Super Powerful Electric skateboard & Tips about Esk8 " My 10 000W Beast " Part 1

[@T-Sav]

schrodinger battery, if you dont check, its both full, and depleted

[@alexcoli]

i have to say the view of the trees from below after u fell was quite impressive

[@Man-go-Everywhere]

Pirate can you write down a list of major components please and suppliers Thanks

[@ratheonhudson3311]

I m glad you've progressed from one board to another and building your own. I also aim to keep working on my 6,600 watt board for off-roading. I have a secondary board project and I agree with you on lower KV belt driven motors being better for off-road riding. Your fan ontop of the VESC looks so cool

[@peterpeterpeter101]

Helmets work better with the strap under the chin locked in place.. might find it comes off if you dont.

[@DerbJd]

Did you dispose of that helmet after that one crash and buy a new one?

[@JustinBrumCarveesk8]

Some of the newer option coming on the amrket this year for Vescs are going to make things for the average builder and esk8 community much much better

[@mathewerven9]

Just got my 1st board identical to the one you showed as your 1st. I'm ready to start jumping this thing and question the suspension .. Any modification suggestions you have would be appreciated.

[@RoadSurferOfficial]

Glad to see the flipsky is powerful enough for 100+ amps.

[@abeeekk6965]

5:13 gdzie dostanę takie podkładki pod śruby mocowania i jak się nazywają? ;)

[@vikingmic]

I need this handlebar! Where can I get one like yours?

[@vikingmic]

@@shirtprinting found it on alibaba :)

[@dsdasdization]

I have been looking like crazy with different words (handlebar,bullbar, rear protection,etc ...) No look. Would you have any links?

[@akincb3114]

Hi, do you have a link where do you get your cooling fan and case for your VESC. Love watching your videos 😀

[@elchevinit]

What’s the need for the fan on top of the vesc box? Is it because you live in a hot climate!? How does it cool it being externally installed like that?

[@PirateWasHere]

well If U will use it at real power ok 6KW it will be Super Hot

[@elchevinit]

So not really to do with the outside heat more the size of your motors.. what size are your motors?

[@othoapproto9603]

I agree with you. This trend to swap belt for gears is not for me. I would much rather have a belt. Question, What is the yellow part inside the spring? is it a pneumatic shock or rubber? Thanks for the video.

[@PirateWasHere]

this is called elastomer , increase stability

[@mta3562]

Great video. I wished I found this video before I bought all my DIY parts to build my mountain board. I bought two different style MBS decks but should bought the trampa deck. I bought Flisky 190kv motor and should bought the lower KV motor or the motors you have. Lastly can i get the info or link on the cooling fan and cover, Thank you

[@miniproto4721]

Very Cool build.

[@1995205]

Keep it safe man... These boards are fast and funny, but very dangerous as well, even more with such a power and speeds. If you wanna go fast, better check high end bikes and scooters... Or just stay with the xiaomi!!! We want more videos with it 😍 Cheers :)

[@hellohogo]

Absolutely great build.

[@viralprimal2281]

Anyone know where he got his deck, motor mounts and that fan case?

[@PirateWasHere]

Deck : trampa holy pro 35 / Motor mount: Ideatb

[@RexSmithII]

I am falling love with your videos, holly dam, when you fell ! geeze and you just get up and talk to the camera, your defiantly one tuff man. Im building a kit of the cheaper board you mention. I had 6380 170kv 4000watt motors in my shopping cart but the guy in china talked me into getting his 6374 190kvs. my thought process was to get a lower kv and if I wanted more top end I can gear it that way, oh well. but my question is the motors I got are not sensored. what exactly does the benefit of sensored do? my original was from tq boards was sensored!!!

[@Cookie.x.monsterr]

Can you link the motor mounts

[@alexpe93]

Why dont you build a insane offroad e-kickscooter?

[@PirateWasHere]

I would love too, let me think Bro. The hardest part is to find good light frame

[@harrybauls6217]

Badass build man that is impressive!

[@1973canim]

Hi man, Great beast you got there. Where did you buy the front bumper? Greetings

[@Maderpakk]

Whats the price for entire build and how long is the range?

[@PirateWasHere]

Around 2,5-3K $

[@reginalcarrar9478]

Your English is good bro! You are getting there!

[@PirateWasHere]

Thanks Bro , I really trying 🍕🍻

[@voltagefrogmatthias2375]

Skating with a helmet? Well if u are a pro, u always wear one. Be smart, protect your most valuable asset 🧠👍👍👍

[@morsumbra9692]

Wearing a helmet is how you stay alive long enough to be a pro. Dont by a veggie brain

[@rafaber7225]

Jeździłes bez uprzęży na stopy? Ja po pierwszej głębię na syl08 odkręciłem i czuje się bezpieczniej, szybciej zaskoczysz i deska cie nie pociągnie.

[@PirateWasHere]

ale bez mocowan na nogi to nie jest fun, szybkie zakrety skoki duza moc odpada bez mocowan :( 🍕🍻

[@SC-rk6zt]

Cool video, some pretty funny points too. Just curious because I have 2 of the same, is that VESC on a heatsink? And are you really running it at 100 battery amps per side? That would be really impressive. I know it’s been years but I will send you a Bluetooth module if you would see if you actually reach the theoretical numbers. Just fyi lower kv motors aren’t always more efficient, it’s true that they waste less just spinning themselves but bc they have thinner windings they A. waste more power under high load and B. can’t make as much power without quitting or saturating.

[@PirateWasHere]

Yes it was over 100A, 25mm copper wire was hot, and XT90 was soft most of the time ;) Low KV are always better , because you can more precisely controll end speed/power . I guess what you mean is that thinner and longer wire creates higher IR which is true, but you can not consider motor as a wire energy transfer system ! , it's about electro magnetic field . Lower KV means lower amps and higher voltage to achieve the same rpm, which is way more efficient compare to low voltage and high amperage because with wIth higher voltage , IR is lower. That is why home power sockets has 110-220V not 12V, also HQ Emoto bikes uses high voltage battery packs 140V++ and low capacity 20ah. Basically high KV motors are good for fans, planes, drones , where high rpm is needed. Have a great weekend

[@SC-rk6zt]

@@PirateWasHere If your board is still running, can I send you a VESC Bluetooth module so you can screen record telemetry? I will even cover postage. I have 2 of these VESCs on 8awg wire, 8mm bullet connectors and a 21700 12S10P welded with 0.3mm nickel I’m willing to push to 500A. Yes lower kv motors use a higher voltage which is better but it also lowers your top speed meaning you have to gear longer. Higher kv motors need a larger gear reduction. If a high and low kv power train is geared to the same speed and running at the same speed then the motors will be at the same voltage. The only way lower kv motors are running on a higher voltage is if you have a lower top speed than high kv motors. Lower rpm setups make more heat under high torque, extremely high rpm setups waste energy just spinning the motors but waste very little making torque. I know with 200mm+ wheels it’s hard to gear them down much so sometimes lower kv is needed. Thank you for the response and you definitely have a great understanding of motors, have a great week.

[@PirateWasHere]

Let me share some of my experience, so you will understand me a bit more: Lower KV means Higher torque, so overally better acceleration , especially from 0. Higher voltage lower IR, IR means internal resistance , which in this case we can see it as a change energy to heat. Higher voltage , creates greater Magneticfield B= µ0I/2πR ** higher RPM means more friction, so it does not only change energy into a heat but also this heat will chaeg/damage structure of the metal. If you will have some free time, read about what is energy and how electrons are involved . I like this topic , we can understand why things seems to be " bigger " and higher temperature , and why structure is more " fragile ". Watt is Voltage*Amperage. So with this knowledge tell me, what will " Waste " more energy into a heat at 1000W, 1000V *1A or 1V*1000A ? As a simple user , you should avoid as much as possible any gearing , any friction & moving parts , means problems. In any system , geared ir direct , lower KV motor will be more efficient and has more torque at lowest or highest power. Ofcourse there is more to it, like EV cars use geared system , because of motor size / placement, also higher kv motor with geared system helps to spread torque forces BUT this is different story. No idea where did you get from " Lower rpm setups make more heat under high torque, extremely high rpm setups waste energy just spinning the motors " , do you understand this is NOT DIESEL engine ?. If you are not using ESC system to control precisely RPM, then motor at highest rpm barerly use any energy ( otherwise you will have infinite max speed ). If ESC uses RPM motor control system then it slowing down motor RPM to achieves expected value and only then it's using lots of energy ( speed up / slow down , also you need decent high frequency controller for it). ** Still higher KV will waste more energy due to IR and bearing friction. As a good designer you have to calculate what end speed do you need. Ebike hub motors use around ~8KV ;) , ofcourse geared hub motors has higher kv ( ~30KV ) and it can even greater torque but there is a price for it ;). I don't have this board anymore, but if you want some real power 10P could not enough, in reality you will short battery which LI IONs doesn't like. 10P at best scenario will delivery maybe 400A BUT only when fully charged and for couple sec while LIPO is a powerhouse ;) Cheers

[@PirateWasHere]

@SC-rk6zt BTW 4WD esk8 is way to go !, more stable , has higher torque and 50% lower stress on the parts. ** Yes , it will need 10% more energy to do the same range/ distance but Man , it's worth it every penny :) !

[@SC-rk6zt]

@ Yes higher kv motors make less torque but they spin to a higher speed so you can gear them down more while still getting the desired speed. Agreed? Because of this they regain their torque per amp at the wheels. The only difference is the motor spins faster and has thicker wires. Agreed? Your whole thing about the higher voltage isn’t from using a lower kv motor directly, but being geared for a lower speed. Agreed? The higher/lower motor rpm setups is to do with copper vs iron losses, a very common concept in the diy esk8 community. Higher kv motors have less resistance so they make less heat making torque but as you know a motor takes some power to spin even unloaded, and a high kv motor on a high voltage will melt in minutes at max rpm. Yes higher kv motors have more losses in bearings but they have a massive lower iR. I don’t understand some parts of your message, but you know max motor rpm is based off kv and battery voltage right? (and field weakening sometimes). That flipsky isn’t even taking 200 battery amps, nevermind 400-500. This 12S10P will reach more than 30hp which is way more than I could possible need and the sheer capacity alone will make it last longer under any condition than a small amount of LiPos as powerful as I know they are. Sorry if the “agreed” seems condescending, I’m just trying to work out where exactly the disagreement is.

[@markanthonysideco4020]

Monstrous build bro! Curious why you use soft cases instead of the usual pelican style hard cases for your battery and ESC. Is there any particular advantage to using soft cases instead?

[@PirateWasHere]

Soft case is super light ( Important! ) and durable , Crashed pretty hard couple times my Esk8, like it did rolls in the air and my precius stuff is in one piece ( even no scratch )

[@gerokatseros]

So what do you suggest to use as an every day commute (about 10 Km distance from home) ? A very good and powerfull skateboard or Janobike 2000W? Which one is easier to use and faster?

[@PirateWasHere]

Janobike 😇

[@gerokatseros]

@@PirateWasHere ty ... janobike ot janobike t85? do they have same range?

[@PirateWasHere]

Well at first consider price, mny Esk8 cost me 3000$ while janobike 800$

[@gerokatseros]

@@PirateWasHereActually i m thinking between Janobike 2000W and Janobike T85 after seeing your videos with those codes that you offer. First is about 820 euros and second about 1000 i think, I wonder which one is better for everyday commute to work if I can afford both

[@lorenzomallegni663]

Hi 🏴‍☠️ your board is awesome! I’m building a crazy board too, upgrading to the top the Chinese beast! Can i have your contact so i can ask you some question? Thanks

[@PirateWasHere]

What do U need to know Bro

[@jamiedeighton7496]

Great video! I just binged watched about 5 of yours 😂 What is that bar on the front and where is it from? I couldn’t quite hear what you said. Thanks 🙏

[@PirateWasHere]

Check it on ali, look for mtb handlebar extender

[@negaopiroca2766]

Nice work. Noticed you built an extra xt90 for charging the whole pack, which is very convenient. Regarding balancing do you still do it from time to time? You have to disconnect all the 4 batteries for that right?

[@PirateWasHere]

I would use xt60 but lipo came with xt90 already... . I got 4 batteries overally, I connected 2x 2 batteries in parallel ( also balance connectors ) and I can use simple 2 port charger to charge 2 battery packs at once ( so 4 batteries )

[@roadview3868]

jak używasz lipo możesz kupić coś takiego (nie wiem wiesz o istnieniu takiej rzeczy) : abc-rc.pl/pl/products/alarm-buzzer-lipo-lipo-alarm-8s-miernik-napiecia-cel-z-alarmem-1579.html i sprawdzać w czasie rzeczywistym jak są pakiety naładowane. można też ustawić alarm że jak osiągną odpowiednie napięcie będzie to piszczeć.

[@PirateWasHere]

Prowadze tez kanal FPVtv , wiem calkiem sporo o lipo ale dzienx 🍕🍻🚀

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

Use a chain. Build an enclosure around it.

[@rottimusprime9560]

I'm just getting into e boarding and I've looked at plenty of them. I can honestly say that just looking at your board. You can see how badass and powerful it is 😳.

[@sparrowhawk5673]

Another awesome video! Thanks

[@707greenlantern]

You sound awesome bro! I'm from California, u sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger, u r Russia or slav Right? Good build!! Subscribed! Hope u keep ur balls. Lol! U give good info.

[@StrainHuntingBudtender]

1. There are now alloy rims from trampa if you had the plastics! Called "Megastars Hubs! 😉 With these, the restlessness caused by the air valve, can be compensated by counterweight screws! If you then add a "Gates GT3-5MGT timing belt instead of the standard 5mm," You will scream with joy when you notice how smooth is all at once❗ 💪😜🎉

[@PirateWasHere]

Actually my belt is 25mm wide 😊

[@StrainHuntingBudtender]

@@PirateWasHereEffective length???

[@PirateWasHere]

I think 375mm, but not sure

[@StrainHuntingBudtender]

Search for: GATES POWERGRIP "GT3-375-5MGT-25"

[@StrainHuntingBudtender]

kscdirect.com/item/GAT%2B375-5MGT-25/GATES%2BCORPORATION%2B-%2BBELTS_375-5MGT-25%2B375-5MGT-25

[@T-Sav]

Great video again, i sold my trampa, Im now ripping it up on an electric dualtron ultra :D

[@PirateWasHere]

Wohaaaaaa show me Bro !!!+

[@PoradoWeara]

Boring zzz. Rion scooter whips dualtron anyway.

[@Dave-ci5qd]

That's funny .I went from my dualtron to a La Croix

[@T-Sav]

​ Cameron Mackenzie Cameron, to make that comment i guess you have had both?Whats the RION like on comfort compared to all the dualtrons? or dont you own anything and just an armchair reviewer? LOL ! I was looking at RION couldn't justify the cost of 5k, could buy a NICE motorbike for that, and guess what mate, motorbikes WHIP all electric scooters :D

[@PoradoWeara]

@@T-Sav it's just obvious. But your right they are expensive

[@davek2690]

Damn that thing is crazy

[@Dave-ci5qd]

Where is the ride footage???

[@PirateWasHere]

Rendering now , it will be long boring ride 35km++

[@harrisonmooney7007]

That thing is sick! Anyways, I am planning on getting that VESC as well. Any issues running 12s foc mode? Are you running foc or bldc?

[@PirateWasHere]

12s FOC with halls turned ON , crazy smooth and powerful set :)

[@morsumbra9692]

Bro sounds like you got a concussion even with the helmet! You musta been FLYING

[@kyledobson5693]

What a dude !

[@franasss1]

Siemka :D Zajebista decha :D Ja zrobilem podobna, niestety na dwoch Focboxach bo mi poprzedniej desce zostaly :) Za to z pakiecikiem poszalalem bo w mojej siedzi pakiet Li-Ion 12s18p na ogniwach Samsung 30q, co daje pojemnosc ponad 50aH :D Nie myslales moze o silnikach APS ale tych wiekszych? 63100?

[@PirateWasHere]

JPRDL !! 18P ..,😲😲🌟 ! ile to wazy ze 100KG 💘💘💘. Nast razem kupie silniki w rozmiarze 8xxx

[@franasss1]

Nie wiem w sumie ile to wazy, nie sprawdzalem bo w sumie chyba nie chce wiedziec 😅 jedno jest pewne, nie chce tego nosic za zadne skarby, w sumie z technicznego punktu widzenia to dwa pakiety 12s9p, wiec jak nie chce dlugich tras robic to jedna bateryjke wyciagam i jest duzo lzejsza 😉 za to zasieg mam na tyle dobry, ze jak robie jakies wypady weekendowe za miasto to spokojnie moge jechac na caly dzien, zasieg 70-90 km zaleznie od jazdy itp. Tzn do tylu dobilem raz ale bateria jeszcze nie byla pusta 😉 w sumie mam pytanie, ten zderzak carbonowy mozesz jakos podlinkowac? Idealnie by sie nadalo do zamontowania oswietlenia w mojej desce 😁

[@sirbazyl86]

Ja sie tez zastanawiam nad APS 80/100 ale nie wiem czy extra moc w porównaniu do extra zużycia bateri jest tego warta. Poza tym musiał bym wstawić coś większego niż 12p zeby widziec roznice. A z tym wiaze sie extra waga.

[@PirateWasHere]

@@sirbazyl86 ale 80rozmiar i 100kv bedzie wydajniejsze niz to co mam , czyli ruszysz szybciej zuzywajac mniejsza moc i dojedziesz dalej, oczywiscie

[@cobyveron]

This is the beastiest board ever just 😍😍😍😍🔥🔥🔥

[@Warcraft5555]

You said that you couldn't find any spur gear drives under 500$... have you visited 3dservisas.eu? If a quality E-Toxx spur gear is too expensive for you. You might want to check them out :)

[@michas8947]

Zrób może 2 kanał polski ?

[@davegrandote9490]

Fajna decha 👍

[@jb-lu4vo]

Cool 😎

[@tomgreysk]

ok I buy one...... helmed

[@TheMitjakozelj]

Waa crazy

[@tomgreysk]

can you meabi help mee???? my last video.

[@PirateWasHere]

My friend has also problem, he checked 2 extra laptops and on one was working

[@viralprimal2281]

What's your direct e-mail ?

[@kornshadow097]

so why did you fall anyway? i didnt see anything on the road you just cursed and flipped...

[@PirateWasHere]

I hit like 20% of the throttle and wheels lose traction at around 30km/h ,at least this is my story / predirection..

[@ciggysads1151]

I got like number 420 lets gooo!!!!

[@phizicks]

Try Bajaboards.. 12KW and 4WD but bloody expensive for the G4X model. bajaboard.com.au

[@happygiraffe9787]

9:08 :D

[@tomwes8390]

Damn you went to hospital? Should have called paramedics because you could have died even do you dont feel it because all hormones rushing. The SOS mode on the light is for night if you crash big then you enable SOS mode so its easier for police or paramedics to find you in the dark

[@PirateWasHere]

nah Bro, I am to young to go to hospital. I am vegan so my body cure very fast, I feel perfect, just needed 2 weeks to back to business . Have a great week 🍕🍻

[@WhoshouseRamshouse]

Too slow