Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - Who has the Strongest Counter?

[@NintenUnity]

Note: Corrin and the Mii Swordfighter were ranked based on vertical knockback, the rest based on horizontal knockback. What do you want to see next? :)

[@MasterMarx]

All Assist Trophies ranked on damage.

[@mileselzorro2759]

Yes

[@mileselzorro2759]

@Charles Davis yes

[@jayrxen]

The strongest items?

[@e-girl4308]

Did you do Strongest Up Smash? Or Strongest Up B? If not, please consider doing one of these.

[@ChandelierEd]

The strongest Counter by damage. Note, many characters do the same damage so they were tied for the highest placing, but the placing is still according to how many Characters/variations of a character were used. #22 Lucario (No Aura)- 9.9% #21 Greninja- 13.2% #20 Shulk (Smash)- 14.4% #18 Shulk (Shield)- 24% #18 Lucario (Max Aura)- 24% #16 Peach- 25.2% #16 Daisy- 25.2% #15 Shulk (Speed)- 33.6% #11 Corrin- 44.3% #11 Marth- 44.3% #11 Lucina- 44.3% #11 Ike- 44.3% #7 Palutena- 48% #7 Little Mac- 48% #7 Shulk (Jump)- 48% #7 Shulk (No Art)- 48% #5 Chrom- 49.8% #5 Roy- 49.8% #2 Mii Sword Fighter- 55.4% #2 Mii Brawler- 55.4% #2 King K. Rool- 55.4% #1 Shulk (Buster)- 67.2%

[@boiant0747]

Candle Maker this is what I needed

[@neptune7160]

Thank you because this video is useless

[@diegofelipecespedes8952]

@@neptune7160 the video is not useless, it is just not what we expected, still this video took time and we should appreciate that

[@neptune7160]

@@diegofelipecespedes8952 Damage or Kill Percent would be more helpful than knockback at 0%

[@kevinmartinibarra2222]

And Incineroar? Is my main bro cmon.

[@destruccionH]

2:37 i say god *D A M N* that looks so satisfying

[@853Nynn]

Predictabo!!

[@ciaranpatrick6859]

I fucking love the mii fighters

[@milesshaw9059]

That is quite the counter... although i feel like it's a feint

[@gabrielmejia6230]

I know y do people not like mii fighters

[@rainermist2357]

If these guys get their custom moves in tournaments (unlike in 4), they actually have really good potential.

[@waheedabdullah6371]

Do every character taunt but affected by the Super/Poison Mushroom. Just to see what their voices sound like when high-pitched/deep

[@cosmicdunsparce]

Pit star KO while tiny is hilarious

[@e-girl4308]

Waheed Abdullah, YAAASSS!!!

[@abcaretheonlylettersiknow7834]

Go to special smash Make everybody mini Turn on only poison mushroom. Ur welcome ;)

[@Blueybeak]

Everyone’s too lazy to do that imamanboy 777

[@isntabelle]

For some reason Morgan's voice in jokers taunt is effected but in oyra and myrthra taunt Rex's voice isn't effected

[@JoshVoid]

Shulk on Tests *Gets an A* 2:59

[@apple_ju1c374]

*this is a GOOD result*

[@xynix1549]

VISION

[@catarathegato1240]

*mom would be very proud*

[@8008-e3u]

*victory theme plays*

[@kofatsu]

I'M REALLY FEELING IT

[@No0pe]

God damn I love mii brawler's counter. Strongest non-powered up counter while being satisfying to land

[@markheath14]

Whoa that's mii brawlers counter?! Shiiiit I think I found a new main. I dont care if he sucks. That judokarateninja throw was awesome.

[@Slyyam123]

Mark Heath well he’s actually pretty decent. just always set your up special to helicopter kick

[@nerothewateruser8030]

Why not Soaring Axe Kick? You can stop the kick at the top so it's more reliable now

[@julianhernandez6230]

Mark Heath good for yoy

[@LinusTheSecond]

Will Down how about trying them out before saying they suck?

[@ravianwitte8151]

@@willdown795 actually, mii swordfighter and gunner are now A-tier lmao

[@MoodyReeper02N8]

Everytime I use greninjas counter I just think “You’re already dead”

[@lasigna0212]

NANI!?

[@realchezboi]

@@lasigna0212 *red lightning kill screen*

[@10.ikadekanandadwipayadnya83]

So, K rool (a croc with a golden stomach) has a better counter than palutena (a goddes) This is why k rool is my main

[@ian-qz9lq]

smash logic 👍

[@skinnycat6878]

*it's actually a brass belly

[@sirocco2810]

No it's just a unit of the highest caliber

[@elresbalon3608]

The character not counter Link/Young Link/Toon Link Meta Knigth Robin Cloud

[@QizLizWiz]

Actually... it's armour, not a part of K.Rool

[@lloydaran]

1:29 technically, Mii Swordfighter's counter kills in FD, but I understand that counting both vertical and horizontal knockback is tricky. "Kill %" would be better.

[@Lyle_Plays]

This is a good -result- video :)

[@julianhernandez6230]

Meme Boi YLL what about result?

[@victorassemble352]

@@julianhernandez6230 when shulk won he said that "this is a good result"

[@julianhernandez6230]

Victor Assemble ???

[@gravity8120]

When it said Speed and Shield Monado Arts reduce Attack, I didn't realise that meant knockback as well as damage. But hey, you can't ignore the Buster Vision damage!

[@metamarx8409]

3 minutes of a hedgehog being abused, someone call PETA.

[@hamzaalkhulaidi9942]

yeah that is true

[@MDWolfe-ks5fu]

No, call his agent.

[@Hellwaterva]

they’ll be upset they couldn’t do it tthe selves

[@shredy5791]

3:38 minutes of my main being tortured

[@Kobrah_]

Rekt

[@jimjams6789]

i know right he's my main too why did they have to do sonic dirty :(

[@supersonicgamer7747]

Why is he being tortured

[@whatrustaringat508]

Lol sorry about you...

[@CardiacYew]

Your loss is my gain, ps im a mario main

[@xHarry777]

I'm probably gonna post this on every video now, but when the video is based on knockback, you should call something like "Most powerful" or "most effective". When it's based on damage, you could call it "most damaging" or just strongest.

[@DestinySeeks]

If one were to change the title, it would probably be “Whose Counter does the most damage/knockback”, but I’d never call it “most effective”. I mean, take neutral B for example. You’ve got arrows, energy blasts, guns, but then you’ve got punches and swords as well. The word effective is vague as vague can be in this situation. It can be effective at killing someone, but then it can also be effective at damaging someone, effective at killing someone at range, effective at edgeguarding. As a video title, “effective” is just not explicit enough to tell you what the video is about, not to mention it’s boring. imo it’s already good enough as it is, with whether it’s based on knockback or damage shown right as soon as you click on the video. Changing the name would kinda make it lose its flair, and the series has been called this for a while now. I imagine more people will complain if the title changed than if it didn’t.

[@xHarry777]

That's really just one of any different names it could be. I agree that it's not a great choice, host something I threw in there. I'm sure it's not gonna be changed, I just figured I'd try to help

[@johboat3534]

I mean. Odds are they won't pay attention to the same comment each time. If it were me, I'd just ignore these kinds of comments

[@TheQuarterGuy]

Mii Brawler: "PREDICTABO!"

[@DarkRedPsycho92]

The Mii Brawler learned that from Geese Howard. 😂

[@jgordan775]

DarkRedPsycho92 or Dimitri Vegas sub zero

[@bru9383]

Oh hey, Quarter Guy! Didn't expect to see you here.

[@zombieguy4444]

The strongest counter is Witch Time 😆

[@celula1395]

True dat

[@itsmevarnami]

it got nerfed

[@technomancer3373]

Zombie Guy not anymore

[@au_rie]

no bayo is low tier now

[@TheArchsage74]

Don't laugh at your own joke.

[@Crumble_n_use]

Given the fact that you're playing fire emblem fates music, we all know it's gonna be my boy/girl Corrin. *Watched video full* DAMMIT

[@TheMasterBlaze]

Ikr!? Oh how the mighty have fallen!

[@XLgamer1055]

Ya know, killing wise mii swordfighter and Corrin should be higher up, sure it does less damage but it kills

[@Ah-ty5qc]

This was based on knockback not damage

[@MastrDante]

mudkipsonic1055 but corrins counter is not as strong as it used to be.

[@hunnterh]

mudkipsonic1055 They nerfed corrin’s counter. Corrin had the strongest counter back in smash 4 with a damage multiplier of 1.3 I believe.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

@@hunnterh no. Roy's counter multiplier was x1.35

[@hunnterh]

LloydTheZorua www.ssbwiki.com/Counter_Surge Look under description in the third paragraph. Corrin, prior to the 1.1.3 smash update, had the strongest non customizable counter

[@aguy9085]

This affirms my belief that Mii Brawler isn't here to have a friendly fight

[@layerex3957]

I mean, just look at the official render. Brawler is FUCKIN' PISSED

[@kaden4418]

Shulk: Vision! *counter attacks* Me: I had a vision once...

[@GarlicToastOooo]

Quick reminder that mii brawler has a 1.5X multiplier on his counter, making it the most damaging in the game. Second most damaging does 1.25x

[@nancyvelardenv]

It also has most knockback with shulk smash art

[@justingarssacoche]

This is distance lauched and not dammage*

[@Anansi-y5m]

He said that

[@blazingkite8983]

It said knockback at 0% not Damage % =_=

[@justingarssacoche]

@@Anansi-y5m just saw it

[@tildenwall5758]

Wouldn’t change nr 1, shulk will do the highway dmg if he uses buster

[@scarffoxandfriends9401]

Mii swordfighter actually killed on FD despite being in the middle =b

[@yoshifan2334]

What the actual hell did lucario do to sakurai to deserve this, it’s like about the same KB as revenge, vs a fully charged ore club. His counter used to be pretty ok in smash 4

[@jgordan775]

yoshifan2334 it doesn’t scale with the hit, only aura

[@holylarcenist9596]

It’s actually the best in the game imo

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

This is fucking facinating. I play around with counters so it's cool to see them lined-up like this.

[@vincentpham7679]

2:15 King K Rool: You can't stop the croc with the belly made of brass, I'm thicc. I got this line from Gangplank Galleon with lyrics.

[@Shady_Fungus]

Through the power of Smash, many things are possible.

[@matsuoka9559]

i don’t really know exactly why but i loooove characters that have counters. all my mains rn have counters lol

[@Sonicice24]

Shulk hurt Sonic :(

[@youraveragejoe2]

😂

[@cosmicdunsparce]

The fandom has hurt Sonic more than anything can

[@TiredofGaming]

@@cosmicdunsparce What about his new movie?

[@Roto3]

@@cosmicdunsparce true.

[@menacing_name]

this is a good result!

[@NotJohn3333]

Mii brawler has the coolest final smash out of all the characters... Besides k rool of course...

[@rivaraptor4277]

Ridley?

[@nancyvelardenv]

Lol I like watching it

[@nancyvelardenv]

Honestly such an underrated character

[@NightShadow720]

While Buster delivers more damage during counter, Smash counter hits Shulk's opponents way further.

[@ruiribeiro8010]

Isnt greninja's stronger when aimed upwards? Or is it just easier to get a KO on the enemy that way? What about the ones that send the enemies more diagonally? They throw enemies more vertically than the others so why are they worse? Also Peach's, Greninja's and Lucario's have fixed damage but you use a super strong attack on the others so that makes them stronger... I find their's more reliable than the ones based on the attack received.

[@joanaguayoplanell4912]

Greninja's is especially hard to rank as it's designed to be a combo counter. It's known to be the one of the strongest spikes in the game if not THE strongest (it was almost a guaranteed OHKO in Smash 4 on characters hanging to the ledge, but nobody tested yet in Ultimate if it's still the case), and it can set up a fatal Nair or Up Air on stupidly early percents, with complete disregard on how weak was the attack that triggered the counter. Also, Corrin's still scales up incredibly with damage, so... I think a second round to see how early they can KO when reflecting, say, Mario's uncharged Up Smash from the center of Final Destination is warranted.

[@ruiribeiro8010]

@@joanaguayoplanell4912 True that. I still find it a better counter than those bcuz no matter how weak the attack it always hits HARD and you can chose the direction. Lucario hits them backwards making it easier to send enemies off stage when they are trying to keep u off or edgeguarding wich is usually also when they turn more predictable.

[@joanaguayoplanell4912]

@@ruiribeiro8010 In Smash I would have disagreed however, because it was so easy to dodge. But having half of the moveset be non-functional is a thing of the past, guys. No more retarded blind spots, no more moves that can be shielded on reaction, no more aerials, tilts and jabs unsafe on hit, and NO MORE STUPID SUICIDES WITH AERIAL SHADOW SNEAK.

[@ruiribeiro8010]

@@joanaguayoplanell4912 Yup lol I immeadiatly felt that their counters were more accurate now.

[@ziqi92]

Few things are as satisfying as landing a lariat with Incineroar after a full power revenge.

[@kinlaw7220]

Dang Mii brawler you made papa proud!

[@nancyvelardenv]

Yup

[@edbell3924]

*No hedgehogs were harmed in the making of this video*

[@SpineCones]

I like how shulk kinda sneezes everytime he counters

[@nate-rs8090]

IMO the best counter in the game belongs to Mr. Game and Watch. His goes all the way up to 9.

[@supersonicgamer7747]

3:38 minutes of my favourite character getting hurt

[@linebeckthejohoe4876]

Reece The Gamer This is a good result!

[@jorge4572]

He deserves that. This post was made by the pit mains (Girly angel with strong side-b)

[@jorge4572]

@Rellyali1987 :(

[@stefa8561]

Kirby

[@fluxx5783]

Reece The Gamer oof same

[@rileysanford3674]

Finally, Shulk is the best at something, counters! In 2 ways, actually. Thanks to buster, he has the highest damage counter since (most) counters do damage relative to the damage of the attack that hit them, and I guess Shulk with buster has the highest modifier, besides revenge boosted Incineroar, if that counts as a counter. Smash just gives him insane enough knockback to delete anything that hits him. Fully charged smash? *Begone!*

[@real_abender]

Recently I three-stocked my friend with the exact same move each time: Using Counter Throw on Kirby's Hammer Flip.

[@redead8513]

0:00 I hear the Corrin themes so I think he has the best Counter with Incineroar

[@viola4344]

Knockback at 0% doesn't really mean anything since combos don't really start with counters. Different moves have different knockback growth values, so some move that are really weak at low percents could be the strongest at higher percents. Also, top blast zones are almost always closer to the center of the stage than side blast zones, so vertical knockback is more effective for its amount. A better way to determine the overall strongest moves in terms of knockback is by at what damage % they KO at (either always with no DI and LSI, or with always perfect DI and LSI), as this would factor in both base knockback and knockback growth, and would give a more accurate metric for which moves KO the soonest.

[@DestinySeeks]

Funny thing is they used to do just that in smash 4, but not in ultimate. I suppose the training stage is too big/has the final destination borders already.

[@IBrokeMySpaceKey]

Everyone: “punches/slashes” Mii brawler: this bitch empty! YEET

[@DrySans8823]

3:00 Shulk: This is a good result King K. Rool, Me, and other King K. Rool mains: GO TO HELL 🤬🤬

[@wharknut]

Love your channel fam

[@AquaJet738]

Technically, if Shulk wasn’t using Monado Arts, the Mii Brawler has the strongest counter

[@mvbowserbrutus]

King K. Rool has two projectiles, a reflect, a strong counter, a cool and beneficial attribute unique to just him, a strong overall moveset, amazing air game, two meteor smashes, and a really good recovery. This is why King K. Rool is my 6th main.

[@kaeyaluckaealberich1612]

Shulk is really feeling it

[@Sonic_the_Hedge-hog]

I'm the one who's really feeling it.

[@nancyvelardenv]

Hes only feeling it because Monado art

[@Esteban-nk3nm]

​@@Sonic_the_Hedge-hog No, you're "Feeling Good!"

[@GUMMY_MKII]

*playing as a mii brawler* Captain falcon making a reversed falcon punch "Bruh you just killed yourself"

[@nancyvelardenv]

Dont forget the only thing on mii's hands are gloves

[@Levi_The_One_The_Only]

Is this based on how far they're launched? Also YES you used the good Ike skin 😂

[@Anansi-y5m]

No he juat said that at the beggining of the video cause hw thought it was funny

[@scourge8143]

Out of all of them, King K. Rool’s is the most satisfying

[@-theunknownuser9737]

next: deflect, dedede's goes forever so it's tier is: jesus

[@voltingmaster5458]

I’ve calculated who has the strongest up throw based on knockback at Kill percent as well as the strongest up smash based on knockback at Kill Percent.

[@drns_nyad]

Shulk is really very technical !

[@mr.gamer17]

Did anyone else notice that Daisy’s Toad counter made Sonic drop the Ore Club while Peach’s didn’t?

[@Capin_KO]

I took 25 minutes testing this, and if I knew this video existed, it would have saved, like, 25 minutes.

[@AcosticNeT]

Even though mii brawler is a strong counter, it’s considerably the worst counter in the whole game. And the reason why is because the hitbox for mii brawler’s counter to activate doesn’t cover his whole body which makes him exposed to feet, head and back. He has the shortest active counter frames of 18. And lastly even if you use this as a ledge guard option (which you shouldn’t) would put the opponent sent flying behind and up which puts the opponent close back onto stage.

[@shuggie83wuggie97]

I will stand firm on my opinion. Witch Time=Best Counter.

[@TechnoaxesYT]

This is a good result. See even shulk knows he won

[@MelvinStFleur]

I like how Shulk always has multiple spots on the list cause of Monaco Arts

[@kerstinwegner6211]

*Im realy feeling the thumbs up* 👍😅

[@Spisick]

I like how Shulk got first and then he said "this is a good result"

[@layerex3957]

I want you all to Counter an uncharged DORIYAH with Mii Brawler. Go on. You'll be amazed.

[@krazyfan1489]

What kinda stuff can or cannot be countered? Like, Marth's Final smash?

[@RealMiniLink]

I believe all final smashes function similar to a command grab or just don't have the property of "paryable"

[@Maxenorer]

hm... K Rool is the 5th... SEE... SOMETIMES IS GOOD TO BE FAT!

[@Matthias27182]

Can't argue with that

[@avien107]

No hedgehogs were harmed during the make of this video

[@randomwatcher3447]

Expected Mii Brawler to be at #2, it's just so fuckin satisfying.

[@anthonywhite6784]

2:38 Slickest counter: Mii Brawler

[@Capin_KO]

Grear damage combined with the fact it beats out Wonderwing, I think Mii Brawler's counter is the best overall.

[@underscore319]

Cruel Smash 1. Pick Shulk 2. Monando Smash 3. Golf swing the fuckers

[@Keegor1shere]

Lovin' the fates music!

[@AlphaSeagull]

Not surprised in the slightest. He also wins in damage of the counter during buster arc

[@ciaranpatrick6859]

Damn, Shulk ain’t playin

[@Zeke-gu8fo]

if you like now you can save the local sonics from going extinct from domestic abuse

[@Riptide-ik5db]

That's my boy now you're talkin shulk

[@daniely2125]

afk mii brawler or sword fighter should be a thing

[@Reilly-K]

Doesn't Marth's counter have a more power if the tipper hits? Or am I mistaken? Also, where can I find this remix of "Lost in Thoughts All Alone" that was used here?

[@anaagurto2235]

You should do what projectiles can Ness, Lucas and other characters absorb.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

I can list those right here. - Mario: Fireball - Link: Remote Bomb (explosion), side smash (beam) - Samus: Charge Shot, Bomb (explosion) - Yoshi: Yoshi Bomb (stars) - Kirby: Final Cutter (wave) - Fox: Blaster, back throw (Blaster), up throw (Blaster), down throw (Blaster) - Pikachu: Thunder Jolt, Thunder (bolt) - Luigi: Fireball - Ness: PK Flash, PK Fire, PK Thunder - Peach: Toad (spores) - Daisy: Toad (spores) - Bowser: Fire Breath - Ice Climbers: Ice Shot (block), Blizzard - Sheik: Burst Grenade (explosion, Vanish - Zelda: Din's Fire - Pichu: Thunder Jolt, Thunder (bolt) - Falco: Blaster, back throw (Blaster), up throw (Blaster), down throw (Blaster) - Young Link: Bomb - Mewtwo: Shadow Ball, front throw (Shadow Balls) - Mr. Game & Watch: front air attack (explosion) - Pit: Palutena Bow - Dark Pit: Silver Bow - Zero Suit Samus: Paralyzer, down smash - Snake: Hand Grenade (explosion), Remote Missile (explosion), C4 (explosion), side smash, up smash (shell) - Charizard: Flamethrower, Flare Blitz (explosion) - Diddy Kong: Rocketbarrel Boost (explosion) - Lucas: PK Freeze, PK Fire, PK Thunder - King Dedede: Super Dedede Jump (stars) - Lucario: Aura Sphere, Force Palm (burst) - Toon Link: Bomb - Wolf: Blaster - Villager: Lloid Rocket (explosion) - Mega Man: Crash Bomber (explosion), neutral attack, side tilt attack, neutral air attack, side smash - Wii Fit Trainer: Sun Salutation - Mii Gunner: Charge Blast, Laser Blaze, Grenade Launch (explosion), Flame Pillar, Stealth Burst, Lunar Launch, Bomb Drop (explosion), front air attack(?) - Palutena: Autoreticle, Explosive Flame - Robin: Thunder (all stages), Arcfire, Elwind - Duck Hunt: Trick Shot (explosion), Clay Shooting (reticle shots) - Ryu: Hadoken, Shakunetsu Hadoken - Ken: Hadoken - Cloud: Blade Beam - Corrin: Dragon Fang Shot - Inkling: Splattershot, Splat Bomb (explosion) - Ridley: Plasma Breath - Simon: Holy Water - Richter: Holy Water

[@flamingsage9747]

Now we have to have Joker with Arson

[@gatorhayd]

Funny how Shulk was first AND last place

[@dragonquinn]

He wasn't last

[@minhamaenaomecrioupraseregirl]

I love Peach's counter new animation... But I miss the old sound effect it did...

[@stamariagerardjimelsolano8146]

If Hakumen was in Smash Bros, He would show them all who's the lord of counters.

[@Netsaver]

So Mii fighter technically is the strongest...

[@αγρ-κ6λ]

Silent Soul Ken SSK No, Buster Shulk does way more damage, he does 67,2% adn Mii Brawler does 55,4%

[@Netsaver]

@@αγρ-κ6λ that's what I mean you need Shulks Monado just to do that much while mii brawler you don't. In terms of raw damage with no buffs Mii is stronger.

[@elijahpadilla5083]

@@Netsaver It's not a buff, really. It's part of Shulk's base kit, so discounting it is kinda hard to justify.

[@Xaion6]

Meliodas has the most powerful counter

[@Doctor_Bamias]

Greninja's counter be like: Greninja:disappears Sonic:I missed! Greninja reappears: SUPRISE MOTHER FUCKER

[@kellendamelon4007]

It’s a win for buster shulk in my book, 67.2 damn damage

[@litanavora6360]

This is a good result!

[@rumple7473]

I thought Brawler would be number 1, and he kiiiiinda was. Gotta say that is always so satisfying to land

[@CuriousUserX90]

You forgot about Bayonetta’s Witch Time and Incineroar’s Revenge which are also counterattacks.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

No, they showed what Revenge does at the end. But they did still forget Witch Time.

[@turtlenuggetz7895]

mii brawler had me surprised

[@thatguythathasaname7599]

Now do "Who has the strongest walk", that would be fun.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

I know it wouldn't rank (like Incineroar's Revenge), but you forgot to show Bayonetta's Witch Time at the end as well.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

Bayonetta's Witch Time literally does nothing when it comes to knockback or damage multipliers. It just slows down the opponent for a moment.

[@cjthegoldenhunter]

Wait, wouldn't it be better to use the home run bat? Or does it break through Counters?

[@scorpionsapprentice3248]

king k rool is tied with mii fighter for strongest counter (when excluding shulk's monado boost) however the former's counter is very unsafe.

[@hypoKPP]

If this was done by kill percent, that’d be great. Not for match knowledge, but there’s no way that Lucario with high aura can be *that* low, I’ve died insanely early to Lucario through normal attacks, like a short hop up air when I was at 60%

[@supermariobrothers2260]

Lucario is such a Chad taking up to spots

[@theophilecaceres5855]

Im really feeling it.

[@wilhemtehlynx]

Jesus ChrIKE That’s powerful!

[@jasoncoffey8596]

No Sonics was harmed in this video Except for the one in the movie