Superchargers vs Turbo Kits: Which to Choose?

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11 жыл бұрын

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@xXcondidiXx
@xXcondidiXx 10 жыл бұрын
Why not both?
@AndysAutoSportTV
@AndysAutoSportTV 11 жыл бұрын
We were speaking of properly sized turbos, which is why lag wasn't mentioned. In a well-sorted turbo kit or custom setup, lag is not an issue. Thanks for watching!
@musskeeterbump
@musskeeterbump 5 жыл бұрын
Supercharger for a daily Turbo for the track and weekends . In terms of reliability
@milesjohnson8821
@milesjohnson8821 10 жыл бұрын
Only centrifugal superchargers reach their maximum boost at redline. Twin screws don't
@EnvyMeGkB
@EnvyMeGkB 10 жыл бұрын
Id have to disagree, superchargers are way faster off the line and deliver boost much quicker than a turbo... While you are hammering low end torque off the line with the S/C the turbo needs some time to spool. Don't get it twisted though once the turbo spools up it's a race to the end!
@HAHAdom
@HAHAdom 11 жыл бұрын
Personally, I love my supercharger :) On a daily driven car, it gives a really satisfying feeling of effortless torque even when just driving around town. Plus I can't get enough of the sound ;)
@tlv156
@tlv156 10 жыл бұрын
I love the sound and simplicity of the supercharger better. Just me though.
@CyberGMonster
@CyberGMonster 10 жыл бұрын
Another pro for SC setup? That whine!! I love it!!
@KTM990WFO
@KTM990WFO 10 жыл бұрын
A lot of people bring up the fact that superchargers require a bit of power from the engine in order for them to turn as well. What people also forget is that a turbocharger sits right in the middle of the exhaust flow, which still robs horsepower. It's not a direct leech like a supercharger, but it is still a deficiency IE the engine would make more power without the turbo interrupting the exhaust flow. However the boost the turbo provides far outweighs the small loss of power it causes, just like a supercharger.
@MrBaldman009
@MrBaldman009 10 жыл бұрын
I guess someone forgot to mention about turbo lag?! Turbos are absolutely useless until enough exhaust pressure is built up in the engine to spin the compressor! Superchargers are better because they constantly run from idle to redline with no lag inbetween! Power comes on smoother and is constant through the powerband of the engine!
@PhoenixAutosportsExperience
@PhoenixAutosportsExperience 10 жыл бұрын
Since when does a positive displacement blower need rpm to make peak boost? He's not differentiating between centrifugal and positive displacement blowers.
@Trav450ER
@Trav450ER 10 жыл бұрын
I hate it when people say "you put on an 8lbs pulley and you'll be making 8lbs!" NO! Pulleys are referred to in SIZE, like 3.3", 2.76", and so fourth... every engine is different. A bone stock engine running (for example an Eaton M112 blower, stock on the 03-04 Terminators) with stock exhaust including manifolds and air intake system will run 8lbs of boost with a 3.3" pulley. Where as the same engine with full exhaust work, long tube headers, aftermarket cold air intake, allowing the engine to breathe better may run 6lbs of boost on that same pulley. Seen it may times where people ask why they drop boost numbers when they upgrade the intake and exhaust... Pulleys are refereed to by size... not how many lbs of boost they make. Now advantages to Turbos: Make power at the mid to top end, gets its power from a waste product, and can support high HP numbers, but Disadvantages are Turbo lag, and how much room you have to play with, and how much you want to spend. Supercharger advantages: Torque and HP at an instant, but can only support so much power until you need to upgrade and so fourth... Disadvantage: Uses engine power to make power... so you give a little to get a lot!
@jakeshinnick2011
@jakeshinnick2011 6 жыл бұрын
God damn your videos are just straight forward , non biased and excellent. Thank you so much for making these. I watch alot of KZbin but this is television level and I love it.
@kahlesssmith9681
@kahlesssmith9681 10 жыл бұрын
You can change the boost on superchargers. centrifugal superchargers work pretty much like turbos except they are belt driven. you can throw a wastegate on those and pulley them for 20+ but run them at whatever you feel like with a proper controller.
@TheSwackar
@TheSwackar 10 жыл бұрын
this is the way i look at it. if your car already has a turbo/SC stick with what it has. if it doesnt have either i would go with a SC unless you know what you are doing or you have alot of money and time for someone else to do it
@Wildkat-1
@Wildkat-1 10 жыл бұрын
If turbos made more HP, then Top Fuel & Funny Cars would be using them , turbos do sap less HP from the engine to operate, but you loose boost at low rpm & have to waste boost at high rpm, thus making tuning a constant struggle. Roots & vane type Sup.Chgrs. are much more efficient and less trouble to maintain ..plus you can dial the prefered boost pressure according to the overdrive ...
@aspieotaku3580
@aspieotaku3580 10 жыл бұрын
You get more power out of turbo than super chargers but costs more and theres lag while superchargers are cheaper and theres no lag.
@NQGriggs
@NQGriggs 10 жыл бұрын
2:33 " You just uninstall the top portion of the manifold, you bolt [the supercharger] into place, hook up a belt, and it's ready to run." Ready to run my ass. You need to upgrade the fuel pump, put larger injectors in, install spark plugs with a smaller gap and colder heat range, upgrade the MAF sensor, etc. By the way, you need to remove all of the intake manifold, not just the "top portion" (that's called the plenum), in order to install runners that are designed for supercharged applications. When the valves snap shut, they create pressure waves that propagate through the manifold runners, and if you have the wrong ones, those waves, combined with boost pressure, will make the air so turbulent, some air will actually start flowing the wrong way out of the manifold. And he used the word "literally" wrong. End rant.
@Bryce70
@Bryce70 11 жыл бұрын
AAS was always my favorite place to look for aftermarket parts 3 years ago. Glad to see you're still doing just as good!
@dylanknight4752
@dylanknight4752 10 жыл бұрын
superchargers also need an upgraded cooling system. Even though it's belt driven, the motor still can get really hot with all the added power especially when hard sustained driving is involved. But, at least thats an easier job than turbo conversions!
@Sho3Game
@Sho3Game 11 жыл бұрын
Stumbled upon this video on accident. I love it. I'm glad to finally find a fairly clear, accurate description.
@umar77995
@umar77995 4 жыл бұрын
He totally forgot about turbo lag lol and how superchargers have instant power.
@Reaper1008
@Reaper1008 10 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking to say, that eclipse in the intro, the sunburst orange, is an awesome car. I had one ( the 4 g eclipse was one of my favorite ), was same color and all, it only had on the typhoon intake, loved that car.. but a F-150 ran a light and we hit in the intersection.. I really enjoy your videos..
@Tlp114
@Tlp114 11 жыл бұрын
1st time i have seen anything by Andy Auto Sport... im hooked.
@PowershiftFactory
@PowershiftFactory 8 жыл бұрын
So much misinformation between the two here and in the comments. All of the information here on the Supercharger side is SO wrong... Firstly there are a few different types of super chargers but for simplicity sake the two most common are centrifugal and positive displacement (the TRD one shown is the latter). Centrifugal superchargers are basically a turbo compressor spun by the engine via a belt and a gear drive, instead of exhaust. Off Idle they will make very low boost and achieve maximum boost at the top end so at 1k = 0psi --> 4k rpm =5psi -->7k rpm =8 psi that is what is described in the video and thats correct for that type specifically. Positive displacement superchargers however are a whole different monster, they displace a specific volume of air for each rotation, their capacity is measured in liters, cc, or cubic inches. These will generate FULL boost pressures at all RPMs if the throttle demand is there if you floor it at 1k you will see maximum boost pressure right then and there all the way to red line. back to the turbo part the only turbos that will preform optimally at the top and bottom of the rev range are very expensive OEM variable geometry turbos like those used in the CSX VNT or newer Ford Ecoboost engines. Normal turbochargers are plagued with the fact that a turbo that can build boost at low RPMs while still maintaining that boost at higher RPMs end up choking the exhaust flow reducing horse power. A bigger turbo will create more power on the top of the RPM range but will have turbo lag at the bottom.
@AndysAutoSportTV
@AndysAutoSportTV 10 жыл бұрын
Yes! Please see the video description for contact info. Thanks for watching!
@andilemhlongo9744
@andilemhlongo9744 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks AndysAutoSportTV I got what I was looking for
@Highway94
@Highway94 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Learned a thing or two from you guys keep up the great work!
@jjcvk
@jjcvk 11 жыл бұрын
great video. covered most things in depth without dragging and getting boring!! just found your channel, naturally i've subbed ;)
@sameerjura6535
@sameerjura6535 10 жыл бұрын
I love turbos.
@deanjones1801
@deanjones1801 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely helped with the decision I wanna make for my vehicle 👍
@scarnicom1
@scarnicom1 10 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! I don't know a whole lot about cars in general, but this defiantly helped me out a lot on my decision for my Srt-8 Magnum. Thank you!
@lid3007
@lid3007 7 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Thank you my man.
@jestermcnasty
@jestermcnasty 11 жыл бұрын
I love my supercharger, the loud whine you get is just orgasmic!
@TruenoG7
@TruenoG7 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy that was very helpful!
@treytrey7681
@treytrey7681 5 жыл бұрын
I Love The Supercharger Whine👏🏾
@PoliticalGallivant
@PoliticalGallivant 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Well thought out and executed. Thanks for the information!
@pauljordan756
@pauljordan756 5 жыл бұрын
Great explaination! Subbed!
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro 11 жыл бұрын
As for SC's: A roots superchargers is a positive displacement pump.THEY tend to produce more "area under the curve" then turbos, not the other way around. They do so because, unlike a turbo that varies the amount of air it moves with speed, roots SC's basically move the same amount of air with every revolution throughout the ENTIRE rpm range. They do so because they are mechanically linked to the engine's crankshaft thus always have the same rpm ratio with the engine.
@IcemanSam650
@IcemanSam650 10 жыл бұрын
I have an mr2 turbo and I love it! Cant beat a turbo!
@simongrove2369
@simongrove2369 11 жыл бұрын
Nice and simple explanation. Sadly, exactly what I needed!
@maddgear1312
@maddgear1312 10 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that mini in the background
@mq14680055
@mq14680055 10 жыл бұрын
Great video man!!
@flyvtec04
@flyvtec04 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! Good stuff.
@daveb809
@daveb809 7 жыл бұрын
excellent clear explanation thank you
@429mas
@429mas 10 жыл бұрын
kenne bell mammoth supercharger all the way keeps you at boost almost throughout the entire RPM before u hit redline
@date_vape
@date_vape 11 жыл бұрын
Very clear and informative. good job
@ohno2125
@ohno2125 11 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thanks!
@danimanfly
@danimanfly 10 жыл бұрын
Great Video Thankyou so much!!!!!!!
@Chrislav7
@Chrislav7 10 жыл бұрын
I went with a Supercharger setup for my 01 Mustang GT. It seemed more practical and I also like that it has it's own oil supply. I was also able to install the supercharger myself. It was time consuming, but really its just "bolt on". No real special tools were needed, except a supportive wife. It was also considerably cheaper than the equivalent turbo setup for my car. Thanks for the invaluable information Andys auto sports!
@AnHRTBus
@AnHRTBus 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent information.
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, But... Sometimes specific applications bend the rules a little bit... So the Edelbrock kit for the Toyota (Scion) 86 (Frs) for example makes good torque low down with all the benefits of the simpler install etc
@ericthegamer92
@ericthegamer92 11 жыл бұрын
Thank u for the info really help
@V12carlover
@V12carlover 11 жыл бұрын
Well made video, informative and professional
@zondafive2062
@zondafive2062 5 жыл бұрын
VERY HELPFUL!!
@oldfashionedwrx3574
@oldfashionedwrx3574 11 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative.
@ACEStreetracer4life
@ACEStreetracer4life 11 жыл бұрын
Thankkkk you for this!!! :)
@lmSnarkk
@lmSnarkk 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@CPT115FA
@CPT115FA 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@robvoyles
@robvoyles 4 жыл бұрын
Super Charger hands down, no lag, no heat, instant power and sounds way cooler too.
@patrickt3632
@patrickt3632 11 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!
@Sniper-zz7wr
@Sniper-zz7wr 7 жыл бұрын
thanks you really helped
@VanishingVision7
@VanishingVision7 11 жыл бұрын
Very informative!
@BilalAndLoveAboveAll
@BilalAndLoveAboveAll 7 жыл бұрын
awesome video!
@ipodfreak93gh
@ipodfreak93gh 11 жыл бұрын
good job! very informative.
@princetaqqi3828
@princetaqqi3828 7 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot for the info.
@mohdakif1115
@mohdakif1115 10 жыл бұрын
can a built in turbo save your fuel? for cars such as vw golf 1.4 and peugeot 308? thanks
@houseofmods2104
@houseofmods2104 11 жыл бұрын
went with a Vortech V2 si 22lbs...polished...I recommend it...
@JericTamayo
@JericTamayo 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the details about the super and turbo chargers! I have a question about the parasitic loss from the supercharger. I heard it takes away some torque/hp from the engine? I'm just a beginner, so I have so much to learn.
@Nskawtea1
@Nskawtea1 7 жыл бұрын
Simple and easy info
@AndysAutoSportTV
@AndysAutoSportTV 11 жыл бұрын
We get what you're saying, but based on the turbos that we sell, a lot of people are looking at small turbos as either an upgrade for their existing stock turbos, or as a beginner setup. In any case, thanks for watching and for your comments!
@SUPASLY75
@SUPASLY75 11 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!!!
@danielperkins4635
@danielperkins4635 8 жыл бұрын
Nice guide!
@crimson4867
@crimson4867 7 жыл бұрын
He looks kinda like Walter white from breaking bad
@hawkboy000
@hawkboy000 11 жыл бұрын
Great video
@DavidBoy333
@DavidBoy333 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! You helped me getting a much better understanding of Turbo and Superchanging technology!
@Redblower
@Redblower 10 жыл бұрын
One important comment that i would like to make is that the supercharger uses a lot more fuel and parasytic losses become huge particularly without intercooling. I have two cars with a turbo in one and a supercharger in the other. Small quick to spool turbos like the Garrett 2560 are the way to go these days. also with the water cooled units you don't need to bother with the old cool down after a run timer setup. thanks for the great video.
@damianfzj80
@damianfzj80 8 жыл бұрын
excellent video. I have a toyota land cruiser 80 series with a turbo charger hks working with 5 psi and do not possess intercooler is necessary to place the intercooler? i live in venezuela and the temperature is about 30 degrees Celsius
@leisryan
@leisryan 11 жыл бұрын
well presented!
@jryyyttrry7116
@jryyyttrry7116 7 жыл бұрын
tq andy 😊,...you're great explanation?,...
@loganliam1319
@loganliam1319 5 жыл бұрын
SC! NO oil risk and fuel line return drilling/tapping/leaks. bolt on ez. no boost built up.
@keundrich
@keundrich 11 жыл бұрын
How can you dislike a video like this?!?!?! Your in here for this type of info, or you ain't. Super video btw! Thanks
@B2Fancy
@B2Fancy 8 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend, a supercharger or a turbo for a 2014 Scion FR-S
@sky2k_
@sky2k_ 11 жыл бұрын
great video
@27wtkins
@27wtkins 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kief4diamonds
@kief4diamonds 11 жыл бұрын
depends on several things. simplicity, heat, efficiency, torque down low, linear torque, weekend install, month long install, and to spend 5-10k depending on if you do it right or not. and with all that power, everything else starts breaking. stock trannies, stock suspension, cylinders/ringlands ect.....
@jj-tq4hx
@jj-tq4hx 7 жыл бұрын
Nicely explained
@fat420cracker
@fat420cracker 10 жыл бұрын
I love my Vortech V9! S/C FTW
@youngestson6537
@youngestson6537 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative and interesting video. New subber..
@camaroburnouts
@camaroburnouts 11 жыл бұрын
great video very help full! just one random question what rims are on that Subaru in the back? also what are those rim dimensions? thank you
@Sithlord343
@Sithlord343 11 жыл бұрын
i want a supercharger for My S2000 !!! and thanks for al the info great vid
@serkanister3620
@serkanister3620 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@glentight
@glentight 8 жыл бұрын
can i just add that the limiting factors of a twin screw/roots are a. its capacity and b. pulley size. a 2.3l twin screw/roots will compress 2.3l of air with each full rotation of the screws. pulley size will dictate how many crank revolutions are required to make one full revolution of the screws. the ratio of crank revolutions to screw revolutions is fixed by pulley size, where belt slip is nil. resulting in a fixed boost pressure. however many manufacturers do things slightly differently. clutches/controlled slip..these are non issues at WOT above idle. twin screws genrate less heat than roots due to a smoother airflow pattern. there seem to be many more turbo people these days, also in the comments, but every FI setup will eventually require an intercooler, bigger injectors, upgraded fuel pump, maybe even pistons, rods, crank... modfied cam/s....etc. because..boost is gooood. and you will always want more. i don't care how you like to get the air in....just force it!
@shexdensmore
@shexdensmore 8 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know what to do to just increase the fuel economy. to make the intake air denser.
@Kyledoan83
@Kyledoan83 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid! I finally learn more about turbo charger and supercharger. I have one question though. Since it gives the car engine a boost in power, does it mean that your car consume more fuel?
@alguien3732
@alguien3732 10 жыл бұрын
Simply use a larger supercharger but divide it in longitudinal stages, so you can manage how many stages you want add making use of a set of valves.
@nickfisher3389
@nickfisher3389 10 жыл бұрын
@papakeetee what you do is drop you 1.8 go pick up a ford 302 small block and drop it in your miata it's called the monster miata
@isaacfernandez4325
@isaacfernandez4325 11 жыл бұрын
get both!
@rustedbiscuits874
@rustedbiscuits874 10 жыл бұрын
Can you put a twin turbo in a 97 honda civic
@jayzmatakxxx6299
@jayzmatakxxx6299 5 жыл бұрын
I live in australia. I have a BA xr8 with a Supercharged coyote with a Big Garrett GTX turbo charger aswell. So Both is better then either or lol
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