How Turning Red Fits Into The Pixar Theory

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

What is your favorite Pixar Movie?!!

[@vineethkanpa6216]

All my friends hate on Ratatouille but it really is so good T_T

[@jamessingleton728]

Cars 2

[@MegaWirbs]

Cars 2

[@lizzieallen9661]

This one….and Toy Story..and Luca

[@ethangeorge1971]

Coco

[@AjReiss-gl1sq]

Not to forget, when Merida turns her mother back into a human, the lullaby her mom sang (A mhaighdean bhan uasal) is playing in the background. I think that if Merida was thinking about it, then it's similar to speaking from her hearts fire, even without saying it.

[@darkhorsedouglas4789]

Yeah I was thinking of the lullaby too! Mend a bond torn by pride. The song was a connection between mother and daughter. Part of the bond that is being mended in that moment

[@brittondavis1736]

I also took note of the tamagotchi which held Ming’s panda spirit at the end of the movie. It was the first representation of a machine having a spirit, or soul. This could possibly explain the relation between the tamagotchi and the panda vs the cars and their owners. Another HUGE clue.

[@parkerryann]

THISSSS

[@robin_ch]

wall-e too 👀

[@maestrogeicho]

yoooo

[@badwolficreatemyself7669]

Wreck It Ralph too 😊

[@survivordave]

@@badwolficreatemyself7669 Wreck-It Ralph is not made by Pixar so it doesn't fall under the Pixar Theory.

[@sush13z77]

The dad in the beginning of the movie when he was cooking looked like he was in the “zone” from soul. When he realizes he’s been in the “zone” he snaps out of it and goes back to cooking normally.

[@bekleedee]

I love that sequence. It's so good.

[@the_gb_]

it is also probably one of the best cooking scenes in any piece of media ever made

[@hinamatsuro1908]

@@the_gb_ Do you watch anime?

[@theactualantonio]

@@hinamatsuro1908 they said what they said, anyways. next

[@the_gb_]

@@theactualantonio amen

[@maxsalmon4980]

So the funny thing about this is that Abby acts a lot like Boo too, in some ways. She's sort of cutely physically aggressive, prone to roaring and play-biting. Kind of like that's how mom played with her when she was younger. That said, I don't necessarily agree that the Red Panda magic comes from Boo. My interpretation would be more along the lines that it's magic that came from the spirit (since we actually see that spirit interacting with Mei in the movie), but that Boo learned about, and used mortal magic to try to emulate. Which is why the 'bear spell' works so differently. It's not the same magic, not from the same source.

[@freddyguzman9072]

Wow! Well said!

[@paigelarson9279]

This!

[@albertbertaton8014]

That fact that there can be multiple types is an amazing idea

[@sianevans6455]

This makes so much sense and I love it🤩🤩🤩

[@jasonciciliot2500]

As well, if Boo is a middle-aged mom in Turning Red (and an old woman in Brave) it would make more sense that perhaps after learning about the "Red Panda Incident" this inspired her to look deeper into magic. Maybe she visited Mei's temple to learn more about the ancient Red Panda magic in an attempt to figure out how to get back to Sully. But agreed, because the Red Panda magic is ancestral she had to look for alternate magics she could harness perhaps from other cultures, eventually leading her to Will o' the Wisps magic.

[@ellasummers9671]

I think you should be focusing more on the shaman in turning red. He clearly understands magic as he forgoes the ritual banishing the panda spirits into pendants. You'll also hear he has 50 years experience in magic! HELLO! Turning red is in 2002. 50 years ago is when the monsters were visiting the human world. Abby's mother, being Boo probably asked the shaman for magic tips from 50 years ago and figured more out on her own.

[@InevitableUniverse]

👆🏼underrated comment!! Such a good point!

[@riduanaqil1452]

Thats a great theory

[@jesses1]

Boo is Hispanic. It’s in the movie on her file

[@ellasummers9671]

@@jesses1 maybe, but who says abby's father wasn't the korean blood of the family. Still making the theory plausible.

[@v.ickyluna]

@@Poppleworks yes! but mei is the one of chinese descent, abby (her friend) is korean :)

[@heroicgangster9981]

Abby is a good scarer, she has so much chaotic energy packed into a human being

[@DaddyTroll]

What if.. Abby. Is. Boo. ???? I think their monster-door timeline is off. Watch where Randall gets banished.

[@federicoapl]

@@DaddyTroll randal was banished in another moment, it's not necessary from the same set of doors.

[@federicoapl]

abby was korean wasn't she, she does speak it sometimes, it can still from his father side, but it's a weak point.

[@hazemahmed6943]

I really love Abby she's like scary energetic and adorable all mixed into one!

[@AngelJuliet]

@@federicoapl yes! If you turn the captions on in the movie you’ll see it say [speaking Korean]

[@fantasticwhovian3061]

The second death fits with Sun Yee too! Since she's still remembered by her family, via them meeting her in the ritual, that's how shes able to still guide them through the mirror!

[@ritakrill6211]

The pink/purple/yellow flowers on Boo's door and Abby's clothes REALLY got me! Holy cow, I mean it just CAN"T be a coincidence!! Love that you caught that detail (:

[@Angel_principe_Art]

It’s a Easter egg. Boo can’t be Abby due to Abby being Korean and Boo being Hispanic (Pixar confirmed Boo is Hispanic and Boo is getting her own show from what I heard)

[@sunnidune]

@@Angel_principe_Art no one said boo was Abby, though I don't agree with the theory that she's her mother either

[@helphim5582]

U R old

[@fanguy2901]

@@Angel_principe_Art thats called interracial marrige

[@savannahwestover7144]

Plus look at Abby's and Boo's hair and eye color. They are very similar

[@ShadowEclipex]

Turning Red helps prove the idea that it is indeed Emotions that power pretty much everything. Because what is it that triggers Mei's transformation? Strong Emoitions! Also when you said that there isn't any God-Like entities in the Pixar Universe, I think you are forgetting the Jerrys from Soul. The ones who manage souls... or spirits. Why would they help out humans by binding Red Panda spirits to them? No clue. But maybe you could figure out some ideas?

[@10Raccoon]

Honestly? They probably just got bored. Seems like something they would do

[@ShadowEclipex]

@@10Raccoon Very true

[@benitron1]

@@10Raccoon Terry would not approve.

[@kennyholmes5196]

@@benitron1 Terry would if the spirit in question showed up on-time. Terry doesn't care about what happens, only that the count is maintained.

[@caitlinelric]

I was hoping for the connection to the red panda ritual to Moon Wind’s ritual in Soul. The angry panda spirits remind me of the lost soul designs.

[@sonowbrand7824]

They both involve circles if I recall.

[@caitlinelric]

@@sonowbrand7824 The shaman's staff looks very similar to Moon Wind's. The family plays similar instruments to the Mystics without Borders. I believe he even uses some of the same language concerning the metaphysical plane. In this said metaphysical plane, the red panda spirits have a similar glowing eyes to the lost souls. It's almost like being overcome with emotions alone can synonymously become like an obsession which is what makes lost souls what they are. Edit: I rewatched Turning Red and realized the shaman uses a sword and not a staff. My bad.

[@MordredPendragon7997]

Interesting theory. One nitpick from someone with a zoology major brother though: red pandas aren't bears. They're in their own family, Ailuridae, rather than being part of the bear family, Ursidae. Their super family, Musteloidea, the weasel super family, is more closely related to seals and sea lions than to bears.

[@ajwinberg]

I too was thrown off by him calling red pandas, bears.

[@arturoroblesruiz346]

WHAAAAAT?! 😱

[@birdybirdboy2912]

You lost me at nitpick

[@chanbricks4461]

Yep, red pandas are not at all related to normal pandas.

[@lialaokami]

It was driving me crazy the entire video, thank you

[@Chikararyoku]

the only thing missing is the movie where Boo learns how to travel through time and magic, or both

[@suzyeide2320]

Boo needs her own movie about how she slowly transitions into a witch who is trying to capture her childhood dreams of playing with the blue monster

[@dannyleyamato1309]

Lightyear~

[@theJimgenie626]

She would need to travel through space as well since she's not on the same world as all the other films

[@noodleydoo2862]

I saw another comment suggest that she learned magic from the priest in turning red

[@Chikararyoku]

@@noodleydoo2862 now that's an interesting one. but it seems, if she becomes the witch, she reverses the proses. instead of sealing, she bestows

[@Robert-ht7om]

What if Pixar is making movies to go against the theory only to have you guys find and make connections frustrating them even more.

[@osmosisjones4912]

What about the Jarries aren't they gods

[@ducktaledudette]

Just to mess with them, that would be BEAUTIFUL

[@nicholashunter579]

I certainly hope so lol

[@thatsjstgreatpingpng]

I think Pixar is fully aware of the theory and plays along making it work. And then in like 10 years or so from now they make a movie completely destroying the whole thing.

[@ShadowEclipex]

@@osmosisjones4912 I don't think they are gods, but they could still fill the roll. They do manage souls... or spirits.

[@joshuasavan4386]

I’m surprised there wasn’t any mention about how similar this movie is to Soul. The singing, the spiritual dimension, the ritual, 22 landing in Asia, etc. Also, does Sun Yee’s shrine count as an Ofrenda? One that works on the lunar eclipse instead of just Dia de los muertos?

[@raylop80731]

Soul takes place around 2020ish where Turning Red takes place in 2002.

[@joshuasavan4386]

@@raylop80731 yeah I know. I’m saying they hold similar magic systems, it’s similar to what Moonwind does, and we clearly see a version of the spiritual realm. In fact Coco and Turning Red reveal two different versions of the spiritual realm/great beyond dependent on culture which is a whole other topic that could be tackled. As far as 22’s landing, the great before doesn’t exactly follow the same path of time as the main universe, for example you can see an axiom in the movie as well and that’s supposed to be well in the future, so it’s not crazy to think that 22 could be part of the red panda lineage.

[@fernikus927]

@joshuasavan OMG I’m totally with you! I was waiting for the analysis of the soul ritual vs the panda ritual and was disappointed that it wasn’t mentioned AT ALL! I would’ve hoped that someone else caught that and these guys who over analyze every aspect didn’t mention what I thought was an obvious connection.

[@joshuasavan4386]

@@fernikus927 yeah who knows they might put out a whole video about that later and that’s why they didn’t mention it 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@discofuchs490]

Personality-wise, I feel like 22 could even be Meilin herself. The way she can control her Panda could be because she is an old soul, and they apparently share a certain joy of life. Awesome new headcanon!

[@kezottle]

I'm pretty sure we're all aware this theory is extremely unlikely to be canon but we all listen to it and observe while being mesmerized by it

[@theJimgenie626]

Due to Kingdom Hearts 3, it can't be canon really.

[@sion8]

That's basically me. I think it's complete bupkis, however, I like to listen to it as it's just so fun how people can grab to the smallest thing and make it significant.

[@pjomdbfan]

@@theJimgenie626 isn’t kingdom hearts from disney?

[@theJimgenie626]

@@pjomdbfan it is Disney owned yes

[@pjomdbfan]

@@theJimgenie626 then it isn’t important for the pixar theory. (at least that’s how i see it)

[@DisneyLuver97]

Can you do another full Pixar theory video? It’s so confusing watching in pieces

[@rokhsanaparvinnupur5692]

Yeah the last time they updated the the completed version was 3 years ago

[@ellasummers9671]

Also because of the super's being legal in America and the presence of superhumans being normalised, it also explains why Toronto seems very chill and accepting over a random panda girl living there especially after one destroying government property.

[@sion8]

Actually, private property as most stadiums are. It's even in the credits who Disney had to ask permission to in order to use the name “Skydome” in this movie. Anyways, I did find that quite funny, but in the second Incredibles they weren't made legal yet (again), they just weren't going to erase that many people's memories of the event as the government had been doing up until that time.

[@ellasummers9671]

@@sion8 Sorry I didn't do my research. I meant it as property that was big and everyone knew of. But still the existence of super humans was still normalised so still kinda makes sense.

[@sion8]

@@ellasummers9671 I did find the acceptance of her red panda form to be peculiar. Specially give the fact that Ming has such a power version! Mei didn't really cause much damage, while her mom went to town on Toronto!!!

[@CookieCat712]

Mmm makes sense

[@timpancakes2011]

I'm still not totally convinced that Boo is the witch from Brave, though it is fun to speculate; but I LOVE the idea of Boo as Abby's mom.

[@newtrabbitman1999]

I think if this idea the Pixar theory was right, I would actually alter his theory and say that Boo found out about the enchantment on her family's women, duplicated and altered it. Of course, altering the transformation enchantment into a red panda into instead a bear. The only problem is this: Why would she do that? Lol. Idk the Pixar Theory is crazy. From the writer's perspective, she loves how her movie turned and probably doesn't want it to be part of a big universe. You would think that by now, Pixar would deny it as it has grown so much. A lot of people talk about the theory

[@madnessarcade7447]

Same I think she was in TS4

[@Mr1991bbk]

@@newtrabbitman1999 why would she do it? By the time she is an old lady, the mother would likely know of the monster future. Not only that but she would know how much having an animal spirit could help. So she travels through time magically introducing that monster element to humans to make it easier for humans to be able to hide in a monster world and protect their family. This could explain the mother's monstrous panda, it is influenced by her meeting with Sully.

[@paigelarson9279]

Glad I’m not the only one who didn’t vibe with Boo being in Brave

[@theJimgenie626]

She can't be. Sora, Donald and Goofy visit Toy Story which Pixar have said is canon and they then go to another world and visit Monsters Inc. so if Brave is on the same world as Toy Story, then it's impossible.

[@jazz_meh]

Boo being a BOO-mer (haha) is, for some reason, hilarious 😂

[@answeris746]

I’m surprised the Pixar theory is still a thing, I would’ve thought by now something would’ve happened that deconfirmed it but I guess not surprisingly

[@SuperCarlinBrothers]

Certainly not! There really isnt any disproving it the game is to make everything fit (but honestly it pretty much just always does of its own accord anyway)

[@damired]

@@SuperCarlinBrothers what do you think of a crossover between some Pixar movies? What films would you choose to unite?

[@crimsonsquid270]

@@damired Ratatouille and finding Nemo / finding Dory

[@jackguest145]

@@damired monsters Inc and toy story

[@hubertnnn]

@@crimsonsquid270 Fish and chips?

[@buckethead60]

7:44 Heh, I remember watching the part where Mei almost rips the picture of Sun Yee, I yelled out "MEND THE TAPESTRY" because of how similar it was about to get with Brave

[@GhostKitten69]

Boo as Abby's mom feels like a stretch to me, but it's still totally reasonable that she'd hear about Pandapocalypse, travel to the family-owned panda shrine, (even if she didn't live in Toronto) and ask a million questions

[@ginkotre3]

The math doesn't add up either. that's a long time to wait to have a kid. Abby is more likely a grandkid than anything else

[@katherinegilks3880]

@@ginkotre3 Abby was born in 1989, so her mum would have been 34 if she had been born in 1955 (approx year of Boo’s birth). That is quite a normal age to have a child, especially if Abby is not her oldest.

[@advent9225]

What if Abby was actually aware of Boo's pixar theory mission and is in on helping her? Remember everyone in the school found out about Mei's panda because she wanted her to transform to "help her think." Bernie: Coincidence? I think not!

[@kevkevplays5662]

I would love to see boo figure out time travel, even if it’s a short or an entire movie, just seeing her master time travel and then it ending with her seeing sully

[@IslandPunchProductions]

Could you imagine after a decade of these dudes making pixar theory videos for each new Pixar movie we see an actual show,short,or movie about it

[@BaronVladHarkonnen]

@@IslandPunchProductions that’d be a dream come true. But it’ll probably never happen

[@andrecostajesus]

If in that hypothetical movie Boo actually meets Sully, all the dads in the movie theater would be crying like babies. That could be like the best closing movie for Pixar.

[@gior9204]

"you can see mordu's if you look really closly because it is literally everywhere" LOL had me laughing

[@sion8]

What?

[@gior9204]

@@sion8 they said it in the episode

[@sion8]

@@gior9204 I don't recognize that name? Is it the bear guy from “Brave”?

[@gior9204]

@@sion8 yea lol at 8:58

[@sion8]

@@gior9204 🤦‍♂️Oh. I misread. You mean Mordu, I read Mobius.😅

[@lazygirl2.153]

1995: What if toys had feelings 2006: What if cars had feelings 2008: What if robots had feelings 2012: What if Scotland had feelings 2015: What if feelings had feelings 2017: What if dead Mexicans had feelings 2020: What if souls had feelings 2021: What if Italian fish people had feelings 2022: What if feelings are red pandas

[@XboxTF2Tidbits]

I was waiting for this! As soon as I finished the movie I thought “I’m gonna have fun seeing people going mad trying to fit this in!”

[@klemchowder1692]

i really think there should be a new video on the pixar theory from start to finish. it's been so long and there have been so many new additions and i think it would be really helpful. I've been saying this for years but never commented or anything. i think it would be helpful for those new to the fandom (as they would have to piece it together through other videos) and fun and nostalgic for those of us who have been here since the beginning.

[@matthewgleason8003]

they need to do a yearly recap and update if they are going to keep adding in

[@sewthernbelle]

The only fly in the ointment is that Abby says her mom cuts hair at the salon. Unless she’s a hairdresser by day and temporal physicist by night…

[@halyoalex8942]

Every good superhero needs a day job.

[@shawnlilly5934]

You’re not gonna mention how the ritual is very very similar to the ritual to retrieve lost souls in the movie Soul? Both are used to separate an inconvenient and powerful emotional state from an otherwise normal and logical thinking person in a mystical realm and then bring them back to their body’s, now with more agency and emotional freedom

[@NikNak32]

I love this theory and I would totally go to a 4 town concert. I also think you should make an updated "completed Pixar theory" video just to put all the pieces together.

[@JesseStarling]

I can just imagine Pixar making a new movie thinking "man these guys are never gonna fit this into their little theory"

[@TheNinjaPiglet]

Have you seen their latest video featuring Lightyear? It either breaks it or is just part of the Toy Story line.

[@JesseStarling]

@@TheNinjaPiglet yeah I did see that video. im excited to see the full movie, hopefully it will make more sense there

[@LuLu8CH8]

I would love to see and updated version of the Pixar Theory!!

[@LuLu8CH8]

*an

[@isaacbluestone1462]

Let me guess the next video. “Who is Mei’s monster?”

[@Deadpool-ri3rq]

I think they can't actually, because this would be the future of Monsters Inc and we don't have data about which monsters are operational 40 years later

[@hassanalkhalaf1115]

@@Deadpool-ri3rq imagine it's Tylor

[@jrcsmash2150]

I've been waiting for this, because I just could not wrap my head around how this movie fits in the Pixar Theory. but I do have 1 question? isn't Abby of Korean descent? Or is she simply fluent in it? (she speaks Korean twice in the film). Granted if she was that doesnt automatically deconfirm the idea of Boo being her mother, it could be from the fathers side.

[@Ericshadowblade]

We dont actual know what boo's cultral descent is so she could have been korean

[@daleldalel]

Apparently Boo was Hispanic from comments here. Still, her partner could be Korean.

[@freyss9]

abby is definitely korean-canadian, even her voice actor is korean

[@iNachoCheez]

Boos family could’ve been Korean as well or Boo just married someone Korean. But they do look similar as children

[@saxybison]

She's a fan of the 'k-pop' member of the band. I have tons of students that are not Korean, that are learning Korean language because of k-pop bands.

[@MarrvelFan123]

Mei would make a great avenger she has the strength of a giant red panda and can infinitely jump

[@osmosisjones4912]

The Jarry are gods

[@bagofcole8083]

She is literally the hulk if the hulk was a panda

[@wheelinganddealing8232]

The incredible red panda strikes again

[@coolnerdlll6053]

With how annoying I found her, she and Darcy would get along great.

[@AtlasIsC00l]

OHHHH YOUR RIGHT

[@Hostler_illustrations]

Jeez you guys really are talented at weaving these new stories into the pt

[@jamesh.metaphor5131]

Love the video and the fact you're still managing to fit new films into the pixar theory. On a side note, I love the idea of the red panda transformation being great for keeping the family (and village or community) safe at first, but becoming an inconvenience or something that causes harm in a modern setting. It's a perfect metaphor for stress and depression, since stress comes from our adrenaline fight-or-flight (or-flock-or-freeze) reaction and the fact that in the modern world we often can't do those things, meaning conflict between our bodies saying one thing and our minds saying another. If that continues, it leads to mental health issues like depression. Like mr incredible wanting to save people but having to work an office job, so in order to stay "sane", he helps his customers more than he should. He listens to his body and "fights" the system, in a way. Meilin's family have a reaction to emotions that they suppress, because trying to control it in a modern world causes them stress, but the film does a great job of showing that repressing that doesn't make the problem go away and when that repressed emotion breaks free, it's even more harmful, hence pandapocalypse. But learning to embrace your emotions and release them in a good way leads to her being much more mentally healthy, and I love that she reaches that point through her interaction with her friends. It's worth comparing turning red to encanto, from a storytelling perspective, where both families are given a gift that they pass down, to protect or serve their community and while encanto is about not letting that service suppress who you are as an individual, turning red is about not suppressing the gift or service in order to be yourself. They both push the idea of striking a healthy balance, which is ideal. =]

[@RespawnGod]

Also Abby's reaction to the red panda is very "Boo"

[@julyakacarrie6260]

HECK YEAH.

[@idarekorval8077]

@@julyakacarrie6260 Actually I think it's more of a shout out to the little black haired girl in "Despicable Me".

[@rokhsanaparvinnupur5692]

Ikr + the way she hugs her immediately reminds me of when Boo saw Sulley

[@iank768]

Theory: Meimei is 22 from Soul. It makes way too much sense. Their personalities are way too close. After 22 fell down to earth with Joe, she was reincarnated into Meimei. Let me explain: You could make the argument that 22 is more sassy, but 22 became more open minded and optimistic by the end of Soul, but still retained some of the sass, and at the very beginning of Turning Red, she is the complete embodiment of that word. Plus, at the end of Soul, when she's falling to earth with Joe, she falls towards Asia, and guess who else is Asian? MEIMEI, thats who! You could also make the argument that she lives in Canada, but I counter that with the possibility that her parents and family moved to Canada before she was born. Boom. 22 is Meimei. I think that's a solid theory.

[@princetbug]

@Dangerous path long after? wait when is turning red supposed to take place? I'd figure they're like 10 years apart max

[@iank768]

@Dangerous path Dang. You're right. I really thought I was onto something there.

[@skipplayz7577]

To be fair they say the Great Before does not follow normal time rules

[@raylop80731]

Except Soul takes place YEARS after Turning Red.

[@raylop80731]

@@princetbug turning Red takes place in 2002. They call the date out at the end of the movie

[@COLORMIND.mp4]

Cool workaround but i dont think Boo needs to be directly related to anyone in Turning Red for the theory to still work. As noted, it would definitely been an international story; maybe Boo travels to Toronto and over time learns from Ming and Mei more about the magic that allows humans to turn into animals (and time travel?) She would probably be researching and traveling all over the world at this age, desperately looking for a way back to Sully

[@mysticaldemon5673]

i think something people don’t understand is this is called a theory for a reason. i think most of us are aware this isn’t canon but it’s still super fun to think about and connect all the puzzle pieces. i love this channel and i think you guys do an awesome job

[@williamsmith6921]

yeah, far fetched theorization in general like this is less about discovering the truth and more a puzzle about fitting the canon together while making as little large jumps as possible, obviously writers don't intend for or even consider these types of things in almost any story but it isn't about what is canon

[@sidtheviciouscritic7292]

I like how each movie pieces the theory together more and more.

[@Sk8rToon]

You lucked out with the Toronto/scare time zone thing. And I love it!

[@kennyholmes5196]

Quebec's in the same zone, so it could have been any of the cities from the time zone.

[@multiplefandomlover7179]

There are no accidents.

[@Miro_2023]

Can you make an updated full Pixar Theory video?

[@gabriellockwood2780]

14:15 "Where'd he come from even?... or where he went?" *Sully IS Cotton-eyed Joe CONFIRMED*

[@boi2803]

I love how y’all r able to make movies just slip right into the theory

[@PudgeySeal]

For the amount of work and research that goes into these videos, I'm a bit surprised they missed fairly common (or so I thought) animal trivia that red panda's aren't bears.. and didn't double check how Sun Yee's name is pronounced... lol

[@sion8]

He said Lee instead of Yee, because he probably kept in mind Mei's surname. Not mispronounced more wrong surname.

[@kharabrown2975]

Anybody else notice that Mordu's spirit contained a glowing spirit like the ones in Soul?

[@wizardvozk5874]

I think it’s worth mentioning that when the witch gave the potion to Mor’du she told him he could either share it or keep it to himself. It’s possible the Sun Yee was given a similar choice but chose to share it with her daughters. Perhaps the reason Mor’du stayed as a bear is because he kept it all to himself while Sun Yee and her descendants can change back and forth due to Sun Yee sharing it.

[@charliedelfino2102]

Finally, another Pixar Theory video!

[@BevanBoychuk]

This is absolutely the wildest but best Pixar theory video. Boo is Canadian?!?! AND was there for panda pocypse?!

[@seamusruiz5862]

Never expected boo to become a manipulating time traveling witch who turns people in to bears with a good motive

[@sorryipanicked3849]

All I got from this video is that Boo, possibly the most powerful being in the Pixar Universe, is Canadian.

[@joelalmer3918]

Plausible. I love it! I could totally see the witch complaining about 4town music!

[@TheDancingDame]

Also, if Boo is Abby's mother. That means her daughter was friends with Meilin BEFORE pandapocalypse occurred. Perhaps that's purely a coincidence where Boo first heard about the magic. If she was in her 40s around this time, assuming she spent years trying to find him again, she might have given up on trying to find Sully and began to live a normal life. Until, she hears about her daughter's friend who can transform into a panda. As an adult now, she probably tried to make sense of what Sully was. Hearing this story might've made her think this is what sully was or what he originated from. Boo might've been inspired from this point on to continue searching for him and that's when she began to learn about magic and time travel. She then spends her time trying to recreate this magic herself and eventually travels back in time to 'Brave' and "blesses" Mordue with similar magic. It's not the same obviously because she was trying to replicate a gift from a God with magic. Boo might've realized that other cultures may hold the secret to magic and traveled to learn about it. Which might explain why she ended up in scotland.

[@Iheartseattle1]

Red pandas are not bears! They’re genetically closer to raccoons.

[@lialaokami]

Even then they're really their own thing lol

[@sion8]

Actually they aren't closely related, that's a common misconception about red pandas and raccoons.

[@Amy-tr3ui]

Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but Abby also really enjoyed hugging Mei Lee in panda form, like Boo hugged sully... it just seemed like she liked hugging the panda more than the other friends, like it meant something deeper to her, and Mei Lee's panda was a similar size to Sully, and the fur just made me think of Sully's fur (like it would feel the same texture-wise). Is this another similarity between mother and daughter? Or did Boo teach her daughter to love monsters as she loved them? Or did she maybe have a Sully doll or something that she gave to her daughter (I feel like this is something Boo would do)? Or did Sully also visit Abby while trying to visit Boo? Just seems like another thread to follow???

[@BoxKingKevin]

How sore do your arms or legs get having to move the chair left and right every few sentences?

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

What I think happens is when you harness a powerful magic like this. What you originally seek it for sort of binds you and your lineage to a “spirit animal” of sorts. Like for protection it’s a red panda, for power it’s a bear. What if other animals represent other desires. What animal is the desire for wealth? For giving? For love? Is “strength” different to “power”

[@benjaminstiles]

I find it the hilarious that of all the possible mistakes/miscommunications these guys could’ve possibly made, the only one that I noticed was the mixing up that a red panda is not a bear.

[@Dimas5]

Get you someone who lifts you up the same way Ben always has his hands lifted up.

[@MrAqr2598]

Wow, Boo is really thorough about making time loops to keep Sulley (and Mike) alive.

[@jsb8261]

"Giant Godzilla Panda" Not something you were expecting to hear today, huh?

[@sofig1237]

So what you're telling me is, Abby is Edna Mode's granddaughter?!?!?!?!

[@MichaelTaylor-qp2xf]

I love the thought of Abby, my favorite character in Turning Red, as the daughter of Boo, the most important figure in the Pixar Theory.

[@Showtunediva]

Me too ! I think it makes sense.

[@witweg4891]

What if the way boo learned to do magic was that she found a door that went to the planet that onward takes place on

[@nishunt]

Pixar executive: "This wasn't at all planned but it makes so much sense. Let's announce it cannon and make it look like we planned it all along."

[@James-----]

I like how every time you cut you move your chair

[@julyakacarrie6260]

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[@shaykireas]

Imagine one day Pixar just sends out a tweet saying “man… yall overthink a lot lol”

[@sion8]

I just find it so funny this is the first Pixar movie I can think of with an actual date! The whole movie takes place between April and May of 2002! No other Pixar movie is anywhere near that specific.

[@multiplefandomlover7179]

Woth all due respect, it's actually not. The Incredibles has a scene where Bob is reading a newspaper and it gives a specific year. And in Monster's Inc., when Rox slams the gate of her office on Mike's finger, it also shows a calendar with the month and year as well. Turning Red was more obvious this time around.

[@miriamalsop]

if Boo created the magic for humans to turn into bears, and if Sully is maybe descended from those people after years of evolution, then maybe Boo is not only responsible for stopping Sully experiencing the final death, but also for his creation in the first place

[@Capthook00]

Personally, I feel this Pixar theory is 99% spot on, I just feel theres a bigger reason for this timeline other than Boo simply wanting to stop a second death. I think we're missing a bigger piece of the puzzle..yet to be discovered. What if Sully is just the cherry on top, the side mission she accomplished along her REAL reason... or I could be wrong who knows.

[@theJimgenie626]

Currently the theory isn't 99% spot on. In Kingdom Hearts 3, Sora, Donald and Goofy visit the world of Toy Story. Pixar have confirmed that this visit is canon and occurs inbetween Toy Story 2 and 3. Sora, Donald and Goofy then leave and travel to another world, Monsters Inc. This means that Toy Story and Monsters Inc occur on different worlds.

[@Deadpool-ri3rq]

@@theJimgenie626 You can stop Kingdom Hearts fanboying on every single comment that supports the Pixar theory now. No one cares about Kingdom Hearts 3.

[@theJimgenie626]

@@Deadpool-ri3rq I'm not fanboying. It's a legitimate talking point in regards to this theory that should be addressed.

[@kennyholmes5196]

Ever heard of the Matriyoshka Nexus Theory?

[@Deadpool-ri3rq]

@@theJimgenie626 Make your own comment. Stop posting this on everyone else's comments. What you're doing is known in online circles as "cringe."

[@daniela.valadez8870]

I somewhat agree with the SCB's Pixar Theory, and I like the idea that Boo married a Korean since Abby is a Canadian-Korean, and yeah, I do think Boo might be, might be the Witch as well from Brave.

[@enochsmith4731]

I could see Pixar making a movie in the future following the story of boo, I would love it if they did.

[@hubertnnn]

Yeah, it could be her trying to create Sully, so first she created Mordu, then the second black bear, then the Red panda and finally after many attempts she creates Sully. Or possibly his ancestor.

[@FlopNonStop]

it would probably debunk the Pixar theory if they did make it

[@RainbowLi]

@@FlopNonStop I think ppls from Pixar now about PT and placing all this hints in movies on purpose.

[@FlopNonStop]

@@RainbowLi maybe but idk

[@LPSLuvTetu99]

Homeboy took me out when he pointed out Abby's visual motif lines up way too good w Boo's visual motif 😭💜🦋

[@wokenlunatic2849]

I think Turing Red is in the same time line when Mr. Incredible and Elastic Girl ware in there prime because there’s a lot classic thing like those techno pets and the boy band is kinda like The Backstreet Boys

[@donkeykong4684]

yeah only at the end of the movie they mentioned 2002 and Mie was still a little girl so if it when around the time that Mr, Incredible and Elastic Girl were in their prime would have made it the early to mid-50s they timeline doesn't fit

[@wokenlunatic2849]

@@donkeykong4684 I can’t remember what timeline Mr. Incredible and Elastic Girl are in there prime

[@donkeykong4684]

@@wokenlunatic2849 well i believe the movie takes place in the late 50s to mid 60 so I'm assuming that they are in there prime in the early 50s

[@wokenlunatic2849]

@@donkeykong4684 okay so maybe Turning Red take place in ether Soul or Toy Story when Andy was young

[@donkeykong4684]

@@wokenlunatic2849 yeah that's definitely a possibility

[@angibolton6300]

This also makes sense why abby is so obsessed with meis panda form. She probably heard her mother's stories of seeing "kitty" and wanted her own "kitty" friend

[@sibladun]

Pixar: Multiverse of Madness

[@sarahlynn3917]

The Theorizer's 'Baby Smitty' video blows the Pixar Theory out of the water though. Also, BNL, the ball, Pizza Planet truck, etc seemed to be absent in Turning Red.

[@multiplefandomlover7179]

They're actually not! They're just very hidden in the film.

[@ZoomGameClips]

I have a video idea for you, I know it sounds crazy, but I think you should try and fit Encanto into the Pixar Theory, it just fits well! You already made a video about how it connects to Luca, and it was shown in that video that it connects to WALL-E. And you talked about how the red panda was a "GIFT". It could show that what happened in the madrigal family happens to other families yet in different forms, or that their part of the same family. I'm not super sure about this theory because I'm not the best movie theorist but I do think you guys should look into it.

[@esajpsasipes2822]

the thing is, encanto is not from pixar, even if it technically is the same company, and the thing with luca was just... it didn't feel nearly as right as some other stuff

[@Half-BloodUniversity_]

Love it! Thanks guys!!

[@noahdean9685]

I want to know who Mai monster would be from monsters Inc I like to imagine it's a scary giant red panda maybe with a yo-kai whatever Chinese demon mask

[@TheRibottoStudios]

Every time I think "nah this won't work, it has a very specific year it'll break the theory." YOU SURPRISE ME AGAIN. Love to see it.

[@M.W.K6996]

I have to admit that I really enjoyed the movie. It was weird and really out there, and that's what I liked about it. I really enjoy when animated projects that don't shy away from family problems, teenage drama or social issues. The characters, animation and voice acting were all done very well. They did a good job of showing how scary changing and growing up can be, but it happens for a reason. But like any other Disney movie, the problem is mostly resolved to quickly. Forgiving and moving on is important, but its not easy (like they make it seem in their movies). Ming did the exact same thing to Mei that her mother did to her - and she didn't see that? If nothing is ever going to be good enough, you shouldn't push a child to be perfect. Healing can happen...but it takes time. (Ming shouldn't need to apologize. She may have given her mother that scar, but it was Wu's controlling and overbearing nature that caused such an act.) People may call the portrayal of Chinese culture in this movie racist or stereotypical; but it isn't if its all fact. Most families of Asian cultures are very controlling and pass that toxic quirk to their children. Parents shouldn't push their desires onto their children, because than the children never get to live their own lives. If your kids rebel, its most likely because you're refusing to listen to them. If there's a sequel, I seriously hope that Disney doesn't tone down the problems and issues of growing up.

[@redpandamurphy]

17:12 it was weird to skip ahead in the video by accident and land on this piece of Ben out of context.

[@Jonathanest90s]

It’s going to be interesting on how Lightyear will fit in the Theory. Since it’s a movie within the Toy Story timeline.

[@arturoayala1004]

Probably between wall-e and Cars. Maybe.

[@sarahglover3286]

Literally just from having this in my notifications for the last few days has meant everytime I wake my phone up I have the Pixar Theory song in my head, thanks boys!

[@e.l.gstudios31]

I agree all the way, but I still feel like Turning Red, in a specific but odd way, made a path to many Pixar possibilities, or in short, a way to seek Pixar Multiverse, where every movie exist in different timelines in their own outcomes, so far there at least 3, the original, everything up towards toy story 4, and the new timeline set with turning red, so far with my speculation

[@Itsjace_]

Ive been waiting for thissssss

[@BenjaminDolphin]

The question I want answered is WHY WAS MEI'S MOM SO BIG WHEN THE REST OF THE FAMILY WAS AVEREAGE?!

[@kennyholmes5196]

Probably a case of sequestered power. Being the head of a family tends to give one a lot of social power.

[@mickipou]

I was thinking that the panda power was pented up in the pendant for so long that it builded up and exploded or somthing

[@shaina8947]

@@mickipou no, her husband told mei that her panda was big even when she was younger

[@shaina8947]

i think it has something to do with a large amount of bottled up emotions, since that is what brings out the panda

[@mickipou]

@@shaina8947 ohhhh Damm that's really cool does it have to be only anger or can it be other emotions as well

[@thieuthieu]

8:08 lololololol Did not expect that, caught me way off-guard!

[@geraldgrenier8132]

"The family patriarch" I think you mean the "family matriarch" patriarch is male head of the family, the email head is matriarch.

[@Miriam-ob8tz]

I LOVE the integration of Boo/the witch from Brave into Turning Red!

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

In 2025, PIXAR Animation Studios will be 30 Years Old!

[@pinetreereviews4650]

No it’s more then 30 years old

[@muhmuhmonahan4919]

My 4-year-old daughter asked me, "So, one day will I turn into a giant red panda?" I said, "No, but one day you will be a hormonal, BIG FEELINGS teenager, and Daddy and I will be here for you, and if you want to go to a concert we find obnoxious, we'll take you, we'll wear ear plugs and sit a couple rows away, but we'll take you." My husband then chimes in, "I'll wear the T-shirt and dance with you!" We're going to embarrass her, but NOT by shaking pads at her in front of her classmates, we have our own ways.

[@lydbowyer5774]

Been waiting for this since turning red love it.

[@julyakacarrie6260]

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[@austintaylor6721]

I like to think that grown up Boo learned magic, probably from the shaman in this movie, and went back in time and passed it on to Sun Yee to ensure that she could learn it.

[@TimmyDaTurtle]

I think I might have a better alternating theory that better pieces together the pixar lore than the current theory. the current theory is that all of the pixar movies exist within one timeline, but what if they weren't. I believe that there are multiple "realms" in pixar that explain the way pixar works. Using turning red and monsters inc for example, we can see that there are currently 3 realms. The human realm, the spirit realm, and the monster realm. It also explains a lot of things. I'll use Wall - E as the start, as all of the humans resembled realistic humans at first, then evolved into the more cartoonish humans that we see in the "human" movies. The theory is that society had to rebuild itself from the ground up, and eventually regressed back to normal.

[@sion8]

The humans from “Wall-E” had late 21th century at their disposal, why would they regresse to tech from 2002? They weren't starting from scratch, they were in fact restating society with way more advanced capabilities and culture, specially after realizing they need to be more environmentally conscious. Look, I don't think those movies connect at all, it's for fun, but the only thing that connects them is the fact that they are made by the same studio which doesn't say much as many studios release many movies and TV shows all the time and none catch this sort of fan theory.

[@faygo_cupcake]

Omg abby being boo's kid makes so much sense the hair the face features it all fits plus shes part Korean (idk if boo was every confermed to be anything other then just 'asian' but he features do fit korean the best )