Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's King K. Rool -- Designing For Rivalry

[@megarayquaza2240]

The thing with gangplank galleon is that K Rool becomes an instant top tier whenever it's playing.

[@jvbon646]

I, King K. Rool, have a dream... *Gank-plank Galleon starts playing in the background

[@lewismax4056]

The song has restored my strength

[@cunninggodofdestruction8007]

As a K.rool main I can confirm this

[@LordZanas]

There's something to be said about fighting someone while their theme plays. It adds a certain level of "Ooooh... shit." Aka "Wait, why do I hear boss music?"

[@gojifankotm7927]

It's literally like a performance enhancing drug.

[@cloudedarctrooper]

I like how it's now canon to smash bros lore that King K. Rool just becomes roommates with D.K. and Diddy after his reveal trailer. Like, that's just where he lives between matches. He just lives with them. I find that especially hilarious.

[@prons_gaming5083]

He's like that roommate who's better than you and loves to rub it in.

[@ameep168]

Living with my enemy just so I can rub it in

[@spacebird1598]

You know K. Rool leaves the milk with just the smallest bit left in it so he can claim he didn't leave it empty

[@SpammingY]

@@spacebird1598 And when asked to get banana milk at the store, he'd come back with coconut milk...

[@gabrieltallent1658]

DK is just a big enough ape to forgive K. Rool, and realize that the croc has had it just has hard as him after Rare left the picture.

[@TheWrathAbove]

I'd say that Ultimate's handling of King K. Rool reminds me a lot of how Pit was handled in Brawl in regards to how the team sought to evolve the character naturally rather then just adapt them in a 1-1 manner.

[@Princess_Loaf_]

gasp so we’re getting a king k rool game :000

[@HoodWeegee]

@@orangeslash1667 I think you can take out "may have" in that sentence. Everybody wondering who the hell Pit was in Brawl generated huge interest in Kid Icarus. Nintendo would have to be braindead to not capitalize on that interest and they went above and beyond because Uprising was both a great game and added an honestly hilarious comedy element to Pit and Co. to be used in later Smash games (Palutena's Advice and Pit screaming "I NEVER LEARNED HOW TO READ!" when Star KO'd).

[@spindash64]

@@HoodWeegee It also helped that he was a major player in Subspace Emissary. He wasn’t just some secret unlock, he was effectively the deuteragonist of Mario’s story

[@Princess_Loaf_]

@@HoodWeegee that game was so good that I wanna another kid icarus game

[@graftongazaway5633]

Yet sonic is just a ball

[@SuperGoomba10]

Damn, I never would have even considered how much K. Rool's non-special moves borrow from DK's own moveset. Great video!

[@supremechaosbeing2696]

I thought your profile pic was some twisted parody of mario pissing

[@SuperGoomba10]

@@supremechaosbeing2696 Nah, my profile pic predates that by a fair few years. = P That's just a cape, not... that.

[@supremechaosbeing2696]

@@SuperGoomba10 alrighty

[@prons_gaming5083]

I've noticed it, but I never realized it was him trying to show dk up

[@jameslawrenson1208]

K. Rool's a strictly better character.

[@xiorad]

There is also some kind of duality on his up-special. DK has a large horizontal recovery but an embarrassing vertical movement with an obvious weak point if you attack him from above, meanwhile K. Rool has not only an awesome vertical recovery but also a complete protection above him, showing in that way his t-dominance.

[@DoritoTime]

Not to mention, the helicopter aspect of K Rool's recovery appears to be his way of one-upping the "DongCopter"

[@Zero-gl2ou]

Meaning he can still get up smash.

[@ObeyDaFist]

Everything described in this video is exactly what I love about King K Rool in Smash. All this attention to detail and subtle additions to his character was exactly what this bad guy needed. Probably one of the best revivals for an old character that I've ever seen, and this video is a perfect analysis of K Rool's evolution. Well done!

[@narxmagee727]

I love how the 2 best rivals in this game are fat kings with showboaty personalities. With Dedede revitalizing his rival status from the Kirby games and K.Rool adopting it for Smash without it feeling jarring. True legends.

[@Blucham]

K Rool’s Smash meta truly mirrors encountering him as the boss in his games. EVERYONE went nuts about how OP he was on release. Instant KO spikes, blunderbuss cheese, and you just CAN’T damage him! (Armor, down-smash, etc) And his burials just trap you there to feel extra hopeless. But now that people KNOW HOW TO FIGHT HIM, he’s often ranked bottom 3 of all the fighters 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@AsaLothario]

Now if only it was remotely possible for Little Mac to rise through the ranks like the plot to his games...

[@Blucham]

Madman Asa OMG True 😂

[@teeby2037]

krool is not bottom 3

[@Blucham]

Madman Asa Maybe the point is that the PLAYER has to get good, despite insurmountable odds. In that sense, Little Mac mains are very admirable.

[@Blucham]

2V0LT SSB I’m no expert, and I guess the game has been patched up quite a bit since then. But it’s still pretty funny how he used to feel practically unbeatable, and now it’s not so big a deal.

[@crocketlawnchair259]

K. Rool is better characterized that I am

[@emberthefox4951]

Let's also not forget how King K. also competes with DK in recovery. While DK has a pretty good tool for horizontal recovery, K. Rool sacrifices that to best DK's okay horizontal movement with an amazing vertical ascension.

[@tvoltage]

his reveal trailer still makes me tear up! love you K. ROOL. You HAVE shown up DK in my heart

[@webzter2661]

I like to imagine that the only reason as to why King K. Rool has the big eye is because he tried to mock the Kong's with their own bulging eyes, though he put too much soap in it and now he has an eye infection for life.

[@chadbruis826]

Something that i like about K rool is that he always shows power , in his taunts he always asserts dominance and even when he wins

[@TeamTrainWreck]

Hey there, Stu here! I just wanted to say that I love your K. Rool Designing For vids. This is exactly what we tried to konvey in our Return to Krocodile Isle short. SSBU Rool is the next evolution of K. Rool. Rool might look the same as he did in the first game, but don’t be fooled- he’s never truly given up taking on different monikers...it’s just become more subdued. More subtle. More meta. Instead of a Pirate or Mad Scientist, Rool has chosen to liken himself after the muleish ape.

[@Pooper]

DK’S FINAL SMASH: ORAORAORAORAORA K. ROOL’S FINAL SMASH: *Kong-Eleven*

[@bsharpmajorscale]

? Is this a joke I'm too Super Mario 64 to understand?

[@Pooper]

@@bsharpmajorscale Nah. It’s a joke I had to steel.

[@TheGame052]

@@Pooper Don't worry, the joke didn't miss, it just went over his head

[@DonnieDragon05]

As soon as K. Rool was introduced, me as a youngon, not knowing who he even was, I thought he was maybe just some random character that I'd never play as... And now I'm a K. Rool Main- And that back air is freaking amazing-

[@prons_gaming5083]

Agreed. I knew of k rool before he was revealed, but I'd never played dkc. I used to main ridley, but took up k rool when I realized i enjoyed playing him more and his moveset is so much better

[@Apeman_king_of_apes]

fingers are now crossed we get a new DK game with K Rool in it

[@prons_gaming5083]

I'd like a dkc returns game with k rool.

[@andrewgerardo2349]

You know I only ever heard K Rools theme in his reveal so when you showcased it HOLY CRAP ITS AMAZING

[@mudshrooze]

K Rool has been my top hope since Melee. And while most of the dlc has been dissapointing I've had no true problems. K. Rool is literally everything I wanted. Couldn't be more perfect

[@Schmack]

As a day one K. Rool main, my sole reason for sticking with my mid tier king through all these years, is how fucking cool he is. I always loved him as a character in DK64, so the second I saw that he was being added to Ultimate, I knew who I was maining. Landing a back air spike with K. Rool in a tournament match is one of the best feelings I've ever felt while playing a video game.

[@MaxxMinton]

“Just like a balloon” is basically your catchphrase. I love it Gives me big “not even close baby!” vibes

[@justinalicea1590]

6:30 Realization that furthers that dynamic: down throw. Donkey Kong bounces his opponent off of the ground. King K Rool straight up buries them in the dirt.

[@Crakinator]

I didn’t know who K Rool was before he came to SSBU and now he’s both my favorite character in the cast and my main. IF there’s gonna be another SSB, and IF the cast is downsized in it, I REALLY hope he’s not cut from it. K Rool is so much fun.

[@prons_gaming5083]

I was really hyped for ridley before ssbu released, but was extremely disappointed in his moveset and his weight upon release. I've since taken up K rool, and I'll never go back. He's my favorite character in the game, and has my favorite moveset. That delicious back air spike is the most hype hit in the game imo

[@jameslawrenson1208]

Same!

[@TJ-Henry-Yoshi]

I've rewatched this video 3 times and I I'm still trying to figure out how you made this video so rewatchable.

[@toe_sucker_4165]

I'm gonna say the pacing. It's perfect for focusing, browsing the comments, and even doing other things.

[@DoritoTime]

It's because K Rool can do DK's forward smash in half an A press

[@Hello_World_not_taken]

Prior to ultimate, i only knew K. Rool from 64 and Jungle Climber And I was still HYPED to see that brass-bellied Croc!

[@toast4248]

I already noticed the parallels between DK and K. Rool’s movesets, but damn I didn’t think there were _that_ many

[@magmarxiogaming6717]

i think we can all agree at this point that the Kremling King was made to perfection in smash. whenever I watch t he reveal trailer for him I've always gotten chills at the same point each time. and this video truly helped drive home the fact that K Rool is peak perfection for smash

[@UltraPaperGamer]

Why would they cut K Rool from the next smash? DK only has 3 characthers. I see cutting three Mario Characthers before they cut any from DK.

[@bombs2848]

I feel like if any characters got cut next game it would be pichu and/or young link. If Nintendo and Microsoft still have a good relationship if a new smash game gets released then banjo would likely stay.

[@exoticjamm]

Why should they have to cut characters at all? If they wanted to up ultimate’s “Everyone is here” they’re gonna have to do something really big in order to surpass that and removing characters would not help that

[@bombs2848]

@@exoticjamm I'm not saying they have to cut characters, I just think if they had to cut characters for some reason that those would be the most likely to be axed.

[@TheTrickmeister]

Hype Train I feel Banjo, and now, Steve, are returning for the next game or just set to stay at this point. Banjo was a dream pick for many so to remove him would hurt. Steve on the other hand, is just too iconic for a new generation to remove.

[@phantomgamer9264]

@@exoticjamm they probably not cause Ultimate is a big project that would take forever to port to newer consoles Even Sakurai said this is probably never gonna be done again

[@AtomToast]

krools final smash does actually kill the opponent. It's hard to see and I only found out after reading a description of it but if you look closely at the eye of the DK statue you can see all the enemies he hit with his final smash there.

[@mikebeckett03]

This video perfectly illustrates what I love about King K. Rool, and for that, you earned a sub :>

[@PrettyKoolCrocodile]

K. Rool's design is the best of Ultimate imo. Very accurate video summing up why I adore K. Rool and him arriving to Smash. The designers knocked it out of the park with it in nearly every aspect. What a magnificent revival.

[@zacksreviews2001]

12:05 I don’t want to be THAT guy but the response to K. Rool getting into Smash was absolutely huge! Not to mention the huge outcry for him to get into Smash via the fighter ballot left a pretty big impact as well. If they do make another Smash game than I think K. Rool is here to stay, downsized roster or not, regardless this was a great video!

[@xandan1668]

You know what? With what you've said the next DK game should make K. Rool a playable character that gives you an alternative ending where K. Rool Wins.

[@carlossanblas5807]

Man, this deserves more subscribers

[@ffiiggyy]

Mario and Wario also have their own parallels and I hope you can also look into it.

[@braydenbanks4228]

It certainly helps that you cannot physically make Gang Plank Galleon sound bad...

[@Loogi_FGC]

The fact that King Kruiser IV from DK Jungle Climber was being played at the start of the video, I had to share this with my friends instantly. Love this vid.

[@dotdash9014]

YOOOOO, THESE VIDEOS ARE SO GOOD. PLZ CONTINUE

[@WolfmanArt]

Gang Plank Galleon is one of my favorite Smash soundtracks

[@TheGigamindd]

This is just a video Praising and Calling King K. Rool a Chad and I love it.

[@jcplays5831]

My friend who mains K. Rool put it best “ He absolutely isn’t the best character, but he is absolutely the most fun to play” seriously my K. Rool dittos with him bring out the most insane crap you’ll ever see.

[@Wario_B]

I absolutely agree with that

[@koopaon1052]

In King Krusha K. Rool's intro in DK 64, he says "thank you." But it sound more like 1:40

[@pebbletheYT]

Thats what people say to me when i enter random shoes

[@pugman9672]

If only sonic received that much love from the smash team.

[@xandan1668]

You can blame sega for that.

[@Azureblue25]

Ikr, and Sonic should’ve gotten a revamped moveset more inspired by Sonic Battle, and Shadow should’ve been added to the base game as an echo fighter for Sonic to play into the rivals role more and it’d be fitting to have him in the game because he’s the Ultimate lifeform in the Ultimate Smash game, plus we could’ve gotten Dr. Eggman as well in Fighters Pass 2 and if he was released in June of 2021 it would’ve been in time for Sonic’s 30th anniversary and plus Eggman has been with Sonic in every game since the beginning and Eggman would play well into the rivalry deal really well too so it’d be fitting and we’d have all the most iconic video game villains in Smash. We got Bowser, Ganondorf, Sephiroth, King K. Rool, Mewtwo, King Dedede, and Ridley in the game, Dr. Eggman was the only missing piece left to complete the big 8 villains in Smash Ultimate. Also fitting since the max player limit for Ultimate is 8 players. So we could’ve gotten both Shadow & Dr. Eggman as playable characters if Sega didn’t ask for too much money when and if Nintendo asked them if they could add playable Sonic characters for Smash Ultimate. If it were up to me I would’ve cut Richter’s slot from the game and let him be an alt skin for Simon so he’s not cut completely and let Shadow take up that empty slot as a semi echo fighter for Sonic, and for Fighters Pass 2, I would’ve cut Min Min, Pyra/Mythra and Kazuya from the game so they could be replaced by Dante, Dr. Eggman and any Legend of Zelda character or possibly a 2 or 3 or 4 in one Zelda character like the Champions from the Breath of the Wild because Legend of Zelda deserves more representation in Smash as far as playable characters just as much as Sonic, and both Princess Zelda & Ganondorf should’ve been given a more revamped moveset besides what we got because they’re still both bottom tier in the Smash Ultimate official tier list, K. Rool should’ve never been nerfed, he would’ve been fine as a B tier character and Kirby should’ve gotten a revamped moveset so they could both exit bottom tier as well, and Donkey Kong should’ve gotten a revamped moveset as well so he could escape C tier, Mario should’ve gotten a new up special that covers a greater distance inspired by Cappy from Super Mario Odyssey but at least he’s A tier so he’s still respectable, Mewtwo should’ve gotten a more revamped moveset so he could escape from C tier, Little Mac should’ve gotten a new up special and buffed aerial attacks so he can escape out of bottom tier, and maybe buff King Dedede a bit as well so he can escape out of bottom tier too, and maybe nerf Wolf a bit because he honestly doesn’t deserve an S tier ranking as probably the least memorable villain in all of Smash Ultimate, maybe put him at C tier.

[@seb_masou3179]

I think another interesting thing worth noting is that DK has also been known for all of his Specials (except Down B) having pretty strong armor. How does K Rool up that? By having **_native_** (belly) armor that protects him at all times, and also takes longer to break than the armor from one of DK's specials. How does he do it

[@Fryer_0844]

the editing is really good, its also preety informational, i liked the video a lot

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

And thus our heavenly father rose up on his jetpack, asserting dominance over all sapient beings. And as he did that, he said "This is my finest hour!"

[@edwardperkins1225]

Some of the rivalry is present in the original games. In DKC1 K. Rule is larger in comparison to DK than in Smash. Always felt he was the bigger stronger meaner one even back then. In DKC1 he jumps all the way accross the arena with ease higher and faster than you can jump. Glad he got a lot of his moves from the DKC games. Crown throw = DKC1, Firing Cannonball and Vacume Gun = DKC2, Propeller Flight = DKC3, and Boxing Glove Punch and DK Isle Destroying Final Smash = DK64. Other players are lucky his cannonballs in Smash are nothing compared to how then were in the DKC2 last boss. No move using the gun as a thruster to move across the ground, but I'm impressed at the number of actual moves from the games that made it in.

[@ballisticboo7808]

The gun thruster should be dash attack

[@crimsonking9882]

Fun fact King K.rool is actually one of my mains

[@michaeld2799md]

Your description on King K. Rools play-style is spot on👍 I’ve been maining him since he came out and when you mentioned that we punish any mistake other players make, that’s a FACT. And the UP-CROWN😂😂 I will say though his recovery is overpowered in my opinion. For how strong he is he shouldn’t be able to fly that high up.

[@BigDnotimpressed]

Some of K. Rool's moves also match BOWSER. And his rivalry with DK being enhanced by Smash is incredibly fitting considering the smash franchise also shaped most of Donkey Kong's fighting style.

[@Ceiling559]

Damn the alliteration

[@pksprite6401]

Honestly Bowser in smash is underrated. There was nothing more intimidating as a kid than reaching Bowser in New Super Mario Bros Wii, and Smash shows this off perfectly.

[@emilianoramirezlopez9684]

i love this video, i come back every now and them just to watch this analysis.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

YESSSSS. My Smash Ballot is beyond justified! You know I always wondered why K Rool ran like that, given that he already had a very distinct run cycle. But as you guys always do, you shone a light on why it's way more interesting than a first glance could ever portray. Great vid my dudes. I wonder if you sped up his "YEAH! THANK YOU!" would you get Beedle from Wind Waker?

[@ProfessM]

Okay this vid needs more attention. Also explains why I'm more likely to use the King over DK. I mean I'll pick the goddess of Phazon first if I pick bad guys in Smash but that's just cause you don't get more evil then her.

[@bepisthescienceman4202]

We need a king k rool game just about beeting up the other dk villains

[@spindash64]

That would be a hilarious set up to a game with him as the main villain. Just him slumping in his lair, then seeing these upstarts on his TV, and deciding to beat the SNOT out of them to prove he is the ONLY one worthy of defeating Donkey Kong

[@PyroPikmin500VivianShadowGirl]

I would play that in a heartbeat!

[@Azureblue25]

Some of the bosses could be Ghastly Kong from Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, The Tikki King from Returns, both Lord Fredrick the Walrus King and the hammer wielding Polar Bear from Tropical Freeze, a giant shark inspired boss because K. Rool got attacked by Sharks after he was defeated in DKC2, also a giant flying bird boss because he was chased by one at the end of DKC3, also I think Kludge from Donkey Kong Barrel Blast would serve as a good first boss for the game, plus he’s been said to give K. Rool trouble due to his strength when he gets riled up but he’s pretty dumb at the same time so it wouldn’t be too hard for K. Rool to capitalize on his weaknesses, plus since Donkey Kong has fought other Kong’s it’s only fitting for King K. Rool to fight another Kremling, and probably more interesting new bosses, and the final boss for K. Rool to defeat should be a new giant bipedal hippo inspired boss with an ugly menacing look and the aggressive temperament of a real life Hippo as the cherry on top, because Hippos & Crocodiles have a rivalry in real life.

[@isaiahrivera7925]

One thing that I noticed nobody mentioned is that in his down air, K Rool does a whole flip, just showing that he can, while still coming out on the same frame as DK's

[@gabrielfarley3610]

Im gonna cry if he gets cut. He's my favorite character in the game

[@maximus4765]

The top tier fan VS the Kremling king enjoyer.

[@PrettyKoolCrocodile]

Late but that made my day

[@spindash64]

I’m a sucker for the chunky boys in Smash. Bowser, Dedede, K Rool, DK…

[@spindash64]

I’m a sucker for the chunky boys in Smash. Bowser, Dedede, K Rool, DK…

[@SpiralPoli]

Say what you want but the rivalry between K Rool vs Donkey Kong was done kind of well in the cartoon. It was comedic but also exciting at times.

[@lasercraft32]

I really love these analysis videos where you talk about Smash Bros movesets... I never realized before how insanely well designed they are! I always thought it was lame how characters like Bowser aren't characterized the way they are in their actual games, but seeing these new perspectives really changes things, and makes me consider whether there are alternative reasons for their design philosophies. :)

[@雪鷹魚英語培訓的領航]

Well written dude!

[@zigslotheon]

Dedede: Ya merely adopted da rivalry. Ah was bo’n innit!

[@hyperhedgehog7]

wow what an unexpectedly interesting video to be recommended

[@UltimateTS64]

Those alliteration were 👌🏾

[@gojifankotm7927]

Whenever somebody asks why I main K Rool, I direct them to this video. Oh, and also *THICC BOI.*

[@t1di33]

9:39 THE8BITDRUMMER?

[@FairyKid64]

In K. Rool's final smash, the opponent(s) actually do show up on D.K. Isle in DK's eyes.

[@ParmMannREBORN]

I appreciate the Ace Attorney gag

[@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771]

It's a really good video but I don't trust people who do video game rival montages without Star Wolf

[@crep50]

An &Knuckles joke in 2020 was not what I was expecting at all

[@Scrubermensch]

DKC is my fav platform franchise. I don't even own a switch but I was SOOOO happy, when the King got announced! He's finally back!

[@Arctic_Rex]

You ready already, or wheezy oh? A bestial crushin’, easy though I'm total-ly the very dope D-N-A, now! You need a shanty, shanty, shanty: a song You're an extremely scary regent that conquers us all You go: La, lalala, lalalalalalala La, lalala, lalalalalalala La, lalala, lalalalalalala la la la...!

[@Gruntilda-Winkybunion]

i love your Channel! covering all my favourite things 😌👌

[@wepeanutthree5553]

this is a great video. I would not mind seeing how the design of diddy in turn plays off of dk. also, little sad you could not extend this analysis to his special moves or his technical game plan.

[@shadowandroid758]

You forgot the comparables between King K. and Diddy. Mainly the similarities in their recoveries and two projectiles (each). So this grudge is against all present Kongs.

[@kai_lopez9855]

Time to go to the battlefield let's show Donkey Kong who rules!

[@raikodante5652]

👑🐊 King K. Rules🐊👑

[@connormcnulty6377]

I was juggling my brother with K. Rool in Smash the other day, and he was complaining that I was just toying with him. Would King K. Rool do it any other way?

[@icngames1032]

K.Rool's design in Ultimate is that of a bully. Projectiles to zone you, armor to power through your moves, and will pound you into the ground for trying to stand up against him. But every single one of his strengths, is a weakness. His crown can be stolen to stun him, his armor can be shattered to shield break him, and his powerful attacks are followed by hefty end lag.

[@PuppetOne]

Thank you for the red vs blue reference

[@denraimei32]

If you're open for suggestions, you should look at Battletoads' design for personality.

[@pyrrhickong]

Funnily enough, a couple months after writing this episode, I was asked by a discord server to make a moveset for a Smash Bros moveset competition, and ended up choosing Rash. Love what's consistently done with those characters, but I'd really wanna dive into their incarnations in Shovel Knight and Killer Instinct to see how they've translated their classic appeal to the modern context, to pair with what the 2020 game did with the characters. docs.google.com/document/d/1rzEyz_PXNvWu5-a6SaGz7sKBkh8vpjgAEPufuCFOnig if curious

[@Boss-mw1jv]

I actually noticed this after watching this video but the similar run animations can also be seen with Mario and bowser (Just thought I’d point it out) 5:02 also this bit hit really hard at least for me is it just me

[@MagikCactus]

Rool mains rise up!

[@Squiddard]

Yo what’s the name of that song at the end?

[@SirNarax]

Oh it matters to me if he gets cut. I only bought and play smash for the kroc lol.

[@PyroPikmin500VivianShadowGirl]

That's what I did. When K. Rool was announced for smash ultimate I fell in love with the king. I didn't have a switch at the time so I preordered the game and a switch on Amazon.

[@Messed-Up]

king k rool manes where u at?

[@SlurpyTheDog]

1:01 MY BOI PROFESSOR PESTER MADE THE PIC LETS GOOOOOO I really really really really like viva piñata

[@alec.coffee7201]

King K. Rool is Love is Live

[@EikeKusch776]

What's the name of the villain song at end of video

[@codytoeung5089]

I figured the fair was meant to be copying Diddy, stealing from one of his rivals while also showing how he’s a lot more limber than his bigger rival and matching more with the lesser rival. What’s a bigger insult than that! Let’s hope he’s not cut. He got in because if popularity so Sakurai would know fans wouldn’t appreciate cutting someone they had asked for years to get in. I am surprised he hasn’t been in any spin-offs considering his newfound popularity Also The8bitDrummer reference heck yeah

[@bobbyboswell13]

what on earth is that song at the very end? i want to listen to the full thing but have zero clue how to find it

[@coyraig8332]

Also both up specials are spinny flights

[@spindash64]

I like to imagine this is revenge for being thrashed so hard as to be erased from the franchise

[@large_hadron_colander8301]

1:38 So we all agree King K. Rool says 'F*ck you' at the beginning of his DK64 battle, right?

[@spindash64]

No, he’s saying “Yeah, Thank You!” He’s showboating, celebrating before he even wins.

[@JezElectro13]

1:39 am i the only one who at first instead of "Thank you" heard "F@!? you"

[@chrisp4643]

Their DK 64 voices were the best

[@BrosFromNotherMother]

Love it. I think the DK 3 will be locked in to the next smash

[@StoryTeller796]

Now, if they were to do stuff like this to other villains, especially to Bowser Jr, since his final Smash could honestly be changed in an Airship cinematic, gain the ability to switch from immovable fortress to graffiti trickster, and be the second character to have a Pokemon-like Palette swap, with the Koopalings each being their own character that do not need the Koopa Clown Car, instead they need their magic. Disclaimer before I get into this, this is a disorganized set of ideas that make sense for each of the characters. I would much rather have this be used by Designing For or someone else who is interested in redesigning characters make a professional video detailing their movesets in great detail. Wendy can summon water spouts with her Up Special, which work basically like how they do in that Mario Stage that Kamek changes the lay-out of and are shrunken down for balancing reasons, down to the size of Kragg from Rivals of Aether's Up special. She is the second lightest of the bunch, being around Inkling's weight. She also uses a lot of Ring Magic for her attacks, basically all of her aerials and the Nuetral Special can be pressed even when she is still in her shell for her Dash Attack. They work practically the same as they do in the New Super Mario Mario games, they bounce off of Surfaces, they disappear if they either collide with someone else, gets more than 3 summoned or after 5 bounces, and they can only be affect by reflectors. No attacks can make them dissappear. So unless Wendy decides to make another ring over her limit or they bounce to their limit (yes, they can bounce off of the Blastzone!) they will stay on the screen forever. Now, considering how slow these Rings are, counters basically count as having hit the opponent so you can use one to cancel out the Rings, they can be absorbed and are easy to manipulate with reflectors, they can be incredibly easy to deal with. She can also bounce her side special, which is basically like the Spin Dash of Sonic, except that she can still fire Rings while she is in her shell and it can be tapped to briefly leap off the ground. It does only ends according to how long you charged it for, so try to be careful not to use it off of the ledge. Oh, and all of the Koopalings share this move, with different variants of it. I don't know what to give her for her Down Special though, definitely something related to ice. Overall, Wendy will try to focus on Combo's and Pressure, which is basically what she constantly does in all of her interpretations. Roy is the beefiest of the bunch, being able to power through practically every weak attack due to him focusing more on his tough guy mechanic than Bowser, which is a reference to both his personality in the Mario and Luigi games and to his stats in the remakes. Because of this, though he isn't the heaviest of the bunch, he's still the second heaviest, being around King K Rool's weight. He basically uses his shell the second most often, though I don't know what to give him for his Up Special. I don't want to give him Bowser's Up special but I also don't want to give him the Koopa Clown car, since the former would limit his mobility and I want him to constantly be moving around the stage slowly and I don't want to give him something that A) would be something that belongs only to Bowser Jr and B) would feel like a throw-away special that you only use for your recovery because the Koopa Clown Car isn't the Winged Pikmin. Actually, why not just give him his Bill Blaster Cannon and let him Rocket-Jump off of it? Would be a cool idea and would keep in line with his Nuetral Special, though I would've loved if it would have been a consequence of Nuetral Special rather than be relegated to mapping it to a special button. Hmm, what a Dilemna... So anyway! Most of his moves would be bruiser/slugger-like moves where he really puts his fists right where they would hurt the most to his opponents, and his dash attack can even be a 2-parter like Simon and Richter's where he first gets into his shell, doing multi-hitting damage before launching them upwards, though you could also use it to drag an opponent close to the blast zone and then Body Bash them near the edge! The move is slow and relatively easy to jump over and punish, though it can still catch opponents off-guard if they aren't careful. For his Nuetral Special, it would be his cannon, which can be switched around what type of Bullet Bill it fires out through the Special. Only 10 normal ones and 5 red ones can be out at a time, the red ones count as 2 normal ones, they are projectiles, the red ones track and blow up, the Black ones just travel forwards and can be used as platforms, though they do blow up if they strike at the tip. Roy has shown himself time and time again to be a rebel teen who cares not for a fair fight, he just wants to beat you into the dirt and be done with it, his whole moveset should reflect this approach to how he fights. Larry has great aerial mobility though mediocre ground mobility and a turn-around animation that would make most heavies cringe at the thought of having, which is all in reference to the fact that in the Main Super Mario Bros games he usually jumps from place to place rather than run to them. He is also the fourth lightest Koopaling of the bunch, which means that he is about Mario's weight. He has a bouncable energy projectile that can be countered like Ryu's shoryuken with regular attacks and energy projectiles (Like Samus' Charge shots), though bounces off of any physical projectiles (like Link's Boomerang), or solid surfaces. For his Side Special gimmick, he's the most plain of the bunch. He just bounces off of Surfaces, which with the other Koopalings they crash right into them though Larry? He is chaotic with his shell, to the point where he uses his shell the most often. In his Dash Attack, Nuetral Air, All of his Tilts, with his Up and Side each having a magic wand part to them, and Down Air, which is a blend between his Wand and his shell attack. Overall, the most awkward and unwieldy of the bunch, usually being unstoppable with his Shell and magic attacks and can easily just crash right threw any onslaught that the opponent brings him, and having full blown access to the entire stage. I also have no clue what to give him for his down Special, Ludwig is basically the 3rd lightest, being Luigi's weight, and he's also the only Koopaling to also have Yoshi's Jump. He does have an impressive Nuetral Special, being able to summon 5 weak yet multi-hitting shots of fiery magic that can try to hone in on the opponent, with mediocre success and a distinct lack of any real KO power unlike Larry's. He uses a lot of magic throughout his moveset like a Marth main with a glowstick that deals loads of damage and KO the opponent at a reasonable 80-120%. Basically, all of his moves must be put Iggy is the 3rd heaviest and the fastest of the bunch, being around Hero's weight, has his magic for his Nuetral Special being an Aimable straight shot that powers up projectiles whilst turning them from his opponent's to his, has his Chain Chomp Chariot (which apparently is called a carriage, instead of actually having a name. Huh, weird) for his Down Special, which while the little chomper can be left alone, he will immediately rush towards the opponent in intervals, which can give the opponent ample opportunity to jump on the device behind the Chain Chomp and take control of it. Which would mean that an Iggy player must know when to abandon the Chain Chomp for pressure and Chaos. Lemmy is the Lightest of the bunch and usually has little endlag in his moves, has his Bouncy Ball projectiles which he can use to control the opponent's mobility options and to give himself extra mobility and something to bounce off of, has the fastest Shell spin that practically doesn't do much damage and bounces off of opponents at merely hitting them Morton is the heaviest and the slowest, heavier than K Rool though lighter than Bowser, is slow enough that he needs to Dash to get from point A to point B, only fully Charged Smash attacks can make him stop, he slams his hammer about with no one to stop him, and practically has the only sure-fire weakness of being grabbed. He is the epitome of the impenetrable fortress that can be simply moved by a grab. To be continued...

[@pebbletheYT]

My man just made a whole Wikipedia page

[@StoryTeller796]

@@pebbletheYT and I never went back to update it.

[@jarerarebear1765]

They'd be fools to not include K. Rool in the next Smash Bros game. He's already so well designed for Ultimate, and it's not like we're drowning in Donkey Kong characters in the Smash Bros series. There are as many Donkey Kong characters in as there are different versions of Link and Samus.