Super Strong Conductive Graphene Bio Plastic

[@thethoughtemporium]

Very cool. I'm sure the 20 ton press helps a lot but it is quite cool how much stronger a bit of graphene makes plastic. It's crazy that you only need half a percent. i went way high and started with a few grams of graphite mixed in with dissolved abs in acetone then sonicated it for a few hours. Made the abs stronger but the residual graphite messed it up. Guess it's important to make the graphene first then add it in, or start with significantly less graphite. And the idea to powder, mix, then heat must work far better than dissolved plastic. No solvent, stuff'll be much harder. Very clever!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+The Thought Emporium cheers mate - but yes make your graphene first on this one - the real problem is intimate mixing

[@thethoughtemporium]

Noted will do! thanks

[@pooptv3210]

🤯💡🤯

[@dedlunch]

This video literally set a fire under my butt to get me moving and experimenting with plastics and Graphene. I didn't do much work, getting the Graphene in the plastic is a little tricky. I made the plastic semi molten, and worked in dry Graphene, but I kept folding it over itself(like how they make Damascus steel, about 1-2mm thickness supported my own weight and I chipped it after whacking it with a hammer a dozen times! Amazing work Rob! Everyone....get out there and experiment!!!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

dedlunch fantastic - do a video mate - i'd love to see

[@INFOGUIDEBENGALI]

@@ThinkingandTinkering What is the chemical name of that plastic material sir?

[@billkaroly]

Graphene infused carbon fiber? 3D Printer resin? When I heard what it does to cement my curiosity was piqued.

[@LuisAguilar-xd2hw]

Does the graphene also amplify the thermal conductivity? Itd be awesome to make a plastic light wieght heat sink :)))

[@Berserkerbaboen]

All fun aside... you just cut the cost of building spacedocks by a factor 6x6=36! 6x lighter than steel and 6x stronger!! Naughtynaughty! Now Earth will level much faster than intended... ;). You OP!

[@max49200]

Excuse me Robert, you had a video about a ak47 bulletproof test on graphene, i can't find it now, where is it?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

i'll look into it mate

[@MoxiesonTV]

Update 6 years later?

[@mkhamlach]

I forget to say you Congratulations for you 20000 suscribers. Your channel is really a model to follow. Thanks again for all your work and your support.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@dedlunch]

i honestly love learning! thank you, i really mean that....for all your help

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

dedlunch cheers mate

[@Berserkerbaboen]

Would hollow filled carbon-plastic plates and bricks filled with pressed waste or poluted ground get 1, 2 or 3 green certificates? How much for indestructible everlasting waste-brick cost the dozen? In Holland greenless building now is forbid.

[@muhamaddimasaditya5032]

How much ratio between the plastic and graphene did you use?

[@jeremygilbert3099]

I wish I could work with you and your team on Graphene and its wonderful properties!

[@jeremygilbert3099]

Please reveal the "kitchen chemistry"

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+Jeremy Gilbert if you are anywhere near Canterbury feel free to call in

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+Jeremy Gilbert i don't understand mate

[@jeremygilbert3099]

Kitchen chemistry you mentioned early in this film, the ingredients for the plastic lol and I would have to do that but at the moment, I am in the USA

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+Jeremy Gilbert that's a shame mate - anyway - i reveal what i can if i haven't given ingredients it usually means i can't

[@albertwidjaja5938]

I like this video, you looked genuinely happy when you discover this material. I can see it

[@dedlunch]

I will upload this weekend:)

[@PeterWolfe2012]

Could you separate a number of these discs and suitable separators to make a poorly-performing, (by your standards), capacitor that makes for its capacity with is high strength-to-weight and strength-to-volume ratios that allow a stack/row capacitor to be wrapped or surrounded by a tough insulating layer and them encapsulated by a structural layer of the same reinforced plastic to create super strong plastic tubes that have a super strong capacitor inside to form, effectively, a solid bar that can serve as incredibly strong, comparatively lightweight, utterly rigid structure of an electric vehicle which just happens to provide energy storage to be tapped when there is no more space for the FWG super capacitors?

[@TheGEODEAHOLIC]

always fun to see you having a good time. if you sheared your new plastic by squeezing it through some tiny holes like a spiders spinerets do you think the graphene would get oriented in the plastic & make the resulting thread stronger & more conductive?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

Maybe - I was thinking about it

[@curious4567]

Can the white powder by any chance be casien (maybe mixed with some additives)? I know casien is also very hard if you turn it into a "plastic" but I am not sure if it turns into a plastic at 150c. Does anybody think it is possible to use casien?

[@AmericanVikingGames]

I've been wondering the same thing my self. But as Robert would tell us, "experiment and find our for yourself!". I've been doing mental experiments too long. Robert has motivated me to venture out of the mind and into the lab. If I find out, I'll post on the comment but you should experiment too!

[@raysaltozzi8449]

Awesome material you created there - thank you so much for sharing. Thermally - what happens if you put a soldering iron with say 300deg.C on the disc? Will it spread the heat better or faster than with an equally sized disc of copper?

[@jaredmallard9986]

I know you said you can't tell us what the plastic is but could you possibly point me in the direction of figuring out how to make it into a powder for storage. I've made a few different bioplastics but they all have to be molded right after creating them while they are still in liquid form.

[@curious4567]

The only bioplastic I can think of which is a powder is bioplastics made from casien I know it turn rock hard if you mix it with water and let it dry. Maybe it can also get hard if you apply a lot of pressure and heat like he did?

[@AmericanVikingGames]

@curious 456, in the video he explains that the plastic/graphene mixture is heat THEN pressed in the mold. I interpret this as a literal sequence and not just a choice of words.

[@jaredmallard9986]

@@curious4567 Yea that's possibly it, I thought maybe PLA since it is also a bioplastic.

[@handleismyhandle]

Just curious if you have treated the graphene to form specific chemical bonds, or if it is behaving more like a dispersed filler? I am thinking I might try a polymer with aromatic rings. perhaps with an iron catalyst, and applying some low-level microwaves. . . The graphene regions should act as susceptors and create a high local energy. . Just an idea anyway.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+Blitherer Masterman It's a good idea mate - or at least i like it and think it is well worth exploring

[@dedlunch]

I will definitely post this week/weekend:) thank you Rob!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

dedlunch v cool mate

[@brettgoodwin8345]

3mm thick, 2 percent graphene/1.5 percent silicon nitride, breaks at almost 400kg :D

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cool

[@normalchannel8493]

That means that is stronger as steel

[@veluvelu2457]

Please can you tell me the, How to make a Quality Graphine wire's and cables at home.And What are the Basic Material and Process we want to use. Please make a video quality 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@joseignaciodiazpilpe3450]

Robert, which is the mold material you´re using?

[@02jackal]

What about thermal properties???

[@dedlunch]

I can't wait to do more experimenting, so much can be done to improve it!:):):) Thank you Rob

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

dedlunch good on you mate - it's good to see you 'doing it'

[@mkhamlach]

Hi Rob, really good stuff. It seems to be a good product. I was thinking about doing the same thing with sodium sillicate.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

give it a go mate - i'd love to see how you get on - so don't forget to post a vid

[@crackajuwia25]

I was wondering, how do you mix in the suspended graphene? Let the solvent evaporate and mix in dry graphene or mix it wet and let it evaporate with the plastic? Thank you so much for the cool videos!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

both work depending on the circumstances

[@crackajuwia25]

when the solvent dries, what is left? Graphene powder?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

basically - yes

[@gracechong6620]

Last question how do you heat the plastic? What equipkent do you use and process.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

depends on the plastic - but we use a range of methods from direct heat to double boilers and steam

[@conductiveinkalternative918]

Interesting. Does graphene it increase the strength of latex?

[@roidroid]

If it has good tensile strength, with it's conductive properties it could be an interesting material to make flywheels from.

[@roidroid]

It'd probably 3d print quite well if printed in "vase mode" so that the filament extrusion is continuous with no stop-start joins. Should retain much of it's tensile strength this way.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

hmm - it's a bit light maybe

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

roidroid that's a good idea

[@roidroid]

They currently use carbon fibre. IIRC they tend to prioritize tensile strength over weight, aiming to spin them faster rather than make them heavier.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

roidroid i didn't know that - fair enough seems like a doable thing then

[@grumpysdiy]

what mesh graphite are you buying to make your graphene out of? love your channel btw when i stumbled onto graphene, yours was pretty much the only place i could find any info on it so big props sir "tips hat"

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

no worries mate - i use 5 micron and 45 micron depending on what properties I want

[@graverobber310]

New watcher here. I think this is absolutely brilliant.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+graverobber310 thank you mate and thank you for taking the time to say so

[@JonathanLyons7]

"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter." -Proberbs 25:2 Go out and take dominion over the earth!

[@Jimunu]

and be a good shepherd of it.

[@brettgoodwin8345]

Robert, do you know of a good home method of cross-linking nylon?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

no - sorry

[@3verve]

RMS - you are an inspiration. Thank you for all your videos. It has re-ignited my school days love for chemistry! One question please: I will be mixing graphene in a plastic that has a melting point of 180C. Would mixing at this temp be of any concern re damaging graphene? Thanks.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

njo mate - it's fine up to 400C

[@3verve]

Thank you!

[@BioDynamicIndustries]

I'm going to try my hand at this and mold a replacement flywheel for my car, bolt it in and see what happens!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

Sean Lutz you should definitely try it mate - there is a whole world to be discovered in this one

[@thegaryjay_yt]

I cant wait to find out what amount of stress that disc can hold up to

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I took it down to a test center - 300kg

[@suffolkcountysheriff]

Robert Murray-Smith to break the whole piece or the 1mm thick part? Did you test the control piece, the one without the Graphene? I can picture building boats out of it. Would love to see if it improve ABS Plastic for 3D printing, hope it does. Anyhow great work being done by you for the society as a whole, keep it up.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

suffolkcountysheriff The whole piece - i didn't bother with the control piece as i just snapped it in two by hand - you could see it was very much weaker and these tests cost 150 pounds each. So, I got the results of my new plastic and compared it to steel which is 500kg for a piece the same thickness

[@thegaryjay_yt]

I need to get a hold of some powder and test it with fiberglass resin

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

Gary J Smith you want some of my powder? - I am afraid you can't have any for a while - i am still testing it

[@MisterRorschach90]

Is it really just as simple as mixing graphene oxide in a polymer? I mean could you add graphene to plastidip? I’ve actually been considering trying that out.

[@michaellovelace3844]

In a later video I asked if the graphene was functionalized and he told me it was and that was the main secret. I found a method for functionalizing graphene oxide with polymer combs, but to say it is expensive is an understatement. It would probably cost over $100,000 to functionalize a pound of graphene oxide. Since he has said that he can make this stuff dirt cheap I'm pretty sure he isn't using that method.

[@innovationhq8230]

This is very neat lots of uses and ideas are coming to mind. also what is the bio-plastic made of?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

potatoes - not kidding

[@innovationhq8230]

So it's made of potatoes i have tried to find uses for potatoes but this is just great! do you have instructions or a recipe That could have?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

innovation HQ no mate i don't - as i say in the video this was done for somebody else - it shows possibilities - the rest you will have to work out for yourself on this one i am afraid

[@innovationhq8230]

Okay thanks is the bio plastic water proof?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

innovation HQ yes it is

[@lachlanraidal5100]

Have you tried substituting the graphene for nanotubes? They may offer some different properties.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+Lachlan Raidal it definitely has different properties mate - i have done it

[@lachlanraidal5100]

+Robert Murray-Smith Interesting, what were some of the most notable differences?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+Lachlan Raidal it was less crystalline in structure

[@dedlunch]

+Robert Murray-Smith amorphous is good:)

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

it can be - depends what you are looking for lol

[@eomary1185]

How did you disperse graphene in the bioplastic or in any plastic ?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

by mixing well - there are a host of different mixing methods you can use but basically that's is - so blenders, homogenisers, grinders all work well

[@chandlerbing700]

I want to start a factory of graphenr tyre manufacturing company... can someone consult / guide ?

[@aashishtuli6388]

What composition you used?

[@jairleon5675]

Excuse me Robert, what is the mold material?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

it's a steel mold

[@lot451]

0.5% graphene added , Is it 0.5 % in weight or 0.5 % in volume ? :)

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

by weight mate

[@stacy532]

yep i can see solid capacitors and solid electrolyte batteries.. looks like fun stuff. maybe u can make a plastic but putting some stainless steel powder or another metal ,aluminum powder and have two different metals but in the form of plastic..

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

Steve was thinking about that mate

[@bridgendesar]

Could you be heading for an alternative to carbon fibre?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

maybe lol

[@Venturestarx]

Robert Murray-Smith I'm about to send some off to a manufacturer for testing of carbon fiber and graphene enhanced ABS filament for 3D printing. We shall see....

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

Venturestarx good luck with it mate

[@Samrules888]

I tried that with sugru, but I lost my sample.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

how did it work out?

[@Samrules888]

Robert Murray-Smith used micronized graphite. lost my original sample. made another. nothing special. metalic sheen so if you want a metallic sugru just use some graphite but it seemed to be less sticky. I also heard powdered orange drink can strengthen some types of adhesive, but I don't want to waste any more sugru.

[@Samrules888]

Robert Murray-Smith yes. almost 4 US dollars a packet. but I'd already fixed my cords and jazzed up my gadgets with a few packs left over.

[@Prayimario]

Wait, this is really cool. If it's not a trade secret, what plastic is this? Thanks in advance.

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

it is a trade secret mate - i say that in the video - sorry

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

***** yep - just about anyone

[@NeoShameMan]

Good job as usual :) now if it has the low solar property of that other experiment here goes solar road :)

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

now that's an idea lol

[@das250250]

hahah when you laugh you crack me up bad ...the workshop must be a fun place .. :-)

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+graham kaveman it is fun mate and since we put the office in pretty comfortable too

[@das250250]

+Robert Murray-Smith yes workshop there looks like a tidy version of what I have here hahah

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+graham kaveman lol - things can get in a mess pretty quickly !

[@das250250]

+Robert Murray-Smith seriously mate if I have any more entropy I'm likely to start a new universe in my place

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+graham kaveman lol

[@jefferylubinski528]

Theres some magic here

[@Berserkerbaboen]

Torpedoes might not dent it. How about the heat from a torpedo blast? All onboard now FRIED CHICKEN!! Flawed!!! :)

[@MarioAbbruscato]

the discs of a turbine tesla with electrodynamic properties unknown

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

Mario Abbruscato absolutely - i am building one lol

[@sankalpgaba423]

hello, I saw this for the first time,I'm trying to make thermal conductive plastic filled with 40% extended graphene in Twin screw extruder,I want that plastic would be comercially viable also. pls send useful inputs

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

+Sankalp Gaba you are asking me to help you develop a commercial product - really ???? - lol - this is one you will have to develop alone my firend

[@dedlunch]

I figured, if people would like to perform ramen tests on their graphene in house.....this would be perfect and not even remotely as expensive as a lab built spectroscope....:-)

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

absolutely

[@andrewbeaton3302]

AMAZING!

[@barriehemming1189]

really good video..

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

cheers mate

[@gracechong6620]

Where did you buy your graphene from?

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I make it

[@Candyman97]

Dude you'er so awesome!!!!!

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

lol - cheers mate

[@wiffleduster]

See if you can string some out like wire and wrap it in a coil to see if it will collect and give back more electricity than a copper coil pack check out this machine and see if you can give me some ideas not trying to get subs just thought you would be interested check out this youtube channel (Bunker Rogge) look at the generator mainly the wheel

[@ThinkingandTinkering]

I am not likely to try that mate - well not for some time - there is quite a lot of work to do on this yet and I am likely to do that - just seeing how strong i can get it is going to take weeks