed your presentation.
@jimle22
@jimle22 6 жыл бұрын
It's Paul Carlson
@Gordonseries385
@Gordonseries385 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that and thank you for letting me know.
@vicmiller7191
@vicmiller7191 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Fine Sir. I always learn things frome these videos
@adventurebloc
@adventurebloc 6 жыл бұрын
You mention the benefit of silicone as an electronics friendly and non oxidizing adhesive. Which specific brands do you recommend for this application?
@jjo5917
@jjo5917 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Carlson, I'm something of a tube guitar amp nut. When I replace Fender (Mallory) filter caps in amps from the 1960s, the old ones very often measure close to twice their rated capacity with zero ESR. Are they really acting as capacitors of those readings or is there something else going on? I ask because my favorite amp "seems" to sound more sterile since replacing the filter and bypass caps throughout. All were dated 1964 and they all read 50~85% higher capacitance than labeled. Many thanks for your opinion on this. I would expect a change in the tone/sound, but surprised that it might be a less desirable tone after doing reasonable maintenance. Thanks
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
Hi J Jo. Capacitor meters use time to measure capacitance. If a capacitor is leaky, it takes more time to charge (because of the theoretical resistor in parallel with it.) More time to charge will give you a higher capacitance reading. (a false reading) ESR meters are usually used for larger value electrolytic capacitors, not paper or poly types.
@allenh118
@allenh118 4 жыл бұрын
The late 70's and 80's saw a push by the industry to get musicians to accept solid state amplifiers. This saw some degree of success by companies like ROLAND and PEAVEY especially in jazz and country music where a clean tone was needed. But despite years and years of engineering , marketing, and return trips to the drawing board, solid state amps have never achieved the status of tube amps in rock music. Randall is the only manufacture to have major touring rock acts use solid state amps (a few exceptions not withstanding) Hybrid amps were an attempt to approve the tone by either making the preamp tube (like LEGEND and some MUSIC MAN) or making the power amp tube section tube (like the PEAVEY Classic). Point is solid state sections are widely recognized as a trade off in tone for a lower price and higher reliability in rugged applications. I have NEVER heard a musician say he chose a solid state amp for the harsh distortion tone! Great cleans? maybe (PEAVEY Renown series - ROLAND Jazz Chorus)
@gamlemann53
@gamlemann53 6 жыл бұрын
Very Nice video again!! The best from Oslo Norway!
@lroy730
@lroy730 6 жыл бұрын
The RC4558 is a G.P Opamp . The TL072 has lower noise.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
You are correct.
@timstanford3220
@timstanford3220 5 жыл бұрын
I like the TLO72 vs RC4558 or 4560 .
@ForViewingOnly
@ForViewingOnly 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, could you talk more about the use of contact cleaner (27:53) in potentiometers? I was looking into doing this on scratchy pots a few years ago, and as usual on the internet, everybody had an opinion on what product to use, and whether it was a good idea to use solvent when there might be grease inside the pot. Some said that any benefit would only be temporary. Could you comment on your experience with this? I appreciate that you might not want to get into contact cleaner brand names. Thanks!
@TheMonkeyFarted
@TheMonkeyFarted 6 жыл бұрын
I have used a couple different brands of contract cleaner. One is the Radio Shack brand. Good luck finding it now! The other is a CG Electronics Deoxit spray (Not the DeOxit brand). It works pretty well. I haven't had any issues with any of the sprays being temporary. They have all lasted since I used them. You have to leave the potentiometer for quite a long time for it to return to how it used to be. The reason it gets scratchy is the build up of dirt and other junk that should not be in there. The spray just helps to clean it out. That's why you have to turn the control too! It really is not complicated. People just bicker on the internet for no reason because I heard this or that 40 years ago! Just get a good brand like CG Electronics or DeOxit for instance and use it!
@brentblake8306
@brentblake8306 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMonkeyFarted Hi, the contacts and carbon oxidizes ,not really dirt at all,but good advice.
@swillswill
@swillswill 6 жыл бұрын
You've piqued my curiosity about the probe charge. Is this charge within the probe itself, internal to the scope or perhaps a bit of both? I wonder now if you could dc couple the signal with the scale set appropriately. Would the scope trace the discharge when you ground the probe? I'm unclear as to how you would trigger it. Maybe it needs a storage or recording scope to capture it?
@omtech
@omtech 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know what you use as a contact cleaner? I have a Dynaco SE10 equalizer with very noisy sliding pots.
@morpher44
@morpher44 3 жыл бұрын
other videos you test the radio. On this one I kinda expected you to attach an electric guitar and demonstrate the reverb at high volume.
@solarcrystal5494
@solarcrystal5494 3 жыл бұрын
you say the distortion the amp makes is a harsh sound, but i think the technical term for it is a kickass sound
@georgekoerner6591
@georgekoerner6591 2 жыл бұрын
Great troubleshooting information
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@userPrehistoricman
@userPrehistoricman 6 жыл бұрын
39:52 Teased so many times... and finally the release.
@oldestgamer
@oldestgamer 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, this is waaay to long-winded explanation, probably for non-techs as a real tech would have fixed this in half the time of the video!
@userPrehistoricman
@userPrehistoricman 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe. I thought he was going to talk about probe capacitance ever since the beginning and I wanted to see if I was right.
@Rico_G
@Rico_G 6 жыл бұрын
You're assuming the majority of so-called "amp techs" actually know how to use an oscilloscope. :-)
@deadfreightwest5956
@deadfreightwest5956 6 жыл бұрын
They are the four thumbs down, lol.
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, be nice to me. I have had plenty of success repairing amps and didn't need to get the scope out. Sometimes the problem is obvious.
@oldestgamer
@oldestgamer 6 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth!
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 5 жыл бұрын
@@DeadKoby , The trick is... obvious to YOU, but inscrutable to many people.
@timstanford3220
@timstanford3220 5 жыл бұрын
I too , am a amp tech. I've been approached by Peavey to become a "Peavey repair center " for Peavey. But the other amp techs here where I live do not want me to pursue that endeavor . Why ? They say that Peavey won't pay as much . When a tech can can charge 60.00 to 80.00 bucks an hour on his own. And Peavey won't pay near that much to service their gear. But still , would it be conducive to pursue that option . I would like some input from other amp techs out there to see what direction I should go. Should I be a service center for Peavey....or not.
@seanpurdy4480
@seanpurdy4480 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know the complete history of the Legend amps but I do know Billy gibbons used one on the Eliminator album. There very loud and well built amps
@LoMe64
@LoMe64 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of contact cleaners contain very aggressive acids in order to do their job. It's always a very good idea to wash the parts after cleaning with an adequate liquid. The manufacturers of contact cleaners themselves recommend this. Leaving the acid on the cleaned parts will eat them up in very little time.
@phillipyannone3195
@phillipyannone3195 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another excellent video.
@VideoServicesLI
@VideoServicesLI 3 жыл бұрын
You mention using a signal generator to test with scope. How was the sig generator connected up to amp?
@petersage5157
@petersage5157 6 жыл бұрын
What about the metal cans in the middle of the chassis? Are those voltage regulators? I know a few people who have built their own guitar amps with oddball valves (common and cheap enough because they were pulled from old TVs and radios), but how often do you encounter a commercial guitar amp with anything other than jellybean valves and op amps with standard pinouts?
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 6 жыл бұрын
thanx for sharing any explanation as to why or what causes the scope to charge like a capacitor
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard. There is a capacitor in series with the hot lead of the probe inside the scope. This capacitor is used for AC coupling.
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 6 жыл бұрын
thanx for the reply i'll have to dig into this more closely. i expect that when the scope is set at dc it is either switched out of the circuit or into parallel?
@datacreed
@datacreed 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I remember All Electronics selling those mechanical reverb units in the mid 80s for a short time. Never ordered one though. :/
@royelectrotechnic8711
@royelectrotechnic8711 6 жыл бұрын
Totally great video! Can I ask something, In the previous video 6L6 tube has a coil stopper, why this amplifier did not? Thanks Mr Paul.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Roy, there are no 6L6's in this amplifier. Those stoppers are used in the output section only, and this amp has a solid state output.
@royelectrotechnic8711
@royelectrotechnic8711 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrCarlsonsLab I see. Thanks mr Paul.
@gregsmith2262
@gregsmith2262 6 жыл бұрын
That just makes sense, thank you kind sir for sharing!
@parapos
@parapos 6 жыл бұрын
another great video,as usual...!!!!
@haledmondson2756
@haledmondson2756 6 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me what type of diode I would need to install a signal light buzzer on my wife's Triumph motorcycle. I have a beeper from a Honda Goldwing, they used a double pole relay. I need a diode to control a load of 2 12v 3-5 w bulbs. The diodes are needed to keep the voltage from feeding back up the wires to the opposite signals, that would make them 4way flashers. Sorry it's not a electronic question but I need info on what I have to find....Hal
@electron-1979
@electron-1979 6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have expected Mr Carlson to have unshined shoes ;)
@richysradioroom
@richysradioroom 6 жыл бұрын
Such good stuff. I challenge the sad people who gave this a thumbs down to do better than this.
@Captofthisship
@Captofthisship 5 жыл бұрын
Do you actually need a capacitor discharger or could you just unplug the unit and power it on/off a couple times ?
@_majortom_
@_majortom_ 6 жыл бұрын
this is gold. thank you.
@glenngoodale1709
@glenngoodale1709 6 жыл бұрын
BRAVO, well done!!!!!!
@tanaseav
@tanaseav 6 жыл бұрын
@Mr Carlson's Lab are you a professor? or do you teach a class or something in real life?
@Vinster411
@Vinster411 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. Great Info.
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