SUPER IN-DEPTH Neural DSP Omega Granophyre vs Fortin Nameless - Is Fortin Still King?

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Keyan Houshmand Live

Keyan Houshmand Live

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@shostly
@shostly 4 жыл бұрын
Man, these details you tell us about your chain and dialing process is a treasure. Thank you and keep doing awesome content.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it man, happy to help
@CheloWiiU
@CheloWiiU 3 жыл бұрын
Funny, in this video Keyan implies to Neural DSP to send them early products for reviews, and today for January 2021, he got an early copy of Archetype Gojira and he made an amazing review 🤘🤘😎
@Icipher4
@Icipher4 4 жыл бұрын
Nameless without external IR sounds the best by far to me.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
I dig it too
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@kaceemmett6107 3 жыл бұрын
@Caden Shepherd Instablaster ;)
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@itaxevasixn8808
@itaxevasixn8808 4 жыл бұрын
That granophyre sounds abysmal. I love it.
@flame4928
@flame4928 4 жыл бұрын
for 7 string I would go with nameless, but most of the time I play in drop B or drop C and with that, omega just sounds way better, less harshness in high-end.
@VanjaSpirin
@VanjaSpirin 3 жыл бұрын
words of wisdom
@MaestroJericho
@MaestroJericho 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Nameless sounds better in this context but I like the Granophyre for anything higher than B. Especially the Grind, I've owned it 3x (Blade/33 clone/Grind) and sold em all since to me it's shit for non-low tunings.
@Whileweweresinners
@Whileweweresinners 3 жыл бұрын
Cali is best for the tunings
@StringCypher
@StringCypher 2 жыл бұрын
Even with this video being two years old now, I still appreciate the demo. I’ve been considering the Granophyre for a bit but I think my next NDSP amp is gonna be the nameless instead. I chose the Fortin Cali over the Nameless initially but have been looking to add to my plugin collection. Thank you for this!
@stanleyalbuquerque9478
@stanleyalbuquerque9478 4 жыл бұрын
This channel has a good possibility to bump up.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Hope so!
@Liquifireguitargeek
@Liquifireguitargeek 4 жыл бұрын
The Fortin Nameless has a really unique glassy sound that ironically reminds me of the mesa mark series especially with two gain nobs and optionally two boost pedals this gives you so much influence on the gain structure🖤 The omega is a good amp but has no unique functions even the switchable mid focus reminds me of Engl Powerball and many other amps have it to. Until Neural is going to model a mesa mark V or IIC+ or JP-IIC i guess I won’t find anything I like better. Just please Neural: Add a graphic EQ to the nameless!!!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
EQ to the nameless would be amazing
@teamskdm1
@teamskdm1 4 жыл бұрын
GRAPHIC EQ ON THE NAMELESS AND A COMPRESSOR PEDAL AND IT WOULD BE A GOLD MINE
@jackbootshamangaming4541
@jackbootshamangaming4541 2 жыл бұрын
Petrucci's JP-2C is good, but I still wish we'd see more Mark IIC+, or least JP-IIC, plugins more often.
@billyanggranesta8722
@billyanggranesta8722 Жыл бұрын
Bro...
@Technosel
@Technosel 3 жыл бұрын
... And now about a year later you have your own presets on one of Neural DSP's greatest amp sims. Pretty cool stuff. You deserve it, you make awesome content!
@LucasEklund
@LucasEklund 4 жыл бұрын
Both sound great! If I must choose between theese two, i would have to go with Fortin nameless🙂
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Me too! Both are great
@GrootGuitar
@GrootGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
That rendition is straight fire. I really appreciate you going through your plugin chain. Thanks for the top notch insight on each plug in! I think the Fortin still wins to my ears, but the Omega is not far behind at all.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man
@judgegroovyman
@judgegroovyman 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best comparison videos I’ve ever seen! Thank you! I love how you gave us 4 tones to listen to to help us compare and I love how you explained the process. Some constructive feedback: I noticed that your riffs kept it interesting but I would have liked to hear the same riffs on each amp (even with different irs) they were always similar but for example at 14:05 the riffs here for the omega have a sweet repeated bounce-palm mute thing on one of the low strings and we never got to hear that on the Fortin and several my ears wanted to compare small hooks like that but couldn’t. No big deal. :) Thanks again for the great video!
@Nickdoomofficial
@Nickdoomofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Been using the Nameless since it's release, I have all the others but always go back to it. Very nice comparison dude
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Its just so THICC
@lt4801
@lt4801 4 жыл бұрын
I think there is no worse/better with these two. However the Nameless is definitely more "fizzy" and thats why I went for the Granophyre and I am SUPER happy with it. The bottom end kicks so much ass with a 57 and ribbon Great Video as always!
@emilianosg8385
@emilianosg8385 4 жыл бұрын
Killer Tone!....The Fortin sounds great the way you set it up
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@iseeu-fp9po
@iseeu-fp9po 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I remember you from the Neural DSP user group! On september 15, 2019 you posted a kickass video there and I was really impressed! Cool to see you have a channel up and running. I really like your guitar skills!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Nice dude, thanks for stopping by
@mdnix
@mdnix Жыл бұрын
These videos are extremely helpful! Thanks a lot!
@Emm_R_Guitar
@Emm_R_Guitar 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this demo :) So many metal demos are just 000000000000000001000000 I hope you do more of these things because its filling a hole demo wise for me. Because I really dig your chord construction... it has melody- if that makes sense... This is something I want to develop more in my playing.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
If you like the chords, checkout mark holcomb or John browne riffs, their chords are mental!
@Emm_R_Guitar
@Emm_R_Guitar 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeyanHoushmandLive Yeah :) Those are the guys I'm looking in the ballpark for how they go about their construction. Its is just very different to most things Ive heard before. I've neen playing for like 15 years but its a whole style shift for me and has opened the fretboard up again :)
@leguitaristicfrank
@leguitaristicfrank 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome demo Keyan. Based on the internal cab section, id go with the Nameless, hands down. Damn, this thing bites. With the external cab, the battle is much closer tho. The Granophyre has a better tonal balance i think, with a smoother high end.
@JustinTOsburn
@JustinTOsburn 3 жыл бұрын
They both sound great. To me it sounds like a difference in taste or genre. The Fortin is based on a Marshall while the Omega sounds like it’s based on a Boogie styled amp. I’ve owned rectifiers and JCM’s and they’re all great, just at different tasks.
@MaestroJericho
@MaestroJericho 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Nameless sounds nicer for this djent thing but Omega sounds thicker.
@dylanmyhill1188
@dylanmyhill1188 4 жыл бұрын
The Omega with the external cab was my favourite. although I don't think the Omega worked that well for the big open chords. ITs a very dark sounding plugin which i enjoy and really suits my playing. But I can see why other people would go for the Fortin. Both great plugins, I guess it's down to whatever suits the riff and the player.
@emilianosg8385
@emilianosg8385 4 жыл бұрын
I like the monotonic robot speech you use to explain things
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
The batteries are running out
@emilianosg8385
@emilianosg8385 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeyanHoushmandLive Good one lol.....I like the sense of humor you got....you got my dry one good, cheers
@VanjaSpirin
@VanjaSpirin 3 жыл бұрын
finally
@countingcontrol512
@countingcontrol512 4 жыл бұрын
I demo'd all of the high gain plugs by NDSP apart from the Fortin and I just really 'vibed' with the Granophyre instantly and pulled the trigger in about 5 minutes of using it. The 50% offer helped too.
@mieszanesztuki
@mieszanesztuki 4 жыл бұрын
This channel has a lot of potential. I like your content. Clean and neat. Subscribed :)
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude, more to come!
@josuastangl7140
@josuastangl7140 4 жыл бұрын
13:41 "I wonder what goes on before he lets go he says: Send an angel to pull me from the hell below . This weight is far too much to own and this body doesn't feel like home." really cool comparison, both amazing, but I think I'm leaning towards the Omega because of the smoother top end.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Flatline is great, and yes the omega does have a smoother top end.
@Anvismi
@Anvismi 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! You are a great musician and everything sounds just fine in your hands! I am delighted!
@EricJamesVideo
@EricJamesVideo 4 жыл бұрын
There's something magical that happened with the Nameless. The OG. They just got it right outta the gate. After owning the Nolly, NTS and Nameless for a few years now, the Nameless still wins for ripping 7 string riffage. Wish it was updated with a delay or reverb, but I can just add a touch of that in my DAW. Nameless if you want toight riffage, Nolly if you want versatility and atmospheric effects, NTS is you're a more rock based player. Excellent video and tutorial!
@DroneCorpse
@DroneCorpse 4 жыл бұрын
The magic is in Fortin's amp design. The nameless's real life model was custom designed for Fredrik Thordendal of Meshuggah.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Fortin has the special sauce
@matenorth
@matenorth 2 жыл бұрын
NTS for rock? I think it is the best for low E tuning riffs and chugs. Better than nameless to my ears.
@wardiup939
@wardiup939 4 жыл бұрын
Always great to hear the phrase “just in case it sh*ts itself”
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Just in case it shits the bed
@wardiup939
@wardiup939 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeyanHoushmandLive HAHA! Classic!
@dathioz
@dathioz 4 жыл бұрын
I like the phrase but I don't really get why you would track a separate DI signal ... The track itself is in DI and then gets the effect from a VST right ? Or is the recording actually the sound coming from the Fortin or the Neural DSP ?
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
@@dathioz I had a DI recording seperate just incase any unexpected things haopened with any of the guitar tracks, so i could quickly adjust and then send the DI into the the plugin again. Hope this cleared some things up. Cheers
@poulwinther
@poulwinther 4 жыл бұрын
Nameless just has that wide open transparent aggressive kick in the nuts! Not sure how much could be rectified by comparing most fitting IR's rather than the same ones. Great job, thanks!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TREflip1080
@TREflip1080 4 жыл бұрын
15:23 I love the chords man! It reminds of an anime intro
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! Love playing those chords
@UnstopFooL
@UnstopFooL 4 жыл бұрын
Finally the man who can attack the strings,solid review,big thanks,your riffing is just awesome
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! Appreciate it
@red240red2
@red240red2 4 жыл бұрын
Keyan making work breaks better everyday!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I can be of service!
@brunodias1513
@brunodias1513 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, when I tried this plug in my brain just explodes! Each built-in preset sounds amazing! I bought Abasi by Neural on black Friday, after trying others for neural JST, Tonality etc. I started to think that this one can defeat Abasi and if I really need another one. I only tweaks the abasi until I was close to the preset that I liked the most in Omega, and I managed to like Abasi even more. Both are stupendous. But Abasi really serves me better because it is more versatile.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Abasi is more versatile, but they all sound great!
@chrisstrong3748
@chrisstrong3748 4 жыл бұрын
I love Abasi too and did the same thing now that Neural sent out new trial licenses. I've dialing in the sickest rhythm tone I can and then seeing if I can match it with Abasi. Most of the time I go back and like the Abasi sound better. I am actually really happy with the rhythm tones I get out of it. But I have found that I can match the Granphyre's EQ but not the crunchiness of it that gives it that bit of extra aggressive-ness. The distortion is too smooth and full (not a bad thing). I can get Abasi to sound closer to the Nameless, even though the Nameless is also slightly more aggressive. Not a big enough difference to justify the extra money. The Granophyre on the other hand, seems like it's far enough outside of the Abasi realm to make it worth getting as a complimentary rhythm amp
@scottydogg278
@scottydogg278 4 жыл бұрын
So I have a songwriting/recording template set up in Studio One but you've given me some great ideas on other additions I can make (such as the lofi Fabfilter plugin) - cool vid dude :)
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it dude
@iamtheaaronsmith8358
@iamtheaaronsmith8358 4 жыл бұрын
Great playing! Both amps sound great but the Fortin is pure magic. They really did a good job on that. Great video! Subscribed!
@Grylluslit
@Grylluslit 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, you covered every little detail. Super informative and no bullshit.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in man
@cmd_f5
@cmd_f5 4 жыл бұрын
The Gram has more of a warmness, the gain structure is more hairy but only slightly. Nameless is more my thing, all searing firey fury and super tight. Both rule, though. Appreciate the chain details and telling me what order things are in. I Can't stand when people will do a comparison vid and not even do timestamps in the description lol. Cheers m8
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Hairy is a great descriptive word for that type of gain
@frankgarcia3310
@frankgarcia3310 4 жыл бұрын
I subscribed because you actually tell us whats in your chain. The fortin plus IR is amazing. Fortin has more color, life, and idk just feels alive. While the omega is sterile, dark, and almost evil sounding. The omega sounds like something like Oceano would have used, vs Fortin is like The ghost inside or counterparts
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Theyre both great it just depends on what your ears prefer
@HellGoodDoogz
@HellGoodDoogz 4 жыл бұрын
Solid vid mate... i like the extra detail ya go into with explanations
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate, glad you like it
@jwspitz35
@jwspitz35 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are some of the absolute best and most informative on KZbin by far. I’m absolutely torn on which plugin to actually buy-I just got the GGD Zilla cabs and have dialed in some really good tones with the Abasi and the Nameless free trials that I’m liking a lot so far. I’m going to try the Omega and the Nolly ones sometime this week (I surprisingly didn’t like the NATAS at all, I was honestly pretty disappointed by the sound of it with the external IR). From this video, the Fortin sounds better by itself, and the Omega sounds better with the external IR to me so I’ll have to try out both on my own songs to see what sounds better. Your riffs are fucking insane, by the way
@mattwildchild
@mattwildchild 3 жыл бұрын
Sick video man. Thanks for testing these plugins
@kilianruvalcaba6904
@kilianruvalcaba6904 4 жыл бұрын
if I'll have to choice between this two amps, I'll choices the omega for the reasons that you mention, omega have more options and for my ears, omega is better because omega not is so treble, I prefer add treble than remove trebles; thanks for sharing man, excellent video with good information
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
No worries man! Thanks for watching
@lionaudio
@lionaudio 4 жыл бұрын
The Nameless doesn't have nearly as much treble harshness if you use the Royer 121 ribbon on the cabinet. It really smooths things out
@Soloist1983
@Soloist1983 4 жыл бұрын
Nameless sounds like it cuts through WAY better, it's just brighter
@_travisimo
@_travisimo 4 жыл бұрын
Killing it man!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Travis!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, as always drop a comment on anything you see or hear!
@michaellandrumguitar
@michaellandrumguitar 2 жыл бұрын
keep it up bro love the riffs and tone
@culturedpersonality
@culturedpersonality 4 жыл бұрын
Great run through! I think that at some point, you could add a video with any of the plugins in context of a mix. There's one thing listening to the raw amp sound, but its never in isolation realistically - it would be good to hear the same defined amp/cabs in context of a song or tune. Love your work!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, thanks for watching. That's what i tried to do in the intro song, the o n my thing those guitars are subject to are a high and low pass on EQ and a multiband comp.
@TonyTheTruckGuy
@TonyTheTruckGuy 4 жыл бұрын
It's really weird. When you're playing them both at the :15 mark of the video, they sound pretty comparable, but then later in the video at 13:03, the Fortin sounds leaps and bounds better 🤔
@john1guitar
@john1guitar 4 жыл бұрын
4:33 That's interesting, and Fortin Nameless all day ✌️
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Its great and its free!
@kenny.m.olsen95
@kenny.m.olsen95 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeyanHoushmandLive The only downside is that it can't process more than one string at a time greatly :(
@PaulKingMetal
@PaulKingMetal 4 жыл бұрын
Great video once again! I'm definitely going to try the Omega Granophyre. 😉👍
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it would work great for your style of playing, thanks!
@SonGutti
@SonGutti 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, please do more like this 🙌
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@mateuszgrec7414
@mateuszgrec7414 4 жыл бұрын
Great job Hilfiger :D nice video ;)
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude lol
@CoreyLTM
@CoreyLTM 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome content dude thank you! Definitly love the default nameless
@adamburger858
@adamburger858 4 жыл бұрын
I think I subscribed when u had about 2 or 3k- keep it up my brotha!
@iurigrang
@iurigrang 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the granophyre with its own impulse response. I feel like pretty much all the other tones in hte video were brighter than I'd have liked .
@markmcdonald2421
@markmcdonald2421 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Keyan. You might want to consider a 'pop shield' on your vocal mic to eliminate the low end popping sound on your plosives.
@sobasage1958
@sobasage1958 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing comparison. Thank you for this!
@jacobsmith1877
@jacobsmith1877 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. Definitely convinces me that I don't need Granophyre - I preferred Nameless in all of the head-to-head clips
@michaellandrumguitar
@michaellandrumguitar 2 жыл бұрын
great video sir I've learn a lot I downloaded nameless a few days ago ,I think its better than my Kemper ,awesome tones
@MixYourWay
@MixYourWay 4 жыл бұрын
To my ears, Omega sounds bigger (apparently only 6L6s in this video) while Fortin cuts through and focuses in a more kind of forward attitude. I if only had to pic just one of them I would go Omega, since it will give a bit more variety of sounds while producing tracks (not doing kilotons of gain ALL the time) and Omega can def. get tighter and punchier with a bit of tweakage. That said, Fortin is a no brainer for straight up aggressive stuff, no doubts. I'm really grateful for your video dude, pretty sweet stuff! Subscribed!
@DieboldTSZ
@DieboldTSZ 4 ай бұрын
I use both in my mixes Granophyre for main tone Nameless for the quads They compliment eachother pretty nicely
@JtheRelentless
@JtheRelentless 11 ай бұрын
The Nameless without the external ir sounds the best. Neural Dsp has a 50% off sale going in right now
@valerinaatas
@valerinaatas 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison! My favorite setup appeared to be (surprisingly) the Omega+IR🤔 Fortin sounded little bit too harsh (without a mix), just for my taste - but both plugins are brilliant anyway;)
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
The omega with the IR had a smoother top end for sure
@joeharrington5265
@joeharrington5265 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe!
@AedenGrey
@AedenGrey 4 жыл бұрын
Really great video buddy ! Was really interested in the Granophyre but after seeing your comparison I think I like the Nameless better ! I love the Archetype Nolly but more options for heavy and tight 7 strings guitars never hurt ! 😛
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
All comes down to preference!
@TobyKBTY
@TobyKBTY 4 жыл бұрын
Did a shootout between the two on Logic last night, and tbh the Nameless still blows me away even after a year. Even with the stock impulses, there's just something about its gain structure that sits so nicely in a mix when double and quad tracked. The clarity, punch, sizzle, and brutality is unreal when tuned low. With that said I love the meaty grunt of the Omega, I just prefer the slicing tone of the Nameless.
@Silhouette87
@Silhouette87 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish I preferred the tone of something like the Abasi, Nolly or Plini over the Nameless since they are more versatile and tweakable but for metal rhythm nothing beats the punch of the Nameless. I've tried different impulse responses with all of them but the Nameless just sounds sooo good stock.
@84RT
@84RT 4 жыл бұрын
You should compare the omega „give me mids“ preset with the nameless. That preset rocks. In my opinion is the nameless more percussive
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Might need to try the omega again
@MaestroJericho
@MaestroJericho 3 жыл бұрын
They're both great, the Plumes and Grind are really suited for these amps too. I have a PRS Archon and have had the Grind and Plumes through them but preferred the Grind in it for metal. It's kinda in the same Omega Recto-ish spectrum so a future patch where you could use the Grind with the Omega would be amazing. The Plumes through non-high gainers would be great too like the Plini and Cory Wong stuff.
@RapierGold
@RapierGold 4 жыл бұрын
Omega has killer tone. A bit undefined but tonelishous.
@kjaro5401
@kjaro5401 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I find what you are playing at 15:18? It sounds fantastic and now I have to learn it :D
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Its my own, not in a song yet
@JanikMatthew
@JanikMatthew 4 жыл бұрын
Pop filter! Awesome video, man. Trying to decide which to purchase.
@cvlligula
@cvlligula 5 ай бұрын
and now, the fortin nameless has been upgraded to nameless suite X and includes the EQ and post-fx like reverb
@ERWebster
@ERWebster 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, and I also appreciate the level of detail you went into regarding your signal chain. I downloaded the trial for the Granophyre, and I have to say I was wildly unimpressed. While I am sure someone will find a great use for it, to me it sounded like it was overflowing with harsh digital whitenoise fizziness. However, I was also surprised by just how much your external IR tamed some of that, as I would have expected the included IR's to be optimal for that amp sim. I may have to load it back up before the trial expires and see if an external IR is the little bit of magic I need to get a tone I enjoy out of it. At this point though, I can't see a purchase in the foreseeable future.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
The cabs in Gran are very different, depends on what you prefer. Cheers for watching
@ChadKirk
@ChadKirk 4 жыл бұрын
How does your FL Studio handle all the fortin plugins? mine can't even handle one Fortin NTS! And my PC is great!
@HenryWidell
@HenryWidell 4 жыл бұрын
Just tried out the Granophyre. Yes it sounds very good and plug-ins is getting better and better all the time but it still can't compete with real tube amps. Probably its not the purpose either but so many are playing guitar through the plug-ins and doesn't own a real amplifier but i'm kinda old school for that kind of things. A real amp just has that feel when you plug your guitar in what softwares can't never do :) Plug-ins are much cheaper though but i rather save to real amp.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Never had that luxury, would love to try it
@adammercysystem6450
@adammercysystem6450 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely get what you're saying. The thing is about these types of tube amps, they absolutely aren't bedroom recording friendly unless you get an Oxbox/loadbox for the volume. Also some people might not have the space. You are right about the feel of tubes and nothing beats hearing the rawness of a cranked tube amp, but fuck me they're loud!
@holyann
@holyann 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was on the point to buy the Omega but thanks to your video I realise that the Fortin would suit far better.
@guitarhub90
@guitarhub90 3 жыл бұрын
Heard a lot of good reviews for this, i'am currently using Biasfx2 and i'am happy with it but i want to explore more for the betterment of my guitar tone, is this good enough against the Bias FX2 platform?
@craigpaulson3503
@craigpaulson3503 4 жыл бұрын
In my book Fortin is still King. Omega sounds a tad too muddy or flubby. The test was fair, but I would let the notes ring out some, especially in the power chords. Awesome video.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man! Appreciate it
@MrSomebody115
@MrSomebody115 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, loving the videos lately! Making me want to get the Nameless plugin. Where are you based in Aus, and are you in any bands or got any music out there? Thanks!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
South australia, No bands or solo material at the moment. Thanks for watching, the Nameless is sick
@MrSomebody115
@MrSomebody115 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeyanHoushmandLive no way, Im from Adelaide. I entered the Neural DSP riff comp and got to your channel from your sick entry. Keep up the sweet vids!
@akramwahab2120
@akramwahab2120 4 жыл бұрын
The EQ of the granophyre could be used to emulate the effect of the grind pedal. The tone would then be more similar I believe. The plumes is similar to the hexdrive which you decided against for the Fortin, which means it wouldn't cut it on the granophyre.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
That is true to some extent, different flavours for different people. Thanks for watching
@Xdhollow
@Xdhollow 4 жыл бұрын
Fortin Nameless
@instrumentalist28
@instrumentalist28 4 жыл бұрын
Great demo...Both sound great, just different, couldn't say which is better. I do like that el34 setting on the omega. My personal favorite of the neural stuff is the nts, but too pricey for amp plug-ins
@kimseniorb
@kimseniorb 4 жыл бұрын
Great Demo!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@minorminor4345
@minorminor4345 4 жыл бұрын
OMG the chord position at 0:41 :-O
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite!
@ayeapprove
@ayeapprove 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds scooped imho, but holy volumes vibes man!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Volumes are great
@farqueleyou7578
@farqueleyou7578 3 жыл бұрын
'in case it shits itself' I do believe this man resides in Australia
@csn-audio
@csn-audio 4 жыл бұрын
Really nice riffs!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ThatGuyNL
@ThatGuyNL 4 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video on how you record the DI + dist tracks at the same time? I have no clue how to do something like that. It sounds like a really useful trick when recording
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
In your DAW, use another mixer track to record the inout of your guitar, and then disconnect it from the master fader so you can't hear it. Its not worth making a whole video on it but hopefilly that helps
@emilklamer6938
@emilklamer6938 Жыл бұрын
Just bought nameless and i still prefer that to any other they’ve done
@ilikechipsnsalsa9354
@ilikechipsnsalsa9354 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like palm muted chugs on the Fortin were more aggressive and had more growl, like it's being pushed more by the OD in front of it. Do you think that can be dialed in on the Omega as well, or was it just inherent to the way the plugin responds to chugs?
@Ivanchill
@Ivanchill 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I saw you have both GGD and ML Sound Lab Zilla cab sims, which one do you prefer? Thx!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
I use both depending on the mix, I like to chop and change
@Boomtrooper
@Boomtrooper 4 жыл бұрын
What an excellent demo! Out of interest - how do find each sits in a mix? All well and good sounding amazing on their own, but some plugs just seem to sit without much trouble and some seem to be a b*tch to get sat right. Guess I'll have a play with both and see what suits... poss plus the NTS. One thing for sure - Neural DSP are killing it just now - Plini is just golden ear candy but I do need some filth in my life!
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
The omega sits better in a mix out of the box, the Fortin definitely needs some high end taming. Once you get the Fortin sounding sweet, it’s unreal though
@Boomtrooper
@Boomtrooper 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeyanHoushmandLive Thanks for that! Having spent a couple of weeks AB-ing the two in a mix with a bit of processing I'm even more undecided! Veering towards the Nameless - like you, just love that raw brutality. The Granophyre is easy to sit in a mix, but doesn't seem to respond to post processing quite as well, whereas if you stick the Nameless through a slightly characterful compressor it really lifts but 'flattens' the brutality and it sits beautifully. The Granophyre is nice, but a bit more 'sophisticated' sound - somehow smoother and a bit more cultured - hence why I like the Nameless! But as you very rightly said, they are both amazing and it's just a matter of personal taste as to what you're going for. Keep up the good work - love your channel
@nivo6379
@nivo6379 4 жыл бұрын
Omega Granophyre sounds fuller and more balanced. But you can get very saturated sounds with it too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2fOnWB-h56rkNk
@MultiGolonka
@MultiGolonka 3 жыл бұрын
Oi! With the sale going on, which of the Neural's suites do you recommend the most for heavier stuff, like black and progressive metal? 6 and 8 string, but no djent.
@aaronholt442
@aaronholt442 4 жыл бұрын
How do you record a dI track then put the vst plug in to craft your tone? Sorry lol I’m trying to learn how to do this stuff
@carismadesigns
@carismadesigns Жыл бұрын
hi i came acrros this video and went for the vst. sound good something happens when i record this. i can hear the dry signal with the nameless. this doesnt happen when using another vst dist. something u know about? thanks
@Hadeskater
@Hadeskater 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Keyan. Can it be known what pickups do you use for your Jacksons?
@XiyuYang
@XiyuYang 4 жыл бұрын
Granophyre is the first plugin that I didn't buy from Neural, don't get me wrong it's great, but between Nameless, Fortin NTS, and all 3 Archetypes I have all my needs covered and really don't need another option. It sound so dope though I kind of want to buy it for the sake of it.
@KeyanHoushmandLive
@KeyanHoushmandLive 4 жыл бұрын
Glad youre enjoying their products
@E-MusicProductions
@E-MusicProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Ambos tienen diferentes usos, nameless for low tunings works best and Omega for more low ends. También hice un demo del Omega, esta brutal!
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