Super Soco TC MAX - Real World Range Test!

[@LouDeVere]

Just wanted to say thank you for the video you've made of the Super Soco TC Max. I've had mine for about a month and absolutely love it. Unfortunately I have to wait a few weeks to get back to riding it as I've just had my knee replaced and getting on the saddle would be a bit difficult for me at the moment! I also purchased the rear rack for the bike from the manufacturer which doesn't come with any instructions. I found that if I installed the rack, replacing the silver coloured grab rail, the two plastic side covers would no longer fit. The neat workaround was I obtained some 8mm stainless steel threaded rod and cut two lengths around 100mm each, screwed the rod where the cap head screws secure the grab rail to the frame, installed the grab rail, followed by the rear rack and tightened everything up with an M8 nut and washer each side. I had to extend the front rack mounts where they locate to the frame but in the end, it all looks great and is very secure.

[@esk8jaimes]

More electric motorcycle content, please! ❤

[@petergrove5132]

I have found that you don’t save any power by switching down to mode one. It seems to use exactly the same power on all modes at 60kph. I have a 50km round trip to work and I get home with exactly the same amount of battery left, regardless of whether I ride all the way on mode 2 or mode 3. The modes only limit the top speed.

[@StewSims]

Good to see real world range on these. Bit disappointing results. Makes a lot of sense for a short commute. But when you have to do a return journey that is say 15-20 miles each way that would be worrying given it takes so long to charge. If they could get the charging time down or range up this would be a fantastic economical way to get around.

[@johnsshed995]

That was an intreresting insight to an ''affordable'' leccy bike ,as you said as a second bike its quite praticle alltho I'll stick with the Grom for now ,as Ide prolly back end a lorry watching how much battery I had left .lol. well done Spicy ride safe ;-)

[@gingz9934]

Brilliant review thank you! Still debating buying it but now I've seen a real world test I'm close to the decision. 38miles wasn't amazing

[@HippoDrones]

Be interesting to see how this compares to the city riding, I'd have thought that the start/stop environment in Portsmouth would sap range, but the 20/30mph speed limits would massively help range. I wonder if it will be hugely different from this one? :-)

[@Stuboi0]

My opinion is that the removal battery (albeit chunky) is perhaps a winner for those who don't have a garage or direct access to charging the bike. Worried about the battery in winter? No problem. Take it out and keep it indoors.

[@JayDee-xj9lu]

How much would a spare battery be? Maybe fit it to a carrier on the back in case you run out of juice.

[@Spazza42]

Maeving has that exact approach, charge at your desk or in your apartment - also makes the bike impossible to steal

[@RemyMartinVSOP]

Great video and review. I am looking to get this bike was very informative. Good content. Subbed 🔥♥️

[@CiBi1968]

Ideal bike for an evening takeaway delivery .... Cost pennies to run for the night & maximum profit !

[@hermanstokbrood]

Very nice review. This is so informative. I sure gonna watch the long range test after this.

[@AridersLifeYT]

I genuinely enjoyed this video.

[@louisjones9231]

Looked forward to this, good test and the city one is a good shout

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[@lottumeb]

Shame it doesn't have a Volt meter. At least the you can see when you get close to 48V, wich is the cut-off V for 60V batteries.

[@pez_96]

Brilliant spicy! Keep up the good work

[@Dead_Assassin]

I rode my bike up shop this morning and struggled all the way because it hadn't warm up. You have to keep a electric bike inside in winter.

[@kevindarkstar]

That's a very good point if you keep ya bike outside in the depths of winter and sub zero temperature, no battery likes to be cold ❄

[@esk8jaimes]

Yup, needs a thick cover, loses 10% battery in the cold overnight. Hence why I'm shortening the bars to fit it into my flat. (Probably safer this way too)

[@a0flj0]

@@esk8jaimes You can easily pull out the battery and take it inside overnight. You don't have to take the whole bike inside.

[@esk8jaimes]

@@a0flj0 where I live is a theft hotspot, that's why it's going inside and not a shed.

[@yannickverlinden4009]

I can go 70 kilometers with 10 to 20 % left in good conditions . Great review 👍

[@motormesh-shop]

at full speed?

[@yannickverlinden4009]

@@motormesh-shop at the speed limit of those streets . Most of them are 50 kph.

[@mickchallis5689]

Have you thought of Doing a review of the Horwin CR6. It would be I interesting to see the comparison

[@6Twisted]

My brother will be doing his CBT this year. I've been looking at CBT electric bikes but everything I can find maxes out at around 50mph and has around 50 miles of range which isn't enough for a joy ride. It's a shame there's no learner electric bikes that can do 70mph with 100+ miles of range to at least compete with petrol.

[@spicy110]

well the zero fxs 12kw will get close but the cost is...."High" putting it mildly, early tech atm.

[@mrmoon1482]

Joy riding will be a thing of the past once caps on charging and essential trips come into play, to “save the planet”

[@benford1253]

Isn’t Maeving, the company that designed that RMS electric motorcycle, building a 75mph version called RMS1? They can be ridden with a CBT.

[@mikemars38]

Anyone know if there is a place to secure the helmet to the bike

[@tomofnorthcal]

Very interesting and the bike is so quiet.

[@liamh8676]

Have you had the 50cc equivalent can’t find a video

[@handbaked4937]

great video! love the comment regarding not needing a 1000cc motorbike to go to tesco, this is a very important point. Clean transport options. Also, in case it hasnt already been said in the comments. When the motor is engaged downhill it will be regenerative braking that causes the effect of engine breaking. This is literally free power going back into the battery.

[@spicy110]

Not in this case, not all electrics have regen. Only the more expensive ones do, like zero's. However, someone has modded one to do it but it was not easy.

[@stephenvella4169]

Just bought one this week, during trial run I was impressed, great for day to day commuting

[@nietmachine9301]

Still satisfied?

[@stephenvella4169]

@@nietmachine9301 yes using daily, up down hills

[@johnflavin1602]

@@stephenvella4169 what’s top speed, 60 mph? Will it do that and keep up with cars?

[@stephenvella4169]

@@johnflavin1602 it's easily gets to 100km /60mph on third switch. I live on an island roads are no longer than 2km, the bike is designed to be a daily city bike , i can't verify that maximum speed for long duration is healthy for the motor/battery I can just say that this bike for me is perfect for daily use from town to town

[@stephenvella4169]

And small note I weigh 110kgs and it has no issues on acceleration

[@rozemarshall9334]

Conflicted between getting this or the silence SO1 Connected...

[@easternmenace]

See where I live it's very hilly which is why I don't cycle anywhere despite working within cycling distance from home. But If I don't have an access to a car next year anymore I might consider something like this, saves me using the bike to ride 15min to work and same time back

[@Syncronizeification]

8:50 that VW looked close! over the line before you even passed it

[@ericforpm]

Hey Spicy, is it worth buying in the Nepal where there's not a charging spot or ev showroom for maintainence in the country side of Nepal?

[@tictoc5103]

Should of done review in the city wer its mainly built for wot was the top speed in 3 mode

[@clangerbasher]

If they just built it a bit bigger. And would a fairing make a difference?

[@esk8jaimes]

Possibly, knowing Super Soco, they've got more models on the way.

[@waynewilliams260]

I can't wait to get mine soon

[@chrishart8548]

Said about saving tyres and the battery on a big bike. I would say using the bike would probably help the battery and it's just wear on one set of tyres Vs another set. Does make me want to take my Aprilia sx50 out.i drilled the washer out the exhaust and it goes about 57mph

[@CZ350tuner]

Electric push bikes are restricted to an electric motor 250 Watts peak load consumption (NOT the power output, which will be slightly less due to hysteresis losses!!) and a top speed of no greater than 15 MPH under electric power (they can go faster on human power though).

[@JP-yc1wp]

Unless you put a speedbox on the electric pushbike in question. I have one fitted to mine, basically it removes the restrictor so the motor keeps assisting you, I regularly get 28+ mph out of mine. 😁

[@thekirtfox]

I just got a new job working from home, but might need to drive out to sites now and then. Furthest 15 miles away. So the range is more than fine. And I can always take the battery out and charge on site. Been driving a 2014 Nissan Leaf. Full electric, been amazing for the past 7 years I've had it. So I'm user to driving electric. Cause that's been amazing and my other half will be using the car to get to work, been thinking of getting an electric bike for those times I have to head out. Your vids been a big help, and I'm thinking I'll probably go for it. Though I'm not 100% sold on the appearance more than anything. I wish it was more a cruiser style, like my old bike. Know any good cruiser style ones (CBT legal) you can get in the UK before I make up my mind on getting this?

[@spicy110]

Electric, no sadly not.

[@thekirtfox]

@@spicy110 Darn, that bites. Still for what it is, it doesn't look terrible. Just more a preference than anything. Thanks for the reply!

[@stevefrith9924]

looking forward to your reliable review of super soco cpx, hope they give you 2 batteries. Keep up the good work

[@Seitenwerk]

@@weko6273 too bad. The smaller tc can fit a second battery and you can get bigger ones which will allow up to 230km range

[@clangerbasher]

It is a climb up to Fort Nelson. :)

[@OHNADS]

Great review !!! but how did you break your right rear view mirror though?

[@spicy110]

From memory, it was broken in the van when the bike was delivered. Also remember this is a review bike so it gets thrown around a bit.

[@robm5216]

What is that helmet you have please ?

[@chriswright6346]

I'm looking at getting one of these for a 40 mile commute, will that be too far?

[@jasew9718]

Hi I do this edit often, as long as I'm able to charge at my destination and avoid going at high speeds when it's not necessary, it's easily done

[@tbonesenior6736]

Fantastic

[@glennt1962]

103.5kg the brochure mentioned. Good review. Would be nice to be able to pull the battery out.

[@spicy110]

You can, I have a video doing it 👍

[@glennt1962]

@@spicy110 Yes I saw it Thank You !

[@reecemartin453]

So this video has been up for a year now. What's a years worth for the bike??

[@spicy110]

hey not sure what you are asking there. However this is a review bike so know I don't still have it.

[@ephphatha230]

Can you drive it around the beach by the pub

[@jasewale]

Great video Spicy, I wonder how much it’d cost to replace the battery when it dies?

[@spicy110]

£1500 + vat I think

[@jluclacour47]

@@spicy110 To me price is much higher I live in France, and in France price is around 3000€ !!

[@richhall4899]

Can you charge it at the charging stations at petrol stations etc ? Do you just need a cbt to ride these in really interest in buying one

[@spicy110]

Yes to needing cbt and no as these have no fast charging you need to charge with a 3 pin plug and charger.

[@VivviStar02Playx]

What max speed? Can you by pass?

[@drdoolittle5724]

Do you reckon you could strap-on a Honda suitcase gene, couple up the leads and therefore have no anxiety?

[@chrishart8548]

I would just swap the motor out for a 49cc engine with 6.5hp (about what this is anyway)

[@drdoolittle5724]

@@chrishart8548 Na, hybrid is the way to go, according to Toyota!

[@chrishart8548]

@@drdoolittle5724 Toyota even admits other 5 years of ownership a hybrid will cost more than a pure ice version

[@eddieneedsboost]

Great video mate. What would you say was your average speed for this ride?

[@spicy110]

Most of these roads are 30 and 40mph, however, averages end up a lot lower than you may think, So I can not really answer that accurately......maybe 30?

[@raphaelamor]

Great video, but I reckon you only had one battery in it? Your distance was about 60 km, which is what I see advertised per battery, and you can have two batteries in it, which would take up to around 120 km.... pretty good.

[@spicy110]

I am afraid you are mistaken on that one, the TC Max can only take 1 battery. see here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYrTdXmmidaMotU You would be talking about the Super Soco Cpx scooter,

[@simonj48]

Couldn't hear the dude on the Triumph due to the excessive road noise from your tyres, maybe was riding an electric as well... or 'loud pipes' don't work as intended. If you can't hear him, cars have no chance with all the soundproofing they enjoy these days.

[@mortonfrankfire5400]

Hey. I’m thinking about one of these. I’be never ridden motor bikes before but have spent a lot of time on 2 wheels. I’m planning on using this to commute on. I’m going to be 110kg rider weight. Do you think this will be powerful enough for someone of my size?

[@spicy110]

I am 6'4 and 100kgs so not too different. You should see the same performance as me In video

[@ToyotaSubieDude]

I love this bike, but my area has lots of hills, so i guess that changes my mind haha

[@theoutdoorslifetv3200]

Single battery configuration?

[@spicy110]

Yes

[@brackcycle9056]

So does it save power in position 1 ? Or is it the same.. if you just stay in 3 & go at 35 mph ?

[@petergrove5132]

It doesn’t save power. You may as well stay in 3.

[@mrosa7515]

How much time did u spend on the road with this bike in this specific video u uploaded my friend?!😀

[@two_wheels_are_king9136]

Great video Spicy. My commute to work is 27 km (17 miles) on mainly 60 km/h (37 miles/hour) & 80 km/hr (50 miles per hour). I'd like an electric motorcycle that can travel 34 miles without needing charging at work. It sounds as if it would be touch and go. I'm 80 kg and 170 cm (5ft7) Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

You'd need an expensive Zero bike for that. These super soco bikes are city or short commuter bikes.

[@corachizehrfeldt2977]

Hi. Interesting ebike. Will it reach 100km while travelling on highway with speed of 100km/h for a single charge on eco mode??

[@derhuhu4502]

Obviously not

[@MrAeos]

Hi spicy,, What type of front sprocket does it have and do you see good reason to go larger to increase top end and range without totally loosing the EV acceleration?

[@spicy110]

It's belt driven, no chain.

[@MrAeos]

@@spicy110 I did know that, the question still stands

[@spicy110]

Ok then the name is pulley and I am not sure you can get different size ones. No real point anyways as the limiting factor is software not final drive.

[@mehdihassanpour1448]

Does it need insurance and registration or not?

[@spicy110]

Yes and a licence

[@mehdihassanpour1448]

And how much is normally for 20 years old?

[@jakubstych]

Thanks for a great vid. I’m 186cm (6.1ft), 70kgs and I wonder if the bike isn’t too small for me. What do you reckon?

[@spicy110]

I'm 6'4 and 95kgs...it looks like a tiny bike but it works

[@esk8jaimes]

I'm 6ft and want one regardless of my height.

[@roninesce8362]

Jakub, this guy was testing it and he is 6.2 ft www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/super-soco/super-soco-tc-max-electric-bike-review

[@jakubstych]

@@roninesce8362 thanks!

[@petergrove5132]

I am 6’3 and 82kg and have no problem with the size.

[@RJ-de5eu]

was this range based on single battery or two?

[@spicy110]

One, as the TC max only takes one. The cpx can take two.

[@flitsies]

I think one thing that will go against these types of bikes now amongst other things is the fact that they have not been given exemption through all those back streets that have been closed off, so as you have to go the long way round you will need something that won't need to be recharged all the time, so these road closures have highlighted yet another reason to not buy electric. They should have exempted electric vehicles as the reason was to do with pollution they claimed.

[@gabekevill263]

Is the bike nippy?

[@bogy912]

have you tried the Super Soco TSX too? :)

[@jarpen3]

Hi regenative breaking?

[@spicy110]

No not on this, you only get that on much more expensive electric motorcycles.

[@jarpen3]

@@spicy110 Thank you

[@davidstratton9o5]

Hey Spicy. New here I live 2.5 mile from work? Its up Hill all the way. Would you recommend this bike. (I know get a push bike, but thats exercise lol) Cheers

[@spicy110]

Those are very easy miles I bet you would charge it almost weekly. IF they are very steep hills it will struggle a little mind.

[@jckcc]

Sad that this is really just for city riding. I wouldn't even find it weird if it lasted around the same time as a couple of action cam batteries in highway.

[@HakanKoseoglu]

Already someone broke the mirror?

[@spicy110]

In the van on the way here yer

[@Meifesto]

Is it weird that i prefer the dashboard of the scooter version, than of this version? xD

[@mattcliff296]

Plot twist, The bike is heavy but spicy's been taking steroids

[@HowlingWolfLeather]

I don’t get why everyone is so impressed. It’s A LOT of money for a bike that does that speed and especially that distance. It can’t work out cheaper once you have bought that second battery for £1500 and then replaced them both for £3000 when they die. I could live with the prices if the bike would make 70mph and have two batteries worth of distance in one battery. As much as I would like one, it’s just not there yet.

[@jasew9718]

The government pay a 50% scheme on these. It costed me 4000 originally but I got it for 2000, then on finance it would only be around 80 a month. Baring in mind you pay no road tax or fuel costs

[@daisymiabellaluna]

I’m curious. Is it automatic

[@spicy110]

Yes as it has no gearbox just twist and go it's classed as an auto like all electric bikes (unless there is one with a gearbox but I have never seen it)

[@glasgowmedia7421]

Is it a small bike? I have small legs so prefer a lower bike. Is the saddle comfortable?

[@spicy110]

Why not watch my review?

[@bikersbeyonduk5993]

Should try a Harley Davidson electric motorbike like the one from the series long way up with Ewan McGregor good series 😉 ride safe good review

[@esk8jaimes]

Isn't that like £24,000 more than this one?

[@stephenbernas1820]

hi spicy! is the 38 mile you recorded is only for one battery?

[@spicy110]

Yes this is a single battery bike.

[@dogshome7110]

Neeeeoooooaaaawwwww!!! :-) Ducks... Obviously having fun.

[@a0flj0]

You do use somewhat less energy at lower speeds, due to air resistance being proportional to the square of your speed. You _can_ run your bike until the battery his 100% dry, but you shouldn't. Keeping it between 20% and 90% and avoiding fast charging lengthens the battery's life. That bike seems excellent for commuting on short distances.

[@Meifesto]

So its range is roughly 6 / 7 miles longer than the scooter. For allot more topspeed, that ain't that bad really ;)

[@TurfGam3er5]

Seems slow compared to others, I was thinking of getting this but I don't think I will knowing it only does 60 where as my petrol 125 does 80 !

[@bamber119]

The moment they put it up to 70mph and 100 mile range then I will likely get one.

[@chrishart8548]

Have you gone up a really steep hill on it yet ?

[@spicy110]

The hill I go out in this video is very long and has a high altitude difference but it isn't that steep. But I do have a root in mind for the End review that will take me up and much Stepper Hill

[@chrishart8548]

@@spicy110 I think 7hp will only just pull 30mph up a really steep hill. Even a 12hp 125cc will probably struggle to do 50mph. I'm talking a really steep hill mind. TOG HILL look it up. In South Gloucestershire.

[@davesmith2150]

I wanted a electric motorcycle to go to the city that's 90km I don't think this will work

[@GingeRbiker82]

Setting 1 suzuki marauder.....

[@sam71802]

Cik Epal bring me here..

[@trystanfranziskus]

are you retracting your batman statement now that the movie was amazing?

[@spicy110]

Honestly, I can not remember what you are talking about haha time code?

[@trystanfranziskus]

@@spicy110 can't find it now but at one point you're saying something along the lines of that Robert Pattinson won't be a good batman lol

[@mrmoon1482]

Once electric takes off the restrictions on travelling to “save the planet” will go into hyperdrive, expect charging time limits and caps on essential trips,

[@IGF.E]

Right side Mirror Cracked 😏

[@spicy110]

Yes it was damaged in the van on the way too me, your point?

[@christopherhendrickson221]

If only these were available in the United States.

[@AndrewWilsonOz]

If you hit that bird, you might have had a pheasant experience.

[@nbgen]

Liked it apart from the duck interval which had nothing to do with the bike at all.

[@CZ350tuner]

5 Hours to recharge??!! It's probably quicker to refine a barrel of crude oil (to extract the 22% - 28% petroleum within it), process it and create a tankful of petrol for a conventional bike.

[@jasew9718]

Pretty easy to leave charging overnight

[@Ravan_Caw]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@davesmitte]

Once batteries catch up to what we need, we will all be on electric bikes.

[@HeLLoEthnicTR]

Battery capacity really low

[@spicy110]

Compared to?

[@wolfe1970]

38 miles when it claims 60 miles isnt that good tbh, i looked at the homologation to see what the scenarios was, a constant 28 mph on a level plain only in mode 1... When they sell these bikes they should really give real world riding performance, because who rides these in factory conditions ?, I ended up sending mine back due to false advertising, even your bike showing 62mph down hill, i guarantee if you had a smart phone with a bike app it would have shown you doing closer to 50mph, on mine my speedo was over 20% out, and the odometer adds miles, so those 38 miles would be closer to 35 miles, I like the idea of these electric bikes, but they really need to give you realistic specs and not lie through their front teeth, i mean 170nms torque is laughable, the motor actually produces 12.9nm torque, they added over 1200% to that figure

[@001mladen]

I would never change my Vespa GTS for a battery powered bike like this.... sorry. :)

[@tictoc5103]

I turned of wen u got to the ducks

[@spicy110]

No where does it say it is a review, It's part of the testing for the review! This is the review kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnK4p4OOe8uEi7M

[@B166RR]

Soooo boring just a guy talking

[@maycrotch8576]

ABAZA!!!!!!