💪Super Light & FAST VS Heavy & Average🤏 .357 Sig VS .45 ACP+P - Grizzly Ammunition

[@GunSam]

I want to address something that has been bothering me lately, and that is the repeat comment in some form or another, about .357 Sig ammo price and availability. Paraphrasing 100 comments into one here - ".357 Sig is not available anywhere, and it's two to three times the cost of 9mm so it's useless". My question to these people is - what are you even talking about?! I know that a lot of physical stores do rack up the price because all they offer is generally Federal American Eagle .357 Sig, which is very pricey ammo. But to say that the cartridge is hard to find and to say it's like $60 a box in general, is very factually wrong. Going on ammoseek, there are 5+ pages of .357 Sig for purchase just like any other popular cartridge, and about a dozen of these retailers offer 50 round boxes of .357 Sig for $22 to $25. Also, defensive ammo is often about the same price if not less than 9mm+P defensive ammo. The fact is, .357 Sig is not all that hard to find and not all that expensive. It's not a lot different (at least online) than buying a 50 round box of .357 Magnum for cost and availability, but for whatever reason a lot of people are either seriously misinformed or have an agenda to make it seem as .357 Sig ammo is about as rare and expensive as .455 Webley (5 retailers online averaging about $65-$70).

[@josiahantill2126]

Thanks for this video! I’ve been on the fence about upgrading my Glock 22 to 357 sig when I could just put some money into 45+p through my 1911. But what this video clinches for me is barrier penetration, reliability, and even energy dump into live target without over-penetration all tipping to the 357 sig. This all added to mag capacity pro has answered my conundrum. Keep up the great work!

[@somebloke13]

This vid resonates with me as I used to be super light and fast, and now I'm heavy and average! 😥😥🤣🤣

[@GunSam]

At least you had your moment haha, I was always slow and heavy except a few brief years in my teens and 20s

[@rhinovirus2225]

Same haha

[@texasbeast239]

"Let it flow Just let yourself go Slo and lo That is the tempo" --Beastie Boys

[@aarongreenfield9038]

Is it worse that I am skinny, But Not particularly fast or agile?

[@GunSam]

@@aarongreenfield9038 Yes because you can't help ur friends move furniture either. What good are ya lol

[@bpri9880]

For defense the .45 took it for me this time (but it would be nice to see without the feed failures) but the .357 Sig is still good at penetrating hard objects at distance. Exactly why DPS uses the round, good at penetrating barriers like vehicles.

[@pabloescobar7802]

Texas DPS if that’s what you’re referring to .. uses 9mm

[@bryangrote8781]

TX DPS have gone to 9mm. The penetration advantage is why they went to .357Sig in the ‘90s over 9mms and .45s they had been issuing before. But nowadays it’s just too hard to get ammo for .357Sig and very expensive for an agency with several hundred troopers. Nearly every agency I know of in Texas that was using .40, .45, or .357Sig has gone to 9mm in the past 5 yrs. Most will probably say due to the FBI switching but it’s also an easy way to justify reducing training costs and making it easier to qualify. I personally know over 100 officers and majority are good shots but for those who aren’t 9mm is easier to qualify with and ammo is 25% or more cheaper than any other round.

[@raleighthomas3079]

@@bryangrote8781good explanation, economic factor overriding performance. I believe the Air Marshals still use the .357 Sig, for the reason of reduced over-penetration in crowded aircraft cabins.

[@steel440]

That 90 grain load reminds me a LOT of the 7.62x25 Tokarev, cool rounds to see! I wonder how that 45 load would work in a 1911

[@GunSam]

Everyone seems to be an expert on my Glock 41 due to this Grizzly brand ammo. I replaced the magazine and magazine release in June of this year. Here is a video of every .45 ACP round I have ran through this pistol since I fixed it in June, some with the stock barrel and some with the KKM barrel. For some reason, people didn't comment on the jams until I tested the Grizzly ammo. But everyone is an expert, here's the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXnXpHxjadKfbc0

[@cliffknoebel8528]

They must be running enforcer or a very similar powder in that 45, also I'm no expert but I can tell you what I had to do to my 21 for it to run properly with hot super loaded to rowland velocities if you'd like 👍

[@cliffknoebel8528]

I had similar issues with my 21 when I started experimental stages on super hot 45 super "45 rowland" if you get on glock talk lol, but that 230 was moving just about the same speed as if it was loaded with enforcer,about the max you get before melting primers into the case ask me how I know 😂

[@vlogfriendsutopia]

That's a badass 45 load. Excellent, excellent, excellent. The 357 SIG didn't quite make any of the requirements for an effective self defense load.

[@arieltraasdahl-xh6ri]

Stopping power is about ft/lbs of energy, not bullet diameter. Bullet diameter directly translates to lethality. Shutting someone down with a single chest hit favors 357 SIG. 4.6 inch barrel with Underwood's 125 grain generates 1570-1575 fps and 685ish-689 ft/lbs of energy. Plus it defeats barriers far more readily. Plus higher magazine capacity. Lighter weight. Lighter recoil. Look to .40 Super conversions for .45 ACP-chambered weapons.

[@wemcal]

Darn Super Great Video! We start using the .357sig around 2005.. was always amazed with the results..

[@GunSam]

Thank you

[@ryanranard5187]

That .45 ammo seems to have an exceptionally high velocity for 230gr. All the testing I’ve seen with other loads in +P come in around 1,000fps give or take . 1090 is a crazy speed even from a 5.3” barrel. I’d love for you to test the velocity again and see if you get the same results. This ammo is hotter than Underwood and Buffalo Bore.

[@texas-raider]

Really diggin' your video with the .357 Sig. I've carried a P226/P229/P239 daily with my agency since 1998, loaded with Speer Gold Dot 125 gr JHP's, and even when we switched over to the (IMHO anemic) Hornady 135 gr 9mm, I opted to keep carrying the Gold Dot. In practical real-world reality, I think with the .357 Sig you're basically getting a 12+ shot .357 Magnum in a more ergonomic, easier to shoot, easier to reload pistol....it's really the best of all worlds. And if you have a P229 (true, it's a heavy tank of a gun), there are 15 round options in magazines. It's a pity it's fading these days, but folks want cheaper ammo and 18+ round capacity. I don't see that's a great trade off, especially if someone is trying to scalp me. I want the most power I can get without resorting to basically hunting loads with noticeably more recoil & blast (like the 10mm), but that mirror the street performance of the legendary 125 gr. .357 Magnum. Thanks for you videos, keep up the great work.... 👍😎

[@davidca96]

That 357 Sig dumped ALL that 717ft/lbs in those first few inches, the blocks took that shockwave and decided to fly.

[@GunSam]

It was sort of an anomaly how the first and second block stuck together. They don't always do that so I think the weather was just right, also the shelf a little damp. I made a carpet shelf last year that goes over the main shelf but my new black wood blocker would prevent it from sitting there. What's funny is I added swing out top metal arms to prevent this month ago, just never employed them yet.

[@greybeard277]

Both of those loads seem to be driven too fast for the projectiles. Interesting demonstration, thanks for another enjoyable video.

[@turbo-bike7999]

Thanks for sending me to the Grizzly website! Finally a fourth player and dare I say the most powerful player in loading full power 45 Auto!!!

[@abengelbrecht]

Thx, fun video! We should start a patreon effort to get you a HK USP Expert 45 or at least a G21 and G20, that way you can get something reliable for 45 (and maybe 10mm)

[@GunSam]

Actually, I plan on getting a 4" model 610 10mm revolver at some point. I think the velocities would be the same as a 5" pistol.

[@thomasgriffith3747]

The 357sig may not have 12 inches of penetration but can you imagine the physical impact of over 700ft lbs of energy hitting at 1800 fps. Ill take that compromise all day

[@danamorrow5352]

I would love to see what that 357sig would do to the bologna!

[@ultrafuel2559]

I'd like to see Grizzly load the 1900 fps 357 Sig with a Lehigh Defense solid copper Extreme Defender bullets, because the bullets wouldn't come apart. The Grizzly round is also 200 fps faster than Underwood Ammo's 90 gr 357 Sig Extreme Defender.

[@squatchwatch5237]

I'd imagine that'd be hard to do because the Lehigh are solid copper which is less dense than lead so the actual bullet would be longer taking up more powder space

[@ultrafuel2559]

@@squatchwatch5237 I suspect it won't be an issue, because the extreme defender bullets are much lighter (65 gr and 90gr). The extreme penetrator weighs in at 115gr, so I suspect the bullet dimensions are the same. I've seen quite a few tests on these bullets, and they typically don't deform at all in soft targets, and I've chronographed the 65gr extreme defender at over 2100 fps out of my 3.5 inch barrelled P224.

[@nicholasthomas4382]

FINALLY!! I have been waiting for a review of the 90 grain Grizzly 357. For practical defense purposes, I would probably stick to 125 grain, but its interesting to see how other loads perform, especially extreme loads like this.

[@DaveL9170]

95 is WAYYYYYYY too light. Use the 125 grain for SD purposes.

[@traumajock]

At Grizzly Ammo: "Jenkins!! Contact Sam IMMEDIATELY and tell him we'll ship him as many boxes as he wants if he will re-test in a month or two, after people forget the FTF's. Snerdley!! Call the engineers and ask what weapon they use to test that .45ACP, and tell them to put a 125 grain projectile in the 357 Sig! Now, Goddammit!"

[@kc0lif]

357 sig got some force knocked stuff over.

[@wastool]

I've never seen a jam on a Gen 4 Glock 21. I'm a Glock armorer and am responsible for keeping 32 Glock 21s running. There is a large police agency near me that issues Gen 4 Glock 21s,and over 400 pistols, they have had very few issues. Sure the ammo in this video is a little hot, but I bet it would function flawlessly in a 21.

[@onpsxmember]

That container takes me back to some old videos.

[@paulscountry456]

Good job on the 357 Sig, that round is the most powerful factory round made , watch for setback in those, that 45 is ferocious. Nobody could survive a center shot from that 90 gr same with that 45.

[@paulscountry456]

Good shooting with that 90 too.I would not choose it for defence but the amount of hemorrhaging and secondary projectiles from a rib hit would just be devastating.

[@GunSam]

Yeah it's one of those things. Whenever collected data comes to light on 'stopping power' well over 90%, almost all have the same thing in common, they are light for caliber. Stuff like Corbon 115+P 9mm or Federal 115 gr +P+, Corbon .40 S&W 135 gr, .357 Magnum 125 gr and so on. I have showed that basically everything like that does indeed fragment and under-penetrate. The exception is the .45 ACP 230 gr Hydrashok, high 'stopping power' however that round has since been changed in design.

[@bbb2881]

that 90 grain probably wouldn't reach any vitals and just make a horrific looking superficial wound

[@thomasgriffith3747]

Bbb2881 Getting hit with over 700 ftlb would cause a bit more damage than a superficial wound

[@alexandertoshich765]

The jacket thing, so true! Stay warm.

[@biggunshandguns3687]

Gotta love that .357 sigi wish it had become popular. The saying g it's snappy are the same say that about the 40 and most have never shot either one

[@danoneill2846]

Good looking 45

[@bryangrote8781]

Crazy power from these loads vs most others in these calibers! I like the addition of the steel penetration test also and am wondering if there was any discernible difference in denting on the plate between them? Very cool test!

[@Constitutionalist1791]

That is some really accurate ammunition from all the videos I've seen from you. Not saying it isn't partially you because you're a good shot but other patterns weren't as tight as these. I wish that 45 worked well, I wonder how it would have worked through an HK handgun.

[@dubltap7216]

I found the grizzly ammo to be excellent in my 45 acp's. Oddly I had the same jamming issues with my 4.5" Springfield xdm but my 4" and 3.3" Springfields had no problem. Full expansion on all bbl lengths.

[@dubltap7216]

@@jwill214-l1f I think so, it does same thing with other +P ammo.

[@dannysees]

Fun one to watch 😁 with the Glock I'm very sure slide is just outrunning the magazine. Happens with the 10mm ones running heavy loads too. Would love a 90-100gr bullet with a cannelure that prevents expansion past .55...same with 135gr .40/10mm and similar.

[@AjackLee4]

Yep, I had this issue in my Glock 22 and my Glock 24, using hot hot loads with a flashlight mounted and an older gen magazine, all contributors to the issue.

[@rezlogan4787]

I’ve pointed out the effectiveness of light for caliber projectiles going very fast for a long time. Lead roundball going 1,000+ feet per second does bizarre and terrible things to tissue and hits with concussive force.

[@dangerman007]

I would carry that .45 load for sure. The .357 Sig had impressive velocity, but I would pass on this for a defensive load.

[@Fudmottin]

I wonder if a stiffer spring in the 45 would have helped. Or it could be the hollow cavities were just too big to feed reliably. As for the Sig round, that was the wrong bullet construction for that velocity. A solid copper hollow point would probably have done better. Or, probably illegal, three segments of mild steel making a cylinder inside the copper with a hollow point noise to make it a segmenting round.

[@texasbeast239]

The M&P 10mm has been notorious for weak mag springs that don't raise rounds nearly as fast as the recoil spring cycles the slide. It resulted in the same misfeed problem.

[@GunSam]

I have tried stiff springs VS stock spring with loads in this range like with .45 Super and it really makes no difference.

[@Fudmottin]

@@GunSam That's too bad. That total lack of reliability ruins what appears to be a good round. Maybe S&W makes a pistol that will work with it.

[@Fudmottin]

@@texasbeast239 Perhaps a heavier slide would slow down the cyclic rate and fix things. Or maybe Wolf makes heavier springs that you can put in your magazines.

[@Lanzerath1244]

Great video. Would you recommend the 357 sig?

[@GunSam]

Depends on the use. For personal defense, CCW and so on, no I would not. Not reliable enough penetration. It would be fine for other purposes I am sure, like small game and pests.

[@spydercomonkey]

Great test. I've always been curious about how that crazy fast 90gr .357 sig load wold perform. Alas, seems like that projectile was designed for 900fps not 1900fps lol. Wonder if a tougher projectile like the XTP would fare better?

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

I'd suggest trying a Wolff magazine spring in that Glock. May help prevent those nose-dives...

[@Lateralus1007]

Gun Sam : I don’t lean back Fat Joe : U Aite

[@jazzman5598]

Fine vid Sam. But man, you have convinced me about barrel swaps…..Nope. Thanks

[@GunSam]

Why not? The .357 Sig barrel is a swap and runs great.

[@jazzman5598]

That I did not know. As far as the “why not?”…..the vid? I am a fan. I like revolvers for the very reason shown on this vid. It was funny too!

[@jace3802]

@@GunSam what barrel was in the .45

[@jumpkickman1993]

It's kind of hilarious that you have to explain to people how a jacket works in the winter time when they think you're leaning back it's just weird

[@bobcatforever3485]

Interesting comparison. Thanks for sharing. Take care.

[@GunSam]

Thank you, take care.

[@Lateralus1007]

4:51 time for some bungle cords or ratchet straps 😂😂😂 Luv this episode SoOoo bad&$$

[@GunSam]

I have these metal pieces that can slide over, to tightly fit a 2x4. You can see it in this video. The link is the first time I have used it, but I have filmed other videos I have not released yet and it holds the gel really well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnmloHWIp82Njrc

[@Shoota027]

have a question can you try that 45acp ammo with a newer 1911 vs and an older one like a 1911a1 from 1935or older

[@Prepare2Survive]

I wonder if homemade cast lead lee 95 grain RF powder coated bullets from wheel weights would mushroom out instead of fragmenting at that high 357 sig velocity? I have a bunch of those projectiles already powder coated. If you want to load them up into 357 sig brass using some slow burning powders like Longshot or Power Pistol I can send you some of the bullets. Quickload says the 10% below max starting load would be 11.3 grains with Power Pistol at a 1.199" COAL. For Longshot it's a 11.1 grain starting load.

[@nokoolaid]

It's nice to see an ammo manufacturer deliver something to spec or better. Maybe you need a stronger recoil spring on the Glock. Anyway, reminds me of the 185 +P underwood you did a couple years ago. Maybe do an update video? Back then you had the baloney and water bottles.

[@DinoNucci]

40 is the correct answer vs human sized questions

[@CampDavid54]

Glock reliability when it likes the ammo

[@yuvgotubekidding]

Try leaning back when you shoot to alleviate the malfunctions. 😄

[@imeprezime1285]

Gee.. really hot ammo. That 45 ACP from carbine would go supersonic!

[@Rampant_Colt]

I had similar results when shooting Corbon 115gr jhp .357 Sig into wetpack newspaper. The temporary cavity was HUGE, but shallow penetration. A thought: I wonder if reliability would increase if you polished the feed ramp on that aftermarket barrel

[@Magnum-ng9mo]

Great video

[@Patriotx-gx4ce]

Get your XD or XDM from Springfield. I never had a jam with XD even shooting 45 super occasionally in all stock XD. They are built tougher and mechanism is much beefier including dual guide rod springs. Glocks fall apart and are not tough enough for anything +p in .45, or 10mm stock.

[@demuntresmith6666]

Love my xd 45,9mm and 10mm

[@lloydwright9464]

Taofledermaus recently did a video on some 9mm ammo called the Interceptor. As always they did an excellent video and had very good results with the ammo. But as I was watching the video, I was thinking about your testing methods. I am very interested in the ammo, but would like to see test results from you, and hear your opinion. Thanks for all the time and work you put into these videos for us.

[@GunSam]

I have tested something similar that might show something that you might want to see. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKGYd51sectnb7M

[@demuntresmith6666]

Love the videos

[@traumajock]

In all seriosity, that 357 Sig round would mess up someone's day. Liquified brains, blood, and cerebrospinal fluid would be leaking from both ears and nostrils. I've seen that with a contact shot with .38 Special, three times.

[@robertseafield5810]

Agree that the 45 ACP round is an overload for that pistol. A heavier spring might help. The slide is moving too fast. The 357 SIG might work better with an all copper bullet.

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

45ACP 230gr JHP +P ROCKS!!!

[@richdoherty64]

I'm giving Glock another try. I'm buying a G21 gen3. I'll just stick with Federal 230gr fmj. That's good for the range and carry.

[@ted.angell7609]

The G21 has too thick a grip for my medium-sized hands, but for some reason the 30SF feels great in them, better than the 36, which I don’t recommend for other reasons. YMMV, but if you’re thinking of something for carry, since you can put full-size magazines in any double-stack .45 Glock, check out the 30 before you buy.

[@thomasgriffith3747]

Can you describe the felt recoil and HOW/WHERE the recoil is felt. A 45 seems to push back into the palm. How does the 357sig recoil feel?

[@LarryeWhite61]

Well well, I do use 357Sig and also 45acp+p but have not used this brand.

[@badgerrrlattin35]

This vid is a strong endorsement for carrying a revolver.

[@jameskringlee8974]

Good to know about the failures to function with the variations of "hot and hotter" .45 auto cartridge . I see it all over youtube. Has "it" been figured out somewhere? Does .45 super or .460 Roland, in some set up, in, for instance, colt series 70 government or the like, function with equivalent reliability to .45 hard ball in the stock pistols?

[@biggunshandguns3687]

This in no way a criticism just my experience. The kind of jam you got it this video is called a 3 point jam. I have had the same jam in my 1911's. It usually caused by a mag that releases the round too quick so the Buller doesn't hit the ramp at a good angle. The 2nd reason it happens to me is when the round is load too long. Those rnds usually nose dive because they bit the ramp in the wrong place. The answer for the 3 point for me was changing mags that release the round later and it doesn't take much difference. Thr nose dives can sometimes be fixed with a different mag but for me I usually just the over all length. 1911's were designed to shoot 230gr hardball a thing else is a bonus. I hope some of my experiences with my guns can help but glocks i know thing about glocks. If it doesn't help sorry I wasted your time

[@TrickShot9]

I found this video because I wanted new carry ammo for my 45 (the critical duty ammo I bought doesn't cycle in my pistol), and those jams don't sit right with me 😅 my pistol could definitely cycle different than yours but I'd hate to find that they jam as well.

[@erolkavlakverizon6112]

Interesting outcome..think I'll stick with my .45acp in my 1911A1.

[@dariodicarlo8745]

The .45 +p easily takes the win on this one while the .357 sig had very impressive numbers this video shows that dosent always make it a great round it didn’t penetrate nearly enough while the .45 +p had adequate penetration and an impressive wound track very solid round

[@dariodicarlo8745]

With hotter .45s like .45+p and .45 super using a heavier recoil spring should make it run more reliably

[@randyblackburn9765]

I’d be willing to bet that a 357 Sig in around 148 grain would perform better on the gelatin . I never had feeding issues on early generation Glocks with any load so IDK about yours

[@texaschesthair79-pm5ip]

You just got jammed

[@whomagoose6897]

For us 1911 owners how can you tell if your 1911 can shoot .45-acp +P? I only load mine with standard .45-acp. Mostly FMJ for competition and HP for CCW carry. Have a revolver that is marked for .38-Special +P. Less recoil than .357 magnum.

[@pabloescobar7802]

I’m not a Dr. but with that energy from the .357 Sig ... one would have to think that energy dump would severely damage internal organs if not destroy them .... I still wouldn’t opt to carry it based on other choices I have ..

[@aarongreenfield9038]

Can you do pistol carbine versus their handgun counterparts?

[@GunSam]

Maybe someday. I still don't have any carbines.

[@terrywisham9228]

Very good 👍🏻

[@64samsky]

That's why I carry a Glock 32c in 357Sig!

[@thomasgriffith3747]

How's the recoil on the comp vs non comp

[@colt10mmsecurity68]

I watched this video on my iPhone and it’s hard for me to see as I don’t have my glasses at the moment. Everything is really fuzzy. Perhaps you talked about it and I missed it, but do you have a stainless aftermarket barrel in that G21? That’s what it looked like to me. If so, I’d say that’s more than likely your malfunction. problem.

[@GunSam]

Like I have said again, this is not a G21. Also I just edited together a video where I show every .45 ACP round I fired this year and there were no malfunctions, not one in either the aftermarket barrel or stock barrel, many different HP ammo boxes, not one malfunction. Then, I try Grizzly ammo, it jams and everyone is an expert.

[@willlambert1809]

A stiffer recoil spring should help with feeding issues

[@GunSam]

But when every other .45 ACP ammo feeds 100%, don't you think that's a bit extreme over ONE ammo that I didn't like anyways?

[@willlambert1809]

@@GunSam well I guess that’s correct, that was some VERY hot 45

[@GunSam]

BTW I have the stock spring and a 22 lb one. Any time I have had issues with other ammo, I tried to stiffer spring. Did not do anything. That's why I get annoyed. So many people tell me nonsense that they heard from someone else, that they heard from someone else over and over again. I tried it, NOPE.

[@jimchambers7548]

Gotta love 357sig 🔫

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊. Clean up on ally 3 .

[@edwinchandeck7231]

Hey San, throw that Glock POS to the trash can and get yourself a good 1911 in 45.

[@GunSam]

Well, I guess that might be a good idea...however I do think it more wise to fish out of the trash can after and use the probably $300 in trade in value to buy something better.

[@maxmccain8950]

Sir, I would definitely find out what’s going on with that Glock. It’s unusable for anything but chrono work. Maybe it’s the barrel?

[@GunSam]

Works 100% with .45 ACP so I don't see the problem really. There's nothing wrong with it. The fact it cannot handle +P ammo that is 50% more powerful than typical has a lot to do with something wrong.

[@maxmccain8950]

@@GunSam Cool, I didn’t know that. My G32 has a 9mm, 40 and 357 barrels. I like the versatility. Great video sir, as usual. 👍🏻

[@philgoodpaster3161]

I'd guess the .357 Sig in 125-130 gr would be ideal.

[@GunSam]

It was designed around the 125 gr. From what I have seen anything 125 bonded to 147 gr work well. I say that as bonded 125 gr for .357 Sig are made better than regular 124 gr bonded 9mm bullets. Regular bullets like 147 gr XTP work well. Anything 115 gr or less just explodes.

[@philgoodpaster3161]

@@GunSam Have you done a compasison of .357 Sig vs .357 Magnum?

[@upperroomtoo]

You didn't focus on the bullet very long but it sure looks like they are using Everglades Bullets. I load them in 9mm and 45 super. I push that 90gr to 1700fps in 9mm Plus P and it grenades in the first milk jug so bad that only fragment holes are in that back of the jug. It doesn't even exit the first jug. My 45 loads flatten out and loose the jacket.

[@LDR1100RS]

Sometimes I miss the Jug or Not box.

[@funwithballistics1016]

Light and fast all the way!

[@mkshffr4936]

The modern Tokarev. Seems like a poor bullet choice for such high velocity.

[@sea-2366]

If a Glock 21 has issues feeding that is concerning. Maybe a bad magazine. The 357 sig was impressive.

[@GunSam]

I hope a Glock 21 would feed better than the Glock 41 I use.

[@rhinovirus2225]

Well I guess I'm gonna have to get me one of them there 357 sigs.

[@ted.angell7609]

If you’ve got a .40, you’re probably only a barrel-change away.

[@PPISAFETY]

Clearly the manufacturer is running a bullet in their .357 SIG round that is not the right one for that velocity. As for the .45 ACP, there is a problem if it doesn't function in your Glock. I'd call both rounds a fail.

[@rangetime6779]

357 Sig round acts like a varmint load

[@bbb2881]

With the .45 I think the slides cycling to fast for the magazine spring

[@allenbolen9705]

AZ airgunner try to say that’s a XTP bullet in that 357 sig. I don’t think so what about you?TY

[@GunSam]

It's been awhile but I think what I had was not an XTP albeit the XTP for the .380 ACP happens to be a 90 gr. That being said, smaller ammo companies like Grizzly, Underwood, Buffalo Bore etc will often swap bullets in their loads depending on availability, so it is possible a different person had this ammo with XTP bullets.

[@allenbolen9705]

@@GunSam Yes usually XTPs get deep penetration. It only got 7 inches in his test. It looked like it came apart in yours.Thanks

[@louv4437]

357 sig is nasty

[@podunkmissouri4999]

But but but but glocks don't jam!

[@czgunner]

Seems to be a terrible bullet choice for that 357 sig loading. Entertaining though.

[@jrkat]

45 should be thru a 1911 😏

[@LSS101]

Change your Glock for IMBEL or clean the gun.

[@JonR35]

Vs a 10mm please

[@NomadicHacker.]

That 357 sig would work well for coyote

[@LarryeWhite61]

DRT w/head shot:)

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Very interesting ammo & results. Great range fun with 357. Not unusable for self defense but not optimal. Thanks.

[@GunSam]

It's another data point. Still never a single .357 Sig jam, 68 to 147 gr...

[@maxmccain8950]

I carry a Glock 32 in 357 Sig every day. Very usable for self defense.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

@@maxmccain8950 Oh yes as a cartridge it is one of the best. In fact, it is disappointing that it has somehow lost favor with LE and self defenders of late. My reference was toward this particular offering not the 357 Sig chambering/cartridge.

[@andywilson8698]

Hell for leaning back so much while shooting you got really good aim !!!!